Oscar Producer: “Physically Removing Smith Was The Only Option Left”
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Jim Gratton - Well DAMN! Don’t know if you saw it this morning but it looks like all the details are now out about what happened at the Oscars. So apparently the Academy did tell Smith to leave and he refused, so the Academy was looking to physically remove him and have him arrested but Chris Rock saved him because he didn’t want a bad situation to become worse. My respect for Rock has gone up a lot! What do you think of this timeline and should Smith now be banned from the Oscars forever?
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Wow! knowing this now, Chris showed tremendous amount of class. The irony of Chis Rock the comedian has more class than anyone in the event while Will the superstar showed none is mind boggling to me. Mad respect for Chris Rock
Who knows Chris Rock turns out to be such a good person..he is probably best person to handle situation..
A SAG suspension would hurt more than an Academy suspension
If you actually watch the interview with the producer, Chris Rock didn’t want to press charges and then he left the Oscar’s. But then Will Smith was going to get removed right before the best actor award and the producer stopped it because he thought Chris Rock wouldn’t want that. The media is making it seem that Chris Rock stopped Will Smith from being removed from the Oscar’s.
Looks like Will Smith is getting blacklisted from Hollywood because Netflix and Sony just dropped the ball on his projects Bad Boys 4 and Fast and Loose
I would of loved to have seen the Cops drag Will Smith Out...
still not worse then John Wayne and Clint did to a woman because she asked for fair treatment of Native Americans at the academy awards
He should also keep the Oscar's award as a reminder of his bad action. That alone will be painful.
The Academy Is not just trying to deal with Will Smith but they are also trying to prevent anything like this from ever happening again and they need to send a message
Academy should ban him and SAG should susspend him for 1-3 years. This was an assault on work place at SAG sanctioned event.
I dont believe that they ask him to leave.
I agree with John. This new update makes will look even worse.
Joe Rogan had the best metaphor… he said “what will did was the equivalent of being at dinner with all your friends and family then just pulling your pants down and taking a huge steaming shit on the dinner table forcing everyone to just sit there and look at it. It’s ugly and it stinks.”
They absolutely should have dragged Will Smith off the stage. Doesn't matter that it was during the Oscars. Celebrities aren't above the law. They should be treated just like everybody else.
The way they handled it just showcased another example of the rich and famous being above the law.
We should listen to Rock and Rock did not want that. Period
I honestly think if at least one security guard had come on to the stage as Smith was approaching that he would have backed off. I think the producers deliberately chose not to have security respond. They wanted it to play out, out for better ratings.
@@ikexbankai Completely disagree. If it was private sure but he assaulted someone in public. And not just public but on TV. That sort of behavior shouldn’t be accepted.
@@brandonreed09 That could be the case but I don’t we’ll ever know if it was. The movie industry is known for wanting to keep sketchy shit under the rug lol.
Does not make sense because Chris Rock is not in charge of the Oscars. The producer makes the call and the Academy makes the call. I don’t care what Chris Rock wants, Smith should have been removed.
The problem wasn’t him winning the award. The problem was him being allowed to accept the award. They should’ve mailed that thing to him after he was removed.
I saw this evening that Will Smith resigned from the Academy and wrote a mea culpa and acceptance of any further action the board of governors deems as appropriate. I feel this is the best course of action he could have done in order to avoid permanent expulsion. However the board still needs to act and provide real consequences. I am curious as to your opinions though.
Straight up entitlement from Smith. Karen level 10
If you have to ask someone to leave your house and they won't. Then you MUST physically remove them. Otherwise how can you really say it is 'your' house.
As for 'defending his wife', it doesn't work like that.
If you have to be TOLD, then your not a 'defender' your just a well trained dog who can be told when, and who, to bite.
If Mel Gibson went on an antisemitic rant while accepting an Oscar I guarantee his Oscar would be taken from him.
Not if he slapped someone then Mel can still keep it
All I know is Will Smith laughed at the joke. Him walking up and slapping Chris Rock wasn't out of some blind rage to defend his wife. So unless he wasn't listening properly, he did it sober. And Jim Carrey might be right. Something going on in Will's life might have made him decide he has to man up in the worse way possible.
Because Will Smith is possessed by this Evil Demon named Jada
That academy award, that statue on his mantle will now serve as a symbol of his misery. Every time he looks at that thing it’s going to be the exclamation point at the end of the story of his life.
I honestly don't believe he cares,he accepted the award and said "I hope the academy has me back here "With a Laugh "
I will not be surprised if Jada and Will seperate after this. I feel she is a narcissist and he has been trying for years and years to be what she needs, and it's just not healthy.
She's the worst. Reminds me of my ex. Definitely a narcissist
She is alot of the relationship and motivation guides agree You can't deny by the further back things happening the letter to her deceased ex by her daughter , the reel round table about her " entanglement " (affair) , they way she gaslight her other family members like with the slap , weird buddy relationship with her daughter if will was to straighten up and say enough is enough and boot her we wouldn't blame him only those individuals still stuck in a toxic relationship would detract.
@Dragma Apatre i also think, that Will would struggle alone. Much like Kanye.
It has come out from Chris rock's camp that Packard was lying and Chris never said that. The only thing he said was" I do not want to press chargers and just want to leave". Also the Oscar's said that "William Packard does not speak for us'
@@liammackay2061 TMZ
Chris Rocks team just said that's a lie
Man my respect of Chris Rock and the Academy has really jumped up...specially Rocks. Dudes a stand up guy
Is SAG going to do something?
Didn’t he assault someone at work?
Admittedly this is speculation but what you mean is, "his publicist put out a well written apology."
Still better than no apology
@@christophermarabella5683 I think if it was the publicist then it's likely it wasn't genuine. Bcuz Will wouldn't leave apparently, then he didn't apologize to Chris during his acceptance speech. So this, to me screams, his publicist a day or two later said "Will you have to send an apology out publicly to Chris to make this at least a little better." Which isn't genuine. Based on the events, I'm having a hard time picturing Will sitting at home and being like, "man I really feel bad about what I did, let me make a public apology that the world can see instead of calling Chris man to man to apologize."
It was a fun scandal… but fleeting. It feels cringe to still be talking about this.
It appears the entire story is now clear. That said, the Academy has no other choice but to expel Smith. I applaud Chris Rock for taking the high ground and trying to defuse the situation and not make it worse. If you want to feel bad for someone, feel bad about every Oscar winner after the incident!
I hear Will resigned from the Academy and that just means he can't vote anymore. But he can still be nominated.
Which one is it John, "Not throwing him out forever" or "reasonable to expelling him permanently" ??
It was pretty clear, he wouldn't personally throw him out forever, but feels it would be a reasonable reaction from the academy if they did.
He just resigned from the academy
He knew he was getting booted and decided to take the decision out of the Academy's hands.
Yup it was his only option to salvage his pride... they probably told him they were going to boot him.
I'm sure he's hoping this will go away from people's consciousness if he just resigns and then people wont have to speculate about his punishment.
@@kristinab3838 they can still punish him. You don't have to be an Academy member to receive an Oscar. They can suspend Smith's awards consideration. They can also ban him from th event next year and perhaps for more years.
@@A.Zivkovic yup
Will Smith quit Academy before they kicked him out
The Oscars are forever tainted. I think ABC should tell the Academy: “you’re out.” They did not have to invite Smith onstage. They could have skipped over that award and done it after the telecast.
He's since resigned from the academy
Am I the only one that thinks Ray doesn’t know what he’s talking about…..like ever? Mainly about movies
He should definitely be behind the camera. I don’t think he seems comfortable on screen. Maybe I’m wrong? I dunno!
@@CraigCairney83 I mean the fact that he apparently can’t even stay awake during movies, like why would I ever want to hear his advice or thoughts lol
Ray represents the general moviegoer so he's valuable and plus he's fun.
I prefer him over the blonde girl. Did you see her yesterday throwing a fit because John didnt agree with her???
@@360.Tapestry I don’t agree that he’s a general movie fan I’m sorry. Every time he talks it absolutely doesn’t add value for me. I’m watching JCS for movie talk, information, etc. “General” movie goers don’t even watch these type of shows to begin with anyway. And I’m not attacking Ray by no means so there’s no need for you to try to say I don’t add value to movies input when clearly the video subject isn’t even about movies, it’s about what happened in Oscar night. Ray seems like a good dude, but he was obviously hired because he’s Ann’s brother. But to me personally, I don’t want movie info from him. That’s my opinion. I love the cinema and the cinema experience. But if you like him that’s fine. But he definitely needs to be behind the scene for me and clearly other people agree.
Not gonna lie… would’ve loved to have seen Chris Rock and Will Smith present an award together next year as a redemption arc. But yeah, looks like that’s not gonna be a possibility with the inevitable suspension.
Redemption arc 💀💀 life a movie
@@slade6959 isn’t it?
We need to see Will Smith publicly apologize to Chris (big one because it was assault). Then Chris MAYBE apologize to Jada (nothing big, but worthy of an ill taste joke).
1. California/LAPD should still arrest and press charges because its the law. He'd just pay a fine but it shows that its not allowed legally.
2. Oscars should suspend him 5 years, obviously he keeps his win.
3. SAG should suspend him 6 months
That’s not how pressing charges work.
@@Thanosdidtherighthing the state can still choose to press charges, that is how it works.
@@78konjo The state pressing charges over a slap is about as likely as the state pressing charges of middle school and high school bullies.
he should now kept his Oscars, but he shouldnt get that Oscar after the punch and before the award. Nobody did anything really.
How about the Oscars ban him for life and the SAG for 5 years?
They should not have been relied on Chris Rock to make the last Decision. It was the Home of the academy. The Academy should have been the Only one that had the right to remove Will Smith. AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
I don't believe it wouldn't make a bad situation ...worse. First, the Academy should not have ask him to leave, there were tux clothed police officers there and could've stood by and expel him out! The Academy didn't have security to react immediately?!? FAILURE!! Smith was 'asked' to leave and didn't. FAILURE!!! This behavior grossly and forever tainted the prestige of the Oscar. The action must swift and severe by the Academy!!!! And yes his award should be taken and banned for life, to ensure that no one will EVER even think of doing this action EVER AGAIN!!!! And I bet no one will risk there career. Nope!!! Suck it up Smith...Jada thought is funny after he hit him and your son cruelly states, "that's what we do". Why are you guys slip sliding? I think you're wrong about Smith being not that bad of a guy...WRONG!! That apology wasn't written by Smith it was written by his PR FIRM!! GEEZZ PEOPLE!!
Bro, Rock is transcending the "higher human being". Mad respect.
I've kinda been done with Will Smith for awhile for many reasons but this kinda cements it.
Great Career for the most part though
Chris Rock is a pro
He resigned from the Academy... this way he gets to come back and maybe kill the story. He was probably told that the Academy was going to expel him... which meant he wouldn't be ever be considered/vote/attend etc.
"I don't want him to be a bad boy for life". Kriss Carr is so damn funny. I love this lady.
I agree with John, given the information, and that Smith chose to stay, and I believe knowingly refused to leave as it would cause more drama, I would expel him from the academy. Back to Johns story, It's grandma's 90 birthday and the only way to get him to leave is to have the police drag him away ruining grandmas birthday. F that. Smith weaponized his fame and took the party hostage. I think the academy will do 5-10 years. Enough to show precedence, but not too little to make it worth someone else doing. From what John said the Academy said to Rock and how Rock answered, they were fully ready to have Smith expelled and arrested that night. And oddly if he was they could have gone leniently on him as he was already "punished". But as things are, he has gotten off Scott free, and they can't allow that. In some ways it would have been better for him to be escorted out and arrested for the academy as then they wouldn't have to respond as harshly.
Of course, now Smith resigned from academy
It's so funny Chris Rock says he took a punch from Mohammed Ali and Anthony Mackie said the exact same thing years back when he encountered Will Smith since he was his idle saying "I took a punch from Mohammed Ali" lol. He seriously has some issues and I also feel Jada Pinkett is responsible for that where she seems to be controlling Will Smith's emotions where she is kind of the puppet master being selfish and not giving support to her husband who was nominated and won the Oscar fair and square because of the hard work he put into playing Richard Williams.
If i saw my husband walking up to the stage id grab his hand and ask what he was doing. That was a long walk.
I cant get past the fact his before oscar posts had captions of "time to create chaos"
@@nomesy81 My personal opinion Jada Pinkett Smith is toxic. The focus should've have been on Will Smith and because of her now he has been ridiculed for years not because of what he did but what Jada did. She is the one controlling his emotions not him controlling his own emotions. She is very selfish and completely turned the spotlight on herself using Will Smith as a tool to do her bidding.
@@nomesy81 The whole thing is Will Smith should not let his wife's emotions dictate his actions.
@@Brook11223 oh i agree
Since Will Smith resigned from the academy.
Hopefully this shit can go away.
Academy can take it from here and we can move on.
It wasn't will Smith write that apologize. It was his agent wrote that
Hamilton musical: You ever see a man ruin his own life?!
JADA SHOULD STAY AWAY
Jada is destroying will Smith and will Smith can't walk away
If I was an Academy board member I'd vote for no suspension, but I really like Rob's idea. Now obviously Will's resigned from the Academy, which I believe makes this whole question null and void. Does his resignation mean that he's now ineligible for a nomination at the Academy Awards?
Random thought: The bigger problem (for the Oscars) is that this is the only time that the public has continuously talked about anything connected to the show after the following Monday in DECADES...
It is amazing how many excuses people are making for him, including here. "Love him anyway." "Will continue to give him money." Etc.
2-4 Year Suspension
Although he did resign, an indefinite suspension would be the best move. They could re-evaluate many years down the road.
His resignation just means he can’t vote for future award considerations. The Academy still needs to decide if they want to ban him from future award shows and from being nominated for future movies. It’s like he just turned in a gym membership card.
At first I thought 6 months to year. Now hearing the actual timeline I think more of 1-3 years suspended. The real problem that I see is that the academy has sat on their hands in previous issues. If they haven’t lowered the boom on Weinstein, Polanski, and others than you can only go so far with this situation. Taking a person’s Oscar award away from them should be a punishment they should invoke. They need to start with those two and move forward.
If he resigned, why is the academy continuing to investigate. Makes me wonder if taking the Oscar is still in play? I mean for example if I was voted employee of the year from leadership at my job and I slapped the hell out of someone minutes before at the award ceremony I don’t think I’m still getting the award. Lol. I just wonder if there is still more to this that we don’t know. The refusing to leave to me is damning and I totally agree that he held that show hostage. Originally I thought this was all the crap that Jada has put him through, but I’m starting to wonder if this is the two birds flocking together?
Next year, the host should enter the stage with a bunch of massive body guards around him/her and ask if anyone wants to try something. LOL! Would be a great opening joke and a way to break the ice.
Will just resigned from the academy.
Yes sir
Will Smith should have been remove and or arrested... regardless of Rocks generosity or the look... or how uncomfortable it may have been for viewers..... Wrong is wrong, and this is blatantly wrong....
Give that damn Oscar back too. He does not deserve it. Publicly assaulting the host is egregious behavior.
It wasn't just one incident, it was the slap! wich by itself could beeing seen just as an akward bit, but then he started to angryly Yell and swear at Chris in live Tv, that is when everybody knew it was serious, and theeen that hipocrytical excuse of an acceptance speech
It should be an indefinite suspension with a minimum of 5 years.
Will's a person who could have eventually had the coveted EGOT. He's active and talented in so many aspects of entertainment. He tarnished his own talent and hard work. It would be very hard for the Oscars, Tonys, Emmys, Grammys to reward him again, especially in today's climate. This kind of disrespect towards colleagues and peers is unacceptable, no matter how much money or talent one possesses.
That man ain’t never winning a Tony 🤣 doesn’t have the discipline
Slapped away the little respect he still had left
I still respect Will Smith. I will Not be judging a man by one action in their whole over year 50s of life. I judge them by the type of person they are and their character. Will Smith has NEVER done anything like this before.
@@ikexbankai That's fair.
“He earned that Oscar fair and square” hahahahahahha ok.
We probably won't know until they come to a decision, but I really want to know what kind of rules the Academy has in their bylaws about someone causing an incident or causing harm to someone else at their show. At this point, I'll personally be surprised if they don't suspend him for at least 4-5 years after hearing that he refused to leave and will not be surprised if they expel him permanently.
Unapologetic Will Smith would be black listed from the business show already if it is under CCP rules.
And now Will Smith has been kicked from the Academy. Justice has been served
Will Smith may have won the battle, but Chris Rock won the war.
He still needs to man up and actually apologise to Chris Rock in person but apart from that I just hope the Academy don't view his resignation as a reason not to still go ahead with their own form of sanction, a lengthy ban should be handed down but I think a permanent explusion is going too far considering the far worse offenses some other members of the Academy have against their name and yet still remain members.
There’s nothing to wrap your heads around. It’s one guy assaulting another guy. What else needs to be understood. Rob is correct. The law doesn’t care who you are, what you do, where you’re at, how much money you have. They care if you broke the law lol. Seriously why are we still talking about it. Get rid of him.
Sadly, while LAW might not care, the PEOPLE responsible for enforcing the law have ALWAYS cared who you are, what you do, where you're at and how much money you have.
The Academy needs to set an example. Make it crystal clear that an incident like that can never happen again.
They should’ve let him go on stage to accept his Oscar and then while he’s on stage, have the police come and drag him out. 😮😮😮😮😮 THAT would’ve really been something
And reports are saying that Smith has resigned from the Academy. Multiple outlets are saying it so I don’t think it’s an April Fool’s joke. SMH
We spent a week on this we supposed to celebrate the other winners
Rob always speaks with such eloquence. Totally agree that we shouldn't normalize violence like that
I’m a person who is weak and tries to avoid conflict. I understand Chris Rock completely.
@@360.Tapestry And he would have had to deal with diehard Smith fans. But maybe it's not that he's business savvy, rather that he's an easygoing comedian. He can take things more lightly than the average person.
I disagree with “from bad to worse”
Its more like “from bad to right”
I think what I would do and what the academy will do are the same. 5-10 years suspension. It seems like a punishment fitting the crime. Expulsion is quite extreme in my opinion and unlikely.
Had I walked up on stage and slapped Chris security would have been all over me and I would have been dragged out of the building in handcuffs and arrested, so my question is simple....Who the hell is Will Smith to not be treated exactly the same. You say well, Chris didn't want that.......So now Chris Rock is making law enforcement decisions ? Fucking Hollywood, you can keep it.
Uhh he's a star? And Chris is the one that was assaulted so yeah the choice to arrest the guy was up to him
The only I possible price he might pay in the future…and I mean possible… Maybe… Might… Perhaps, is just a fall into obscurity.
Maybe 30 years from now people will ask “Will Smith…???
Isn’t that the guy that slapped another guy at the Oscars”???
Acting classes???? WTF? Are you April fooling???
Maybe Will Smith can do a class together with James Franco.
Man said he’s gonna keep watching his movies, but has he actually made a good film since Ali? I only remember After Nepotism, the crappy men in black sequels and the film where he dunked himself into a bath with a man of war
Cudos to Chris Rock, but I think the Academy should have had Smith removed.
WWE looks more realistic than the Will Smith and Chris Rock storyline of the slap in the face
Just saw online that Will Smith has resigned from the academy. That's all I heard. || In Australia.
It took a week of daily tidbits dropping for us to get the “full” story. Kinda suspicious. And what happened to the producers asking him to stay?
UGH! I just dont know what to believe now. I will just sit in my corner and see how things unfold. Fabricated or not. 🤣
Maybe they should ban him just from all Awards shows in the future.
cmon rey, give us a substantive take. lol
now it's come out that he was abusive to his castmate in ali. geez you guys really need to stop defending will smith.
He says he's still processing the incident so hopefully he and his lawyers are figuring things out
Academy didn't take back oscars from Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein...will Smith should keep his oscar too
Now that they asked him to leave but being a privilege as he thinks he is. Oscar should have remove him and drag him out with his refusal. I say SAG needs to suspend his membership. He’s a disgrace to all actors/academy member/SAG. Worse of all he damaged his community.
Lowkey would’ve been funny aff if he stayed and ended up losing, I lost respect for will smith tbh for defending a girl she admitted to cheating on him 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I can tell from being in a toxic relationship that she has manipulated that man to the point of not being able to trust his own thoughts and judgment. You can tell this because he was laughing before Jada gave him "the look"
If Donald Glover won an Oscar. He would
have the same career trajectory as Will Smith. An actor on a comdey show shout to COMMUNITY( Troy and Abed in the morning who became a rapper then would need the top actor in Hollywood.
You guys see that video of jada laughing after Chris rock said will smacked the shut outta me. So why make a big deal if this then? Let’s start looking at jada too now for resls