Ep 45 | Easter - Mary Magdalene with Mandy Green, Come Follow Me 2020 (Mar 30-April 12)
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Special guest, Mandy Green, helps unveil Mary Magdalene by discussing scripture, traditions, and extra-biblical texts.
00:00 - Mythbusting. Mary Magdalene may be the most underrated and misunderstood players in human history.
03:07 - Sin means to miss the mark.
12:16 - Was she named after a fishing village? Magdalene is a tower. For Μαγαδάν: www.blueletterbible.org/lang/...
16:00 - Seven levels of celestial heavens.
25:30 - Mary stays at the cross.
30:19 - Nephi and his Asherah. Read Dan Peterson’s article here: www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/...
31:08 - The Savior is the ultimate proponent of women.
32:23 - John 20, resurrection morning.
34:04 - Reading Song of Solomon in a new way.
39:57 - Why does Christ reference himself as the bridegroom?
47:58 - We should turn around and face The Gardener.
50:49 - Traditions about what happened to Mary after Christ is crucified.
53:08 - Symbols of Mary in our modern fairytales.
1:01:30 - Reading the vision from The Gospel of the Beloved Companion.
1:05:19 - Ladies, write yourself into this text.
1:15:28 - The return of the bride heals the land.
1:16:44 - Men and women are intended to be equal partners.
1:19:41 - Mary is unmoved, unflinching, and courageous.
Mandy Green’s website: www.mandybrookegreen.com/
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I’m listening to this walking on a treadmill briskly at full incline, wearing a sweatshirt, springtime in Arizona, I got chills multiple times!! Especially when she mentioned the 7 levels as opposed to 7 devils. Woman are put on pedestals for good reason, queens, goddesses but veiled and not written about to keep sacred. I needed this, it paints mothers, daughters and especially wives in a new light. Righteous men always revere women especially their wives, treat them as equal, there’s no king without a queen. You truly are the towers in our lives.
While on my mission many years ago, our district had a lesson with a teacher of institute or seminary teacher. I can’t remember but I always loved what he taught us about Mary. He in fact believed that she was the Savior’s wife. She was the first one that he appeared to, she went to embrace him and you just didn’t do that within that culture. She helped prepare his body for burial, so she wasn’t just a follower allowed to do that. He even suggested that the miracle of turning water to wine at the wedding was in fact His own wedding. Why would his mother come to Him about the wine. I thoroughly believe what he was saying. It makes absolute sense to me. The Savior had to be married to be perfected.
I have always believed that Mary would be the Saviours wife . If it did not take place in this life it would take place later in Gods time.
In my prayer last night I asked H F for ways to help me to learn more about the valiant beautiful women of the scriptures. This morning when I started my scripture study I found quite quickly this pod cast. 🙏🏻
This confirms what I have always believed. If for no other reason than the celestial kingdoms is for families-He HAS to be married.
Years ago, I had a friend who was a rabbi. He believed Jesus was married. The reason was because all rabbis must be married and Jesus was called rabbi.
I appreciate Mandy's approach...we really do not know for sure on many things, but there are all kinds of traditions that are fun to examine and look into. History is like this: messy, with many uncertain pieces. But it has so many beautiful angles to think about.
@6:26 -" this will light a fire in you" ... YES this lit a complete blaze in me last year. THANK YOU 🔥
I have always felt the same way. I am so grateful for you taking this time to share your knowledge and experience in studying.
Love all your podcasts! But THIS ONE is my favorite! I've now listened 3x. I bought the books. I wasn't too go on the tour @MandyBrookeGreen! My heart was not the only thing burning but my entire soul! I have known this truth for 33 years and you have expanded & expounded it! Thank you so much! ❤️🌹
Thank you Mandy & Mike for this wonderful podcast. I loved how you enlightened me on "who the true Mary Magdalene" is - who she was and who she will be in the Eternal Plan of our lives. So good!!!! I loved every moment of learning about her. ❤❤❤
Mandy was a lot of fun to interview.
This was life changing! Couldn’t believe it! Thank you for all the preparation you have done to bring this knowledge to light.
This was absolutely mind blowing. I loved it! I've always believed Christ must have been married. So insightful and well researched. Thank you!
Also as you were talking about the Disney stories I thought of the new Aladdin movie and Jasmine actually songs a song where she says "I won't be silenced"
This was absolutely fascinating! I look forward to listening again and pouring over the show notes!!
Loved it! Amazing podcast
Mind blown!.....and then mind blown again, and again, and again! That last quote really rocked me to my core. I could feel so much love from the Savior towards Mary Magdalene. I have four daughters and named my second, Magdalena, in honor of Mary Magdalene. I have so much amazing content to share with her now about her name's sake!
I stand all amazed! Thank you❤
I love studying Mary Magdalene. Recently I studied a connection between Mary and the Mona Lisa. There is a documentary that shows an original painting detected underneath the Mona Lisa. It’s believed to be possibly be the Virgin Mary but I believe it might actually be Mary Magdalene. I was so fascinated by what I have learned that I was going to make a video about it. Here’s a few of the many interesting things I connected while researching this. I’ll also paste a link to the documentary about the hidden painting under the Mona Lisa.
“Mona” in Italian is short for the name Simon. Also short form of Madonna “my lady”. In Irish it means noble good. In Greek it means one. derived from God's adjective "Meuona" from ancient Persian,which means who exists forever. In Hebrew it means pomegranate. In old English it means “moon”. Moons of course are always connected to women (there is a lot of symbolism in Mona meaning moon. The pomegranate symbolised fertility in Ancient Greece and Rome. It had a strong association to Aphrodite, the Greek goddess of love, as well as Hera, the Greek goddess of marriage and childbirth. In some Abrahamic legends, it was a pomegranate tree that was the Forbidden Fruit in the Garden of Eden that made Adam and Eve fall from innocence.
“Lisa” means “God is my oath”. “Devoted to God”. Short for Elizabeth. Elizabeth refers to the Lily. The Lily is connected to Christ and Mary Magdalene.
Now Leonardo carried the Mona Lisa painting everywhere he went. Why? Because it was important to him. Possibly scared? The original portrait shows the woman is wearing a veil with 12 Pearl hair pins holding it in place. I’ll stop there but I found so much that reminds of what I read in Vern Swanson’s book when it first came out. Fascinating stuff!
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I just listened to this for the second time and appreciate it so much. Thank you for the time it has taken to research Mary and for sharing it here. ♥️
Probably the most thrilling Podcast I have ever listened to. Many thanks.
Is there anyway that you can add the show notes to this podcast? Love it!
@@bdsccs have you tried going to the website and looked for this episode. That is normally where the show notes are
Ditto!
Wow!! This is just outstanding and truly beautiful!! Thank you so much for having COURAGE to shed light on incorrect traditions that have lead us astray! It is time for WOMEN!! AMAZING!
Mind blown 🤯!
Thank you for this! I have long thought of Mary Magdalen as the Savior's wife, for the reasons you have stated. I don't have a degree but have spent 38 years studying the life of Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ.I spent many hours in libraries and also buying books. I'm now gonna have to buy more! My testimony is that if Jesus had to come to earth and be our exemplar in all things, marriage is one of those things. I believe the scriptures are silent about His Private life because it's a sacred thing, as it should be. My first indication that Mary was something more to Jesus, for me, was the fact that He appears to her first, after the Resurrection. What man would NOT appear to his wife after such an horrendous ordeal? Either his wife or his mother. That thought lead me on a quest for answers. I came to realize yes, she was His wife and I rejoice in it. Now I'm old, and not an Accredited scholar, so all my research is just a benefit to me, but I'm glad it's being discussed openly now! Thanks again and now I've got more reading to do!
I love Mandy Green.
Mandy Green is legit! So true!
I have been waiting for a discussion like this. I have read some of these texts and pondered a quote by Brigham Young who referred to Mary as Christs wife. Thank you for this deep and thoughtful study.
This is wonderful! It’s one of life’s great gifts to hear truth proclaimed by others that the spirit has revealed to you already. Thank.
Spectacular and beautiful. Cannot get enough of this discussion. Thank you!
I believe what you’ve said about Mary. So beautiful. I’ve loved and been moved by this broadcast more than once. I’ve been annoyed by the way the series, The Chosen, has portrayed Mary. I haven’t been able to get past that yet. I know everyone loves the series so please don’t school me. Funny thing is after watching this the first time last year, I was spending an afternoon on the Family Tree app and one line went back to Joseph and Mary! I’d love to think it is accurate.
Oh my goodness! Me as well!! The rest seems ok, so far, but please .. 🤯
I don't like the way Mary is portrayed in The Chosen either. I know they are trying to make it relatable in giving the character problems but I still don't like Mary's portrayel
A line going back to Mary and Joseph, that is amazing! I have believed fora long time they were married!:)
This is really blowing my mind! I never heard this before but have always pictured her as being faithful.
Thank you for putting this information out there! I love you, I love Mary Magdalene, and I love the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...
Oh my goodness I’ve been thinking of these things for a while !!! I thought I was the only one speculating!
Wonderful
This was a great podcast. I don’t know about reading to much into the Song of Songs though because of what JS translation says on it.
I've listened to this multiple times over the years and every time I feel the spirit testify of truth and I absolutely love it. Thank you
Me too.
This is really beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for clarifying some beautiful information. You can tell your heart is into it as well as it’s been a life study! Thank you
Thank you for this. I have had a love for Mary Magdalene and it has now been supported. She was a beautiful woman.
What an awesome thought 💭 to begin my studies on! Thank you 😊
so enlightening and beautiful---thank you!
Absolutely amazing topic.
Listening to this gave me a renewed desire to read and study scripture and especially Nibley
Wow! Thanks for sharing what you have learned. It only makes total sense and I’m ready for more!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for opening my eyes. 🙏
Spectacular! I was taught correctly, it took myself a long time to come back. Thank you all! All Prayers Matter. ❤
My name is Serena. Pray often, and always believe!
Loving this! Absolutely fascinating!!
Thank you, probably my favourite so far! Happy Easter from Australia 🌅
Awesome! Thank you!
Beautiful!
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Such beautiful truths!! Being taught this by the spirit you added a second witness of truth for me. Thank you!!!
In the gnostic account of Pistis Sofia you get a sense of the different levels too and how prominent Mary is with her interaction with Jesus.
I need to hear and study this again and again take notes and follow the references. Thank you!
I loved this. Thank you!
This is beautiful. There are many great women in the scriptures that get passed by , from Eve on. Women that have made hard discussions to move along Gods work. Elizabeth, Ruth, Rachael etc.
Amazing, I am so grateful for you
I can’t believe I almost missed this! There were so many great resources for Easter and I feasted.
I believe our Mother in Heaven was eliminated for too long and it is finally acceptable in society to say God might be a woman. Yup! We’re a Royal Family.
I'm sorry, but God is not a woman. Unless you are hinting Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother are one.
While our families aren't perfect, we can perfect our love for others until it becomes a constant, unchanging, no-matter-what kind of love.
Tamara W. Runia
VERSE OF THE DAY ~ s.
Mind blowing!😮
Very thought provoking! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
❤❤❤ Love this so much. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
Love, love, Love
This is really fun to listen to. You have some interesting theories. Because of my own personal revelation and a sacred experience I know for surety that the wife of Jesus was not a redhead. Remember that all these things you discuss are theories based on as much understanding as you can possibly put together, but they are in the end just theories. I have a feeling that God has so much more yet to reveal to us. There is so much that we do not yet understand. Most of us don't even have the tools necessary to understand everything.
Very interesting to know this woman
That was totally amazing, it doesn’t get much better. Thank you.
This is a brilliant discussion! I'm so excited to know more. I think many revelations will come in regards to women and how we are tied to female divinity.
I just found this podcast. Fascinating subject well presented. My dad was a gospel doctrine teacher for 30 years. I remember a book on our shelves titled "Jesus Was Married". I inherited many of his books but haven't thought about it for years. Not sure I have it, but this podcast sure makes me want to investigate it! I know my dad believed. It makes sense that our ultimate exemplar would comply with the same laws we have. Just saying. 😊
Many things do lead to that Jesus was married to Mary m . Apostle James E talmage said that Jesus was married to. David o McKay says that she was the person who came to Jesus and washed his feet and wiped them with her. Tears and her hair. The one with many sins . The one possessed with devils . Then we also have an apostle who said Jesus Christ had the burden of loneliness because he was not married . Our current presidency says we do not know .
Great content
When you mentioned the word gardener, I immediately thought Well heavens sake Jesus is the gardener of his Vineyard right?
I’m just hearing this and WOW! I too was taught that the Song of Solomon was something to just skip over.... hmm interesting.
We might do some things with this text when we get to the Old Testament. This book is riddled with temple imagery, from a certain point of view.
That would be great, since it seems so many of us have not had that insight and opportunity to explore for this temple connections!
How could one so high fall? Pride. Just plain pride!
@13:25 Mary the Great!
Thank you so much.
Some events that just bring tears to my eyes and silence to my ears.
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This is interesting, I can see this coming back to us, through the gentiles of the UK. Fairness of the keltics, came to join us in the great valley
Joseph Smith makes it clear in John 11 in the footnotes that Mary of Bethany is Mary, the Magdalene. She is LaZarus sister and the one who anointed Jesus.
Mary Magdalene was a red head Celtic.. that is amazing news.
This reminds me of my studies into my mom's Scandinavian red headed roots from Denmark genealogy.
Danes took part in the founding of Ireland, England, America, Russia.. etc.
Can you guy's please let me know your thoughts on the rumors that Norse history is tied in with the Pleiades and the Bulls Eye of the constillation where the Vikings get the Horns from and is that the Polar star is all our LDS temples? This would make perfect sense to have Christ and his family leading our church
Jerome was a saint. He grew up speeking Greek and Latin.
Jerome became a hermit in Jerusalem and studied Hebrew for 14 years.
He was a genius and a saint
(Gift of tongs?)
He was tasked to translate the scriptures. He had manuscripts that don't exist anymore.
What can I say..wow!
Thanks for listening
This is one of the most enlightening podcast episodes I've ever listened to! Some fascinating stuff. I happened to stumble across this looking for Easter episodes to listen to. Do you have any other episodes similar to this, diving into Temple imagery? I do listen to your weekly podcast, but just discovered it this year. Keep up the great work!
There are some podcasts that talk about that. Go to the website and look for extras or specials, including Book of Mormon podcasts. I don't remember which podcast numbers, but I have listened to them. They give references in the show notes that you can look at to dig deeper. It is pretty interesting.
When there is temple imagery, they always point it out. I've been listening for 3 years.
D&C quotes the Song of Songs phrase "fair as the moon...and terrible as an army with banners."
not equal 2 the Savior but a help meet 4 him. 1 of the 3 greatest women ever--Eve, Mary mother of Christ, Mary wife.
Mandy (or Mike! :) ) what is your favorite book for a beginner to learn about the Knights Templar?
Good question! I don’t know. I (Mike) remember liking “Born in Blood” by John Robinson, but it’s been a few years since I read that one. I’ve read a few but don’t remember the titles to the others, I’ll have to check my office and see what’s on the shelves.
In the end, it really doesn’t matter if she was a prostitute or not. We need to accept who she became, and accept the power of the atonement, and that it can, and will cleanse everyone, no matter how they sinned. Christ healed and forgave her, we need to love and accept her, even if she WAS a prostitute.
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Thank you for doing this. It's interesting that Disney is rapidly and rabidly destroying the fairy tales.
I (Mike) am so sad Disney is wrecking Star Wars… Episode 8 took Luke’s arc in the Hero’s journey and just destroyed it. But hopefully they will get better writers and a board that supports Lucas’ vision of the story of Star Wars.
What translation of the book of Enoch would you recommend reading?
So much of this extrabiblical literature is published and translated on the net for free. Check out sacred texts: www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/index.htm
Read the footnotes to Song of Solomon - The JST manuscript states that the Songs of Solomon are not inspired writings.
I have the book Dinesty of the holy grail....
I absolutely loved your podcast!! It was GREAT!! I do have one question though… I know that Mary was the only one who remained at the tomb … but wasn’t she accompanied by other women when she first went?
The different accounts portray differences among them. In these podcasts we generally avoid making dogmatic statements as to which account is “right,” and in our reading of them, we may at times reflect our preferences. But yes, in some portrayals of Mary being at the tomb she is in the presence of others. John renders the specific account Mandy is working with, if my memory is correct.
Liked what I heard. Have you read " Whence came they" ?
I haven’t heard of this. I’ll have to look into it.
Can I get some clarification? Mary M is a different Mary from sibling of Martha and Lazarus???
It seems that Jesus, the apostles and the sisters traveling with them, including Mary M. where gathered together at the house of Lazarus prior to their entry into Jerusalem and the oil used by Mary M. was oil they had brought with them.
Check this out: rsc.byu.edu/vol-5-no-3-2004/sorting-out-seven-marys-new-testament
Good question bc I’m confused also. In the book the gospel of the beloved companion. It says several times Miriam, the beloved companion. Also Martha, the sister of the companion served them.
32:4 …I tell you this: when all have abandoned me,only she shall stand beside me like a tower. …she shall be known as Magdalah, for she shall be as a tower to my flock.
It seems to me that Mary Martha’s sister was then called Mary Mandela. according to this book. So I’m confused is seems Mandy saying Mary Magdalene is different then Mary, Martha’s sister.
Pulling threads or weaving an entire tapestry? What's that? the founding of a Magdalene Marianism?
Here's a thought to consider, is it possible that Mary Magdalene refers to a type of woman and not one specific woman? In other words Mary Magdalene is an identifier of several of the women who surrounded Christ and whom he was fond of and whom followed him
Wow.. . Try as l might to discount this l can't help but feel there is much to what's been shared. My simple logic is if it be true the Savior has descended thru all things (and l believe he has), so he can relate to all things mankind will ever experience and be able to succour us, such experience must include marriage. My lament is why hàs not The Church not accentuate Mary Magdalene's position and elevate her at least from that of a prostitute? Having said this something also tells me such knowledge is sacred and to be protected at all cost until the 2nd Coming. My mind is a whirl right now!
Also l live in UK Nottinghamshire, close to the legendary Robin Hood county - walks thru Sherwood Forest will NEVER be the same.
Insightful podcast, not sure how far to take it but Thank You.
The link to the books mentioned seems to be empty/broken? When can we access it?
It seems to be working
Show notes
www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/2023/12/easter-mary-magdalene-ep-45-show-notes/
Not sure if anyone mentioned this thought, but could it be possible that Mary was depicted as a devil woman in scripture as a protection for her?
JST---HOLD ME NOT. AN EMBRACE. wife to husband
I think the theory of Mary being the wife of Christ is well founded but I CANNOT wrap my head around them having children. If they did those children would be literal descents of God, like Christ and have power over death, etc. Christ couldn’t have had fully mortal children because he was not fully mortal. Am I missing something?
You might want to check what Joseph Smith stated on this topic.
I can't find the show notes for this one???
This episode basically has a list of books that Mandy cites... so many books, so little time. You can see the books she is citing here: www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/2020/04/27/podcast-episode-45-books/
@@talkingscripture The podcast amalgamated the most important info. I don't have the desire to read all those books when the podcast distilled the info so well. Having the bibliography is helpful for reference credibility but a bibliography doesn't substitute for the distillation. I can print out the podcast from CZcams but it would take hours to reformat it into something useful. Is it possible to just get a transcript of the podcast all formatted ?
The link to show notes yields a empty page…. I’d love to read and study if possible.
It seems to be working on our end. Try this: www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/2023/12/easter-mary-magdalene-ep-45-show-notes/
@@talkingscriptureI discovered it was just the youtube app on my cell phone. I went to the computer and got all the resources. Thanks for following up and the work you do. It's helped me understand more and enriched my testimony.
Even in the sequel to the Disney Little mermaid, Ariel and Prince Eric have a daughter as well 🤔 put in this context, is it a coincidence?
Neither the books list link nor the show notes link work. Nothing found.
The link is working on my end. I’m not sure why it’s not working for you. Try this:
www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/2023/12/easter-mary-magdalene-ep-45-show-notes/
song of Solomon not translated by Joseph
Bryce, Mary Magdalene keeps coming to light that Mary and Jesus had a chi
Llld what your take oxxs
No idea. Wouldn’t shake my faith either way. Right now, with no other evidence, I proceed believing that he was single during mortality. I know that someday, in order to enter into the highest degree of the celestial kingdom, he like everyone else has to enter into the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. I just don’t know when that did or will occur.
Elder Bruce R McConkie said that the Song of Solomon was not inspired scripture
It’s also quoted by the Lord in the Doctrine and Covenants, so I (Mike) have a nuanced view of the text and read it closely, as it is filled with temple imagery. But to each his own. Thanks for listening!
How do we get the show notes from Amazon?
Here is a link to the show notes. Books on Amazon are linked at the bottom of the show notes. www.ldsscriptureteachings.org/2020/04/08/ep-45-easter-mary-magdalene-come-follow-me-2020-mar-30-april-12-2/