How to Use a Compact Tabletop Dough Sheeter

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

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  • @KristinFriedersdorf
    @KristinFriedersdorf Před rokem +4

    Great video! I received one as a gift and am now exploring videos about how other people are using them. Yours is the first one I came across when searching. Thanks for taking the time to make this!

  • @ChristineBartholomew1218
    @ChristineBartholomew1218 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for sharing. I love that it is hand-cranked instead of using electricity. I have been using my Kitchenaid mixer attachment but it's too narrow. I also used the dough with measuring sticks which worked well. However, I'm so loving that sheeter. I've always used plastic wrap to roll my dough so that I didn't have to use extra flour but I never thought of putting the dough with the plastic through my sheeter. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @TheCoolCookieKitchen
    @TheCoolCookieKitchen Před 3 lety +5

    I HATE flour mess. This was awesome info - even without the rolling machine.

  • @deanatriemer8480
    @deanatriemer8480 Před 3 lety +7

    This is awesome! I am transitioning from hobby baker to cottage food... then potentially to a commercial bakery paired with a brewery. I definitely will keep this in mind!

    • @lezules31
      @lezules31 Před 2 lety

      Did you purchase this? How has it been for you?

  • @pmaddox
    @pmaddox Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for taking your time out to show us how to use this...now I want one, just had back surgery and rolling gets to me, plus I like to make a lot of Dog cookies for all our neighbors when I can....again thank you for your post...and Peace to You and Yours..

  • @elisha5509
    @elisha5509 Před rokem +1

    Lisa, I'm new to your channel. And I'm new to cookie decorating. I've only been doing it about a year. Thank you for sharing this. This would've been helpful for me on Valentines Day. It takes so much time to roll the dough out and get it right. I'm going to look into purchasing one of these. Thank you so much. ☺️

  • @kimberlyk7081
    @kimberlyk7081 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you. I was just telling my husband yesterday that I was not rolling dough anymore, and getting one. Since having surgery on my hands I can't roll all that dough without it hurting me.

    • @paradoxskye4031
      @paradoxskye4031 Před 3 lety

      but you still need to spin the handle, maybe find a motorized one?

  • @heatherfredrickson1201
    @heatherfredrickson1201 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great demonstration 👏👏😊

  • @user-zw3hs9ry1b
    @user-zw3hs9ry1b Před 7 měsíci

    I have this but couldn't use it because instructions are not written in the English language.Thank you .

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 7 měsíci

      I put it together without - it’s not too bad. Give it a try. You can also take a photo of the directions and send it through google translate on your phone, does a great job.

  • @delindaschmidt1875
    @delindaschmidt1875 Před rokem +3

    I am going to order this machine. I think I will try using 2 silicone mats instead of the plastic wrap. I will put my dough between the two silicone mats and put it through the sheeter. Wish me luck :)

  • @anchykolaci3663
    @anchykolaci3663 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great machine!❤

  • @kde5fan737
    @kde5fan737 Před 3 lety +1

    Add a little motor and a switch to that and you'll be cookin in no time!!

  • @addisong5816
    @addisong5816 Před 3 lety +4

    Omg that’s so cool!

  • @peggyfindley1843
    @peggyfindley1843 Před 3 lety +5

    After hand-rolling 400 cookies yesterday, I really want to order one of these. I rarely ever chill my dough, though. You mentioned it’s easier to roll when it’s slightly chilled dough. How does it work for dough straight out of the mixer? I let mine rest for a bit so it firms up some, but it’s definitely not as firm as chilled dough. I’d be willing to start chilling my dough again if that’s what it takes, though. I’m totally over rolling it by hand. Thanks so much for this video. I definitely want to order one, I just want to make sure it’ll work for me before I invest!

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +4

      It works great with unchilled dough-- but I personally hate the floppiness of it, so I don't prefer that way! So you can definitely do that.

    • @lynettealonso8753
      @lynettealonso8753 Před 3 lety

      @@BorderlandsBakery how much it cost for dough sheeter?

  • @tobe1359
    @tobe1359 Před 2 lety +1

    it will be nice if the machine have some type of wait in the bottom so it won't move when using the rolls, or maybe a rubber suction cups under the machine too.

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety +2

      It comes with clamps. I just choose not to use them. I usually roll with a wet towel underneath to secure.

  • @icowrich
    @icowrich Před 4 měsíci

    What if I got this and rolled dough from a tin of Hungry Jack biscuits for making Cornish pasties?

  • @countesseilene4003
    @countesseilene4003 Před 3 lety +3

    would have been nice to see how it perform with freshly made dough, after all we mostly use fresh dough, but then maybe not mostly

  • @jenwight4694
    @jenwight4694 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you for sharing this! Have you experimented using the roller without plastic wrap? is the crank hard to turn at all? Thanks so much!

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +3

      I don't like to roll dough naked... ever lol. It's not hard at all if your dough is room temp or slightly cold (don't let it be straight outta the fridge cold)

  • @eranyafoodmachine
    @eranyafoodmachine Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome machine

  • @atlant2566
    @atlant2566 Před 2 lety

    it is a cost lower so if you are on budget its a steal and if you are not doing a lot of dough but who has 15K for a professional unit to do couple cookies right thank you

  • @xFailage
    @xFailage Před rokem +1

    Cool and informational demo. How does the plastic wrap not rip or snag inside the blade?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před rokem

      They are rollers (no sharpe edges), and I definitely make an effort to keep my plastic wrap loose to prevent it from snagging :)

  • @thewolfinsheepsclothing5439

    Amazing

  • @lindahickok5536
    @lindahickok5536 Před 2 lety

    Thank you,

  • @cristy_yang
    @cristy_yang Před 3 lety +2

    Yas!!!! I need this! Hehe.

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +2

      It's pricey ish but worth it. commercial sheeters are thousands of dollars... so I guess this is a good alternative :)

  • @darrelmyer935
    @darrelmyer935 Před rokem

    We kept finding we needed a folding table. This is so easy to store. czcams.com/users/postUgkxStL0QRChBju4aQlnTrRgBZvafFog0KU3 Opening and closing is easy as well. It has a great handle for carrying around the house. Its pretty lightweight and slides around easy. We bought it for our daughter’s first sleepover. Breakfast was a blur - but 12 7-8 year olds fit at the table with room to spare. We used it at thanksgiving and 6 adults fit comfortably on each side plus 2 on either end for a total of 8. Super easy to clean up afterwards as well.

  • @enasmohamedabdelnaby8841

    Can you please from where can i get one

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před rokem

      blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/

  • @TheSkittlemonkey
    @TheSkittlemonkey Před 3 lety +2

    But I love your video! Especially the dehydrator one! Thank you for taking that much time to teach us about it. Oh and on subject of that, do you leave the dehydrator door open? After watching your video, I used your Iink to buy the Cosoroi. I saw someone else said to always leave the door open when using it??? Do you?

  • @christinac3159
    @christinac3159 Před 3 lety +2

    can this be used as a fondant sheeter?

  • @gcsusetyo
    @gcsusetyo Před rokem +1

    Can I use this pasta maker to make pies?

  • @irvinetitley2381
    @irvinetitley2381 Před měsícem +1

    Can it take masa dough

  • @katecollins5672
    @katecollins5672 Před 2 lety +1

    Could you use clamps to keep the machine secure on the table?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety +1

      Sure can- they come with clamps. When I roll, I put a wet towel underneath and it doesn't budge :)

  • @TheSkittlemonkey
    @TheSkittlemonkey Před 3 lety +3

    Ok, so I have the same sheeter and I find it takes so much longer to use it then to just roll it by hand. And I have the problem with it moving around on the counter. I got it for fondant originally but it’s almost impossible to use for fondant without two people. It’s so hard to feed it and catch it and crank it at the same time. Dough is easier but just seems like it takes more time then rolling super fast, you really find it noticeably faster? I really regret buying it. And it’s so heavy

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +4

      I love the shit out of this sheeter. hahah. It has reduced my rolling time by 40%!! I put a wet towel under it if it moves when you spin the handle, and find that you need to get your dough to a manageable width before feeding it through to allow it to catch and prevent the rollers from spinning aimlessly :)

    • @CHFMRC
      @CHFMRC Před rokem

      If you want to sell yours, i'll buy.

  • @gildamunoz5306
    @gildamunoz5306 Před 3 lety +1

    can you use this for fruit pie crusts measuring 8-9 inch diameter?

  • @agmalivert7696
    @agmalivert7696 Před rokem +1

    Bonjour, Combien ça coûte ?. Je vous attends la réponse Svp merci

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před rokem

      Details here: blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/

  • @CCJohannaJames
    @CCJohannaJames Před 3 lety +1

    Your Nails are everything. Are they press ons?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +1

      YES! I prefer to get them done but sometimes the press ons work OK-- I have an affiliate link for my nails in the description box :)

  • @wylieecoyote
    @wylieecoyote Před 3 lety +6

    Wow.. cost is too much for a manual roller. It will be trivial to add a motor to it. Buy an inexpensive drill with speed adjustment from a local store or Harbor Freight, roughly $20. Remove the crank (important - you don't want it swinging) and put the post the crank uses into the drill like a drill bit and tighten. Adjust the variable speed drill to the slowest speed and pull the trigger. You have just made an electric roller at a fraction of the cost of an electric model, and with far more speed control. Some models have a locking trigger if you do big jobs. A cordless would help if there is no outlet, but charging needs to be done and they cost more. You are welcome!
    Notes:
    Remember that a drill can spin fast in high speed mode, so adjust speed to the lowest and SLOWLY pull the trigger because a variable speed starts off very slow and speeds up as you pull the trigger. Be careful until you are used to it.
    Make sure the drill has variable speed and the trigger is variable speed.
    Measure the post the crank has and make sure the drill can open big enough. The most common sizes are 1/2" and 3/8". If it is too big for the drill jaw opening, use a "hole saw" that is a little bigger than the crank and attach it to create a smaller bit size that will fit your drill.
    Here is a 3/8" for $17.99:
    www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-drill-60614.html
    Here is the hole saw if your crank is too big for the drill jaws. Put the proper size saw on the crank and either screw it on or duct tape it. The drill will attach to the hole saw shaft and you are in business:
    www.harborfreight.com/34-in-5-in-carbon-steel-hole-saw-set-18-pc-68115.html

  • @t.s8113
    @t.s8113 Před 3 lety +2

    Can the dough sheeter be used for fondant? Thank you for your video.

  • @gabrielncali8999
    @gabrielncali8999 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video once again! They never fail! I’ve looked at these; although I am only a home baker-hobbist cookier. QUESTION: do you know the measurement of the thickness of your dough?

  • @salinaesmail5553
    @salinaesmail5553 Před měsícem

    I could not find link to the roller

  • @malousampang3698
    @malousampang3698 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, can this type of machine roll a steep dough like the pie dough? (Apple pie)

  • @tierra5020
    @tierra5020 Před 3 lety +1

    Can I use fondant with this machine? Thanks for the video!

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +1

      It works GREAT for fondant. This was originally made for Pasta but I had trouble finding rollers that rolled THICK cookie dough (up to 12mm), so this was really perfect for me ;)

  • @andrespablos4093
    @andrespablos4093 Před 3 lety +2

    Could this be used to roll puff pastry?

  • @ivanciapara.8066
    @ivanciapara.8066 Před 3 lety

    Hermosa, hermosa, hermosa.

  • @salinaesmail5553
    @salinaesmail5553 Před měsícem

    What brand is this roller I want to purchase thanks

  • @sylvianepelissier694
    @sylvianepelissier694 Před měsícem

    Bjr
    La machine affine la pate jusqu'à 4mm?
    Merci
    Sylviane

  • @shebakesitluv9832
    @shebakesitluv9832 Před 2 lety +1

    Is it wide enough for regular size pie crust?

  • @kellytrout3707
    @kellytrout3707 Před 3 lety +2

    Can you say how long it takes you to roll the dough for about 120 cookies (My usual batch size is 120 cookies - 8lbs flour, 4 lbs butter, etc.) I usually get about (5) 12"x18" sheets of dough per batch and wonder if this would make for smaller sheets overall. I'm so on the fence about this purchase but hate rolling dough even with an awesome rolling pin! Wondering how much faster it would be...

    • @kellytrout3707
      @kellytrout3707 Před 3 lety

      PS - Thank you for the video!!!! :)

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety

      ​@@kellytrout3707 I bake one tray at a time because that's what works for me-- it used to take the whole 10 min of baking the previous tray for me to roll and cut my dough for the next tray, now that time has reduced by about 40%. It's a huge difference in time. I have way more trays prepped now than I can bake.

    • @kellytrout3707
      @kellytrout3707 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BorderlandsBakery Thank you so much for the information! It really is all about what works for each individual isn't it? :) I so appreciate the video and the response. Wishing you all the best during this busy time of year in a most unusual year!

  • @megthunell774
    @megthunell774 Před 3 lety +7

    Do you ever use this for pastry or croissants? I have one and I'm curious about using it for that

    • @LoopArtist
      @LoopArtist Před 3 lety +1

      Curious about that too! I'm about to buy one just for croissants but I'm not sure if it would work properly. Do you have any updates on it?

    • @kazuyauchihaaa1616
      @kazuyauchihaaa1616 Před 3 lety +2

      Hello,. am actually looking for 1,. and gonna use it for croissant , vienoisseries nad puff pastries,. it works well, no worries ,. just when the dough coming through the machine , do not let it go directly on the table, instead roll in rolling pin for better space ,.

  • @keanuvillanueva8128
    @keanuvillanueva8128 Před 3 lety +1

    Could this be used for croissant lamination?

  • @florachavez1111
    @florachavez1111 Před 2 lety +1

    Were can I get this machine

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety

      Linked here blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/

  • @chachaman4980
    @chachaman4980 Před 2 lety +1

    Doesn’t this device have a clamp to fix it to the table?
    Would like to have seen you roll a ‘paton’ into butter laminated dough for croissants - without the plastic wrap.

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety

      Yes but I work in different areas and have no issues with movement with a damp towel on the bottom

  • @yinglong9845
    @yinglong9845 Před 3 lety +1

    cool

  • @graywaygirls
    @graywaygirls Před 2 lety +1

    Are you still using this and would you still recommend?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety +1

      I absolutely am - anytime I do over 2 doz I pull this thing out, saves me so much time. I definitely still recommend.

    • @graywaygirls
      @graywaygirls Před 2 lety

      @@BorderlandsBakery thank you 😊

  • @ivonnebogen8404
    @ivonnebogen8404 Před 3 lety +1

    Have you used the roller for croissants? Thank you!

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +2

      I personally have not- but having made croissants by hand in the past, it would work great.

  • @AereForst
    @AereForst Před 3 měsíci

    $600 for a manual dough sheeter is crazy. Get a Marcato Atlas pasta machine instead. Not as wide but Italian made and under $100

  • @EsteeDarla
    @EsteeDarla Před rokem +1

    how thin can you get the dough?

  • @garysorley69
    @garysorley69 Před 2 lety +1

    Will this machine handle pie crust?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 2 lety

      Absolutely!

    • @garysorley69
      @garysorley69 Před 2 lety

      TY. I’ll definitely be investing in this machine. I make around 200 pies a week and this looks like a lifesaver. TY for the video as well.

    • @garysorley69
      @garysorley69 Před rokem

      I finally pulled the trigger. I got mine this week. What a difference. My roll time went from 7 to 8 hours to 2 hours. I’ll never go back to hand roll again.

    • @hopedamogbe9241
      @hopedamogbe9241 Před 4 měsíci

      I’m considering getting this for pie dough, is it still working great for you?

  • @nataliyajohnson6309
    @nataliyajohnson6309 Před 3 lety

    Where can I buy one please ?

  • @ckotler
    @ckotler Před 2 lety

    What brand and model is it?

  • @ptrckaubin
    @ptrckaubin Před 2 lety

    Where can I get the dough Roller?

  • @abdoidrissi5879
    @abdoidrissi5879 Před 2 lety

    I want this machine how can I contact you

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack Před 3 lety +2

    I wish this unit would clamp to a tabletop. Seeing it slide around makes me hesitate to invest in it.

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +4

      It comes with a clamp. I don't use it because I don't find it worth the trouble because I move it around so much :)

    • @elainebmack
      @elainebmack Před 3 lety +1

      @@BorderlandsBakery . Ok. I see that it weighs 60 lbs, so I don't think I'll be slinging it around too much. Lol! Thank you.

    • @thewolfinsheepsclothing5439
      @thewolfinsheepsclothing5439 Před 3 lety +1

      Its amazing and it's makes a consistent product..

  • @LiveSushiTV
    @LiveSushiTV Před 2 lety

    What brand and model #. ????

  • @My4girlsandeli
    @My4girlsandeli Před 3 lety

    What thickness do you usually roll your sugar cookies?

  • @unverunver524
    @unverunver524 Před 2 lety

    Slm ben bir tane almak istiyorum nasil nerden alabilirim adres verebilirmisiniz

  • @ponderosalr6234
    @ponderosalr6234 Před 3 lety +1

    What is the inside width of the sheeter?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety

      Hi, the exact dimensions are in the product description: amzn.to/3cOqcsj

    • @Thebaroquebaker
      @Thebaroquebaker Před 3 lety

      Thank you for sharing! I was looking into a sheeter and this seems perfect!

  • @mickeytwister1182
    @mickeytwister1182 Před 3 lety +1

    I don’t understand you paid $600.00 on Amazon and I see it’s marked $699.00! Can you explain that?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +2

      Well, this is a pretty normal thing. People change prices all the time 🤷🏻‍♀️- i cant control it 😩

    • @mickeytwister1182
      @mickeytwister1182 Před 3 lety

      @@BorderlandsBakery Okay, to bad it out of stock I hope I can find it.

    • @thewolfinsheepsclothing5439
      @thewolfinsheepsclothing5439 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mickeytwister1182 do you want her to do your shopping for you ?? They raised the price because she helped them sell out ! Anything else you want to complain about!! She isn't in charge of stocking either! ITS COMMENTS NOT COMPLAINTS ...

  • @aszava8091
    @aszava8091 Před 3 lety

    Can you use this machine for making phyllo dough for baklava/strudel? info provided by supplier re min. thickness seems a bit contradictory (1mm/0.5 mm/0mm)Thks in advance!

    • @asderven
      @asderven Před 3 lety

      I am interested in knowing this as well.

  • @maxq1681
    @maxq1681 Před rokem

    How much?

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před rokem

      It depends, i think amazon changes the price. blog.borderlandsbakery.com/cookie-decorating-resources/how-to-use-a-tabletop-dough-sheeter-for-cut-out-cookies/

  • @maxq1681
    @maxq1681 Před rokem

    Can i uesd for donut

  • @loseweightfast5
    @loseweightfast5 Před 2 lety

    Can this be used for fondant?

  • @PhilVerryChannel
    @PhilVerryChannel Před 3 lety

    Mounting to the table makes all the difference, just saying.

  • @adamsomoshalewayetunde3782

    Pls Aw much is it

  • @shadygaming6523
    @shadygaming6523 Před 3 lety +1

    200 cookies is to send out and family? i make a whole lot more just to eat.

  • @AlanEdlund
    @AlanEdlund Před rokem

    plastic wrap isn't recyclable, unfortunately. You can put it in the recycle, but then it gets thrown away at the recycle facility.

  • @tddtv
    @tddtv Před 11 měsíci +1

    lol rinse off the plastic wrap. Just use new wrap...that's ridiculous.

    • @amroproperties4151
      @amroproperties4151 Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe she is conscious of not producing too much of plastic waste

  • @tutsecret499
    @tutsecret499 Před 2 lety

    It's great for mini pies, turn over pastries. It's better electric. You need to save your hands. Stay away from the manual wooden roller, it's can cause disability on your hands. Save your hands. I make 2 turn overs for breakfast and take forever to use the wooden roller to make very thin the turn over. Turn over with cheese, or hearts of palm, ground meat. Hummm

  • @dennissaner2151
    @dennissaner2151 Před 3 lety

    ?????? You paid how much for a hand-crank sheeter?! LMAO!

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety +2

      Better than a tabletop sheeter for 3-10K. And for the time savings and physical strain reduced? Worth it alone. In comparison, this is a great option but sure, it's not for everyone.

  • @marcelae9798
    @marcelae9798 Před 3 lety +1

    DON'T BUY IT, if you want it for a big amount of fresh dough or fondant, you will regret it. The feeding tray is too small, so you need an extra person to help you roll out the dough. It's a waste of time and money. Until they fix that, it's not worthy, unless you need it for a small amount of hard dough like the one in the video.

    • @BorderlandsBakery
      @BorderlandsBakery  Před 3 lety

      It depends on your needs, doesn't it? It works great for a small production shop, but this is only an alternative to a big dough roller. This is an inbetween solution for rolling by hand vs. rolling with a few thousand dollar machine. It has saved my hundreds of hours of rolling and repetitive movement/strain on my traps, so I'll continue to recommend it for specific purposes. If you've seen my IG stories, you'll see I use quite a long strip of dough in it :)

    • @shebakesitluv9832
      @shebakesitluv9832 Před 2 lety

      So basically it's useless for rolling regular size pie crust?

    • @josefmengele5340
      @josefmengele5340 Před rokem +1

      I bought for 1000€ a second hand professional top table rolling machine and can do croissants, Danish, puff pastry with very hard and cold dough.
      For 600$ you better put a bit of extra money and get a proper machine.

  • @henryettacollins9095
    @henryettacollins9095 Před 3 lety

    Omg get to it skip skip skip 2 hours half through nothing....next!

  • @EdgarAlejandre-lr4rm
    @EdgarAlejandre-lr4rm Před rokem

    I love how glock makes its own bb guns and how they make them look so real czcams.com/users/postUgkxnX9wE_Q8zvF75Y5iWzTU3Q4FlrtyGApQ , the only thing is that the slide doesn't move back. The sights and the body structure is so similar to a real handgun, fits in my hand perfectly but I actually ordered it with the 40 pack of Co2 tanks and they never arrived even though it said that they handed It to me. Was not able to test the accuracy since I didn't get everything I purchased which is frustrating and that's the whole reason why I got the bundle so it arrives together. So the Co2 tank happens to be a third party so it makes no sense to put it in the bundle if it doesn't get shipped at the same time, the BB gun arrived first then the Co2 tanks were supposed to arrive someday later but didn't, which doesn't make sense. I recommend just ordering the gun itself so you don't get the same issue I ran into plus there's no option for a refund. How stupid.