Chaos Over Amsterdam! - Second VATSIM Flight in the 737-800 - EHAM to EGKK
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- Today we take our second flight on Vatsim in the Boeing 737-800 from Schiphol Amsterdam Airport (EHAM) back to Gatwick (EGKK).
Looking back, this was possibly not the greatest route to have chosen for a first flight. It was incredibly busy and I felt like I barely had a moment to catch a breath. Maybe a longer flight next time!
My thanks to the controllers for their patience and special shoutout to the Amsterdam radar controller, it was busy!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:44 - Clearance & Pushback
04:08 - Taxi
05:25 - Take off and Departure
08:13 - Chaos and Cruise!
09:10 - Descent and Approach
13:12 - Landing
15:02 - Taxi to Gate
15:40 - Closing Thoughts
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I was your London Control (South) controller. I just about remember your flight. The more you fly, the more you know what to expect what ATC will say. Best of luck!
Ah fantastic! Thank you for your patience and help. Very overwhelming right now, but can certainly feel it drawing me in!
Expedite climb means increase your rate of climb. You can switch over to vertical speed mode and input a rate manually, but I prefer to select the MAX RATE button on the CLB page of the FMC and let VNAV do the calculation. Then when ATC calls later to resume normal rate you can cancel.
Also a couple of other suggestions; I noticed your PTT was on the side stick not the yoke; I have the same setup as you with the TCA yoke and the airbus stick and throttle and I suggest using vJoy to assign a virtual input to both the trigger on the yoke and on the side stick so they can both act as PTT buttons. Also, if you are willing to invest in new hardware, the Logitech radio panel is a dream for VATSIM and makes switching frequencies so much easier.
Awesome, thanks! Yeah I’ve been looking at the Logitech stuff, looks cool!
I have a stutter and it must drive the controllers crazy but the patience they show is unbelievable. I take my hat off to everyone of them !!
You can connect GSX already for the push. And when you are cleared for push and start, just release parking brake and you are ready to go. So there won't be much time between clearance and the pushback.
@7:50 when he asked to expedite climb when passing FL100, the controller is asking you to keep the same V/S after you pass FL100 rather than the normal accelerating from 250kts. This is because to accelerate from 250kts (to 287kts in your case) levels off your climb. Likely there was traffic nearby at that altitude, so he didn't want you leveling off to accelerate yet. The way to perform this quickly, would be to just hit the speed intervention button when he requested to expedite. Then you would have maintained an indicated speed of 250kts with a climb at approximately 3800fpm (that you were doing at the time) rather than what happened where it reduced to 700fpm to accelerate. Then when he said "normal rate again", hit the VNAV button to allow the aircraft to start accelerating on the new climb profile.
This channel is exactly what is needed for someone thinking of flying with Vatsim. Too many channels tell you how to do it once they have been doing it for a fair while whilst this channel shows you the pitfalls once you start, oh and the short flights are the best to get used to the flow think of it like rubbing the belly whilst rubbing your head, Brilliant flight from two difficult airspaces.
I can't believe this channel only has 7k subs... if you keep this up it will grow. These videos are some of the best, it's really interesting as a beginner myself to see your learning curve and your commentary in general is perfect. I love the vids, please please make more vatsim videos.
I’m on it 🙂 appreciate the kind words 👍
In Amsterdam Schiphol you always taxi on the right side if there are parallel taxi ways, thats why the atc didn't say bravo. It should give you that information somewhere on your charts. So Schiphol = always right side taxi!
Ah I didn’t know that, thanks!
you did great. just starting with vatsim and it can be chaos. Luckily I have my son to help me through it all. He's a pro at it. We usually do flights together. Keep it up. Great video.
Btw i dont know much about boeings but at least in the A320 when you're established on the localiser, you also have to press the APPR button (approach). It will descend with the g/s for you. :)
Best way to learn my friend is to be thrown in the deep end, or at least this is what my Dad did for me at the swimming pool, I learnt to swim Though!!
AirNott, i can't recommend highly enough to you 'Vatsim Radio' You, like me are a Vatsim Noob, and this has helped me out no end. No need to plan future Freq's as you can see who is online and what your next controller will be, then you just click on the Freq needed and it will put it the Active or Standby radio Freq on the aircraft. Flying these Jets without the help of a 1st officer is bloody difficult, and when on Vatsim at busy time, and you on Final, last thing you want to do is Dive down to the radio panel.
Bloody well done though. When i land and come off Vatsim, i am literally sweating and have the hand shakes, but it is a great achievement.
PS. It also helped me to listen in on Vatsim as an 'Observer' at a busy time on a Tower/Controller or Appr. You learn the lingo, learn that other people make silly mistakes, and often have a good laugh at some of the controllers comments to us lowely pilots.
Enjoyed the video - getting ready to do my first Vatsim very soon. I will plan to not be nervous :)
One thing I've heard, no need to say "with you" but I probably will. I guess it would just be something like "XYZ approach, Ryanair 226 flight level 140 descending level 110" or similar
some controllers go beast mode on vatsim, seen dudes on tower at heathrow doing taxi clearence aswell as vectoring aircraft into land and dealing with departures, i honestly dont know how they juggle it all
It’s so cool to just sit and listen sometimes.
Remember to follow the Standard Taxi Procedures in EHAM unless advised by the controller. Taxiways move only oneway like the one you took on Bravo but can't take Bravo from the opposite direction. I have had Ground telling me "Eurowings and RynAir are waiting for you to taxi" and will ask them to follow me till the Apron.
You should try Approaching EHAM and standby and watch with popcorn how fun it is when they start dishing out the famous "prosheed direckt shuugol, after shuugol direckt sherra pappa yenkie, deshend flight leffel sheffen sherro, leffel bij shuugol"😂
Well done on your first two flights, an impressive start! Showing it on CZcams will also help many other beginners!
Just to add to the many great tips that have already been given: stay ahead of the plane and plan your next steps: what actions to perform next, what is the routing going to be like (altitude/speed restrictions, climb/descend) and so on.
Keep monitoring the systems to see if the plane is doing what it should be doing (as you found out when the glidepath wasn't capturing, well caught!).
Listening out to instructions given to traffic ahead of you also helps, you might be given the same shortly.
Also, prepare the flight by looking up airport briefings on the various VATSIM sites of the airport you are flying in and out of, they often contain important notes about restrictions and procedures.
Schiphol for example uses a one-way taxi system with taxiway Bravo going counter-clockwise, which you would have been able to see on the parking stands chart, the (useful) Navigraph diagram that you used for taxiing does not show that.
Maybe try doing some longer routes for your next flights (1,5 - 2 hours) to give you some breathing time between departure and arrivals? The two routes you've done now are quite challenging because everything happens very fast. Oh, and when first contacting a controller, don't forget to start your transmission by stating the name of who you are contacting (xxx Ground, xxx Tower, and so on).
Good luck on your next flights and enjoy!
Wow, thank you for such a thoughtful reply. Yes, I think you’re right, next time, a longer route is required! Still confused as to why the plane didn’t pick up the glideslope, weird!
@@AirNOTT You're welcome, looking forward to seeing your next flight!
great video!
Pretty Butter landing for Ryanair Standards ;)
really enjoying these vatsim videos
I love the video AirNOTT, Im someone who is thinking of getting into MFSF and Vatsim so watching videos like yours is really helpful. One thing I noticed (i say this as a complete novice so I could be wrong) I think the aircraft didn't capture the glideslope on landing as you only had 1 of the 2 autopilots engaged, I think for autoland you need both CMD A and CMD B engaged for it to work. but otherwise, you did really good and I'm looking forward to your next video! Keep it up!
Great content. Love these short European hop vids. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! Hoping it starts to get easier eventually 😂
@@AirNOTT When it doesn't go right it's also fun :P Good luck with the channel +sub :)
really cool according to second flight eham is an very confusing airport but man good work
Great video Nott💪
I love the videos ❤.
Great job, well done, I'm impressed, you're making me think I need to do a big airport like Gatwick. So far, I've done Dublin and Edinburgh on unicomm, and Birmingham and Kastrup with controllers.
Weirdly I don’t find the big airports too stressful, it’s more once I get into the air I feel the pressure. Best of luck with your VatSim adventures!
Really great effort. Try and keep auto pot on on finals, until cleared to land, that will make tuning radios easier
Ok this is crazy! First of all well done, second I did EHAM-EGKK 4 days ago using gate B23. What are the chances!
Hi, nice video as always! May I ask you for what headphones do you use? Thanks
damn, your brave.... EHAM and EGKK are some of the busiest airports in vatsim, but awesome vid.
I like very much did good job
You can turn the white dot off in the settings now. It came in with the sim update 13.
You're making good progress mate always remember to give back informations the order they were given to you and always state your callsign at end of transmission ! :)
Noted, thanks 🙏 hoping things start to feel more familiar soon. Must get on to flight number three!
that was fab, Im just about to buy a pc to jump into MSFS, taxying on big airports looks HARD ! I think I will need "taxisim" to be a thing 🙂
I’m sure your read back will get quicker the more you use Vatsim, great job though 🎉
well done mate im very similar to you at the moment with experience on vatsim! it gets easier
I hope you’re right!
Need to set altimeter to local QNH
Blud got to speak to the London controller lol
The Logitech radio panel is a game changer for VATsim.
Great job again though mate!
You do an arf pick the challenging airports!
Im a glutton for punishment! 😅 yeah I’ve been looking at the Logitech stuff, looks cool
Most ATC dislike it when you ask for push and start but aren't ready to actually push straight away, i usually just get GSX ready to push and then it can start straight away
Yes, lesson learned for sure 😅
Great stuff! Which mic do you use, sounds nice
It’s a Pyle PDMIC58, I believe. Really cheap, but you need a USB interface for it which adds to the total cost
If this was really your second VATSIM flight, you're way ahead of where I was....I'm now at about 113 hours on the network. I targeted taking 20 flights before making any judgement calls on whether VATSIM was for me. Now I feel bored if I *don't* fly on VATSIM. 🙂
Re: frequency changes, I was once flying into KBUR, and was being directed by SOCAL approach. Usually I watch the frequencies on the VPilot app to see what is available, but I didnt' this time. I was hand-flying my PMDG 737 on visual approach, and was told at about 6 miles to switch to Burbank Approach, which I didn't even know existed, let alone came online a few minutes prior. It was hairy trying to dial in a frequency with autopilot off...I was hearing "glideslope" warnings! I really should have gone around or maybe said "UNABLE to switch frequencies, SHORT FINAL", but somehow managed to contact BUR approach, got cleared to land at 3 miles out, and land on a very short runway (~5000 feet).
I really like the feature on the EFB for the FBW A320 where it shows active VATSIM frequencies nearby, and you can instantly tune your radio to it.
Important: READ what is written at the very top of the SID Charts ...There are important numbered instructions like if you have to stay on TWR Freq or not ..EHAM, EDDH and a lot of others require to change from TWR to APP by yourself e.g after passing 2000 ft ... EHAM has its own page for Depature Instructions (10-3) .....And being on ground at major Airports: Dont just LOOK on the Ground Charts... READ the Instructions on the GEN, DEP, ARR Pages ... what is the way how they handle Push-Back, Taxiing e.g.... :) But, nicely done at all !
Thanks, appreciate the info. Didn’t realise that!
the voice is so blur how can you get all that
I am new to this whole Flight Sim and just curious where the weather is generated and is it across the board for everyone?
It has live weather, for example we were landing in very heavy winds in the uk last night due to the storm
Wait, is someone playing the game as air traffic control!?
Yep. VATSIM is an add on for flight sims where you have human air traffic controllers. If they aren't online, the pilots communicate with each other via a Unicom frequency, though it can get messy!
@@AirNOTT My adhd can't handle this, I would be lost with this game before even turning it on 😂
This was real flying when you have to do everything alone..
Great flight, I enjoyed the whole journey..🛫✈️🛬
Thanks! I maybe need to get some physical radio controls that I can use!
Mixing it up with all the pretend pilots on vatsim. It's only a game folks. A computer or console game.