Cheap Bike vs Super Bike - did it make a difference?

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  • @danjames8669
    @danjames8669 Pƙed 2 lety +124

    I completely understand this. I don’t cycle, but I am a wheelchair user and I am fortunate enough to have a £5000 wheelchair. The difference between this chair and cheaper chairs means custom fit, lighter weight and the chair actually becoming part of me rather than something I sit in. This promotes my independence by making using it way more enjoyable.
    My advice. Time for an upgrade Mary you won’t regret it. I suspect it will motivate you even more to cycle and as a result will justify the cost.

    • @knarf_
      @knarf_ Pƙed 2 lety +5

      👍 Dan, I like your comment. But, you NEED your wheelchair. We use bike for fun only. And then, when you get a bike at 4000+ euros, why not purchase an 8000+ euros, much better than the previous one, of course 😉
      All the best
      knarf from France

    • @ThisIsMego
      @ThisIsMego Pƙed 2 lety +4

      @@knarf_ TBF, at a certain point you get diminishing returns on bikes. I ride mountain bikes and my sweet spot is somewhere around 3-4k€. That gives me enough breathing room for a well equipped bike without completely breaking the bank on marginal improvements.

    • @stihldavebergen3469
      @stihldavebergen3469 Pƙed 2 lety

      We purchased mom a high-end wheelchair, iy simply doesn't compare to the cheap ones.

    • @agumonkey
      @agumonkey Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I wonder how much it's possible to reduce the cost of high grade wheelchairs

    • @nl_2652
      @nl_2652 Pƙed 2 lety

      I wholeheartedly agree!

  • @dcltdw
    @dcltdw Pƙed 2 lety +36

    Would love to see a followup video of, now that you're back on your old bike, how it feels in comparison - basically, trying to factor out recent training as best as one can.

  • @TheAntibozo
    @TheAntibozo Pƙed 2 lety +91

    One of the main reasons i have never upgraded to a carbon frame, apart from cost, is that i ride primarily to try to stay fit. A lighter, faster bike just means i'd travel farther to get the same workout. The stats would look prettier-more elevation gain, more distance-but the main metric i care about is energy, and X watts per hour add up to the same energy regardless of the weight of the bike. If i were racing-if i needed to go faster than others-then it would make sense. Since i am not, it is actually safer to use a heavier bike, which requires lower speed for the same power.

    • @MrMichaelfalk
      @MrMichaelfalk Pƙed 2 lety +12

      Canyon endurance 7 alu - 9,2 kg (8,7 with rim brakes) - carbon version 8.6 kg - so only 600 gram lighter.. Does not make any difference.. I also prefer alu - i would not trust a carbon frame after a crash - alu - no prob.

    • @TheAntibozo
      @TheAntibozo Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@MrMichaelfalk Another option for people with disposable income is titanium. Light and strong, none of the crush damage concerns that carbon has.

    • @TrueFilter
      @TrueFilter Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Exactly. Same for clipless pedals and a million other things.

    • @Horstelin
      @Horstelin Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@TrueFilter clipless pedals are an absolute game changer for going for longer rides. You waste so much energy resting your foot on the pedal on the upstroke so it doesn't slip off. I agree on the weight thing (unless in alpine terrain), but once you went clipless pedals you never go back...

    • @Horstelin
      @Horstelin Pƙed 2 lety +13

      It can be pretty motivating to go further, to go faster. Yes the training effect depends soley on how much energy you spent, but with a nice bike might be more likely to actually go out and ride more often.

  • @jodyburton0351
    @jodyburton0351 Pƙed 2 lety +12

    I'm just getting back into cycling myself. I was an aficionado 20 years ago and life changes altered my priorities. Even then, the bike I had and still have is ancient tech: CroMoly frame and 6-speed stem shifters. Bike envy was certainly there, but the money had to pay bills first. That said, there is a measure of pride in keeping pace with others on much more expensive gear, knowing that the engine means more to performance than the chassis. Doesn't mean I don't still want a new bike, though.

  • @ianbrade7754
    @ianbrade7754 Pƙed rokem +1

    Mary, I used to cycle a lot. In 1986 I had a custom built steel frame. In 2000, that bike was upgraded to contemporary components (9 speed era). In 2004, I bought an alu-carbon frame from a top Italian manufacturer, which was equipped with a top of the range, 11 speed group and matching wheels.
    I still have and enjoy riding my steel frame which was less than 0.5kg different in weight. It fits like a glove and was the one I chose to keep.
    My point is that, yes there's always the latest and greatest new machine, and yes they do depreciate but that is mostly due to consumerism. Once you have a quality bike that you really like, just hang on to it, keep it well maintained and it will reward you for a very long time.

  • @grahambowes756
    @grahambowes756 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Great to hear the comparison. When I got back into cycling, still had my late 80s lightweight steel. 11kg was fairly light back then. Last year I bought an Orbea Orca Di2 which blew me away. I put Zipp 303s wheels on it, that made it even better. My first carbon bike, so I totally get how you felt. Here’s to your new bike day when it comes. And safe travels.

  • @jimhansen5395
    @jimhansen5395 Pƙed rokem

    I'm so glad I found this channel. I love your main channel and have been subbed there for a while. Now I've found that we share two loves (cycling and music). SO awesome!. And re: the new bike. TREAT YOURSELF TO SOMETHING SPECIAL ! YOU DESERVE IT!

  • @gnmatsu
    @gnmatsu Pƙed rokem +1

    This is excellent. I've been cycling all my life. I'm in my late 50's and still riding regularly. Cycling just feels great and puts a smile in and on me. We have a saying among us "On a mountain bike you can be 9 years old forever".
    I pretty much only mountain bike these days. When ever friends would ask me what kind of bike to buy and "I don't want to spend too much" is said, I tell them you need to spend enough money so that riding is fun. If you cheap out and that bike is no fun to ride and sits in the corner and collects dust, it's wasted money. Look forward to more of your cycling joys.

  • @VeloVagabond
    @VeloVagabond Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Don't know if there's something similar in Europe, but in the US there's a place called the Pro's Closet that sells high-end used bikes. They buy bikes from the people that want to always have the newest and best. It allows someone who doesn't care about that, to get a great bike that's a year or two old and avoid the new bike depreciation hit.

  • @jackryan152
    @jackryan152 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Hi! Followed you over here from your music videos! Love that you cycle too. We are getting ready to start our tour season this weekend with a small training ride tomorrow. We live in very hilly country so distance isnt really a big deal (20-30 miles usually) but we have do lots of climbing! I have completed the Tour de Tucson (105 miles) but now I limit myself to metric centurys.

  • @DrRicharddym
    @DrRicharddym Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I had to double take.. the same Mary Spendor covering both my fav activities.. music/guitar and cycling.. one stop shop.. đŸ€“

  • @owensnicholas
    @owensnicholas Pƙed 2 lety +4

    A new bike pays off in ways you can’t put a price on. Like you said, you’ve had a hard time being consistent. A new bike makes you want to go out and ride it. :) If you can, you should do it.
    I don’t think enough videos compare a trusty old workhorse to a new bike. Thanks for sharing. :)

  • @aliensporebomb
    @aliensporebomb Pƙed 2 lety +1

    As a musician and cyclist I did something similar to this last year - my 2003 circa Giant TCR road bike is great but my 2021 Carbon Orbea lets me rider faster, longer with more comfort and I get more out of my time spent on the ride. Strava statistics definitely took an uptick. You said that noticed you were able to do your usual ride 15 minutes quicker - that's really great as that time can be aimed at other things you enjoy or just regular chores or the like. I find my cycling informs my music and my music informs my cycling in a way. Anyway, sounds like it was a good time and that Colnago looks gorgeous!

  • @markclements1509
    @markclements1509 Pƙed 2 lety

    Beautiful bike, definitely worth upgrading too. Chris & Lee @ Eat, Sleep, Cycle were wonderful helpful people when I bought my Ridley Helium from them a couple of years ago.

  • @grenou
    @grenou Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Mary, your reaction to the difference in bikes was virtually identical to my own. I owned a Schwinn AL-frame Road bike years ago, had the opportunity to test ride a Cervélo S2 (even though it wasn't quite the perfect size, for me). The difference was so astonishing that I immediately set to task of upgrading my own bike. The S2 felt like I was riding a cloud, that could turn into a fighter jet should I feel like putting the power down.
    About a year later, I picked up a Cannondale Six6, and while not a Cervélo S2, I have been riding happily ever since..!

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Pƙed rokem

      Enjoying some bb creek? :D

    • @grenou
      @grenou Pƙed rokem

      @@rkan2 No creaks in my bb, bb...! 😁

  • @Juan0003
    @Juan0003 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Well, you kinda went for one of the holy grails of bicycles. And I envy you! But I’m happy with my 2014 Trek Domane. All carbon bike, comfortable as hell. And even if that feeling of amazement I had first time I rode it has dissipated a bit, I still enjoy it greatly.
    Thank you for sharing this!

  • @madrabbit64
    @madrabbit64 Pƙed rokem +1

    I went to a full carbon Felt F2 with Dura Ace and it was like the doors slammed open wide and my riding just improved vastly. Unbelievably fast, smooth and responsive, everything you could ever want in a fine tuned machine. They’re amazing
.but they can be evil, you have no idea what you’ve just put your body through until it’s time to get off of it
then you’ll know!

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 Pƙed 2 lety

    This is inspiring me to overhaul my road bike and get back on it after a several year hiatus. I run these days but it's just not the same. I built it out myself on a Ti frame, nearly 20 years ago back when people were still buying and building Ti bikes and carbon hadn't taken over the mid to high end. It's not high end but still pretty decent, a mid-range Campy-Shimano hybrid with mix of Centaur, Ultegra and Dura-Ace.
    Rides like a dream, and I'm glad it's Ti and not carbon as it's basically indestructible and still rides like the day I built it, with that springy Ti feel. If anyone wonders if a quality bike is worth the cost, it is. You don't have to go crazy, but definitely spend the money if you're serious and want to keep riding. You won't just stay at it, but you'll enjoy those rides and be thankful you spent a bit more.
    One doesn't have to be a Chris Froome or Tadej Pogačar to deserve and benefit from a nice bike.

  • @daveebert7747
    @daveebert7747 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hey Mary so glad I found your new channel, I follow your other guitar/music channel. I love the comparison you made about an expensive guitar making you want to play more. Life should be about “more play”. I would love to see you go back to James and get yourself a new bike that makes you want to ride/play more. Cheers from Canada 🇹🇩

  • @ejorbe
    @ejorbe Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great video!! I have also been wondering about getting a new bicycle, but can’t bring myself to buy one. I still ride my 1994 diamondback sorrento sport and still enjoy riding it.

  • @MeteCanKarahasan
    @MeteCanKarahasan Pƙed 2 lety

    I love your channel ma'am! You are sharing all the nitty gritty details I'm looking for.

  • @philipschrantz8402
    @philipschrantz8402 Pƙed rokem

    A few years ago I was able to build my dream bike and I fall in love with it again every time
    I get on it. The costs are a real concern, but life is short and your cycling time is precious. Ride the very best bike you can and you’ll never regret it.

  • @mikegray-ehnert3238
    @mikegray-ehnert3238 Pƙed 2 lety

    In my travels of living in different places in Wisconsin, one of the places I've lived is in Waterloo, WI, which is the home of Trek Bikes. They made some of the former US Olympic bikes and in the early 2000's were experienced makers of carbon fiber bikes and carbon fiber blended bikes. Was able to tour their facilities, a united impressed. Get you a Jaq bike!

  • @johnr8820
    @johnr8820 Pƙed 2 lety

    I’m so glad I found Mary’s cycling channel! I love music and cycling too 😊

  • @larisonjohnson
    @larisonjohnson Pƙed 2 lety

    Compliance and vibration dampening can be beautiful. Several years ago I upgraded from a home grown gravel bike (hard tail with drop bars) to a proper road bike. I picked up a Felt Z5 in mint condition for $500 USD. Upgraded the wheels to Easton SLX and shifting to 11 speed DI2, that added another $750. All through ebay. At this point, I’m probably $1500 in and absolutely love the result. If you are willing to act as your own wrench, upgrades can be simple and affordable. And with all the issues surrounding todays road bikes, I’m more than happy with my sub 7 kg 2015 whip. Though always on the look out for the next upgrade. Would love to hear what you decide to do, and if you would every consider incremental upgrades. Wheels, seat post, stem, handlebars, tape, and fork can have a big impact on ride quality and weight.

  • @alirezaazimipour3637
    @alirezaazimipour3637 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Just a gentle reminder that albeit the bike says, “COLNAGO” it’s really not a real Italian Colnago. That mode is made in Taiwan! Just like Pinarello and De Rosa. The only Italian Colnago is the V3 and C64. Enjoy

  • @davesadrikcole6217
    @davesadrikcole6217 Pƙed rokem

    If I could triple-like this video, I would. You pointed out several positive points including; bike fit, and a bike that makes you WANT to keep riding (and you admitted your bike love has come and gone at times.)

  • @michaellangfitt2077
    @michaellangfitt2077 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Love this side of you. Clearly you have friends that are as silly as you.

  • @rustymac83
    @rustymac83 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Love to see to stoke in someone's eyes from riding a new bike. I would say your riding ability far surpasses that of your old bike. You could take a look at other slightly more affordable brands such as Orbea or Canyon, you don't need to go for a Colnago, Willier or Bianchi . Wheels can make a fantastic difference but you can look at the likes of Parcours wheels or Hunt wheels for a better value carbon option and potential future upgrade. If price is still a concern then you could potentially look to speak with the guys you hired the Colnago from and see if they would do you a deal on the lightly used model (this may get a firm no atm due to global bike shortages but it won't hurt to ask)

  • @official_Grant
    @official_Grant Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Obviously going from a 12 year old bike to something top spec is going to be a huge leap. But if you are worried about depreciation, there will be loads of 2nd hand options that will be a tidy upgrade without costing the earth or falling in value quite so much as something out of the box.
    FWIW... I think your Orbea looks absolutely great for a 12 year old bike and if you aren't competing, it is just a fitness tool.
    The opportunity cost for a young adult of spending ÂŁ4,000 on a bike versus having that money for travel, investing, buying a house etc. is huge, imo.
    That's my philosophy at least as a 30-something with a 2nd hand entry level Bianchi C2C.

  • @stihldavebergen3469
    @stihldavebergen3469 Pƙed 2 lety

    I bought a new old stock 2019 Domane SLR9 project one, it's the nicest bike I will own for a long time but I've hit some serious speeds and the comfort is way beyond what I thought I'd ever ride.

  • @mrwhiteshorts
    @mrwhiteshorts Pƙed 2 lety +1

    9:07 No, you could get a higher quality alu bike, and with well-picked components, you can get 90% of the feel, for ÂŁ2500. Youve got the bike fit, which is by far the best investment you can make. Btw i love analogue bikes! I ride a 15kg one with mudguards, and about to build a 6.2kg one... That will give me the same feeling as youve described perfectly here :)

  • @mewgiah8057
    @mewgiah8057 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    People get too hung up on money and ironically almost always make overall bad investments in small increments.
    $4k might seem like a lot, but it really isn’t when you are investing in your own health. And if you actually are cycling daily or multiple times a week - then that 4 grand will pay itself off quickly.
    Compare that to all the cheap things we buy that don’t actually help us in the long run. That adds up. So its okay to buy expensive things sometimes if its a smart investment.

  • @Horstelin
    @Horstelin Pƙed 2 lety

    First of all: It made my day to see somebody I kind of look up to (I admire your creativity on the guitar) enjoy one of my favorite hobbys, road cycling! Having a little bit of a crush not gonna lie!
    Secondly: Treat yourself! If I regret anything, it's not getting my expensive road bike earlier. It can motivate you to go out more. You don't need to be on tour de france levels to ride a nice bike. The bike can help you to motivate being consistent, doesn't need to be the other way round (thinking you have to be consistent to "deserve" a nice bike). Also just because the bike companies come out with new components quite regularly, the old ones are still 100% perfectly ride able. Ever since moving away from down tube shifters, anything on road bikes has been more of an evolution than revolution. Shimano 11 speed mechanical bikes are much more affordable and work flawlessly.

  • @mauricetremblay1324
    @mauricetremblay1324 Pƙed rokem

    I bought a custom fit bike 10 years ago for a very reasonable price. Recently I have tried every repositioning possible and could not get comfy. I switched out for a Specialized Roubaix Expert. WOW!!!! I can ride for hours no problem. I should have switched 2 years ago when bike prices were not stupid high. Enjoy.

  • @rickrides8352
    @rickrides8352 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    It's the same for me; I have a 2002 Giant OCR and I'm not sure if I should buy a newer one or just keep riding the OCR. It's a pretty much 'hardcore' bike and I would like to have more comfort. But those prices for new bikes .... ouch.

  • @dradbelson2736
    @dradbelson2736 Pƙed 2 lety

    I am so happy to see somebody else enjoy the same combination as I do: I love to play the guitar but at the same time I am extremely passionate about riding bikes and sports in general.

  • @flyriviera
    @flyriviera Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Hi! I would like to share my experience with you. I had a similar feeling when I changed from my 14 kg 26" bike to a lighter 29".... the first days were like... OMG. and checking top speed and the transmission... I felt like if I needed more!!! But body tends to get used to, and that feeling dissapears faster than you think. I think you have a modern bike... (my road bike is from 1993... that's a HUGE difference!), but if you begin to replace components, you will consider to change for a newer one. Giant has some nice models, Cannondale... around 1500-1700€ (yes , in alluminum). Decathlon had a full carbon frame with a complete 105 groupset for 1599€ this year...

    • @flyriviera
      @flyriviera Pƙed 2 lety

      and... about cheap and expensive... same path... same times... I couldn't find any difference. I recently changed the road bike... and times are the same... except that... I'd say I climb better.

  • @juliendebustos6357
    @juliendebustos6357 Pƙed 2 lety

    happy to discover this channel of sport and bike by Mary spender.

  • @markcarrington8565
    @markcarrington8565 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Welcome to the esoteric world, Mary. In any given field there’s a level that, once experienced, it’s hard to imagine being satisfied with less. For me it was in hi-fi, others may find it in cameras or cars. The best thing about experiencing the sublime, is it gives you a reference point from which you can measure all the others. If you can justify £4k plus on a bike, well, you have your answer. However, if not, you can try lesser machines and choose the one that compares most closely with characteristics of your dream machine, for the price you’re prepared to spend.
    In my chosen passion, I am fortunate to be able to venture into the used market and try many alternatives. If it doesn’t work out, I can move the item on for the same price I paid for it. By the sound of it, if bikes depreciate so badly, this might be an option for you too. Either way, enjoy the search and happy test riding.

  • @kypdur4746
    @kypdur4746 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    The groupset, wheels and tyres can make a massive difference to an older frame. I was always told, buy a decent frame and the best you can afford in terms of components. Upgrade them as and when you can afford it. Really makes a difference. One of my bikes is a 2002 ribble, but I swap out components, when I can and it's just got better and better with age, unlike the rider.

  • @Katastra_
    @Katastra_ Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I've always just stumbled across your guitar videos on youtube over the years, had no idea you cycled as well. I mostly only ride road when it's too wet to MTB these days, but it's still interesting hearing about roadie stuff. I wonder if the MTB bug would bite you as well if you gave it a go? lol

  • @williamcovey9703
    @williamcovey9703 Pƙed 2 lety

    A good video. I would suggest watching another 'Proof of Sweat' vid titled 'I've Been Suffering For 10 Years'. No matter what your bike cost, being fitted by a very knowledgeable person who understands the dynamics of bike fit is VERY important!

  • @seanicky
    @seanicky Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great video. I would only add that your older Orbea is worth much more than sixty Euros. At least 200 euros easy.

  • @LockeLeviathan
    @LockeLeviathan Pƙed 2 lety

    Lol, watching the first two minutes of this video thinking, "Wow, she sounds really familiar. Just like Mary Spender. Same exact accent. Wow, she looks just like her too. I wonder if they are related." Love the music, love the bike. Worlds are overlapping.

  • @paulj302
    @paulj302 Pƙed 2 lety

    I was thinking 4000 was a little on the low side with etap and good carbon wheels. I have some hunt wheels (4454, steel spokes) coming for my Domane very excited, it is very comfortable but hoping to gain some speed by loosing nearly a kilo and getting more aero. I love riding and it is helping my weight, blood pressure and blood sugar so it's worth it. It is also something that can be upgraded over time.

  • @7had
    @7had Pƙed 2 lety +8

    You have also a fair amount of 'luxury' in that test bike, you could spend a few weeks searching reviews and find a bike which gives 80-90% of the quality of that colnago, for half the price.

    • @alirezaazimipour3637
      @alirezaazimipour3637 Pƙed 2 lety

      It’s not even a true Colnago! That model is mass produced in Taiwan đŸ‡čđŸ‡Œ

  • @bkbinj6320
    @bkbinj6320 Pƙed 2 lety

    Looks like you really enjoyed riding that Colnago. You are right about a nice bike that fits making you want to ride more like a nice guitar that feels good makes you want play more. Next time you come to Nashville you should ride with our club.

  • @rocketritch
    @rocketritch Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video Marry. There is no real comparison between entry level and upper level bikes. Upper level bikes make such a difference. Keep your old bike for đŸŒ§ïž days.

  • @tyupi5530
    @tyupi5530 Pƙed 2 lety

    I went cycling yesterday, on an uphill I managed to overtake two cyclists (with Italian premium bikes). They were at least 15 years younger than me ...
    My cycle is 1000 euros (RC 520 gravel) , theirs is 7000 euro...
    They have money, but they don't have the strength and the technical knowledge! 😁
    Greetings from Hungary! đŸšŽđŸ»â€â™‚ïž 🇭đŸ‡ș

  • @gnmatsu
    @gnmatsu Pƙed rokem

    By the way. A bike's ride qualities can be night and day with an upgrade in wheels. That is often the best upgrade to any bike.

  • @RogerinFinland
    @RogerinFinland Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Mary Spender + Girona = liked and subscribed!!!

  • @owenjohnson5030
    @owenjohnson5030 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    My last bike was an 11 speed Di2 Ultegra. My new bike is a 12 speed Di2 Ultegra. I paid $3500 for each bike by buying them from Bikes Direct. They would have cost probably over $5000 if I bought a big name brand.

  • @ST-ry7lr
    @ST-ry7lr Pƙed rokem

    I've been riding for 50 years now. My current bike cost a couple thousand, but even when I was a kid, I don't think I've ever had a bike that only cost as little as ÂŁ60.

  • @froggy0162
    @froggy0162 Pƙed 2 lety

    Wrong side brakes are “fun”
 As an Australian, front brake is on the right like the UK. A rented bike in Mallorca was a bit sketchy coming downSa Callobra!!!

  • @Irhamwashere
    @Irhamwashere Pƙed 2 lety

    I enjoy this kind of video.. thank you

  • @rossvincent77
    @rossvincent77 Pƙed 2 lety

    Hi Mary, I’d definitely recommend a carbon bike, with the weight saving and stiffer frame you’ll see a big performance increase in upgrading. If you can afford electronic then go for it but it’s not necessary. You don’t need to spend loads on a Colnago. I have a Colnago C64 with di2 and Reynolds carbon wheels. Cost me a fortune and parts are very expensive - don’t get me wrong it looks amazing and goes like a rocket. My training/commuter bike is a Cannondale SuperSix which is full carbon with mechanical ultegra and carbon wheels. It cost me less than half the C64 and rides very well. There are many cheaper but still good brands around.

  • @ianfurqueron5850
    @ianfurqueron5850 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    As someone who is probably more into cycling than I am guitars, there is definitely a correlation to high end bikes and high end guitars - at least at the amateur/hobby level. While I have a number of high end guitars, I tend to think a lot of about buying each one. My bikes, on the other hand - there I will spend money with less thought.
    Oh... I have wireless shifting on two of my mtn bikes. It's definitely very nice. Can cable shifting work as well? In general, yes - one of my mtn bikes has pro-spec shifting and it's maybe a notch below the wireless. That said, part of me is considering wireless shifting on my next road bike.

  • @dsonyay
    @dsonyay Pƙed rokem +1

    All of these high end pricey bikes depreciate a LOT. Buy a used one that’s been owned three or four years for a fraction of the cost. Better yet, buy better components for your Orbea. The Orb is excellent.. but going to Shimano Dura Ace components, Carbon fiber wheels, and other components will drop quite a bit of weight off the Orbea.

  • @JohnLumapaskeith
    @JohnLumapaskeith Pƙed 2 lety

    Mary! My word I thought you only played guitars!!! Now that's 2 things we have in common! Well done! :D You know, Just like guitars, I don't think you have to be up to date with the current technology out there. As long as you're having fun with what you have, and it's still working, then there's no real point to purchase a new one. There's a famous saying by a great and legendary tennis player Arthur Ashe who is also the first African-american who won Wimbledon. He said; "Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can" and I live by those words until today. I'm not big on brand names, I use Epiphones and Squires and my bike is a Triban rc 100. I know, nobody asked lol but, I guess what I'm really trying to do is encourage you and the other people reading my comment, to keep riding your bike, regardless of what you have. Have a blessed day Mary :)

  • @gRleF
    @gRleF Pƙed 2 lety

    6:11 that view alone makes me wanna go out ride my bike immediately, but i got to go to work in 1,5 hours 😱

  • @david57strat
    @david57strat Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Picturesque country. What an amazing bicycle, too! Top of the line. You should invest in one of your very own, if you are able. You totally deserve it! Enjoy :-).

  • @phililpb
    @phililpb Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    I remember (many years ago) sitting on a 10 speed steel frame road bike with down tube shifters and thinking it was the best thing in the world. It is all relative.

  • @wakweikafelix
    @wakweikafelix Pƙed 2 lety

    Awesome content! Waiting for that Francis Cade collabo on this channel.

  • @tadbonkers6236
    @tadbonkers6236 Pƙed 29 dny

    *low whistle* blimey indeed. Those are some expensive rims. I see super luxe bikes like that in the area I live, because it is a well-moneyed area. It's fun to occasionally talk to the riders about their equipment. I am always agog at the technological advancements. Electronic shifters, Witchcraft!

  • @X41N3
    @X41N3 Pƙed 2 lety

    Bought my first mtb for 110, it was so enjoyable when I had found a mtb hill that i put like 250-300km on it within 2 weeks and sold it for 120 because I'm too tall. Yesterday I bought another mtb for 50 which is bigger, but now it doesn't have any suspension and I almost slammed into a tree because I hadn't adjusted the brakes yet. Hopefully this one will last a few weeks more so I can save for a hardtail or whatever they call them.

  • @irishmanwrx7715
    @irishmanwrx7715 Pƙed rokem

    I have been riding a $600 bike for 4 years. I just bought a $3k bike last week. My only regret is not doing this 3 years sooner! omg what a difference So happy I finely upgraded.

  • @rockyetsx70
    @rockyetsx70 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    There's nothing more disruptive than going over the cusp in experience of high end cycling, there is no going back. As you say, a bike drops about 30% of value when it rolls out of the store, so you can likely find a 3 year old high end carbon road bike with really nice grupo for about half of new cost, being sold by someone who needs the latest and greatest and has likely taken good care of the bike.

    • @joerenner8334
      @joerenner8334 Pƙed 2 lety

      But buying a used carbon bike is rough. Impossible to tell if the frame is sound.

  • @vipassana72
    @vipassana72 Pƙed rokem

    I began cycling here on east coast of Scotland recently. Probably something men closing on fifty do. Round the beginning of October. since starting I have sent back two mountain bikes and finally arrived at a road bike. Now that I have what i believe to be the correct bike it has did nothing but rain. it has been raining here since early October pretty much every night and day. not a problem. I attach mudguards. the rear mudguard I presently have persists in sliding off to one side as I am riding. I cannot work out why this is. All I do know is that when I eventually get back to where I began riding from my back and bottoms are completely soaked.
    Still great to feel part of a global activity, soggy bottomed or not.
    Garmin do need to add accumulated totals to their software readings. You presently have to calculate the totals of the rides you have taken throughout the days yourself. The software is excellent, very detailed, but that slight additional adjustment would make it far easier for a cyclist to see how much milage they have covered in total without having to whip out a calculator.

  • @GR_BackingTracks
    @GR_BackingTracks Pƙed 2 lety

    Worth it!
    Everyone deserves biking happiness...

  • @viffer94
    @viffer94 Pƙed 2 lety

    Do it! Buy the Colnago! $4k euros really isn’t that much to spend on a modern road bike, you can easily spend 2, 3, 4 times as much and I suspect the final purchase price of that bike would be substantially more. Still think of the pleasure and enjoyment you get from playing a quality guitar, the feeling of lifting your craft to another level using better equipment. Same goes for the bicycle, you’ll ride faster, feel better and want to get out on the road more. That sounds like more than enough reason to make the investment.

  • @klewis2048
    @klewis2048 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Really pleased you got on with this bike, it makes such a difference. I love eTap, I now have it on two bikes (my road bike, and my triathlon bike). Yes, those wheels from Black Inc are expensive, but there are lots of brands selling carbon wheels for a lot less. The difference in comfort you're experiencing between your alloy bike and the Colnago is primarily down to the carbon frame.

  • @ridewithted2003
    @ridewithted2003 Pƙed rokem

    My favorite wheels where a pair of Spinergy Spox wheels. So freaking light and they spun forever.

  • @CkrisTheNewOne
    @CkrisTheNewOne Pƙed 2 lety

    Great Videos and good Information! :)
    In Austria we would say: mach weita so 😃

  • @bradsimpson7369
    @bradsimpson7369 Pƙed 2 lety

    I just upgraded to a better bike as well and look forward to a summer of biking and picking guitar ... doesn't get much better! All the best to you on your bike adventures Mary!

  • @claumeister1
    @claumeister1 Pƙed 2 lety

    I advise scanning your country’s online mktplaces for used sports equipment. Know your size requirements, then pounce when you find that uber-expensive carbon bike that’s 1-2 years old, you can save thousands.

  • @Jack.Waters
    @Jack.Waters Pƙed 2 lety

    Perfectly understand. 45 years ago I had a Mondia. Like everything. Once you have the skills to know the difference. High quality matters.

  • @woolfel
    @woolfel Pƙed 2 lety

    for me, the biggest difference between aluminum or carbon bike is comfort. I ride every day and the "investment" was worth it for me. Where I notice it the most is hands, shoulders and lower back. Modern carbon frames are better at absorbing road vibration and reduces fatigue. I've done several double metric on my carbon bikes and the comfort makes a huge difference. On my old specialized AL bike, 30 miles and my hands would start to get numb.

  • @kodek2000
    @kodek2000 Pƙed rokem

    Well you could go for a nice in between. I recently bought a full Shimano 105/discs on a carbon frame for about 2000 euro.

  • @DerFilmgucker
    @DerFilmgucker Pƙed rokem

    If you want to keep the Orbea, just get Zonda wheels (350 Euro). Also take the drive train apart, clean it all and change the chain. Great video.

  • @giotek5746
    @giotek5746 Pƙed 2 lety

    Mary Spender????? My best guitarist!!!

  • @emmaatkinson4334
    @emmaatkinson4334 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    The advantage of the cheaper bike is that you can use it lock it up, do something, unlock it and go home. The expensive bike needs locks lots of very heavy ones. I think the weight of the padlocks and chains should be added when comparing bikes. Imagine the worry at the back of your mind that the locks and chains aren't enough while you take Sunday Lunch in a country pub.

    • @mike_lowndes
      @mike_lowndes Pƙed 2 lety +7

      The kind of rides you do on that bike don’t involve Sunday lunch in a pub 😀 they may involve a quick coffee and cake, never more than 3 meters away from it.

    • @Exgrmbl
      @Exgrmbl Pƙed 2 lety

      this "cheap" bike is still considerably above what people actually mean when they talk about "cheap bikes". This Orbea is not a 4000€ Colnago, but it will get stolen just the same.

  • @rlshultz5841
    @rlshultz5841 Pƙed 2 lety

    Nice vid. Any road there would make me tense. I’ve been roads on FulGaz in all areas and there is no way. I need my 8 foot bike lane.
    Ps. Maybe something in between? Lots of good options. Also I know black is cool but low on the safety side. Just sayin.

  • @Dance_With_Roxy
    @Dance_With_Roxy Pƙed 2 lety

    May I ask what glasses you’re wearing while riding? They look to have great wind coverage which I need for my sensitive eyes. Thanks in advance!

  • @wadesummers4102
    @wadesummers4102 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    If you stick with your old bike, up-grade the wheels, that will make the most difference. E-shifting is nice but well maintained "analog" stuff does the same job. And discs brakes really aren't needed for road cycling imo. Rim brake wheels will be harder and harder to find these days but the used market would be worth looking into, or the direct from China sellers . I've had to keep with my old rig going (still carbon with carbon wheels,) spending bike money on my son's bikes. And now returning to music, I've spent money on guitars!!

  • @aroundandround
    @aroundandround Pƙed rokem

    Simple rule: If riding alone, it doesn’t matter; if riding with others including friends, best to get similar to what everyone else has.

  • @sstu0286
    @sstu0286 Pƙed 2 lety

    Nice one as weirdly had a bike fit James fit and was in Giróna for 5 weeks just recently and how fab are eat sleep cycles and velodrome, service course etc
I walked into eat sleep Giróna on two occasions and sent straight downstairs to the mechanics when I had an issue and even for a quick tweak not even charged
amazing. Always worth doing the service course and eat sleep social rides
.you’d never get that in the uk with a “15mm check up will be booked in 6 weeks wait mate”
these bike shops in Giróna never turn a fellow cyclist away
    Regards the bike it’s getting a bit out of hand price wise but as a Colnago c64 owner the joy a top bicycle that fits, feels like a feather and makes you feel your ready for then next tour is priceless
I’ve been riding 30+ years and it’s still like riding a bmx with a peg and a bit of cereal box stupid grin on your face at 7 years old
don’t underestimate the joy and gratitude of cycling up els angels, rocacorba etc is locked away is a special place for ever 

    If you’ve followed cycling a long time like I have a ten speed top carbon rim brake bike for £500 used will give you 99% of that v3 experience
Scott addict, treck 5500 of years gone by are pro calibre bikes
just depends on if you want the latest and greatest or the best the greatest used to use not that long ago

    Not so different to a Yamaha FG180 đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @EstelonAgarwaen
    @EstelonAgarwaen Pƙed 2 lety

    all it took me to hold off on a new bike was a new cassette so i cant complain about climbs anymore xD

  • @cowieson
    @cowieson Pƙed 2 lety

    Awesome Mary! I got out on the bike yesterday myself for the first time in a few months, here’s to re-establishing good habits!
    I’d also love to visit Girona. Seems like such a cycling haven!

  • @deployeddan
    @deployeddan Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I could listen to you talk about bikes all day long! Definitely would love to see more bike content from you! Maybe a daily vlog? 😁

  • @Flyingtwiglet
    @Flyingtwiglet Pƙed 2 lety

    Def upgrade your bike. Having new kit really kicks on your enthusiasm. Keep the Orbea as a winter bike. Carbon, Titanium or steel are Much more comfortable than an old aluminium bike. I have a Cervelo RS carbon bike, it’s 10 years old but still good and only 7kg. It’s a 2x10 which dates it and makes it hard to upgrade. I also have a Fairlight Secan steel gravel bike with carbon 650b wheels. That’s a game changer. It’s almost as fast on the road as a road bike and loves bridleways and mild MTB routes. If you want more speed you can swap the wheels for narrower and larger 700c. Two bikes for the price of one. Good luck on your hunt. exciting 😃

  • @Chalisque
    @Chalisque Pƙed rokem

    I wish I could find a working Orbea road bike for ÂŁ60. Echoing some other comments, though, part of the reason I cycle is for fitness, part of it is to get around, so I'd do largely the same distance cycling if I had a fancy road bike compared to my ÂŁ350 Halfords hybrid, but for that distance I'd get less exercise. I do have a hand-me-down Specialized touring bike that I hardly use partly for this reason, and partly that I don't want to lock it up around town, and for manoeuvring around obstacles I prefer straight bars. Though sure, if I won the lottery one day, a ÂŁ5000 bike or three would certainly be on my shopping list. Perhaps it's better for my fitness that I don't.

  • @TheLazyGarden3r
    @TheLazyGarden3r Pƙed 2 lety

    I think the sweetspot for price to performance is somewhere in the middle.

  • @evertonyoung4031
    @evertonyoung4031 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video. now the trick is to find a bike say colnago c59!!!! With good quality handmade wheels. You could achieve the same ride quality. Believe it or not this is the fun bit, looking for something that will do the job.

  • @RafaelAcurcio
    @RafaelAcurcio Pƙed 2 lety +1

    My old bike gears are "very analog" hahahahaha

  • @harrydelaney6623
    @harrydelaney6623 Pƙed 2 lety

    Subscribed đŸ‘ŒđŸ» savage content
just in the process of shopping for a new bike 🚮 been riding old carbon boardman nd think it’s time for an Upgrade

  • @sugincukk11k
    @sugincukk11k Pƙed rokem

    where did you get a bike for 60 quids?

  • @lizzypicardi
    @lizzypicardi Pƙed 2 lety

    Thanks for the video. Liked and Subbed.
    A better bike can be so much more enjoyable. I am all for if you can afford it buy nice đŸ’Ș

  • @montanajones8393
    @montanajones8393 Pƙed 2 lety

    You have great taste in friends first of all. Like phones, every year bikes get better & better. But you take a 10 yr old phone & it still works albeit not as fast or as many features. It all depends on what you want out of it. If I were just riding by myself, any old bike would do. But if you ride with others who have the latest & greatest then it makes it that much harder for you to keep up literally & metaphorically. It all depends on what you want out of it. If you want to be the best that you can be & be on a level playing ground with others, than by all means you should risk it for a biscuit.

  • @aloha_from_bradley
    @aloha_from_bradley Pƙed 2 lety

    You deserve more followers.