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  • čas přidán 28. 03. 2012
  • Intercity Trains running between Leeds & Kings Cross in the Nineties.Taken from an Inside Story Documentary on a BBC Programme.

Komentáře • 86

  • @melbryan4725
    @melbryan4725 Před 11 lety +13

    I was a Steward/Chief Steward at this time out of Kings Cross and worked with most of this crew. It brings back some memories. On this day if it was the first day of "the wrong type of snow" I was stuck at Lincoln waiting the return Hull Executive, stuck there for hours in the snow..Oh happy days

    • @Trek001
      @Trek001 Před 5 lety +1

      Did the Hull Exec route via Lincoln in those days?

  • @dbfd2388
    @dbfd2388 Před 4 lety +10

    I'm so proud I had the opportunity to work with some of these people

  • @86501freightliner
    @86501freightliner Před 5 lety +14

    The passenger at 5:15, she has it SPOT ON!

    • @seansands424
      @seansands424 Před 2 lety +2

      That is good compared to today don't know what you got until it is gone

  • @ahoythespoonsareawake4617
    @ahoythespoonsareawake4617 Před 8 lety +17

    This brings back some great memories. I used to travel the length and breadth of Britain in my twenties & the train system was GREAT because of the people on it.

  • @ELPaso1990TX
    @ELPaso1990TX Před 11 lety +17

    Look more comfortable than the class 220/221 voyagers and pendolinos

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 Před 5 lety +3

      sounds like you're talking about the West Coast mainline, this is the East Coast mainline, these InterCity 225 sets (Class 91s/ Mark 4s) are still going! But not for much longer as they'll be replaced with the Class 801 Azumas soon

  • @danielmccarty689
    @danielmccarty689 Před 7 lety +21

    I miss the grey-ish interior of the as-built, unrefurbished 1st class Mk4s!

    • @dananderson9708
      @dananderson9708 Před 5 lety +4

      Daniel McCarty Me too!! Though I do prefer the reclining LNER leather seats

  • @benalowery
    @benalowery Před 4 měsíci +2

    £16.50 for a three course meal is the equivalent to £45 in 2024

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 Před 5 lety +4

    Oh how I loved those first class dining cars! Breakfasts especially .....

  • @PenzancePete
    @PenzancePete Před 11 lety +19

    Look at the meal service that's being provided. Compare it with the microwave plastic cutlery crap that's served now in first class.

    • @Ayeayecapn88
      @Ayeayecapn88 Před 7 lety +3

      Baby Boomers having a great time compared to 'millennials'!

    • @annescholey6546
      @annescholey6546 Před 4 lety

      The buffet is closing at Reading😁

  • @wewillrockyou1986
    @wewillrockyou1986 Před 3 lety +2

    A lot of people talking about the costs of the public against the privatised railway aren't accounting for the fact that a LOT of work modernising the network had been put off through the 70s, 80s, and well into the early 2000s... We're paying for putting off that work now and modernising the network. Not to mention that delaying a lot of improvements has come at the price of higher running costs.
    At the end of the day you get out what you put in, and people weren't willing to put much in since the Benching days. We'd still be paying the costs of delaying a lot of the infrastructure projects regardless of whether privatisation had happened or not.

  • @AlsidekSheibani
    @AlsidekSheibani Před měsícem

    This is great 👍 and I am Libyan 🇱🇾 by the way

  • @PenzancePete
    @PenzancePete Před 11 lety +29

    Sorry to disappoint you old mate but the new privatised railway is costing the taxpayer more in subsidies than the nationalised B.R. ever did. The Inter-City division of B.R. was the only passenger railway in Europe that ran subsidy free. Now the taxpayer is paying oney to German and French companies to run Britain's railways.

    • @Sam-bz1hr
      @Sam-bz1hr Před 3 lety

      Ahh and finally is coming to an end!!

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 Před rokem +1

    Must be winter of 1992 I'm guessing from what that lady said about the recession catching up with her business.
    The Mk4 sets always were useless in the snow. But a very comfortable and pleasant environment in which to be delayed, which is not something you can always say about the more modern trains.

  • @FireHawkGaming
    @FireHawkGaming Před 11 lety +20

    You do know that, including accounting for inflation, the subsidy is around 3x what BR ever got right? Also, that the ticket prices are the highest EVER, and keep rising, and that the trains and consists on many lines are over 30 years old. Whilst the big intercity trains were meant to last, the small commuter trains, particularly in the north, are dirty, noisy, uncomfortable and usually crowded. Down south where there's profit we have new trains, but we also have old trains & old infrastructure

  • @kenhughes5642
    @kenhughes5642 Před rokem

    Think this was an inside story documentary called Railway. Remember watching it at the time. Very good.x

  • @AlisonBryen
    @AlisonBryen Před 7 lety +3

    The Intercity 125s remind me of holidays in Dawlish Warren: late 80s/early 90s

  • @internet123ism2
    @internet123ism2 Před 7 lety +2

    good video...passenger interviews great idea

  • @graemeherrington4287
    @graemeherrington4287 Před 8 lety +1

    Brilliant.

  • @Phil6219
    @Phil6219 Před 12 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing mate

  • @johntate5050
    @johntate5050 Před rokem

    Great documentary. Immeasurably better than the crap they make these days.

  • @smokerlad
    @smokerlad Před 3 lety +6

    Everybody looks so smart, all got their bow ties and uniforms on , everything looks so much cleaner. What has happened to Britain?!

    • @PibrochPonder
      @PibrochPonder Před 3 lety

      Diversity is a strength

    • @xm3405
      @xm3405 Před 3 lety

      @@PibrochPonder oh fuck off , british people changed.

    • @danieljones1797
      @danieljones1797 Před 2 lety +2

      @@PibrochPonder what does this have to do with diversity smh

    • @oldtechnobodycaresabout
      @oldtechnobodycaresabout Před rokem

      Cos their on TV

    • @cryptofierce7431
      @cryptofierce7431 Před rokem

      @@PibrochPonder
      Saw this coming - but London has declined not just because of “that”

  • @dmfub2348
    @dmfub2348 Před 6 měsíci

    There's always a know it all interfering like the auld boy at 4.27
    😂

  • @RWL2012
    @RWL2012 Před 5 lety +4

    8:40 MOBILE PHONE!!!

  • @sheba31
    @sheba31 Před 12 lety +3

    Trev its meals on wheels with Mr happy the senior conductor,who probably has a pollish accent now.

  • @simsonie
    @simsonie Před 4 lety +1

    That woman with the wrong ticket was at it. One minute she got on the wrong train by mistake and tried to get off, the next she'd seen the board and it was valid.

  • @macflod
    @macflod Před rokem

    They had proper dinner service on intercity in the 90s!!!!?
    Why does it suck so much these days

  • @annescholey6546
    @annescholey6546 Před 4 lety +1

    Train staff became nicer than in the surly 80s

  • @user-nw7oq3up3g
    @user-nw7oq3up3g Před 2 lety

    James martin in his early days !!

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 Před 4 lety +1

    2.09 bet sundays arent part of the normal working week for the clever sods in management.

    • @adamw2911
      @adamw2911 Před 2 lety

      To be fair a front line job on the railways has generally meant you wave goodbye to your weekends.

  • @mattval6293
    @mattval6293 Před 5 lety +1

    Was this part 1 as I don’t remember this part at the beginning

  • @scottchristie6734
    @scottchristie6734 Před 2 lety +2

    Salmon, now a days you are lucky to get a sandwich.

  • @sarribel
    @sarribel Před 3 lety +1

    for all its faults, given that employees such as guards can take home around 35K these days plus the fact that billions have been invested in the railways during the last decade, improving reliability, increasing passenger numbers thus stopping some people driving polluting cars and that the UK is got a fleet of fast, brand new trains, it´s been a win win affair

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 Před 5 lety +7

    Fully agree with the guard in this regarding going backwards with conditions and hours with the powers that be wanting sundays to be part of a normal working week with no enhanced rates........indeed that is regressive. Would the management work their sundays for the flat rate? Would they buggery. This chap wanted to see more of his family not less......I wonder how the talks went in the end?
    Horrible grey everywhere interiors on those 1st class coaches.....not a hint of colour.....very drab.
    As for the chef putting in 16 hr shift......that surely wouldnt be allowed or expected today......youve barely got 8 hrs left including relaxation sleep and commuting to the depot and back......

    • @dominicmackrill5953
      @dominicmackrill5953 Před 3 lety

      Get rid of the guard then have all the Sundays you like not to work :)

    • @PibrochPonder
      @PibrochPonder Před 3 lety

      If he don’t like it he can leave! Why should the tax payer pay for him to have a cushy life.

    • @SOPM944
      @SOPM944 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dominicmackrill5953 tory

  • @ewloe01
    @ewloe01 Před 11 lety +1

    I would love to know if the guard sorry senier conducter is still working on the railways today?

    • @internet123ism2
      @internet123ism2 Před 7 lety

      talking "morale" in public too...outrageous.

    • @dominicmackrill5953
      @dominicmackrill5953 Před 4 lety

      Mog. Moaning Old Git. Ever so simple if you don’t like your conditions get a new job.....

    • @scottchristie6734
      @scottchristie6734 Před 2 lety +1

      I am 25 and I have never known or will ever know the benefits he enjoyed.

    • @BenDover-ln6ns
      @BenDover-ln6ns Před 10 měsíci

      John ,no he isn’t. He knows his stuff that man, i use to work with him during inter-city days.

  • @chusan01
    @chusan01 Před 11 lety

    I miss the delicious British Rail sandwiches on lovely tasteless white bread!

  • @jshanks8365
    @jshanks8365 Před 2 lety

    Why does the man at 8:20 ask for his ticket to be signed?

    • @miniroll32
      @miniroll32 Před rokem

      My take on it was, when he says he might get ‘arrested’, he was being tinge and cheek referring to his wife in that he wanted to prove to her he did indeed travel at that time.

  • @DeanPark
    @DeanPark Před 11 lety +2

    I knew Intercity was making a profit before it was wound up.The new railway system we have now may be still costing us as taxpayers far too much,but at least we are seeing some return on our money with massive improvements to the infrastructure.. its far from perfect, but surely better than the BR days of the 1970's! It disappoints me that we do not make and design our own trains anymore, but its a free market economy & that has killed off our home grown design/manufacturing base.

    • @GrumpyL5
      @GrumpyL5 Před 4 lety +2

      Nowhere near a return for our money and not better IME. As for not making our own trains anymore, the design standards of take what a few private companies offer?

  • @harveyjames9600
    @harveyjames9600 Před 2 lety +1

    The service is far better nowadays, complimentary meals in first class, nicer more comfortable and modern interior of the trains, politer staff, nicer stations etc.

  • @DamoMcDermott
    @DamoMcDermott Před 11 lety +1

    bring back paxman valenta

  • @grah84mck
    @grah84mck Před 11 lety

    She mibby should not be lording it up in 1st class.

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 Před 4 lety

    The chefs hours......16 hr days.what a joke.

    • @eddherring4972
      @eddherring4972 Před 2 lety +1

      There’s only 1 or 2 services which have dining now. 16 hour days are also quite common now. NHS, retailers, hospitality, HGV drivers are just a few examples where long days are standard.

  • @BlackRose-vi2yg
    @BlackRose-vi2yg Před 11 měsíci

    Unfortunately, the railways were bad then and are bad now. This old system looks like a monkey-making scheme for the conductors 🤷

  • @DeanPark
    @DeanPark Před 11 lety +2

    Nationalisation is not the answer, that is a drain on taxpayers. The private sector has invested masses of money in the railway, completely rebuilding the network and stations, take Kings Cross and Edinburgh Waverely as examples. I am not saying the current framework we have for rail companies having to compete for the franchise is the perfect answer, but it is an improvement from 30 years ago.

    • @wibbers01
      @wibbers01 Před 7 lety +5

      Poor example. Kings Cross and Edinburgh Waverley stations (in fact all UK rail stations and infrastructure) have been owned and maintained are owned and maintained since 2003 by Network Rail, a publicly owned company. Therefore, those improvements were paid for by the government and tax payers. The only thing owned by privately owned companies is the provision of passenger and freight tarnsport which get a massive public subsidy.

    • @theflyingsteamerstoke8534
      @theflyingsteamerstoke8534 Před 6 lety +7

      How can a public service be a 'drain' on the taxpayer? The government isn't a business that has to make a profit it's instead the holders of a publicly owned industry so rather than profits being taken by shareholders and thus out of the industry are instead channeled back into the industry so a publicly owned industry does not need to make a profit as there is no one actually profiteering from it.

    • @annescholey6546
      @annescholey6546 Před 4 lety

      Doncaster gets a million azumas a day up n down now.

    • @PibrochPonder
      @PibrochPonder Před 3 lety +1

      @@theflyingsteamerstoke8534 it’s pretty simple, publicly funded just means that it’s tax payer funded. As taxes are not something people agree to but are rather forced to pay under the threat of prison then it’s morally wrong to increase the tax burden in the public. Lower taxes are morally right and higher taxes are theft. Having an industry that is taking public money is effectively stealing from the public.

  • @devon896
    @devon896 Před 3 lety +2

    1:33 laughable. What he's actually saying is I want to stay at home but get paid for work. All of us want to spend more time with our family but life doesn't work like that.

    • @eddherring4972
      @eddherring4972 Před 2 lety +3

      Furlough.
      Also what he is saying is that he’d like to be able to choose whether or not he works Sundays which is not unreasonable given when this was recorded.

    • @BenDover-ln6ns
      @BenDover-ln6ns Před 10 měsíci

      Says the guy who probably wasn’t even alive when this video was taken. Do one!

    • @devon896
      @devon896 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BenDover-ln6ns Well you're clearly a knob, because the airline industry does shift work including weekends and has done for years.

    • @BenDover-ln6ns
      @BenDover-ln6ns Před 10 měsíci

      @@devon896 Behave yourself, Virgin went well didn’t it when they thought they could fly trains. Stop waffling about a video you know nothing about. Just another millennial who thinks they know better.