Did A Vegan Diet Cause My Eating Disorder?
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Just to be clear, Fuhrman is an anti-vax quack and I don't recommend his book.
I think that people with eating disorders are attracted to extreme diets like veganism and paleo. Is that something wrong with the diets? No, but it is a thing.
Freelee’s, Kristina’s, and High Carb Hannah’s extremely restrictive vegan diets WITHOUT A DOUBT caused my binge eating disorder which led to major depressive disorder and suicidal tendencies. I gained 50lbs trying to stick to one of their crazy diets, then binging so bad on even non vegan foods that I would feel sick and my stomach would hurt so bad I thought I was dying, then try to diet again and the cycle repeated for 18 months. I had so much guilt about eating animal products but I had absolutely no control and I thought I was broken for not being able to eat only fruit or fruit and potatoes or HCLF. Finally, after I had my son, it clicked. I could JUST be vegan. And it worked. I eat mock meats, vegan icecream, baked goods, ALL THE OIL, tofu, protein powders, and other no-no foods from the “health” vegans told me we’re just transition foods and not okay for weight loss. Well I lost 55lbs eating that way and have been vegan, without a binge episode, for 2 years now 😊😊❤️ The only reason I knew this kind of eating was okay, was because of Swayze. So yes, I am an Unnatural Vegan fangirl.
Have you ever thought about starting a podcast? I think you would be great at them.
EDs are exhausting.
Usually is the opposite . Veganism is a way to cover an eating disorder . For bulimics , is possible to over eat and not gain weight . For anorexics is a way to make others think they are eating . For orthorexics , is a way to make other think they are eating healthy . Many plant based foods have relative low calories in comparison to their volume .
Depressed vegetarian: can confirm depression was first 🤣🤣
i was hesitant to click on this video just because i knew it would bring up a lot of memories. I too had an eating disorder starting up before going vegan, of course went raw overnight and it just got worse and worse in the years following. I think a lot of what contributed to this was watching people like freelee and kristina and idolizing their "amazing lifestyles"....At least in my life perfectionism and control are the root causes of my ED but being immersed in a cult like mentality made it much much worse. And i have to say, your videos helped me "deprogram" so to say from the 80/10/10 lifestyle and started me getting back on track <3 <3
I had an eating disorder and then went vegan (freelee-vegan unfortunately). A Vegan diet didn’t cause my eating disorder. I went vegan to eat „perfect“.
I really wish people wouldnt use the word diet as a word that means the state of trying to lose weight. Diet just means what you eat. Standard eating is a diet, paleo is a type of diet, veganism is both a diet and a life style. The verb dieting is really to blame for this.
As someone who had an eating disorder I don't think that vegan diet causes it but it is very easy to relapse when you're in recovery if you're vegan. For example if you're going to a restaurant with your friends, birthday partys etc you can easily say you can't eat this and that because you're vegan and you just skip your fear foods and stay in your unhealthy undereating mindset. If you're not willingly in recovery process you can easily disguise your anorexic behaviour with excuses due to your vegan diet so I do think that people who are recovering from eating disorders shouldn't be vegan. At least not until they are fully recovered (although mentally you're never fully recovered completely).
If I may make a small suggestion?
As a vegan and a nurse that has worked in psych ... When a patient would say they were vegan, alarm clocks would ring. Being vegan is a great excuse to say "no thank you" to a lot of food.
It sounds like you really trusted your mom specially as you were a teenager and mental health is so personal. My mom was the person I trusted the most and it's really nice to hear someone else felt the same. I really miss her.
Also I reckon people subconsciously use dieting as something to fixate on and distract them from their problems but it can easily spiral out of control
Based on my own experience having anorexia nervosa and knowing many people with anorexia and other eating disorders. Eating disorders are developed as an unhealthy coping mechanism to distract ourselves from trauma, anxiety and depression. I had personally always wanted to be vegan and had previously been vegetarian on and off before(family did not support it) but my eating disorder developed after a traumatic experience. And focusing on my weight, shape and how much I was eating (to the point where I was weighing and counting lettuce leaves and sesame seeds) was a way to distract myself from my experience and my depression. But I believe there is definitely a genetic predisposition, there had to be something for the experience to trigger, otherwise if everyone went through that experience they would all have eating disorders. However the way eating disorders work is they often try to trigger themselves, looking up diets and pseudoscience to justify the irrational thinking that comes with being mentally ill, which is often where things like raw veganism tend to worsen disordered thoughts because of the strict rules and fear mongering. However eating disorders, in particular anorexia nervosa(I had many episodes of purging as well) is one of the most painful and horrible experiences to go through both mentally and physically, which in my experience significantly increased my level of empathy which of course extends to animals. Veganism honestly was one of the things that has really really helped me in my recovery, this is however along with weekly therapy, constant supervision by my parents and antidepressants and a mild antipsychotic. It forced me to take more independence and responsibility for my eating and gave me the larger purpose of ethical and environmental motivation rather than my self worth, weight, shape and calories. But eating disorders are the mental illness with the highest mortality rates in the world. 1 in 5 die, that’s 20%, which is why it is imperative that if you are struggling with this you need to seek help from a professional which is specialised in eating disorder treatment and whilst you are mentally and physically unwell you are not in a stable position to make rational decisions about your diet. Take care of yourselves everyone 💖
I'm a registered dietitian that followed you all through my nutrition education, I enjoyed hearing your story and perspective and I look forward to your intuitive eating video. I believe in the nutrition world we are all still learning what is truly best practice around dieting, weight management and eating disorders. One thing that I think is worth examining in the studies you mentioned about eating disorders rates among dieters is if there is a risk of EDs being underdiagnosed in that population. You yourself were never diagnosed with an eating disorder, and neither was I many years ago when I struggled with my own relationship with food and my body - though looking back, we both met diagnostic criteria for EDs. In my personal experience, there are many people out there struggling with disordered eating patterns who never seek help or are diagnosed.
I don’t think diets directly cause eds, but could definitely trigger them.
Haven’t fed (no pun intended) into my old ED habits in 4 years and still going strong ❤️
I believe that while not all dieters will get eating disorders, I believe that all dieters will at some point have disordered eating or disordered exercise patterns: ie ignoring hunger cues, planning days around exercising, obsessive calorie counting, fasting, focusing on weight too much. The main difference is that they aren’t feeling the guilt and shame that someone with an eating disorder might feel. And they won’t constantly be in a disordered cycle (unless of course they are a serial dieter)