Buying a Music Production Computer - PC or Mac? AVOID THESE 5 MISTAKES!
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- čas přidán 11. 08. 2021
- Are you considering buying a new PC or Mac for audio production? Then definitely check out this video where PreSonus Software Specialist Gregor Beyerle tells you about 5 common mistakes to avoid when purchasing a DAW computer.
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I am so glad that Presonus had the peace of mind to bring you on staff. You are definitely a Godsend for making Presonus Gear and Software workable and enjoyable as we learn from these youtube videos. I think that Gregor and Joe really make Presonus Studio One and Gear a step above other DAW's because of these great tutorials. Thanks for being a great teaching tool for the masses. Have a great day.
Thank you so much, Myron! -GBY
Yea for sure. These tutorials are the best.
Gregor is the bomb!
Agree.
Exactly my thoughts on this. Well said!
Thank you for your contributions Gregor and Joe!
Been using Studio One for around a month, the S1 family is just, so wholesome. I love y'all!
I've been googling for straight talk about this topic for years - what a great presentation of the facts and WHY they are the facts. Thank you!
Core i5 that is 3 years old still runs Reason 11 and Fruity loops no issues.
Thank you, Gregor! I built my computer some 7 years ago, and it's still great. A gamer colleague helped me. But this will be even more useful when time comes to upgrade.
Excellent tutorial! For those who do not need the “top 5%” professional studio grade gear: I’m a ship designer who does music production as a hobby. I used to spend tons of money on computers for 3D CAD ship modelling, rendering and calcs….till the gaming laptops arrived. I now do both the design- and the S1 audio work on a high end gaming laptop without problems. Spending less money on a single machine allows also for buying a new (fast-unclogged) state-of-the-art machine each other year… just make sure to get rid of the HDD and use a big SSD instead. Thanks Gregor!
Gregor ... your videos and common sense approach to audio work is so helpful ... I am clueless on many things ... but each time I watch one of your videos ... it helps me immensely to become better in working on my music ... thus making everything better ... thank you tons!!
Love this. I already had a pc built for me and this confirms I did pretty well. One mistake I made was to think that the system drive would only need to be a half TB because I had two other 2 TB drives for samples and storage. I underestimated how often downloads would want to install to the system drive. So now I'm upgrading it to a 2 TB ssd drive as well. But the motherboard had extra slots for that so it's an easy task.
By the way, another great subject to cover might be optimizing all the computer and operating system settings for audio recording. I don't know much about that and have been hard pressed to find resources that are understandable and easier to follow.
which motherboard did you get?
I went for Ryzen 7 5800x, 32Ram, 2TB SSD and so far don't regret it. I wish this video was posted sooner. I spent a lot of time searching for the crucial specs for audio PC.
I would also recommend checking how many memory channels your CPU of choice and motherboard supports (not the slots). It can influence latency when playing sample-heavy instruments - obviously the more channels the better. Cheers!
That is the situation I'm in with building one with my son. Desktop, Laptop or no laptop, Apple or Windows. Everyone says Apple is popular in music production but what I'm reading on the issues with the MacBook Pros having soldered SSDs and keyboard issues and screen issues and what that would mean... We just killed a Gigabyte laptop and they don't sell the motherboards and it is now trash(or pay them for $1200 for a new motherboard-nope) we don't want another experience like this with Apple. My son really wants to use Logic(he uses Pro Tools at college) because he uses a lot of midi instruments in symphony compositions.
I was looking for a video like this. Thanks for putting it together.
Would love to see you explain the bios setup in computers it's never explained and is very important on how your system performs .
me too. and a list of things one can do to make studio one run better.
Not just great sound but also superb Video Quality of your video here. Far better than 90% of anything else I can see on my low quality monitor!
Great tip on the connectivity features. Bought an MSI motherboard advertised with Thunderbolt 3 so I could get a Quantum interface, only for MSI to completely remove support, so you really have to do your homework for both features and manufacturers.
i got a xeon processor & an SSD to be blazing fast in music production. it was, for a few days. then windows 10 screwed me over with an update which artificially lengthens my boot time to 10 minutes(!) with an SSD. imagine ! i get to stare at a black screen for 10 minutes on startup & this problem has still not been solved with recent updates. never underestimate the power of microsoft to destroy your investment in the blink of an eye.
@@nandakishore588 I feel you bro
Wow this is a very valuable video. Rare to find a company that tells you in detail what computer specs to look for to get the best performance out of there software. Thank you for taking the time to make this.
I can confirm! Searching for months and this is the only one I've found useful.
I Use an AWD gaming system, that runs my Studio One 5, Professional, with ease, I also keep my soundsets on a separate external hard drive a 250Gb SSD, which works without any problems when recording, mixing, or mastering in studio one. I also use the same system and Studio One to put together my podcast series, I have been impressed since upgrading from artist 4.2 to Professional 5.3, the software has never failed me yet. all that's left to add is to update my audio interface (currently using a Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen) to Presonus io24. Keep up the great work Gregor & Joe
Great video. A must watch for all S1 users.
this is one of the most important topic so far. thank you gregor
Thanks this is fantastic and very helpful.
Thanks Gregor. Love to see you do a geeky walkthrough of all the tech settings w/in S1. I suspect even the basics are helpful for many.
9:57 Don't underestimate the number of USB ports that you need! Especially count how many USB C, 3.1, 3.0, 2.0 devices you will have connected. You will need plenty. Auido interface, MIDI keyboard, control pad, some synths, edrum, foot controllers, digital amps, etc... I have a small studio but there are 15+ USB cables at the back of my PC.
This is a must watch for those starting out. Great vid 👍
Excellent video topic , really helpful info . Hope to see more of these , matter of fact you don’t hear to much about this topic for us musicians.
Cheers from Michigan BC
Still the same situation 2 years later! Either someone is a musician or they are a computer person, rarely both it seems. Hard to find out exactly what one needs. Great video, the only one I've found that gets into the intricacies of the systems
Great video, Gregor! Can you do something similar for laptops users?
This video was really needed. Thanks.
Excellent video Gregor! You articulated the confusion with purchasing a computer for audio. I take you're using a mac - what model are you using for audio?
Awesome information Gregor. Will we get the OpenGL functionality on Windows too?
Thanks!
I bought a PC audio labs Roc Box last fall. Maximum upgrade everything except the graphics card (only upgraded to the first level there) Was about 6k Canadian but holy smokes this computer is BAD ASS. Can literally NEVER hear it and it preforms lke a champ ! Fast AF. I'm sure I'll have it for at least 10 years.... So I chalk it down as a great investment ! The guys over there at PCAL are very knowledgeable and helpful. Highly recommended !
This is the one I needed. Thank You.
would love an updated vid for this. but thank you!
Great information..!! Thanks
Thxs Gregor for this very informative info on computers for DAWs.I am looling into upgrading my PC and this helps tremendously on my decision.thxs again.
Thank you for mentioning PCAudioLabs and what we do! We appreciate you all.
@@bahgo thank you! That means a lot to us 😊
Thanks for the great advice and info.
thank you so much!
everything he says has value, literally no rambling wow. thank you for the incredible video. great tips.
Super hyped for my next studio pc build!
Hi Gregor great video as always! Question: are we going to see hardware accelerated graphics on PC?
Thanks Gregory for your advise & tips it is much apprecaited
Informative and delivered in a way that an amateur (me) could understand.
Thank you.
I own an MSI Prestige 15, and it performs great for audio and even video. It could get a bit loud when running a big project, but I would still recommend it.
Thank you for your sincere advices
great video< thanks for the advice!
Perfect! Thank you SOOOOO much!
It's also worth pointing out that different DAWs will have drastically different needs for computer resources. Studio One 5 is really good at only using what it needs but in my experience Pro Tools First, which is the basic, free version of Pro-Tools is an ogre when it comes to RAM and CPU usage, that makes me wonder what the full version is like. I don't know how other DAWs measure up but that's something to keep in mind
I swapped from Abelton to Reaper which is far less resource hungry
@@JohannesNielsenDo you know what Logic is like?
just what I needed. Thank you
Great info - thanks!
Hey Gregor, I love your videos as they're always very informative, I'm curious as to which macOS you feel is best for studio one 5? I have a 2018 i7 mac mini running mojave with a quantum 2 interface & komplete kontrol s61mk2 controller, Cheers
great beat playing in the background! also, as a die hard geek myself, props to gregor for knowing his way around computers!
I just purchased a new PC after many months of researching it primarily for S1 use. DLC performance is key to choosing a motherboard peeps, along with single core performance.
Thank you so much, this was Very helpful to know this.
I'm searching over a week and this is the best information I found ! Thank you
I found it after months of searching. I wish it was only a week! Why is there so little information out there like this I will never understand.
The information is outdated for now@@sl5311
Wow great video quality - did you get a new camera / streaming equipment? Looking good!
I'm so glad I changed my main DAW and joined Studio One! Appart from the fact that Presonus knows on which parts of the program to focus and develop, content like this is very helpful and they do it in a very proffesional way and to the point. That's why I rarely need to watch several more videos to get my head around particular things because I can always come back to these well made official ones.
When it comes to PC built, this video was my base for further research since I had almost zero knowledge in that area and I've managed to built a great PC that will finally be a great home for Studio One and other applications.
I really do hope they continue in the same pace because that's one of the main reasons I realised I need to change my main DAW and ended up choosing Studio One. It's not about "more more more", it's about focus.
This presenter is amazing. Thank you for this very informative video!
Great Video lots if Important Information
With a lot of people now using DaVinci resolve's Fairlight for tweaking their videos you might want to think about GPU memory too. You don't need to go full gonzo video render mode - but Resolve does use GPU memory so something in the 4+ GB range is good as an addition to regular memory.
Very informative! Thank You 😊
good stuff! This is very informative for me
Thanks you made me feel better
Thanks for that very informative video, I especially like that you take the time to explain why the most expensive option is rarely the best option. Check your needs before specing out a 5000€+ computer or you set yourself up for disappointment !
You showed Diva while you were talking about how 1 channel can only be processed by once core (~3:14) and of course this is true most of the time but an instance of Diva can actually use multiple cores, the button for enabling this is right up there near the "Output".
Very very useful video for creaters
Great explanation Gregor!
Thank you for these videos, You can not understand how much I appreciate a Professional presentation and intelligent information. Are you doing these on the fly or scripted, if your going from the dome you have a true talent….
Gregor, I think every time you are reading my mind and making a video about that. I am trying to build a music production/gaming pc and I researched a lot about components I need to able to fit together work as a harmony. According to this video, the only thing I should consider is my ssd storage which I was thinking for 1tb nvme ssd and 2 tb hdd. Now instead of that 2tb hdd, I will look for a second nvme ssd. Thanks a lot :D
Thank You for this video. I learned alot. I wish that this video came out before I purchased my last computer. LOL!
I would love to see a comprehensive and up-to-date deep dive into setting and tweaks for best audio performance; especially towards S1 users. Nice job Presonus & Gregor... keep it up!
With windows 10 there isn't many tweaks you need to make other than putting your pc into high performance mode in the power options settings. I don't know about Mac or earlier versions of windows.
You nailed it by explaining the need for powerful single core performance. Let us say that eight motor scooters do not equal one truck. I get all I need from a quad core i5 CPU.
in 2021?
@@beautifulcaramelman yes! for my beats studio and my EDM recordings with vintage hardware synths I'll be good for another 10 years lol. My CPU meters never break 40%.
Good explanation - big orchestral arrangements = more cores. Thanks a lot.
Regardles of all the things available, my basic specs will always be 24/96. I have a large collection of 16/44 and do not want to go back, but I hear the difference at 24/96. So all my recording and results will end up 24/96. I just do not see a need to go higher than 24/96. I also agree with the SSD, fans and PS. I would add a cd/dvd opticle disk drive.
Why a cd/dvd optical disk?
This video is gold. Danke!
Excellent information with a straight forward explanation for any music enthusiast to understand. Great job my friend. Danke! ++Peace, Funk & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul++
Another fantastic video!!!!
Great info thanks .. wondered what your take on running multiple pcs any benefits here like vsts on one jbridge or veinna networked ect... mac pc @ same time? Same daw?
brilliant clear info, so single core high base count a good place to start, thanks
im looking for a laptop with low latency monitoring for layering say 4 powerfull drum vsts and guitar sims low sample rate, my 6th gen i7 and 16gb ram is clicking all over the place and dropouts any suggestions on a good base start, many thanks
Hi. Please tell me how to move the audio inside the event without snapping to the grid? Thanks!
Brilliant, thank you!
Could u do a review or guide on the new Mac studio. Not sure which version I should get for music production/ video editing.
great video, good info.
Curious as to what commercially available (PC) laptop you would recommend for best performance in ALL areas.
Super erklärt! Danke.
I feel that some topics were left out, oversimplified. For example. What kind of SSD should i get? Is Sata enough for larger sessions? And RAM, what clocks should it have?
I thinkt that many people ask what computer should they get for audio, but rarely there are guides with specifics on what to aim for exactly.
Awesome video so Inur opinion which Mac should I buy with what specs??? I have a home studio just me and my wife and would like a list of specs u recommend also I use logic amd don’t use more than 20 tracks
Amazing video as always
PreSonus, I know you were just bought out - I don’t care. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH GREGOR AND JOE AND DON’T CHANGE ANY ASPECT OF THEIR CURRENT APPROACHES TO INSTRUCTIONAL AND PRESONUS CULTURE VIDEOS!!! These guys epitomize an educational and professional ecosystem that is unprecedented in this market. We love it. We need it. We will always come back if it’s here. Thank you for your wisdom and insight in giving these gifted guys their podiums, and keep churning the vids out. Thank you!!!
excellent video gregor
I am going for a Mac in my next studio set up. Are M1 machines ok??
I'm putting the finishing touches to my new studio and am going to get all new computer gear for it so this is very timely.
I have lots of virtual synths and have always thought it would be great to run them on a touch screen as changing parameters with a mouse is just not very satisfying. Do you have any comments about using a touch screen? Also, I seem to recall that PreSonus had a touch screen mixer. Is that still a thing?
Can you put this onto a pdf list or something? I’d love to be able to read a list of recommended specs when looking at parts lists
Amazing video
I have a question. I work in Luna + apollo x4 on a late 2013 Imac 8G 256. Not ideal I know. I compose orchestral music using Spitfire discovery and Albion One and add vocals to the composition. I use some UAD plug ins Fab EQ and the Izotope. In Luna I have the NEVE console added and that uses a lot of power. Even so - With a 10 to 15 track my computer renders at 130 and already at 100 I hear a lot of drop outs when bounce the track. I need a new Imac. I've seen the new 2021 24 inch Imac that comes with 16G 8-8 and 1 terra. Would that computer which is an M1 do the job for me? I might be able to expand the amount of instruments for a fuller orchestra or movie trailer but I will I guess never go over 50. In the UAD group the pro's of course advice the fastest of the fastest you can get but with Apple"s prices on upgrades that is just a lot of money and maybe even overkill for me for that matter. What can you advice about the M1 Imac or should I wait till the new 2022 Imac is released? Thanks in advance
Brilliant, thank you.
Very helpful video!!!
So glad to hear that! Thank you, Max. -GBY
Thanks for the info. I've learned a lot! What I did miss is some more concrete advice to how much or what I should go for. Like with the RAM. You explained why I would need a lot of why I wouldn't need a lot but I have no clue what a lot is and what isn't. As a noob I would like to know where 16gb gets me and where 32gb gets me in terms of actual things. Like how many omnispheres could I load with it until it starts having trouble.. I might be saying something stupid but in terms of not having to go look how much ram I'm using and just going with your advice based on what you're doing.
Very good information!
Thank you very much! -GBY
Great video, I’m about to buy a new laptop for music production and I wonder if I should pay more for the one that has thunderbolt connections?
It's the fastest way to transfer or render data, so I'd pay a little more as long as it's reasonable. What did you end up doing? Of course then you need an interface that uses a thunderbolt connection. I think it will be the best way for at least a decade or more. It's already been around 5+ years & still very few people even use it.
If you want the sweespot between singlethread perfomance and core count, it is the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU . Singlethread is a little slower than Intel Core i9-11900K but it's basically the same thing, in fact, in gaming both are pretty close like 1% difference or something like that.
Then that will change with 12 gen Core.
I would like to see a breakdown of ATX vs Mini ATX builds for music production.
Good, solid advice. Well produced.
Much appreciated! -GBY
This is extremely useful 👍👍👍
Great video!
Thank you