The Dark Side of EVs : A Critical look at the Unintended Consequences of Electrification

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • Join us as we delve into the shadows of electric vehicle (EV) technology in 'The Dark Side of EVs.' From the environmental toll of lithium mining to the ethical dilemmas of cobalt sourcing, we uncover the unintended consequences of electrification. Explore the complexities of sustainable transportation and challenge the green narrative surrounding EVs. Watch now for a critical examination of the true costs of going electric.
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:18 Historical Evolution
    2:20 Rise of Electric Vehicles
    2:34 Environmental Footprint
    4:00 Lithium Mining and Water Depletion
    5:06 Ethical Concerns
    5:20 Recycling Challenges
    5:40 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 38

  • @someguy5438
    @someguy5438 Před 2 měsíci +6

    But the fossil fuel industry is led by bastions of virtue.

  • @ThePhiphler
    @ThePhiphler Před 2 měsíci +5

    The conventional fuel industry uses more cobalt than the EV industry does. Cobalt is used in refineries in large quantities. It's also used in many medical alloys. The tone of this video makes me question who paid you to produce it.

    • @glennmartin6492
      @glennmartin6492 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Newer battery productions don't use cobalt.

  • @st-ex8506
    @st-ex8506 Před 2 měsíci +8

    It is true that the manufacturing of the average EV generates 8.1 tonnes of CO2, according to Argonne National Laboratory. But rather that stressing how huge that is, it would be good to say that producing the average gasoline vehicle produces 5.5 tonnes of CO2, according to the same source. And then, you could add that the difference, the "carbon debt" of the EV is amortized in 5-15'000 miles, depending on the models, or a year of driving or less for the average US motorist.
    That would be good, fact-based journalism!
    BTW, NO EV battery produces 17 tonnes of CO2, not even half... except ONE, that of the Hummer EV3X! A monster! No, an abomination!
    Then, you mention that half the lithium supply comes from the so-called "lithium triangle"... which was true... a couple of years ago! But huge lithium resources are being found EVERYWHERE in the world, in the US of A (CA, NV, ...), UK, France, Portugal, and of course Australia .... well, lithium is being proven to be found everywhere, and quite often in extremely easily exploitable forms, such as underground brines.
    So, a good journalist would present the situation of tomorrow, not that of yesterday! You could have also said that the water needed to produce the lithium for the average EV's battery is the same as the amount of water needed to produce one pair of jeans (!!!), or 2 lb of steak! THAT would have been more useful than the number of tonnes of water per tonne of lithium, a quantity to which no one can relate to!
    There are indeed artisanal cobalt mines in the RDC, in which work conditions, especially those of children, are shocking. But that would be interesting to add that not an once, not a gram of that cobalt is finding its way into an EV battery... which cannot be said of the catalyst used to refine the gasoline and diesel fuel going into ICE vehicle. That is no poor journalism, but PURE DISINFORMATION!
    Disposal methods for end-of-life batteries? No such things exist! EV batteries must, by law be recycled at 100%. It is true that a battery improperly removed from, say, an EV totaled in an accident, can be a fire risk. So, they are NOT stored as such, but rather ground and milled to what is called in the industry the "black mass", which IS safe to store, awaiting recycling of its constituting elements.
    You have succeeded in making a video presenting most, but not all, the obsolete things, falsehoods and other utter lies and myths being spread around on the topic of EV. Congratulations!
    I, as a specialist engineer stand at your disposal to help you do better on your next video!

    • @tarkadahl1985
      @tarkadahl1985 Před 2 měsíci +1

      doesn't care wants clickbait shite for trump supporters.

  • @peterhealey2668
    @peterhealey2668 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The simplest solution to the EV problems is to just give it up.

  • @JD-oc3jx
    @JD-oc3jx Před 2 měsíci +4

    The new sodium batteries don't contain lithium or cobalt and there is plenty of sodium in the ocean. (NaCl)

    • @atomicanalyzer
      @atomicanalyzer  Před 2 měsíci

      But that is not mainstreamed yet

    • @pitskywitbulls1270
      @pitskywitbulls1270 Před 2 měsíci

      Sodium batteries can't hold the the same charge as Li-Ion. To get the same benefit as Li-Ion batteries, sodium batteries would have to be much larger and would double or triple the weight of battery.

    • @KeVIn-pm7pu
      @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@atomicanalyzer Should still be mentioned. further there are a lot of other batteries that dont use lithium and even lithium batteries are using less and less or even no cobalt anymore. all worthy of even mentioning.

    • @KeVIn-pm7pu
      @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@pitskywitbulls1270 They are much cheaper which is much more important. further the risk of a thermalrun away is not existing. and with 140 wh/kg still plenty of energy density.

    • @pitskywitbulls1270
      @pitskywitbulls1270 Před 2 měsíci

      @@KeVIn-pm7pu Far safer battery tech for sure but I doubt it will bring the overall cost of the car down much plus sodium is 3x heavier. That's going going to have an impact on distance, design, handling... Lots of things change when you add weight.

  • @arkoudakafe
    @arkoudakafe Před 2 měsíci +1

    we need to get rid of evs asap

  • @howardfrench8951
    @howardfrench8951 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So EVs are bad because of lithium mining, so if you could stop it what would become of your cordless power tools, laptop, tablet, and cellphone? They all use lithium batteries and have been using them far longer then EVs. Then there is Medical equipment , cordless headphones and earphones, wireless speakers and wristwatches. There is a lot more than EVs on the dark side.

  • @tomc.2808
    @tomc.2808 Před 2 měsíci

    I am sure EVs can be used in future, but it will take completely different technology, and other 50 years of development...

  • @dinissoares4165
    @dinissoares4165 Před 2 měsíci

    Air Production - Fly Dragon - Close Air System
    Cars can work by atmosferic air
    This idea came from 11 years ago. They tried to have a car with air and petrol but it did not work. l asked why ? and l got the solution . We can do this only by air , not normal ways to make engines until now .
    Atmospheric air, if worked in a closed circuit can make a car moving . We have this idea in the Air Conditioning for cold , with compression and decompression , czcams.com/video/CNofxbMUsnY/video.html valves to close and open at the same time we can do it . But l do not have money for make any investiment. But the ideia is mine and is my name i want to be the person l developed for the first time .
    Air can be used from 7 to 50 bars easily but also can go 600 bars and more , like gas from petrol Technology , and oil industry for factories that are very advanced .
    Factories can work by air engines ,industrial fans generators to do electricity , bouts , and a lot of things, small airplanes or big ?
    That is very difficult to implant because it touches lots of industries but is a solution for our environment .
    All the three must work to save the Earth
    Dinis Soares

  • @thetechq
    @thetechq Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mandating EVs is silly. Someone who drives very little would literally be better off and have less income buying a gas car. People who need EVs can buy them. That is the free market.

  • @hanswallner2188
    @hanswallner2188 Před 2 měsíci +1

    While every EV maker obviously try to improve environmental factors of EV production, the environmental impact of EVs are ridiculously small compared to ICE cars, it is very unmasking and obvious that this environmental discussion against EVs is result of targeting campaigns to keep oil burning going as the big money is there.
    Nothing is more harmful for the environment as ICE cars and other usage of fossile fuels, it is a ridiculous discussion, and the nonsense story with the cobalt kids in africa is BS, and is brought up over and over again. Raw materials like lithium and cobalt (which is only used in about half of EVs, and by the way in many industries like oil industry and ICE car industry as well) are pretty low and environmental factors are clearly on the EV side. Consider the lifetime cycle of a car, if you do the math the result is terrible and shocking for ICE cars, and it shows how necessary it is to go away from ICE cars and go the EV road as fast as possible.

  • @ronknight3417
    @ronknight3417 Před 2 měsíci

    this is just shocking

    • @KeVIn-pm7pu
      @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci +1

      agreed this video is void of much information. it gives a very wrong impression.

  • @KeVIn-pm7pu
    @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci

    Ok this video is an disapointment certainly not worthy of the channel name.
    The pure lack of information makes it more of a misinformation video as it leads you to a wrong assumptions if you do not know any better. Many other commemtars pointed out a few of them. Frankly you should pull this video; get back on researching as there is plenty of information about this topic and improve this video before you reupload it updated. 3 minutes about evs just isnt enough to cover the topic in depth to give a honest objective view on it.
    Especially the point about co2 emissions is infurating the comparison just isnt fair to begin with. If you compare them you need to look at life time emissions or at least mention the far greater co2 reduction while you drive a ev.
    A few graphics and statistics would be nice as well.
    Hope you improve on it hate to see your potential go to waste.😊

  • @tomc.2808
    @tomc.2808 Před 2 měsíci

    EVs and Fani are toasts 🥪+🥪

    • @hanswallner2188
      @hanswallner2188 Před 2 měsíci +2

      No reasonable person would consider this two completely different topics in such a comment, and BTW EVs are the future, and they are a much cleaner and more environmentally friendly future, if you get it or not does not make any difference. Every EV on the road replacing an ICE car is a tremendous benefit for the environment, despite targeted attempts to spread BS and delay their progress in adoption.

    • @tomc.2808
      @tomc.2808 Před 2 měsíci

      @@hanswallner2188 I am glad you agree, I just forgot Joe...🥪🥪🥪

  • @TannerCarpenter
    @TannerCarpenter Před 2 měsíci

    I think the question of their ethicality is required for long term consideration. After all EVs required slave & child labor, especially early on to be created in the first place. In other words EVs literally used modern slavery as a stepping stone to create the entire EV revolution. What's worse is people knew about this BEFORE EVs started to grow, & still purchased the vehicles.
    As if that isn't bad enough EVs enthusiast actually try & justify it, by using comparisons.

    • @hanswallner2188
      @hanswallner2188 Před 2 měsíci

      Don't spread this nonsense BS of slave and child labor, that is true for oil industry, go and watch Nigeria, but not for EVs, it is nonsense and a targeted campain to delay EV adoption, as this is the biggest threat in history for the oil industry.
      Every sane person with some technical knowledge can see immediately that EVs are the future, besides all other factors the 70% saving in primary energy ends the discussion immediately, it is ridiculous that this after all these years still is not understood by so many.

    • @tarkadahl1985
      @tarkadahl1985 Před 2 měsíci

      Any thoughts on the source of cobalt in dual refinery for the last 5 decades... Just sayin

  • @gscurd75
    @gscurd75 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sorry but the consequences of forcing electrification are absolutely intended.

    • @hanswallner2188
      @hanswallner2188 Před 2 měsíci

      Migration to EVs is a necessity to long term survival, no reasonable person would want to keep burning oil and polluting the environment on such a scale as we did the last few hundred years, oil and coal are finite ressources, only a suicidal society would keep doing that.
      EVs are much cleaner, much less maintenance, the save about 70% of primary energy, it is a ridiculous discussion and shows how many people are still completely clueless and fall for anti EV propaganda, which is funded mostly from big oil, as EVs are there biggest threat to their existence.

    • @KeVIn-pm7pu
      @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci

      what consequences?

    • @gscurd75
      @gscurd75 Před 2 měsíci

      @KeVIn-pm7pu The short version is the weakening of the US and other western countries.

    • @KeVIn-pm7pu
      @KeVIn-pm7pu Před 2 měsíci

      @@gscurd75 Bs. electification makes the us future prove and helps against climate change which futher stops a weakening of the us and other western countries.

    • @gscurd75
      @gscurd75 Před 2 měsíci

      @KeVIn-pm7pu BS. It does nothing for climate change and the states that have forced it like CA have energy costs that are 3x higher than most other states and cannot supply enough power. Every year they suffer from blackouts and brownouts and it will only get worse as more people are forced into electric cars.