5D classic and 10D sensor technology shames mirrorless! - The long story
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- This extended session is about my experience comparing my classic sensor cameras to my mirrorless - not just the specs, but my actual user experience!
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Thank you for the video.
I have decided to pay no heed to the anarchy and disturbances created by mirrorless promotions. Just go about my hobby of creating images happily with my 1DIV, 5D, 5DII, 5DIII and 7D. Bought them all cheap exploiting the ignorance of the gear freaks. I could not have imagined affording them all within very short time had there been no chaos in the market. What a mega grand-feast!
You have just listed my favorite cameras! I am surprised how little attention is to the 7D today, and how extremely low its prices are. What a magnificent camera. I agree with you, this chasing of the latest technology is just a band-aid for people who do not use their cameras, or just failed to learn to use them, and have the mistaken idea that when the camera calculates the exposure values for you, and gives a high resolution image that will be a substitute for having the ability to capture the moment. In my experience the more I let the camera decide for me, the worse my photography got. Sure, lot more "keepers", but all of those "perfect" shots are just getting the "delete" treatment as they say nothing. Going back to the 5D, 10D, my photography / ability to capture the moment has started to improve leaps and bounds. ;
@@ShutterNChill spot on bro. Gear freaks are bound to miss the joy of photograply.
In order to augment the joy of organic photography; I have added one full manual focus lens to my arsenal. Using it is real fun.
Great content, you seem to explain things in a way that matters. Bravo.
Thank you Daniel!
Canon 5D is a Legend Camera, forever! I'm owner also 1Ds and 5D.
If the EOS R has the same sensor as the 5D, then the R is the supreme EOS
As a user of the 5D classic, I agree with you the high iso (3200) is perfectly fine and retains lots of details. With modern editing software it cleans very well. I think that iso rating of 5Dc is more accurate than modern software that pretend. high iso performance beyond 3200/6400 iso. With 5Dc despite the noise, I don't have that "mushyness" of some modern sensor with fake noise reduction applied in the camera.
Except for concert photography or indoor sport, the 5Dc is giving superb rendering. Also due to a weeker AA filter the sharpness is great despite the 12mp.
I think the modern sensors rendering of high ISO is not like a photo anymore, but a very highly processed image that reminds me more of a generated image than a photograph taken by a camera. As the DxO mark sensor measurements confirm that there is not enough data at high ISO for the modern sensors, and the signal-to-noise levels are minimal, no wonder that the way to produce useful high ISO images is through heavy signal processing - which effectively produces a generated, heavily processed image, even at the RAW level. Sadly, RAW form modern cameras is not the pure sensor read-out anymore, but the signal processed product. Base ISO - no extra signal processing, but with higher ISOs the signal processing takes over the actual tonal range / color information / signal and detail content.
What about the D30? it is only 3mp
Interesting video! If the 10D is equivalent to the original 5D in terms of sensor and colour rendition, what APS-C Canon camera is equivalent to the 5D MKII? I'm assuming the 50D has the 5D MKII's sensor, albeit in APS-C form? Is this correct?
Not much right. Canon 20d and 30d have almost identifical pixel size circa 6,4 micron, like a 5d mkII
@@aaronzipfer6031 That's odd, as I've tested the 20D, and the images are much more comparable to the 5D MK1 than the mkii in terms if colour and overall look
@@TMxtt Yeah, 5D-1 and 20d have Digic-II processor on board. And colors and picture accent can be similar. But the size of pixels - architekture of sensors (,technic process) similar to 5D mkII.
Synchronicity!
No Janusz, przez ciebie żona mnie z domu wyrzuci z tymi aparatami😁
:) :) :) Same thing is happening to me!
For you classic Canon folks...do a websearch for Magic Lantern. You're welcome.
So far the Magic Lantern site & all who posted on it said that it does not work on the classic. Was there a change on it? Would be a pretty far stretch as the 5D mk I does not have video capability. Would be nice touch though.
I have a 40D. Dreamy pics that I cant get with my M50
Thank you! I have the exact same feeling with the 5D/10D/20D vs the M50.
@@ShutterNChill They say that the 40D at times even beats 5D classic in image quality
this is a very complicated subject that you can not just make generalizations about it . One of the most important things is the focusing system and camera like the D500 for SLR and Z9 for mirrorless will blow the Canon out of the water ...... there were also big issues with dynamic range being poor on the older Canon . The older Canon don't have eye focus so if you are using a wide f stop good luck nailing focus and if you miss focus on the eye forget about posting the image on line as you will be lambasted. There are other issues with older cameras such as how they reproduce magenta and purples - I can tell you - not well at all. The real test is printing images. There are issues with high iso images being noisy on old sensors . While I am not a mirrorless fanboy I can tell you the new Nikon Z f1.8 primes will blow the lens you are using out of the water. The big advantage is not the old sensor but the used large telephoto lenes that can be bought for great prices now that folks went mirrorless. There are better older cameras if you want a unique look such as the Sigma Foveon SD15 where you really are getting something unique.
one last thing - in the words of a professional photographer I know " test charts are for amateurs - pros never worry about them " .
Staring at charts isn't going to get you anywhere. Although I've never used a 5Dc, I have used the 5Dii, and it stinks compared to more modern cameras in every regard. Even the 5Div beats it in dynamic range, color reproduction and low light performance, at least in my experience of owning these cameras. And modern mirrorless is even further beyond it.
Actually, modern full-frame cameras haven't significantly improved in color performance or dynamic range. If you're relying heavily on those few extra stops of dynamic range, you might be approaching your photography the wrong way.
What has improved are the video capabilities and focus tracking. In other areas, the changes aren't as dramatic.
For a real upgrade in photography, medium format cameras are the way to go.
@@bozoc2572 i can‘t speak to color, as I haven‘t tested that as much, but in terms of dynamic range there is well over a stop difference between the 5dii and the 5div, and another stop to the r5. Sensors have improved massively.
Also it‘s not that I need extra dynamic range, but rather it occasionally lets me get photos that I couldn‘t get with less.
Overall I never really liked the image of the 5dii. it looks weirdly muddy, as if you get noise in bright daylight
The 5Dii was not very good. It focused on video over stills quality. Why even comment if you haven’t used the original 5D? Why?
@@kevrosas1 what are you smoking? can i have some?