Good that you mentioned about sidetone. This is missed by a large no of reviewers. Whether you can hear yourself when speaking is important for comfort too.
Thanks for watching! Yes, sidetone is very important when you wear headphones because with no sidetone and on a call, you won't realize how loud you're actually talking. We're also told it's very frustrating when wearing headphones without sidetone because you lose your train of thought when you can't hear yourself talking. If you have any other feedback on anyway we can improve in our future videos, we'd love to hear your thoughts.
Totally agree on this point and it is often overlooked on other reviews. It is as important as noise cancellation. Teams meetings are so important in today's working life that having this ability to hear yourself speak naturally in meetings is a huge advantage. Tilde Pro, have not let me down yet.
One thing to note is that while the XM5 doesn't have specifically a sidetone feature, it does have an outside sound mode, where it pipes the outside (including your own voice) back in, and the amount is configurable via the sony headphone app. That'd be counter-productive with a blender, but with normal office sounds, you can let in just a bit of the outside to hear yourself better (and I'm assuming it still sends a cancelled version of the mic to the computer). And even if you have the button set to let in only 10% of the outside in, you can still put your hand over the right cup to temp override that and let all outside sound in. As an aside, that is one aspect where I've found it shines for a work environment, even if it is a bit weaker on calls. It's nice to be able to switch between full noise cancelling and outside sounds with a simple toggle, without having to constantly take them on or off. Can even set it so it auto-switches to outside sounds when you start talking. Though I'm assuming the Orosound has ways of toggling that as well, so maybe that wouldn't be a factor in someone's decision.
Hi Drew, this comparison is super useful but the one other microphone test that would be helpful is shared office when another person is talking nearby at normal volume.
@@dualblader awesome! If you're ordering within the US or Canada from us, contact us anytime when the headsets arrive if you need technical support or general product questions.
Such a brilliant comparison of what I think are "two titans" of ANC headphones/headsets in 2023. I felt like they were both comparable in most areas. One can't go wrong with either of these! It seemed as if the voice of the speaker was a 'little' bit more amplified on the XM5s. And the ANC on the Orosound was a 'little' bit better(especially during the baby crying test). Again, so comparable to one another! Thanks so much Headset Advisor.
I wish I saw this before buying XM5s as I am about to return them. Unfortunately, in the office they just picked up the voices of everyone on call around me - which was terrible. Lesson learned :)
@@BlerionMuco-ng6un there isn't a way to turn voice isolation on the headset. Your phone or computer call/meeting software would need this feature and you'd turn it on there.
Guys, is there any chance to compare something with Logi Pro X? I think that is CAN be a business level as well. Blue Voice microphone sounds brillant - what about mic. noice cancelling... - you are experts of this :)
no sidetone is a deal breaker for me. Jabra evolve2 85h or bose 700uc win out for work calls in my opinion as they have all the features including sidetone or "self voice" feature
@@HeadsetAdvisor Is there a work-around to get sidetone for the Sony headphones? I just bought a pair of these and love them - only missing sidetone for work calls. I can use the computer built in "listen to device" but that has a lag that throws me off even more than not hearing my voice... I wondered about getting a USB bluetooth Dongle - is this an option to get real-time sidetone or outside sound feedback?
Hi guys many thanks for your reviews, I have one question Is there any app for the Orosound in order to keep them updated and also EQ their sound as well? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Hi Jose, you're welcome and thanks for watching! Orosound does make an app called "Link" where you can update your headset and customize certain settings, but there's no EQ adjustment at the current time. That will probably change in the future though. www.orosound.com/orosound-link/
Thank you for this review. Can I ask if anyone knows if it's possible to use a noise cancelling pair of headphones with an external mic to get audio quality similar to the camera mic in the video? Noise cancelling mics muffle the voice audio, so was wondering if it's advisable to get a boom mic or something similar and then connect it with your noise cancelling headphones
You're welcome! Is your main use for calls and meetings? If so, the microphones on many work headsets like the Tilde Pro or others will be plenty fine. It would be a surprise if anyone commented saying your voice wasn't coming across clearly. Plus, if you ever do happen to be around noise, you'll be thankful to have a microphone with noise cancellation. That being said, if you're looking for the very best microphone quality, you could consider adding the ModMic to any pair of headphones of your choice, or you'd want to get some sort of Condenser microphone. ModMic video review with mic test here: czcams.com/video/Tut1KDa_S3M/video.html
I’m doing something wrong? I just got a XM5 and the mic is captioning other people speaking around me, like 2~ meters away!! That’s terrible because I got it to use on work calls
The microphone noise cancellation is built in so there's no way to turn it on or off. All noise canceling microphones won't be perfect and still have limitations in certain environments.
Thanks. Although I have to say that this review didn’t helped me at all. Sure it cancels noises in the background, but don’t cancel other voices. Who the hell has a blender on the office? There’s other people talking. Tests should replicate actual scenarios. Thanks for the reply though. I’m sure this is the best headset to listen to audio. I’ve never had such a premium product, but damn, the microphone sucks so bad 😢
i have the xm5 , you can only adjust settings for noise canceling in Sony's headphone app, i have it setup and it blocks everything out fine. try to put 2 fingers oon your right ear sensor in the midle next to eachother,and hold for about 5 seconds,then it turns off auto environmental sounds activated through voices arround
I just returned them because of this. Can you explain more what holding on two fingers does? For me it was just speak to chat on/off by holding fingers and draging the outside/inside
Hi ! I have a question, this test was made as "headset" configuration? I mean, using same device for input and output on the test? I'm interested to use the Sony headset for work and to listen HiFi music on my iPhone (also have a lenovo thinkpad laptop, so I'm guessing will have the same quality sound/mic) Thanks in advance!
touch controls don’t belong on the side of your head∂. I would always prefer buttons because then you can feel out where the buttons are on both headsets and ear buds. I am not really liking the direction these companies are going with the whole touch control thing on both the headsets and earbuds. they just make life harder and more frustrating.
I've found the xm5 is a lot better than the xm4 for the touch controls. Very reliable to move the volume up or down or skip forward or back. The xm4, it caused me frustration at times, but this one seems very seamless.
@@HeadsetAdvisor hey thanks for the reply. For future vids I'd recommend doing the test via an alt device and not the source, mainly because this vid is targeted for work use, it doesn't accurately represent the, changes I guess you could say, that a software like teams does to a mic.
Hello guys, i just bought the XM5. I am doing calls but the voice isolation ( when i make a call the other person on a call wants to hear only my voice not the noises around) seems to not work. Is there any to turn it on and off?
Thank you for this video I have questions how to increase sensitivity of sony xm5 microphone I bought this headphones but no one can hear my voice when I'm at street. Please HELP me I'm so upset
Hi Drew! I just bought XM5 because your promising review on mic tests (noise reduction). However, it turns out there is no noise reduction at all during my call using Google meet or zoom app (connected w/ laptop). Is there any solutions or audio settings that I need to apply? 😢
Howdy! Sorry to hear the XM5 isn't working the same as our test. Double check a setting in your computer called "intel smart sound", go to your device manager > sound and video game controllers > if you have a setting called intel smart sound, disable this, restart your computer and see if any different result.
@@kurosaki_ichigo_jpg Hmm maybe try connecting to your cell phone and doing a test call to see if there's any difference. Headphones like XM5 connected to a computer via Bluetooth are hit and miss on if or how well it works.
6:27 Your voice sounds robotic… the Sony sounds better. Recommending it over for work over the Sony, at least in this video, seems like personal preference than factually based. I would go with the Sony, seems better overall.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint; however, we didn't have the same perspective. Through years of conducting microphone tests, we've come to understand that sound perception can be very subjective. When selecting a headset for a professional environment, there's multiple factors beyond just the microphone quality. In our experience, the Tilde Pro is superior in nearly every aspect when it comes to work-related settings.
Dude sold his soul to Orosound Tilde Pro makers, it is clear as day, as mic quality showed basically no noticeable difference. Son has superior audio quality, while competition here, is mediocre at best....
Sony did good work on the XM5, but there's a number of factors to consider depending on each persons needs. If you're someone on calls or meetings for a living in distracting environments, the Tilde Pro is better in just about every way.
If you are planning to use it for work (Microsoft Teams), do not get the XM5. There are connection issues and they have not been resolved. I was fooled by this channels review of the XM5. Dont make the same mistake as me.
You were fooled by our channel or a different channel of the XM5 review? I ask because we do not recommend the XM5 for those wanting to use the XM5 for business applications like Teams, and we make that very clear for the exact type of reasons you just mentioned.
@@HeadsetAdvisor I am on mobile but I am looking for two old videos on the XM5 on your channel. The first video review with horrible mic test and the second one with Microsoft teams review in which you retested the mic. But for whatever reason I can't seem to find the second video anymore. Is that video still available?
@@AyOri1991 we only had two videos on the XM5. The one where we messed up the mic tests (since been deleted) and the one we currently have at the link below. We provide the pros and cons of any headsets we review and let you decide what’s best. That being said, any consumer headphones we review like XM5, XM4, AirPods Max etc.. we make it very clear we do not recommend these types of headphones for work applications because reasons like you’ve experienced and many others. czcams.com/video/pynPasz0XQI/video.html
to be honest .... cosindering a superior sound quality,, when one is also playing music ..... Sony is superior.... without a stupid mic hanging over your mouth.
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Good that you mentioned about sidetone. This is missed by a large no of reviewers. Whether you can hear yourself when speaking is important for comfort too.
Thanks for watching! Yes, sidetone is very important when you wear headphones because with no sidetone and on a call, you won't realize how loud you're actually talking.
We're also told it's very frustrating when wearing headphones without sidetone because you lose your train of thought when you can't hear yourself talking.
If you have any other feedback on anyway we can improve in our future videos, we'd love to hear your thoughts.
Totally agree on this point and it is often overlooked on other reviews. It is as important as noise cancellation. Teams meetings are so important in today's working life that having this ability to hear yourself speak naturally in meetings is a huge advantage. Tilde Pro, have not let me down yet.
@@peterdallyn6440 spot on! Glad the Tilde Pro has been treating you well, let us know if we can help in the future.
One thing to note is that while the XM5 doesn't have specifically a sidetone feature, it does have an outside sound mode, where it pipes the outside (including your own voice) back in, and the amount is configurable via the sony headphone app. That'd be counter-productive with a blender, but with normal office sounds, you can let in just a bit of the outside to hear yourself better (and I'm assuming it still sends a cancelled version of the mic to the computer). And even if you have the button set to let in only 10% of the outside in, you can still put your hand over the right cup to temp override that and let all outside sound in.
As an aside, that is one aspect where I've found it shines for a work environment, even if it is a bit weaker on calls. It's nice to be able to switch between full noise cancelling and outside sounds with a simple toggle, without having to constantly take them on or off. Can even set it so it auto-switches to outside sounds when you start talking. Though I'm assuming the Orosound has ways of toggling that as well, so maybe that wouldn't be a factor in someone's decision.
@@ShawnFumo thanks for being part of the channel! Love the feedback.
Hi Drew, this comparison is super useful but the one other microphone test that would be helpful is shared office when another person is talking nearby at normal volume.
Glad it was helpful. Give this video a look czcams.com/video/_1I1ov-xQxQ/video.html
@@HeadsetAdvisor Super helpful, the Orosound Tilde Pro is looking like it might be what we need. Thanks!
@@dualblader awesome! If you're ordering within the US or Canada from us, contact us anytime when the headsets arrive if you need technical support or general product questions.
Such a brilliant comparison of what I think are "two titans" of ANC headphones/headsets in 2023. I felt like they were both comparable in most areas. One can't go wrong with either of these! It seemed as if the voice of the speaker was a 'little' bit more amplified on the XM5s. And the ANC on the Orosound was a 'little' bit better(especially during the baby crying test). Again, so comparable to one another! Thanks so much Headset Advisor.
Thanks for your feedback! 🙏
wow, Sony has a great mic quality for calls. I didn't know at first, but now I think it is worth the price.
It's very obviously a marketing video for the Tilde Pro
funny thing is, I leaned pretty much towards the sony, from this video.
@@Leinsterbaby This video actually made me purchase the xm5. It's been a year since and it's still going strong.
I wish I saw this before buying XM5s as I am about to return them. Unfortunately, in the office they just picked up the voices of everyone on call around me - which was terrible. Lesson learned :)
Now you know 🙂
Did you try this after updating the firmware? I read it's a huge difference - and I'm debating upgrading from the XM2s :)
@@joeh3910Dod you get the XM5s? How were the calls after updating firmware?
@@HeadsetAdvisor how should i trun on the voice isolation?
@@BlerionMuco-ng6un there isn't a way to turn voice isolation on the headset. Your phone or computer call/meeting software would need this feature and you'd turn it on there.
I think the XM5 performance is incredible for a headphone that has NO mic boom arm !!
It's decent and works well for some personal calls.
Great review! I tried the Sony XM4 and the noise cancellation and sound quality was terrible. I think I liked the other brand better overall
Thanks for watching!
Guys, is there any chance to compare something with Logi Pro X? I think that is CAN be a business level as well. Blue Voice microphone sounds brillant - what about mic. noice cancelling... - you are experts of this :)
We'll take a look
Do you have any recommendations for a wireless headphones that works well with work calls (both phone and pc/laptop), great for music, portable?
1. Orosound Tilde Pro
2. Opencomm 2 UC
3. Yealink BH71
Depending on your exact needs would determine which model to go with of the three.
no sidetone is a deal breaker for me. Jabra evolve2 85h or bose 700uc win out for work calls in my opinion as they have all the features including sidetone or "self voice" feature
Agreed, sidetone is important for headphones if you plan to use for work calls/meetings.
@@HeadsetAdvisor Is there a work-around to get sidetone for the Sony headphones? I just bought a pair of these and love them - only missing sidetone for work calls. I can use the computer built in "listen to device" but that has a lag that throws me off even more than not hearing my voice... I wondered about getting a USB bluetooth Dongle - is this an option to get real-time sidetone or outside sound feedback?
@@meaksam unfortunately there’s no way to add sidetone we’re aware of 🙁
Hii nice video ! Could you please make comparison between Sony Mx5 and Jabrar 75 ?
Thank you!
Miata headphones HAHA
Hi guys many thanks for your reviews, I have one question Is there any app for the Orosound in order to keep them updated and also EQ their sound as well? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Hi Jose, you're welcome and thanks for watching! Orosound does make an app called "Link" where you can update your headset and customize certain settings, but there's no EQ adjustment at the current time. That will probably change in the future though. www.orosound.com/orosound-link/
Superb vidoe, appreciate your hard work
Thanks for your support!
Thank you for this review. Can I ask if anyone knows if it's possible to use a noise cancelling pair of headphones with an external mic to get audio quality similar to the camera mic in the video? Noise cancelling mics muffle the voice audio, so was wondering if it's advisable to get a boom mic or something similar and then connect it with your noise cancelling headphones
You're welcome! Is your main use for calls and meetings? If so, the microphones on many work headsets like the Tilde Pro or others will be plenty fine. It would be a surprise if anyone commented saying your voice wasn't coming across clearly. Plus, if you ever do happen to be around noise, you'll be thankful to have a microphone with noise cancellation.
That being said, if you're looking for the very best microphone quality, you could consider adding the ModMic to any pair of headphones of your choice, or you'd want to get some sort of Condenser microphone.
ModMic video review with mic test here: czcams.com/video/Tut1KDa_S3M/video.html
I’m doing something wrong?
I just got a XM5 and the mic is captioning other people speaking around me, like 2~ meters away!!
That’s terrible because I got it to use on work calls
The microphone noise cancellation is built in so there's no way to turn it on or off. All noise canceling microphones won't be perfect and still have limitations in certain environments.
Thanks. Although I have to say that this review didn’t helped me at all.
Sure it cancels noises in the background, but don’t cancel other voices. Who the hell has a blender on the office?
There’s other people talking. Tests should replicate actual scenarios. Thanks for the reply though.
I’m sure this is the best headset to listen to audio.
I’ve never had such a premium product, but damn, the microphone sucks so bad 😢
i have the xm5 , you can only adjust settings for noise canceling in Sony's headphone app, i have it setup and it blocks everything out fine. try to put 2 fingers oon your right ear sensor in the midle next to eachother,and hold for about 5 seconds,then it turns off auto environmental sounds activated through voices arround
@@bassax7045 thanks, but I changed for a Jabra2 Evolve 85. Couldn’t be happier 😝
I just returned them because of this. Can you explain more what holding on two fingers does? For me it was just speak to chat on/off by holding fingers and draging the outside/inside
Hi !
I have a question, this test was made as "headset" configuration? I mean, using same device for input and output on the test?
I'm interested to use the Sony headset for work and to listen HiFi music on my iPhone (also have a lenovo thinkpad laptop, so I'm guessing will have the same quality sound/mic)
Thanks in advance!
Yes, input/output was the same and is what you can expect for mic quality.
touch controls don’t belong on the side of your head∂. I would always prefer buttons because then you can feel out where the buttons are on both headsets and ear buds. I am not really liking the direction these companies are going with the whole touch control thing on both the headsets and earbuds. they just make life harder and more frustrating.
I've found the xm5 is a lot better than the xm4 for the touch controls. Very reliable to move the volume up or down or skip forward or back. The xm4, it caused me frustration at times, but this one seems very seamless.
Could you please review the Beyerdynamic Space? Thanks!
Let us have a look!
But did you record the mic audio via 2nd laptop through teams or just source input..?
Hi Joshua, we recorded both headsets the same way through Windows sound recorder
@@HeadsetAdvisor hey thanks for the reply.
For future vids I'd recommend doing the test via an alt device and not the source, mainly because this vid is targeted for work use, it doesn't accurately represent the, changes I guess you could say, that a software like teams does to a mic.
Hello guys, i just bought the XM5.
I am doing calls but the voice isolation ( when i make a call the other person on a call wants to hear only my voice not the noises around) seems to not work.
Is there any to turn it on and off?
This could only be done if your phone offers voice isolation, usually Android or iPhone. Do you have either of those phones?
Thank you for this video I have questions how to increase sensitivity of sony xm5 microphone I bought this headphones but no one can hear my voice when I'm at street. Please HELP me I'm so upset
You're welcome! Unfortunately there's no way we're aware of to control the microphone sensitivity.
Hi Drew!
I just bought XM5 because your promising review on mic tests (noise reduction).
However, it turns out there is no noise reduction at all during my call using Google meet or zoom app (connected w/ laptop). Is there any solutions or audio settings that I need to apply? 😢
Howdy! Sorry to hear the XM5 isn't working the same as our test. Double check a setting in your computer called "intel smart sound", go to your device manager > sound and video game controllers > if you have a setting called intel smart sound, disable this, restart your computer and see if any different result.
@@HeadsetAdvisor Thank you for the advice, but it still doesn't work :")
@@kurosaki_ichigo_jpg Hmm maybe try connecting to your cell phone and doing a test call to see if there's any difference. Headphones like XM5 connected to a computer via Bluetooth are hit and miss on if or how well it works.
I am interested, if you managed to fix it as I am to by it as well.
Have you solve this? super delabreaker!
too fast in Mic Test, a bit slower would be much better for someone like me for better comparison
@@SewakSingh1 thank you for the feedback to help us improve in the future!
6:27
Your voice sounds robotic… the Sony sounds better. Recommending it over for work over the Sony, at least in this video, seems like personal preference than factually based.
I would go with the Sony, seems better overall.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint; however, we didn't have the same perspective. Through years of conducting microphone tests, we've come to understand that sound perception can be very subjective. When selecting a headset for a professional environment, there's multiple factors beyond just the microphone quality. In our experience, the Tilde Pro is superior in nearly every aspect when it comes to work-related settings.
Dude sold his soul to Orosound Tilde Pro makers, it is clear as day, as mic quality showed basically no noticeable difference. Son has superior audio quality, while competition here, is mediocre at best....
Sony did good work on the XM5, but there's a number of factors to consider depending on each persons needs. If you're someone on calls or meetings for a living in distracting environments, the Tilde Pro is better in just about every way.
If you are planning to use it for work (Microsoft Teams), do not get the XM5. There are connection issues and they have not been resolved. I was fooled by this channels review of the XM5. Dont make the same mistake as me.
You were fooled by our channel or a different channel of the XM5 review? I ask because we do not recommend the XM5 for those wanting to use the XM5 for business applications like Teams, and we make that very clear for the exact type of reasons you just mentioned.
@@HeadsetAdvisor I approve of this message.
@@lifestylesketch4676 Sounds like you watch our content 😄
@@HeadsetAdvisor I am on mobile but I am looking for two old videos on the XM5 on your channel. The first video review with horrible mic test and the second one with Microsoft teams review in which you retested the mic. But for whatever reason I can't seem to find the second video anymore. Is that video still available?
@@AyOri1991 we only had two videos on the XM5. The one where we messed up the mic tests (since been deleted) and the one we currently have at the link below.
We provide the pros and cons of any headsets we review and let you decide what’s best. That being said, any consumer headphones we review like XM5, XM4, AirPods Max etc.. we make it very clear we do not recommend these types of headphones for work applications because reasons like you’ve experienced and many others.
czcams.com/video/pynPasz0XQI/video.html
No mute mic button, this is sh1t
to be honest .... cosindering a superior sound quality,, when one is also playing music ..... Sony is superior.... without a stupid mic hanging over your mouth.
Of course there's no denying Sony is better for music, that's what they're made for.