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The Incredible Higurashi Alternative Ending You Didn’t Know Existed: Miotsukushi hen

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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
  • A good deal of Higurashi fans know of the epilogue: Saikoroshi, but few know of Higurashi’s console-exclusive alternate ending, Miotsukushi: a full fledged chapter that is every bit as enthralling and poignant as Matsuribayashi.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    1:43 History and Relationship to Matsuribayashi
    5:06 Diving into the Episode
    13:30 Conclusion
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    Resources/Further Reading:
    Unofficial 07th mod to install and play Miotsukushi: 07th-mod.com/w...
    Miotsukushi, 07th Expansion Fandom Wiki: 07th-expansion...
    Rena-Rena Toshokan: The Hidden! All-Cast Review Session: 0707toshokan.w...
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    Credits for game footage:
    Miotsukushi: LAMBDADELTO:
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    Matsuribayashi and others: A Sea of Fragments
    / @aseaoffragments6548
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    Music:
    "Thanks" by dai
    PC ひぐらしのなく頃に解
    "Fearlessness" by dai
    PC ひぐらしのなく頃に解
    "Soul Scour" by dai
    PC ひぐらしのなく頃に解
    “Shadow (Kage/陰(かげ))” by dai
    PC ひぐらしのなく頃に解
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    #higurashi #higurashinokakukoroni #whentheycry #miotsukushi #matsuribayashi #alternativeending #ending #07thexpansion #visualnovel #vn

Komentáře • 73

  • @tigerfog_scypher
    @tigerfog_scypher Před 3 lety +41

    I played through all the chapters on PS2 and getting to Miotsukushi felt amazing. Things I love about it:
    -Rika telling dumping all the info onto Keiichi very early on and both working to prevent tragedies. That whole scene was cathartic.
    -Satoko coming to terms with her parents' death and the truth in this version is comforting (she realized they loved her, jumped for a hug, they were all going to fall, but the parents pushed her to safety and smiled knowing she will be safe)
    -Satoshi in the end
    -Characters in general remembering their mistakes in the past and doing the right thing.
    It's kinda weird... I grew accustomed to the PS2 version so much that even though the subsequent versions have more music tracks from the VN, I thought the PS2 version's limited music fit some scenes better (Rika info-dumping on Keiichi, Hanyuu's death).
    The PS2 seemed to have better timing and sound design anyways (The uso-da scene, the door chain scene).

  • @Porfonto
    @Porfonto Před 3 lety +62

    i remember back in the late 2000s and early 2010s when the only glimpse to miotsukushi was only through the matsuri and kizuna arcs' opening. pv videos were hard to find (for a grade schooler with low knowledge of kanji) and cgs were few and far between if you dont know where to look. the fact that we have a complete unofficial translation and just so many content exclusive to the console readily available for the fans make me pretty envious at the wealth of content the higurashi fandom has nowadays (saikoroshi wasnt even fully translated back then!) and im happy that they'll be able to choose how much of higurashi's available content they want to experience compared to the limited experience of the eight core arcs i had back then

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +7

      The 07th mod team deserve all the kudos in the world for bringing this content to the West.

    • @Porfonto
      @Porfonto Před 3 lety +5

      @@WarudoChaos im surprised that theyre rarely (if ever?) acknowledged by the official team unlike witch hunt tbh, since i feel like working with them and making their mod integrated officially in the steam (and modern console) ports might help make the ryukishi's writings more easily accessible to the non-jp speaking fandom

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +4

      @@Porfonto I agree it's a tragedy that they don't collab in an official capacity like Witch Hunt, but I think the reason for that is probably licensing related. The official MangaGamer Higurashi release comprises only the PC content since that is owned by 07th Expansion. The console ports are owned by Alchemist so the rights to those were likely not included in the deal. IF they ever did get officially licensed, my guess is that 07th Mod would be asked to collab.

  • @LAMBDADELTO
    @LAMBDADELTO Před 3 lety +23

    Awesome video and thank you so much for using my gameplays :)

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +7

      As always, thank you for uploading!

  • @yussuf55
    @yussuf55 Před 3 lety +35

    Really loved Miotsukushi on my first read earlier with year through the PS2 version. Personally, I prefer it matsuribayashi due to it having one of my actual favourites scenes in the series with Rika and Keiichi as well as their dynamic being amazing. I really loved the structure here plus the ending was perfect
    Great video though, need more people to read this

  • @sh-zs4oy
    @sh-zs4oy Před 2 lety +5

    Your level of comprehension on higurashi and complex introspection on the series are nuts. You are insanely good, and should have more subs.

  • @DragoonBB
    @DragoonBB Před 3 lety +17

    Strange how you say they may add elements from Miotsukushi hen later but they did at least a little in Gou. As Keiichi acts very similar to how he runs the Club as leader in both. With each of them wanting to make it so anyone can join the club if they want to.

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +3

      tbf Keiichi taking over for Mion is such a no-brainer that I dont know if it's fair to say it was "inspired" by Miotsukushi - it's more that's just the natural progression in any timeline where Rika defeats Takano.

    • @DragoonBB
      @DragoonBB Před 3 lety +1

      @@WarudoChaos I wasn't referring to him taking over per say just how he runs the club in both is the same. As in Gou he points out that their are usually a lot more people club members joining in. Which was the main difference they showed in Miotsukushi between Mion and Keiichi.

    • @alternateperson6600
      @alternateperson6600 Před 5 měsíci

      @@DragoonBB Keiichi was going to succeed as club leader eventually anyway, something that was already stated by the end of Matsuribayashi.

  • @ReekuKun
    @ReekuKun Před 3 lety +11

    ty for the high quality content

  • @DerpsterIV
    @DerpsterIV Před rokem +8

    I loved Miotsukushi. I don't know if this is the right term but the victory in Matsuribayashi felt a little... easy mode? Unearned? In Miotsukushi it just felt like she worked her butt off to get what she wanted, didn't feel like she got lucky at all.

  • @sirrealgaming6913
    @sirrealgaming6913 Před 3 lety +7

    I enjoy your word soup from time to time

  • @mehlover
    @mehlover Před 3 lety +3

    Ooh this was interesting and fun to learn about Higurashi, just when I thought I knew everything about it there's always more to explore! Thanks for making this

  • @user-yf8bz9ly4c
    @user-yf8bz9ly4c Před 3 lety +93

    in this arc, the characters still defeated Takano not through their own efforts, but through the power of friendship and an incomprehensible miracle. At the moment of Takano's" battle " with Rika, I wanted to stop reading the chapter. The best additional chapter, in my opinion, is Yoigoshi or all the chapters about Mini. Sorry for my bad English

    • @crystalpath4264
      @crystalpath4264 Před 3 lety +18

      You can't deny it had a lot of great moments where Kei displayed his greatness as a leader and solved the club's problems, also his endearing interactions with Mion and Rika satisfied the romantic wishes of the fans

    • @DivineXPotato
      @DivineXPotato Před 3 lety +4

      your English is perfectly fine if not better then a lot of English native speakers, don't be sorry lol

    • @Zeronichi
      @Zeronichi Před 3 lety +17

      Kinda disagree with you there.
      Matsu-hen feels like everything works out for the group right off the bat. Miotsu-hen feels like the complete opposite of what you just say.

    • @user-yf8bz9ly4c
      @user-yf8bz9ly4c Před 3 lety +5

      Keichi and Rika would have lost the first time they met Takano at the shrine. Takano understood their plan from the very beginning and took countermeasures, but because of an unknown miracle, Keichi simply became immortal. I can also note, that Yamainu is completely useless in both Matsu-hen and Miotsu-hen

    • @Auditor1337
      @Auditor1337 Před 3 lety +10

      Way better than home alone in the mountain

  • @kingmaster04
    @kingmaster04 Před 3 lety +30

    I actually play Miotsukushi through the Switch port (Higurashi Hou), and Takano's backstory is actually separate from Matsuribayashi, being instead, the prologue of the "Fragment World" segment of the game, which contains Fragment Spinning, Matsuribayashi, Miotsukushi (Omote and Ura), Saikoroshi, Kotohogushi, and Hajisarashi.
    As such, it is why it is not told anywhere in Miotsukushi, because they treat it as you already know about it (the same apply to Matsuribayashi).

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 3 lety +1

      SWITCH PORT?!
      O_o

    • @kingmaster04
      @kingmaster04 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Ramsey276one Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Hou (ひぐらしのなく頃に奉)
      Released on Nintendo Switch and later PS4.
      Contain all console arcs that has been ever released and 3 more extra arcs (Outbreak, Outbreak -Kamikashimashi-, and Hinamizawa Bus Stop).
      There's going to be a remaster of it soon, too.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 3 lety

      @@kingmaster04 YAY!

    • @kilicool64
      @kilicool64 Před 2 lety

      That's actually not right. In the original PS2 version of Higurashi, Matsuribayashi's prologue is nowhere to be found at all. That arc was still in development at the time, so it couldn't be included, which is the main reason why Miotsukushi exists to begin with. If you read that version, you really will miss out on most of its information. The append disc adds a heavily censored version of the first part of the prologue (up to the point where you'd be delving into the fragments), but it's only unlocked after finishing Miotsukushi.
      Only later console ports cover the entire prologue (albeit with plenty of censorship) and require reading it before both Matsuribayashi and Miotsukushi.

  • @elementalarson5423
    @elementalarson5423 Před 2 lety +4

    Every copy of Higurashi is personalized

  • @diegosanchez3820
    @diegosanchez3820 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow great video, this chapter sounds crazy. I'm definitely reading it

  • @Tompsf1
    @Tompsf1 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you!

  • @Az_o_o
    @Az_o_o Před 3 lety +1

    This comment is to etch in time that i was an honest sub of a fellow when they cry supremacist youtuber before he blew up to millions of subs
    Keep at it mate. Your videos are breath taking

  • @lazergator1016
    @lazergator1016 Před 3 lety +3

    Would be cool if this arc is animated

  • @blurqeqoherds
    @blurqeqoherds Před rokem +3

    Mixed feelings on Miotsukushi.
    Not being written by RK07, and having this very optimistic tone, it feels a bit like a tacked-on happy ending for the sake of fan service rather than a true conclusion to the 7 previous parts.
    Then again Matsuribayashi, which was written by RK07, also feels like an overly positive fan service fake ending tacked on to make people happy.
    Since both endings feel like fan fiction rather than something written by the same author who began the series, its difficult to choose one over the other. Ultimately, the best tjing to do might simply be to read Matsuri as far as Connecting Fragments and then stop.

  • @rustygx4867
    @rustygx4867 Před 3 lety +2

    15:30 Irie (Style: Hamon User)

  • @GatoEpico
    @GatoEpico Před 3 lety +2

    i dont know man , seeing the gou /sotsu stuff it feels like the villain of the story chased after different rika loopers before the goddess made a rule to chase the same rika with certain conditions.
    Probably there is a rika that reached the matsuri ending and another rika that reached the miotsukushi ending.
    The villain in gou is shown to have seen minagoroshi and two version of matsuribayashi with minor changes.
    I remember pirating matsuri kakera asobi for the PS2 but it was in japanese , there was no way for me to understand , i made it to watanagashi searching for the kanjis and meanings on the net then i gave up.

  • @Ramsey276one
    @Ramsey276one Před 3 lety +7

    The long tale from the cicadas...
    The spider chess seen by the seagulls...
    The Risk game of Ciconia...
    Witches have such... entertainment
    I must not be late to the GRADUATION...
    -Quantum Croupier

  • @riku_dola8079
    @riku_dola8079 Před 3 lety +14

    I enjoyed Miotsukushi as there were some developments with Keiichi and Mion relationship

  • @22dolls19
    @22dolls19 Před 3 lety +1

    I wonder what would've happen if Rika lost in here too. If I'm correct, then the power Lack of Hanyuu was stated at the end of Chp. 7, which most likely explains why she couldn't enter at all

  • @BuruKyu
    @BuruKyu Před rokem +1

    por supuesto que lo conozco si es mi favorito y mi headcanon

  • @user-sg8ci5fr9n
    @user-sg8ci5fr9n Před 3 lety +16

    The first half of Miotsukushi was great, but as soon as Teppei appeared, I liked this chapter less and less, it felt like it goes to extremes more and more, for example Teppei is now a junkie and Takano looks like a maniac, the battle with Yamainu felt boring and fight beetwen Takano and Rika was laughable to me, so I would prefer a mix of Miotsukushi and Matsuribayashi as the ending of the series.

  • @Auditor1337
    @Auditor1337 Před 3 lety +30

    Too bad it isn't canon, I still liked it, way better that matsuribayashi, the video was ok.

    • @kyrohowe3156
      @kyrohowe3156 Před 3 lety +1

      I wish it was. Could've been a great conclusion

  • @xynium.
    @xynium. Před 3 lety +7

    Jokes on you I knew about it and read both Omote and Matsuri

  • @Zeronichi
    @Zeronichi Před 3 lety +9

    Love this alt chapter. However that Plot twist at the end added in Omote version was just bad, imo. I would stick to the original PS2 version.
    So a good way to experience this is Matsu-hen first

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +2

      I personally don't think the twist is "bad' per se, but I would say it's a clunky and unnecessary addition that just feels like a twist for its own sake without any greater purpose. That said, for those who have worked their way through the Advanced Story, I did greatly enjoy the minor changes, most significantly, Tomoe's cameo. It was so fulfilling to see her finally appear in the main storyline. The PS2 port is probably fine for those who don't care about the Advanced Story/Kotohogushi, but for those who want to consume all the Higurashi content, I think Omote is more comprehensive.

  • @sandersGG
    @sandersGG Před 2 lety

    If rika happy I’m happy

  • @jejedomangue
    @jejedomangue Před 5 měsíci

    my problem with matsuribayashi is because the whole situation is so simply and childishly resolved that it made me completely frustrated.

  • @derrickboyd9225
    @derrickboyd9225 Před rokem

    It could have been in the anime they could have made a manga all of it I just wish that higurashi alternative ending could have been in the anime is a ova or in the manga nevertheless I really wish he could have had made an anime and manga version of this I wish I could hit the dinner original series a long time ago whoever read this please ask one of the makers of this to make an anime are Manga of this please do I really like to see the alternate ending into an anime or a manga like I say please read this and let them know that they should make an anime of this and manga version of this is well ☯️🙏😌🙏☯️

  • @Euphrynichus
    @Euphrynichus Před 3 lety +39

    Sotsu will probably have the same ending as the original higurashi but Satoko instead

    • @IchibanOjousama
      @IchibanOjousama Před 3 lety +7

      finish your sentence

    • @Euphrynichus
      @Euphrynichus Před 3 lety +13

      @@IchibanOjousama no

    • @backseatgaming9087
      @backseatgaming9087 Před 3 lety +7

      With the exception being that satoko will go through with her self-sacrifice and officially become a witch unlike takano who could not bring herself to sacrifice herself and fulfill Lamdadelta's expectations.

    • @silver1350
      @silver1350 Před 3 lety +4

      Do you think Ryukishi could decide to adapt it as the final part of Sotsu? Always with variations like the other arcs

    • @kyrohowe3156
      @kyrohowe3156 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Euphrynichus lol

  • @juegawomandownunder
    @juegawomandownunder Před 3 lety +1

  • @bowserjr9056
    @bowserjr9056 Před 2 lety

    Ok so did they get a good or ending or bad ending?

  • @BakedBanana
    @BakedBanana Před 3 lety

    oh?

  • @shanablaze7517
    @shanablaze7517 Před 3 lety

    Alternative arc of Matsuribayashi hen but still ended bad ending.

  • @backseatgaming9087
    @backseatgaming9087 Před 3 lety +10

    I am probably in the minority but i prefer the original Matsuribayashi over this alternate ending. Miotsukushi in my opinion feels more like fanservice rather than a "serious" entry into the higurashi series.

  • @MrConredsX
    @MrConredsX Před 3 lety +3

    Just like Bleach, Naruto or Slayers or any long franchise i don't see any season or novel as ending until they confirm any ship of Keiichi

    • @vivvy_0
      @vivvy_0 Před 3 lety

      🙄

    • @xynium.
      @xynium. Před 3 lety +3

      Ryukishi07 said we can ship him with who we want to, although I notice that there is far more text in the canon arcs saying K1 likes Rena, more so loves her. In the first scene in the VN, K1 explicitly thinks "I loved you" while beating Rena's corpse with Satoshi's metal bat.
      In the non-canon arcs, including a lot of Miotsukushi, there's more stuff that's primarily K1 x Mion. Just take a look at the barbecue where people celebrate K1 becoming class president, and half (maybe even more than half) of the village coming because Shion tells everybody "Mion has found her special somebody".
      Edit: incase you don't know, k1 equals Kei (making the k sound) and ichi (meaning one)

  • @maxattacks25
    @maxattacks25 Před rokem

    I think the reason they don’t fully retell takano’s backstoty in this arc is because it is intended to be played by those who have already finished matsuribayashi. It’d feel a bit long-winded to tell that twice, unless they make some changes (which would further differentiate this arc from the main storyline.)

  • @IchibanOjousama
    @IchibanOjousama Před 3 lety +8

    You realize all these other arcs are fanmade

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +35

      You realize most JP fans of Higurashi were introduced to the VN through the numerous console ports so good luck arguing whether that A) is valid (it's not) B) even matters at all

    • @backseatgaming9087
      @backseatgaming9087 Před 3 lety +5

      @@WarudoChaos The console ports had little to no involvement from 7th expansion in its development which by definition means it is not canon

    • @WarudoChaos
      @WarudoChaos  Před 3 lety +23

      @@backseatgaming9087 they were all reviewed by Ryukishi07 and given his blessing. So canon or not, it ultimately doesn't matter because they're "official".