I Ask the 2024 Chevy Silverado EV's Chief Engineer 3 TOUGH Questions: Here Are the Answers!
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I am very impressed by her! She is proud of the truck and should be!
Damn, every truck should have vinyl floors. It is an upgrade as far as I am concerned.
Yup, I hate carpet in my trucks.
yep my wife does dog shows, works in vet field, etc etc.. This whole leather seats and fancy materials on high traffic areas isn't my thing.. Give me a good dura tec fabric seat, vinyl floor and we will send that thing all day. This work truck is a+ because of this, to bad there RS / consumer one isn't optionable yet with it.
That’s one of my favorite features of my trail boss: no carpet.
Loved that my 1500 Denali while I had it had the upgraded vinyl floors.
It’s like. Do you want carpet in your whole house. Or hard floors (tile,luxury vinyl, wood)
Did you ask her which package you have to order to get cruise control?
Lmao. Just to get cruise control?
I still can't get over the fact that his truck does not have cruise control. How does any vehicle made after 2010 not have cruise control as a standard basic function
You need to order a certain package for cruise control as a feature in 2023? Shit cars have had that feature for decades, that’s pathetic coming from EVs. Should be a standard in the lowest of their basic trim models
@@josevazquez1042 i don't think it has anything to do with EVs as his truck is a standard ICE truck.
@@daddystired Inside joke
The truck honestly looks great, the problem is the price point.
I will never like that minimalistic front end that all ev's seem to have. The rest of the cars/trucks design im not overly concerned about but they look to plain and simple and boring not to mention when you simplify is easy to go into the it looks cheep category
@@Sourman1545 the front end could be a bit better. By "looks great" I also meant the features/specs it has.
yeah. It will go down. That's how it always goes, it's expensive at first, and once enough people buy it they can afford to ramp up production and drive down cost. The huge deposit of lithium we found in the Salton Sea Geothermal Field will help. It's dissolved in the brine; it's just a matter of filtering it out of the water. Controlled Thermal, the Australian company that's extracting it, thinks they can get 300,000 tons every year for the next 100 years. It's northeast of San Diego. They also plan to build machinery to get geothermal power from the naturally hot brine (there's a huge blob of magma right there that's heating the rock). They think they can get 1.1 GW. (we already have 730 MW of geothermal up here in the Bay Area.)
It's like the first IBM Personal Computer Model 5150.....when that thing came out in 1981 (my dad got one! it was my first computer at home), it was 5,000 USD, which is like 16,000 USD today. But you hold about 1000 times more computing power in your pocket, and it cost you a small fraction of that. 🙂
It must be SUPER rewarding to have worked so hard on this project and to be driving one around in the real world. Nicole’s interviews are awesome, and it’s so cool that GM is letting you interview actual engineers instead of PR people. Shows how confident and proud they are of their people and products. These are incredibly impressive trucks. Can’t wait to drive an RST, and I hope the production ramp up is relatively fast speedy as the new Ultium battery plants come on line.
An Engineer that is this well spoken and quick on her feet is a needle in a haystack…. Ask me how I know
Kyle of out of spec did a nice interview that day with a young engineer on towing dynamics. Worth watching.
@@TheExumRidge Thanks! I did!
She seems like such a "normal" person...it's refreshing
She is a smart Chief Engineer and can be proud of what she and her team achieved, bravo!
I'm more impressed with her than the truck. Never have I heard an engineer speak of something they designed without them going off the technical deep-end. Her answers were appropriate, thoughtful, spoken to the common man, and most importantly seemed very genuine. Good show.
She was well spoken but what new relevant information did she add? It was like hearing from a marketing rep instead of an engineer....
For example when she was asked how they obtained such a tight turning radius, all she did was BS the topic....
@@nc3826 what would you rather she have said? Something about steer by wire and increasing the depth of the wheel well?…maybe engineering a longer rack and reduced gear ratio between the rack and the steering wheel. Why does it matter? This is a work truck, not a rock crawler. And that’s exactly why I think she was on point. She has a good head for what matters.
@@loudandclearmedia The interview was still interesting, since she was living with the truck. So her feedback was appreciated. And she's probably far better spoken than the average engineer. But she admitted she knew nothing about EVs before she started this project.
And I would rather her say 'anything", that actually addresses the steering radius question. I was not asking for a detailed explanation. But something anything, would have been nice.... Instead of just repeating back the facts that were included in the question, which is what she did....
As a the marketing person she was fine, just not as a lead engineer.
And why are you ranting about rock crawling? You seem to have had a stroke being so defensive about her. Good luck getting that taken care of....
@@nc3826 ummm, my comment was praise, yours was rant. Are you okay?
It's called a critique.
"loudandclearmedia" Thanks for the irony. CZcams wannabe experts are the best.
Have a nice day.
They built this truck to be exactly that, a truck. I saw on another review that the reasoning for the higher price is because the cost of all the parts that make this truck has gone up since the first announcement of the EV. But otherwise from all reviews that Chevy did their homework on this first turn out. Now I can't wait to see when real time reviews for the Equinox EV.
Put me on the engineering lead and this sucker would and perform exactly like a warthog from halo including the gatling style 3 barrel 50 cal. Or in the troop transport version, if youre like that I guess
Good to see she got her foot cast off. There's something so .... normal, down to earth, and attractive about her. Not your usual corporate type. And that is actually nice to see in the truck world. I want normal people building my stuff.
The real elephant in the room is price, this is a work truck that costs as much as a raptor or Trx. Most work truck owners want to spend less not more.
Which shows the limitations of Li-on batteries. Its heavy, expensive to mine, and toxic. For this application it takes a 3K lb battery. That in itself is a showstopper IMO. This is a heavy 9K lb truck that mostly rich boomers will be driving around malls. Its mostly the boomers that are keeping up with the silly price points. But for how much longer? I don't think they alone can keep the higher priced trucks both EV and ICE with huge margins for much longer. If 80 percent of the market stops buying these overpriced trucks the oems are going to have a big problem. I mean things could get ugly for them. I mean really ugly.
@@HiPlains1 agreed, I am willing to spend some money on a vehicle I really want but you could buy a nice house in the Midwest for what a nice pickup costs these days.
Electric vehicles suck so bad its crazy how people are blind to how bad they are. Might beat you at the drag strip but put a ford lightning and a regular f150 in a towing time and overall cost competition by buying the f150s in denver, towing at max load to miami, seeing who gets there the fastest, then you sell the trucks when you get there and whoever gets there the fastest, Cheapest and retains the most of their money upon resale into the used market, wins. Im betting on the gas v8 f150 compared to the lightning. Maybe battery vehicles are good for underground mining idk. They dont seem very good at going the distance or refilling efficiently.. or cost effectiveness to purchase...
@@censored4christ162 I’m happy with my EV, I didn’t but it to tow, I bought it to get my wife to work daily for close to free. It costs me a whopping $4 to charge it up and she can go for a week or 2 on that.
Love how at ease she is in front of the camera. That shows she knows her stuff and is passionate about her work.
She's just blowing smoke when yakking about competitors suspension.
Great interview, guys! Very nice.
That was a great interview!
The one question no one has asked any engineer in any review, is will this platform lend itself to a Tahoe/Suburban EV?
Why not? The escalade iq ev is coming either later this year or in early 2024. 👍🏻
Basically yes. It will be the same basic architecture.
As an engineer I don't see the relevance of the question? Please state some more specifics why it wouldn't....
@@nc3826 It's not that it wouldn't, I'm just suprised that no journalist asked such an obvious of a question.
They are all based on a scalable Ultium based platform.....
She's wrong about fleet buyers not wanting versatility. I'm not sure they should be concentrating on "fleet" buyers but more on general contractors, landscapers, small mom and pop type contractors etc. The WT 4 is out of their price range.
This one is pretty bare bones already, what are the lower trim levels going to be like? Smaller batteries (terrible range), less features than this? GM among others have dropped the ball as far as research. Who exactly are they getting their research polls from?
I agree 100%. THE customer who would use the midgate the most is the working man, i.e. fleet buyer. She really dropped the ball on that.
They decontented the vehicle to get the price down. All new tech starts off expensive. It will take scale to reduce prices, just like any other technology.
She's not totally wrong, but she's definitely not right.... She acted more like a marketing person than an engineer....
As someone with an engineering and financial background..... The economies of scale of just manufacturing one type of EV pickup, would have made The price increase for the WT versions marginal....
I disagree with a lot of things that Tesla does, but simplifying their offerings..... Does increase efficiency and make a lot of sense....
Look beyond the sale price, figure out what the monthly Total Cost of Ownership will be. Yes, the monthly loan will be higher, but is made-up by the difference in gas vs charging costs. The end result is a more expensive EV is actually cheaper to Own.
@@nc3826 I think most of the costs are from the batteries, which are common across vehicles with some having a reduced module count. The higher margin versions are constructed to boost profit margins, and the WT vehicles are probably offered to boost volume and increase scale.
In aviation we'd call that semi-monocoque construction.
Key question that was missed: How many will they ship, and how quickly? If they only produce Hummer / Lyriq quantities it will be very disappointing.
This is a completely different market though. There are 20 tradesmen customers looking at this truck for every potential hummer EV customer, if not more. As such I think they’ll be cranking them out. Same thing with the ford lightning. We’re about to see a LOT more of these kinds of trucks on the road.
So if you have 1000 pounds of drywall loaded in the bed and you get a flat the drywall must be unloaded to get the spare and reloaded to drive away. Seems logical to me. Typical GM.
Why can’t they have the Midgate as an option on a WT? Just saying 😊
I'm not a fan of mid gates but it does need an 8ft bed at a minimum to be a real work truck. Personally i would sacrifice the back seat go single cab just to have a longer bed
Then it would cost $90k
Double the initial msrp is slightly higher now eh? 😀
I bet the now 52k base wt1 trim next summer has 250 or less miles of range and maybe 450hp.
I bet they will slow walk those trims just like Ford did with the base pro trim lightnings. Despite lying openly about making at least 20% of allocations as base pro trims. Farley and Palmer both claimed this would be the run rate. Yet sales numbers show less than 5% as pros.
Great to hear directly from her. I think they killed it. Front and rear charging option might be nice.
Chief engineer... lol... how much you wanna bet that this will just be another EV-fail like everything so far... this country is so broken at its core. And people are blind to see that but eventually they will have to wake up that it was never a good idea to turn this world upside down.
It’s been designed to use Tesla’s charging network, which is the best currently. Their stalls are mostly back in. The rear camera makes that easier to judge distance than pulling in forward.
Placing the charging port at the front of the vehicle is much more conducive to charging while towing.
Plus, it was designed long before Tesla's bassackwards charging scheme was a consideration..
Lastly if you think you need a camera to drive forward into a charging location, you should not be driving.
As a person who loved the Astro/Safari vans, this vehicle reminds me of how those were built. They were basically a unibody vehicle bolted to a semi-full frame chassis. Great video, awesome truck!
My 3 questions 1. Who would buy a Govt Motors junk. 2. Who can afford outrageous price. 3. What would you drive when it's in the repair shop
Government motors aka estrogen manufacturers incorporated.
1. Me , 2. Me, 3. EVs don't need repairs like ICEs which is why my 2016 Ram Ecodiesel just got lemon lawed after 6 visits to the service center in 4 months.
you guys had questions i needed to know the answer and the lady had answers. very good interview guys. now if i could afford one.
I love hearing her explain how practical this WT trim is for her everyday (non-fleet) life yet she pitches that to only fleet customers.
Non-fleet consumers deserve to buy stripper trucks for 20k less, just like fleets. I can't wait to buy one of these a few years down the road. Gonna look to flip my reservation to some idiot willing to spend 100k on a half-ton replacement or just refund it entirely.
The spare tire release could be a PITA if you need access to it but you’re using the bed, you know as a truck.
so move the shit aside and put the tool in to get the wheel, man. lol
The hard questions would have been "how much are you losing on each truck you sell?" and "how do you make enough to satisfy demand?" Sold out already?
Thats a question we will save for GMs cheif accountant brother. The engineer you want to talk about the engineering. Its spec sheet capabilities, things added or taken away etc. I think harley is losing a lot on livewires as well man. But they make a killing on everything else so it sucks to see all the profits shoveled into the fire
Here is my 4 questions I wanted to ask the engineer?
1) the 4 piece super structure ( front,rear motor/suspension sub assembly, battery pack sub assembly and body subassembly makes me wonder how strong is the connection between the front and rear sub assemblies? Is this the weak link and possible breaking point ? Like the 1980 ford F 100/150 with its lightened frame rails with large holes to lighten the weight?
2) what about rust corrosion?
3) I don’t hear anyone asking about collision survivability and or repair costs?
4) that over thought out spare tire anti theft setup? What a joke! Why not have an in cab release ( cable or maybe electro magnetic ) instead of this poor design?
As always stay safe and healthy!
Ron
Its built so if you bump it agaisnt anything the frame bends
Hey.. Great video but you forgot one of the most important question... What about the ZR2 version?
I’d love to know how confident she is about her truck if you mention having Munro Live tear it apart. 😁
People in the industry know Sandy is a hack who is only known because the Tesla cult loves him. She would not give a shit about what he has to say.
So as the top of the food chain she has access to the work truck when mere mortals don’t. "Look at me" moment! $80k but only if you buy many of them! 🤦🏼♂️ why not be available to all users?
They probably loose money on them.
They lose a fortune if they sell 1 so theyre trying to get rich people to buy a ton and take the burden of dishing them out or soemthing idk man 😂😂😂 idk. Its going to be a 100k truck unless you buy a fleet to gey the price per unit down i guess
i have always gotten double-cab trucks with a 6.5 foot bed, and that's barely long enough for many jobs. So 5'11 isn't going to cut it for a lot of people. i know i know, "you can always get a trailer". but the whole point of a work truck is so you don't have to hook up an 8 foot trailer just to run to the lumber yard for a few things. Ask anyone who actually uses a truck for actual truck stuff, how big should the bed be? the answer will be a minimum 6.5 feet. and yet they keep shrinking bed sizes. while at the same time saying "its a work truck"---really? no it isn't!
How do you mount signal lights and floodlights on the top of the truck? How do you mount a backrack?
She seems more competent, and human, than a certain GM employee (rhymes with Mary).
Is it Harry? I bet it's Harry.
Did she lead? Does it matter?
Gm is being ran into the ground by a woman trying to put women in all the power positions to prove "women can do it too"
I love these guys. TFL is awesome!
Wow. That is one down to earth woman. So great to see that. And she knows what she's doing and proud of what her and her team as she said have build.
Excellent content!
Feels like one of the first times I’ve heard someone compare towing degradation of ice vehicles. Not just drop the subject.
Been waiting for that comment. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that’s a better comparison to gasoline and not quite diesel though. Maybe some TFL science. Lol !
20 percent less range while towing with EV. Wow that was a very optimistic and unrealistic statement by the engineer. In short, EV eats shit when towing. And cost will be a ton more then what she is claiming. I mean Ford said they would have a 40K ev truck. That ended up being 60K base and they are still losing money. THis truck has even bigger batteries then the Ford. Realistically the battery pack on this bad boy will likely cost 25-30K dollars. And weigh more then 3K lbs which creates many problems.
@@HiPlains1 She didn't say it will be 20%, she said it mirrors the loss with ICE, so if your ICE loses 20%, the EV will lose 20%. My loss when towing is 50%, which is in line with what I've seen for other EV towing tests. That's just physics. The biggest problem is that chargers are not configured for vehicles that are towing, so this wouldn't be useful for long towing trips. But for shorter trips, say under 600 miles, where you're only charging once or twice enroute, this could actually work for many people. I stop every 250 miles with my ICE vehicle now anyway.
@@jghall00 It is hilarious to watch people claim that their drive train will magically change the kinetic energy and potential energy used to move the towed object. It's the same energy applied at the wheels. The drive train has a constant efficiency that is the same for towing and not towing so it has to be the same percentage across vehicles. The best that could potentially be done is gearing, but then there would need to be a gear specifically for the use case. Thank you for taking the time to explain to them.
YEAH RIGHT, there is no way a women is a chief engineer of ANYTHING but my sandwich!!! lol
Still single, huh? Wonder why.
@@jamesengland7461 Nope, married with kids
@@user-tg8do2kr4v then you ought to have learned more respect for women by now.
Why were all three "TOUGH" questions snow balls? Ask about her decisions to use a known inefficient Hummer platform. Why she decided to not include cruise control. Why remove the regen paddle?
I don’t think the platform itself is inefficient, simply the Hummer implementation that is. Doesn’t this have the same battery size as the Hummer, but get considerably more range?
Andre dying to ask why it looks like the Avalanche.
No wonder this truck is so weird. The chief engineer wasn’t designed this truck around her own needs. Doesn’t fit with the general public.
She seems very cool. I like the work truck idea - not the price. The momentum isnt natural though as they are saying there is too much to stop it. Its forced
What should piss everybody off the most is that yeah it's forced....but it's not forced because we didn't know the environmental issues were coming because we did. It's forced because we let corporations drag their feet and milk every dollar they could for decades rather than dealing with stuff head on at a reasonable pace.
We citizens will have to pay the price now that half the continent is on fire, water is either flooding or drying up and our own Department of Defense is prepping national defense strategies on how to deal with the crap that is coming our way. Stuff like mass refugee influx from countries in the southern continent who will soon be devastated from stuff like rising and heated waters, just as we get hit by the massive rise of insect borne diseases we never used to get like malaria, zika and dengue (already on the rise now). All because the climate has changed enough that the the southern USA is now considered suitable climate regions for insects that never used to be able to survive here. Oh and don't forget that the crops yields will continue to drop... Do food instability will be fun too.
Yeah it's forced... And yeah I'm pissed about it but I don't know who I'm more pissed at....those in power or the moronic population of US citizens who allowed themselves to be dumbed down and herded like cattle to the point they let a few thousand people destroy not only our nation but likely the future of our kids.
When I think of it in those terms we are getting exactly what we deserve. A great big 🖕
I like motorcycles i kinda worry about these electrics either ramming me full speed, or trying to stop and they cant amd. I get ran down
Can somebody tell me what "engineering" insight, did she supply?
She couldn't or wouldn't even give any specific details about, how it attained its turning radius. She talked more like a marketing rep.
And since she admitted she knew nothing about EVs, before this project I guess that was to be expected?
Gasoline is energy dense, but your gas engine only uses at best about 30% of that fuel for propulsion, the rest is just going out of your exhaust. Its hugely inefficient. Its also why losses when towing are more noticeable in an EV.
Losses while towing in an EV are more noticeable because there aren't reliable fast chargers set up for tow vehicles everywhere. I still plan my route when towing my camper because I prefer roomier truck stops. But I can't go over 250 miles before I need to refuel. It's the same for ICE trucks with smaller gas tanks, but there are gas stations everywhere. In an EV you have to be super cognizant of where you can charge because some areas don't don't have many functioning chargers. I had to limp my rental Tesla to chargers with under 2% remaining twice on my last road trips. I made it, but it sure was uncomfortable.
In cold climates, the gasoline engine becomes much more efficient because that heat energy can be used to heat the cabin where as an electric vehicle heat energy needs to be created by the batteries to warm the cabin and the batteries them selves which is hugely inefficient.
@@MarkSmith-cz3by Many modern EVs employ heat pumps to improve cold weather range. There's still a loss, but this can be mitigated somewhat by preconditioning before departure and enroute to chargers. Unless you road trip in cold weather frequently it's not an issue. Tesla in particular is excellent at this.
It’s closer to 40%.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q It depends on the trailer profile. The bigger the parachute, the bigger the mpg hit.
I am extremely impressively by this clean design! It’s super hard to design something that stands out and this one does! Very smooth and aero look with comfortable design elements!
Excellent interview.... but, were you requested not to ask about battery size?
so how to i access my spare when there is a slide in camper or anything big in the box ?
So besides being super expensive the cost to insure it will be insane as well, With the one piece unibody design, if you get into a fender bender this thing will cost more then the price of a brand new Ford Maverick to fix it.
Don't manufactures learn from the others like Riven and Honda, not to do this.
Fenders bolt on to all body types.
@@jamesengland7461 Look at the truck again, the rear is one huge piece
@@MrSweetHart6976 that's a normal quarter panel for the past 75 years.
Great video
That engineer is awesome she actually uses the truck for what its meant for 👍👍👍
It is great that she actually uses the truck, but what relevant engineering based information did she give?
@@nc3826 not really giving out any information until the full launch of the silverado ev. After that then I think there will be greater details coming out 🤷♂️
@@TheSara200424 to the contrary GM disseminated a plethora of information about the Silverado EV....
So it was disappointing when she completely avoided the question, about what contributed to the tight turn radius?
Even if she would have said she couldn't give Out any information.... It would have been a better response.... iMHO
@@nc3826well i mean if you ask her how thick the body panels are i het you she will tell you they arent
I was hoping he would ask about the one-piece body. You can’t put a flat bed or a work body on this truck. I wonder if they plan to offer a model with a separate bed for contractors and other companies who need their trucks outfitted with utility beds. Maybe a 3/4 ton?
This is a light-ish-half-ton-truck...for her a "full-size"...
Good point. Thats the nice thing about ford. Toyota wont sell you a single cab but ford will so you can get single cabs with flat beds or utility trucks the powerline people set them up with cranes etc. A real work truck 😂
Would be nice just to be able to attach carpet floor mats to the vinyl floor surfaces; Velcro would make it easy/simple.
Always find it interesting when automotive senior execs talk about their second homes, boats, jet skis, etc. when the average buyers can’t even afford just their trucks. Little disconnect in their comms strategy.
It would be nice if they are planning on a front charge port to make charging while towing a bit easier at pull in chargers, should make using the short Tesla charge cables easier also.
Except for during towing, it's in the right place currently for tesla superchargers (rear driver's side).
It's charging port location should be able to handle Tesla's stupidly short charging cables.....
But I agree a front charging port location is ideal for most applications, Including towing, except it's considered more vulnerable in an accident and more complex to install....
I'm looking forward to more pull-through charging stations with overhead covers so it's more like the ICE experience. I think for towing it's going to be necessary, and FWIW, even without towing it's more convenient. With ICE, the filler can be on one side or the other depending on brand so you still have to figure out which side to use, and having the overhead cover is nice when it's raining or if you need shade.
Refueling gas vehicles only takes a couple minutes, so a pulls through design Is much more conducive to its operation....
pull-through charging stations will always be few and far between due to the space and time constraints....
Range extenders and eventually battery swapping.... Make more sense for EVs designed to Tow....
V4 Superchargers cable is 4.5 feet longer than the current ones, so that should help. However I plan to tow a lot and unhooking to back in would suck if it was multiple times a day, so I have been hoping for drive through stalls. Otherwise I will be pulling alongside at night when there aren’t people around and hoping nobody shows up.
I had a minor crash with my Tesla which has radiators in both front corners, so coolant leak and it can’t be driven very far until it gets in the body shop. So I’m fine with the charging in the back. I also have a VW with the charging port on the passenger side and I don’t like it. Driver’s side rear is good for me
Putting only 10,000 miles on a totally new platform truck wouldn’t make me feel all that confident
But hey shes got two houses so at least she has enough juice to gey from one to the other and charge in the garage
When loading heavy skids of bricks, steel or whatever those plastic covers over the spare tire access holes will be gone.
How much is the insurance repair when compared to the ICE and Rivian?
A ton more. I currently own an EV and it's significantly more to insure than any other vehicle I've ever owned. With replacement values higher than their ICE counterparts, electrified trucks will be expensive to repair especially if their is any damage to high voltage battery pack or surrounding support structures. This is why the premiums cost more.
Truck ownership, just a decade ago, was much lower of a financial burden. As these new trucks become available, the buying public will get a sense of the true cost of ownership.
Depends on each vehicle and each individual circumstance
She talks about minimizing “pain points” for customers, but doesn’t mention that the headlights are put in the area of the truck most commonly impacted in parking lots and by animals and debris you’d encounter on the road. Which would be pretty painful to spend $500+ dollars every time someone taps your bumper and busts out your headlight.
So clearly, “pain points” are money makers.
Is it possible to connect the camping trailer to the truck battery?
This truck weighs more than my RAM 2500. It has a range of 450 miles without a load or towing. It can only tow 10000 lbs, yet is an 8000 lbs truck. I guarantee it can not tow 10000 lbs 150 miles. That makes it useless except for people that really do not use trucks. If you are up north, that range will drop dramatically in the cold. And how much does it cost? 60K plus for a base unit?
hahahaha good luck finding one for 60K
Will the EV Work Truck get the Digital Rear view camera?
Does anyone know if next year they are going to open up the trucks to general pipulation and not only justs fleet??
$80k plus for this work truck configuration. Again, $80k plus. Yes, 450 miles of range unloaded. But with limited public charging infrastructure across the continent all the while utilizing the towing capabilities and dismal payload numbers, this $80k plus vehicle is going to be a hard sell to the average farmer, RVer, contractor, and tradesman.
And I wish Andre pushed her more on the payload numbers. It seems like a balance of sufficient payload and acceptable range is a fairy tale. Batteries are heavy as this is the biggest limitation for electrified trucks doing HD truck stuff.
Payload will probably be around 1300 lbs lol. The problem is the 3K lb battery takes away most of the load capacity. All EV trucks have that problem. They are all too damn heavy as it is. Yeah she will avoid the question like the plague. Because the capacity sucks. For the same price point you can buy a HD 2500 and drop a 2K lb pallet of pellets in the bed and the truck will hardly squat at all lol. And if you wanted to, drop another 2 thousand pound pallet. Yeah this 9K lb EV truck has the same capacity as a mid size frontier. That's not even funny. That is sad.
@@HiPlains1 I agree 100%. I believe this push for electrification in work and purpose-built vehicles is very premature and will be short-lived as the "buy-in" from everyday consumers will be very limited. With the current state of battery tech and public infrastructure, these electrified trucks are a novelty item for those with deep pockets and those who want to impress their friends.
Don't get me wrong, electrification is generally good when efficiency is there and the primary purpose is daily commutes to and from work. Just look at the success of GM's Bolt and even bigger, the global powerhouse of Tesla commuter vehicles, especially the more affordable Model 3s and Model Ys.
Unfortunately, there are just too many obstacles at this time for large scale rollout of truck duty electric vehicles; ownership costs, public infrastructure, and battery weight just to name a few. IMO, any carmaker "all-in" on electrified trucks in the short term is playing Russian roulette.
@@HiPlains1 The majority of light duty pickups are mall crawlers. Users who actually use payload capacity will buy a HD truck. Same for those who tow longer distances. This will actually be a boon to the HD truck market, while the light duty market will now grow exponentially. It's brilliant.
@@whythatsfantastic4602 that doesn't represent reality. Most folks RVing use the daily driver 1/2 ton, unless the coach is a big 5th wheel or toy hauler. And with a massive increase in purchase pricing, electric pickups will still be a hard sell to the masses. So many other obstacles for buy-in too like lack of public charging and range limitations. Adoption will be a very long a gradual process...unlike what many EV proponents believe. And I'm saying this as an EV owner myself.
This is gm trying as hard as pissible to make an electric budhet full sized and it costs over twice what the old f150 v8s were back before rhey switched to plastic valve covers and upped the price. And its worse in a lot of ways
Ok so how fast to charge to drive another 450 miles. What's the warranty period. How much does a replacement battery cost. ??
As soon as I heard her explanation for not having the fold down mid gate completely turned me off. Wouldn’t the fold down mid gate be the ultimate work pickup truck, it eliminates the issue everyone has with a pickup. To be able to fit full sheets of plywood or full lengths of lumber flat with the cover closed is game changing. To make you pay over 100k for that feature makes me not even consider buying this. I’m sorry but it’s so stupid, I was so excited when I found out about the fold down mid gate. 😢😢😢
At eighty five hundred pounds this thing's gonna eat tires for lunch
It sure will and how long will it take to charge that massive battery, especially on an L2 charger!!
How can I get that? Without the price mark up? And can I get only get one ?!
What's going on in the barn behind you pretty cool
Change the W to L (LT), add a few colors and improve interior and you have a truck that 90% of Silverado owners want.
Should have named it avalanche!
Does it have a heat pump or electric resistance heat?
Bro its probably both those things at the same time together.
I think I met Nicole in Indy as I was charging my ID4 and she had a Hummer. Just said she was an engineer.
Ask her why they’re already jacking the price up before it even launches.😂😂😂😂
Its all lies. Theyll hail it as great as it fails in every way possible just like venezuala
@7:20 - Work truck in name perhaps but it is better to keep referring to it as Fleet Truck. Every truck can be a work truck but Fleets aren't about the that extra feature life.
Theyre the same thing
@@censored4christ162 In most cases they literally are not. They are models expressly made for business that are not sold to consumers.
All the dirt and wood and stuff need a path to the ground. Can't have a gap between the cab and bed because there's a now a battery in the way
I'm not sure what kind of work truck you can't put a topperor cargo boxes on? I'm sure someone will make some for it but they will be crazy expensive.
Someone said youd probbaly not be able to throw a flat bed on it and thats a big disadvantage.
Have not seen any images or video of one of these with a cap.
I agree a ground-up EV is the best, but Ford was first to market by using an existing platform. Definite compromises, but there’s merit to their decision to do that. Being first is important, but now they will be playing leapfrog moving-forward.
I like a body, on a frame
Would like to see carbon fiber bed. Not bed liner, just entire bed and rear of the truck
Youd like to see it but you wont be willing to pay for it and neither will most people who will ever exist on earth 😂
Here is an interesting question. The undercarriage does not look aerodynamic at all. Aren't Tesla's pretty smooth underneath? If I purchase one of these Silverado EVs and add a carbon fiber panel underneath, I would worry about the batteries or motors overheating.. Please ask them about this next time.
I don't like the spare tire lock. I imagine pressure washing the bed. Or the bed being covered in melting snow.
1400lbs of payload? So less than a Ford Maverick Hybrid... Not a great start.
Yep...just 1400 lbs. And it has a worthless 10k max towing capacity with that payload. Subtract the weight of a family of 4 as well as bed cargo and a WDH and an owner will have about 600 lbs left over for the tongue weight of a camper.
As she stated in the video, GM will have variants that offer more available payload but at a cost of range deduction. So basically, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
I have 3 large dogs, the carpet in my old Excursion is impossible to get clean...
These trucks look pretty badass
When she said she likes to tailgate, ask her if the front camera helps her get close.
Might we obtain a confirmed pricing? The substantial elaboration in responses following the initial posting and subsequent removal of the $30,000 price from Chevy's site suggests that the final cost could potentially surpass that amount. I have a sense that the eventual price will exceed $30,000 by a significant margin.
4wt is 78K (seen here AND is Fleet ONLY) and RST is 105K. that's all that will be available for 2024
@cordellroberson532 lol so much for 39k price tag that was advertised huh. What a bunch of crooked lies.
Hi Guys like the show, from south Africa, one question how much has the house electrical bill increase on electric vehicles
A lot. Charging one is almost like running a welder nonstop. Its not like a lightbulb. Itll be the biggest energy consumer on your bill i bet you. Why do you think tesla wants to sell you more batteries to stick on your wall gotta liquidate our money somehow hoping the trickle coming from the sun helps reduce your 500 dollar a minth light bill because you have all these giant batteries that have to be plugged in. Welding is fun, but the electricity bill isnt.
Is there a snow plow package?
This was a better interview to a degree, I think this was a missed chance to ask better "Tough questions". Too bad the guys seem too nervous when speaking to this lady.
Speaking of tough questions, I see some great questions by the folks in the comments here.
I wish they went deeper when Andre mentioned the comparison number of "1 gallon of fuel is equal to 33 KWhrs" and if you all noticed, the lady crossed her arms in a defensive mode. Those are tough questions, not what you named your truck!
It would be great for GM and all manufacturers to share comparisons on the costs savings, including gas/electric (home and commercial) repairs, insurance, etc (I know this is cover by individuals, but the manufacturers should be more upfront with it!)
Question, if I'm one of the 175K that put in for a reservation and the cheapest WT doesn't make it out, am I forced to buy the WT3 or WT4? Is that the way to push up price on the "cheaper model" on 2025? When will the WT1 be available? and how much?
Come on guys!
1wt? 2025, 2026. only 2 models for 2024. 4WT and RST
What about a slide in camper ?
I still want to know how big the battery is?
Liked her. Seems genuine
Spare tire idea is great until you have shovel snow or dirt out the back and snap them....
450 miles to a charge but how much if your pulling a trailer a certain lightning has issues with that. a 5'11 bed is cute but a real work truck needs to have a mandatory 8 foot bed
One thing GM has is experience in testing new vehicles and validating functionality. 450 mile range is really throwing down the cauntlet.
How far does an f150 v8 go
Considering the $80k base msrp for a work truck, I do not think the industry is worried.
Did u 2 call each other before dressing. LOL!
It’s the rich client/owner that buys this truck, not the actual builder/trades as a crew truck that need affordable and can tow/haul… and get it dirty
She’s a bit cocky before towing and real truck reviews come out and people are charging these real world. That 176 mile each way trip goes to hell with even a small utility trailer loaded up - same energy degradation sure, but what’s the refill and charging station accommodation with a trailer in tow