50$ DIY 3D print Filament Extruder to Mini Shredder ; Filament Makers 2 in 1 machine Part2
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- čas přidán 19. 03. 2021
- This is the lowest cost and most basic filament extruder,
The cost of the parts (Extruder body) shown at the beginning of the video is about $50,
They come from mass-produced products, so they are much cheaper than making one individually.
I used a stainless steel water pipe with a diameter of 25MM and a wood drill with a diameter of 20MM
But it still takes a lot of time and tools to deal with and modify them.
The parts shown at the beginning of the video are all necessary.
This is the result I got after many attempts.
Missing or changing the structure will cause problems.
This extruder cannot accurately control the diameter of the filament, it will jump between 1.75+-0.1MM, but it can still be used for 3D printing.
Especially when printing large parts, it is difficult to find a significant difference between it and the purchased filament.
But the cost of printing will be greatly reduced, and the plastic pellets only cost about US$2 per kilogram.
If you often need to print large parts or models that do not require high accuracy, it is very worthwhile to make it.
If you buy 50 kilograms of filament + shipping costs $1,000, then it only costs $100 to make the filament at home, which can save more than $800 of the cost.
I have used it to make 25 kilograms of filament for the production of large decorations.
I have found a simple and low-cost way to improve the accuracy of filament diameter, if you want to know, please subscribe to my channel
If you want to buy some parts in this video, you can check my website
diychen.net/
www.ebay.com/usr/diychen.xyz
3D printed STL file of the cooling water sink
www.thingiverse.com/thing:480...
Dial indicator bracket
www.thingiverse.com/thing:483... - Jak na to + styl
There is no way anyone can make this for $50, but it was nice to watch how it's done.
In China yes 😁😁😁
Get it for cheap with Ali baba prime
I agree
For 150/200 $ I would be more than happy to build the whole kit.
@@theangelmen the shredder alone is $350
As an extrusion operator, operating machines at x20 the scale, this is very impressive.
as the guy that makes the plastic pellets your machines take... its not so impressive... its just a miniaturized version of an italian machine i run everyday...
@@angelusmortis3256 as the guy that uses an ender three he bought for half price at micro center, I think I’ve lost this cock measuring contest.
You forgot a zero, and half the parts. Even on your own website, the absolute basics add up to over $500.
Not if you check the local dump, and scrap yards, and junk yards bud.. if your on a budget, you budget smarter than blowing 550 at home depot.
@@duellyiamgemini3857 I've not seen a pick-your own scrapyard (other than automotive ones) in the US since the mid-'70s (and I've looked). They seem to be a myth of TV shows anymore. As to a dump, that's where garbage goes. They don't let the public in there as it's hazardous, not to mention the unbelievable stench.
That said, it'd be hard to believe you could get such specialized equipment from any scrapyard. It's not like that chopper/shredder is from a paper-shredder, that's just not consumer-grade equipment. If there is one there, it's likely shot as that's not something that someone is just going to toss out. Good luck even finding one on aliexpress. The best you could hope for is military surplus, and that's still going to cost far more than the quoted $50.
Plus, he's not pointing to Home Depot, he's pointing to _his_own_website_ where he sells the stuff for literally more than 10 times what he claims it would cost. His _cheapest_ chopper option (without motor or gearbox) is nearly 4x the total build cost he quotes! All of his gearbox options are well over $50, by themselves. Add to that the sales-pitch in the description section and the whole thing is _extremely_ misleading (being very kind here).
ALL of the equipment in the video is brand new, even the dual-drive extruder shown at the end (that type tends to chew itself up pretty quickly). This, in itself, proves that the video's title and description is misleading. He didn't build it for $50, not even at wholesale prices. Not even close.
There have been many people who have tried this and very few demonstrations of anything usable, and all of the ones I've seen have cost _many_ hundreds of dollars, and that's just the for the extruder assembly (not the shredder).
On top of all that, the entire basis of the video as depicted in the title and thumbnail (and his sales-pitch in the description) is recovery of used plastic, yet he uses brand new pellets to demonstrate extruding filament. If this assembly actually worked, he'd be feeding the plastic he shredded into it. Especially considering that pellets cost >10 times what he claims (unless you're buying in industrial quantities).
I don't know why you mentioned Home Depot. If you even could find all of this stuff at Home Depot (which you can't), it'd cost you _way_more_ than $550.
@@glabifrons 1st off. pick apart*, and scrap yard, are not the same. maybe my punctuation was off. as well as idk what you're talking about, born 1990. but just cause you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't their.
dump- one mans trash, is another mans treasure. and yes they do.. just take a piece of trash with you.... lmfao... no one cares if your dumpster diving bro.
and the smell?? bro you crying about the price, now you crying about something you don't even smell yet* XD you funny guy.
lmao bro you would be surprised what people throw away that is perfectly fine or even brand new. i suggest one near a rich neighborhood.
no one said he got the mat's overnight. bargain shopping isn't a department at Walmart. they call it clearance.
in the case of him selling it well---- shit happens people lie idk what you want from us brody.
just remember salt is bad for you're blood pressure. so check your attitude, and remember you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
the fact you thought about the level of respect in this comment means that wasn't the case at all. that's just like the dude saying 50 bucks XD.
but now I must agree with you. he is full of horse sh**.
and false in many representations, and descriptions. as well as his own price listings.
it's called the sales pitch. kind of like that bomb-looking hamburger at Mcy D'z. that's normally the case in the sale's pitch of all product's but mine XD
Not yet available. if you wanted to know.
if you want to get mad about something - did you know 70% of each dollar goes to taxes in America, and that's not including state tax.
i will leave this conversation now, stating, I am an asshole. takes one to know one.
the world is fucked up.
@@glabifrons if we bitch, moan, and complain. we get distracted. move forward..
as for me i got nothing going on right now and wanted to verbally dance.;P
@@duellyiamgemini3857 :) I'm hoping you can point me to a salvage-yard chain that would have such equipment. That, and I like to "talk" a lot. :^D
I really love people’s ingenuity, or simply Mcguyvering things.
Great job on this. Thanks for sharing. You did an excellent job communicating with no audio at all. Hopefully I'll see more from you.
you've made a proper miniature extruder. looks just like the gigantic ones at work only tiny.
Cost me €40 ($55) for the un-threaded barrel on it's own. This would cost well over $1000 in total, which equals to 50 new rolls of filament. But if using recycled plastic and the machine produced filament that does not exceed 1.80mm then this is a game changer. That is my plan. Nice extruder though...
1000? I agree it's way more than $50 unless you have half that stuff just laying around but 1000 is about 5X more than I would expect to complete it for myself (I would do it wihtout the crusher, and the right angle gear box)
@@mlw19mlw91 it's about $500 on his website alone for the crusher and extruder. not with anything else.
don't think you used what he said. He used a common thin walled water pipe like used in a shower, about $0.90 in China.
So I opened my drawer into which I drop any stuff that might one day be useful, and, would you believe it, I had everything I needed to follow this video and build the machine.
Excellent video thanks for your time and share your knowledge
Hi Chen
I liked your project very much. Good luck.
This insane! Nice made
this machine is perfect thanks for the video
This is really cool, Interested to see if it can be made more accurate and if it can be ran forever without failing.
It's also great for the environment because you can reuse those plastic spools and don't have to always throw them away.
Good work!
Great work ✅
Nice machine. Nice to not have silly music too. 👍
Nice video, thanks for sharing it :)
I know the full-scale extruders usually use water baths. but with the extrusion (filament) being so thin, it's going to cool pretty quickly even without water. Perhaps even misting or a cool breeze will be enough to cool the plastic.
"50$ DIY " - I suppose that his more like 300$... Unless you can really show the BOM cost and sourcing. Regardless - nice build!
still a good price honestly.
Dunno, the author seems to be Asian, in which case it may be that cheap to get all the parts for them.
But all together, the system, even at 300 would be 1/10th of any commercially available ones.
Heil CCP heil slave labor
Parts are from china
Actually 80% of part are 3d printed.. I mean , rhe bath, the roller mechanism, the extruder puller can also be printed , the feeder , the rolling mechanism the stand for extruder , you onle need to pay for the heater , the shneck , the tube and a screw with a hall!
Great job 👍
Still. Pretty cool. A labor of love, because it is still more cost effective to buy filament.
this is really cool!
Отличная штука. С таким приспособлением мы за пластиковые отходы платить начнём 👍👍👍.
So cool
why you build a shredder and then extrude "bought" pellets ?
Fascinating.
amazing, amazing, NASA is waiting for you
wow it is cool, respect.
Impressive.
Thank you!
I love the project! Where is the part 1?
Idk how you salvaged these parts for 50$ but the design is impressive. I saw someone else using water cooling for their design
he said it ended up being a huge headache. How did it go for you? Do you dry the filament before use?
by the way you can make the filment roller move back and forth ( so the motor will move the roller rotationally and back and forth ) with simple machanism to wind the filment accuratly in roll
Great video at 100x
Great 👍
เยี่ยมครับ 👍
Really cool design if you want better control extrude with your nozzle pointed towards Earth. You wouldn't be able to use your sink if you did that but you're tolerance would not jump around as much. The only way we can extrude pla with the filastruder
start of the new era)
Amazing
But no matter how cheap accessories we get cost will exceed 200$
기술이 대단하십니다
All this needs now is a microcontroller to automate a lot of the process!
I bet the accuracy would get much lower with that. 0.2mm is a lot tbh! It'd clog a lot of hotends
Yeah that will, it will almost even smash up on the extruder size too. Now I know how they made those dozen rolls I bought that are completely unusable varying from 1.45 to 2.05 (+-.25), and it absolutely will clog every time it gets to the wide part, and the thin part many extruders won't grip anymore (and I run double springs on my extruders, it physically won't allow that much travel unless you swap the idler pulley to a flat bearing).
PID tuned I can see this work out well enough, although it looks like it has too many variables, the input should be fixed screw speed and just regulate the output stepper (which is easy to calculate since now you have a known diameter off x current speed you can easily compute your new ideal speed and am Arduino will have no problem adjusting that dozens of times per second with some under-shoot on purpose in your equation, although a proper PID equation isn't that crazy either).
Also the layers are horrible, no layer adhesion at the thin sections and horrific globbing for thin parts when it gets to thick filament so its very weak and poor dimensional accuracy even when it doesn't jam.
I had a project that did something like this. It's not nearly as easy to setup as he makes it seem (as most of these types of things are). Sure it looks impressive, but it's completely unusable. You really want a light based measuring control loop. A mechanical one doesn't cut it. The amount of effort that goes into making a filament with a +/- 0.05mm is stupidly hard using consumer grade stuff. I've seen the industrial machines. They're shockingly cheap for what they are, but outside the reach of almost any hobbyist. Also no guided winding? Weak sauce.
If you did this "properly", the cost will be well north of $500. Mine was just shy of $1000 and that was with significant cost savings taken into account.
Hi. thank you for your video. Can you please tell me why do you cool the Filament with the Water and not with the Air?
Роман, что такое законно а что такое незаконно определяется в наших условиях не законами и сограшениями, а получается что силой.... Кто сильнее, тот и прав... Думаю вэтом контексте все развивается, и будет развиваться.
Already put, you can make a full plastic injection mold machine. Is the same principle but adding a frame structure with the mold carrier (and the aluminum mold itself) and ejector pins mechanism (either pneumatic or servo driven).
Need to accurately control The amount going out that is why shogun injection molding works also the pressure is to high
Необходимо установить измерение диаметра нити с функцией фиксации минимального и максимального значений. В этом случае нет необходимости в постоянном контроле качества продукции. После намотки бобины проверяем значения min/max и если они не выходили за допустимые нормы - убираем на склад для дальнейшего применения.
Just an idea in the cooling process since we're trying to achieve atleast .02 error in the diameter of the final product why not run it while its considerably hot into a bowden tubing then while it runs thru the tubing run it on running water to cool it off to its size, since the tubing itself is slippery enough to to slide the filament, heat resistant since it work perfectly even its use is to run thru filaments close to heat, it cost less since these tubes are already marketed. Take note that bowden tubes despite flexible are quite tough and for over heating or melting issues its safe to say to extend the end nozzle enough to reach working temperature a few degrees lower.
That could work well on lower melt point filaments like PLA, good idea :)
Need to run some calcs on plastic shrinkage and see what the actual diameter of the Bowden tubing is
Nice to meet you, I saw your video of the filament machine, you are a genius, I congratulate you.
I wonder if you could make a machine of this style, but only the injection part without the filament part is to make small production plastic parts in an aluminum mold.
If you can please tell me how much would it cost?
Did you drill a hole in the bottom metal part of the diatom spray gun for the pipe to go out the back? They do not look like they come with holes on both sides. Also it would be nice to know the sizes and specifics on each part if you wanted to build it. A lot of this looks to be based on the Lyman filament extruder though and you can find plans for that.
It would be nice if they had a kit to put together.. Think of it this way as long as people throw away plastic you will never be out of filament
Parabéns!!!!!!!!!! Great Work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi there, nice device, but could you please share a scheme or another video how to wire all these electic stuff. I saw in the previous videos a screenshot and chip names, but it would be perfect to get a bit more details what wires where to connect. Thanks in advance.
Thank God I found a massive auger, heating collars and a big motor for free, otherwise hitting the 50 buck point would have been tricky
it's just a drill bit
You have skills. Where to get the filament diameter sensor? Is there going to be a high accuracy v2?
I would appreciate the part lists with dimension information so that we can do the same task..
Right!?!?! Like how dare you post DIY for "x" amount and then include none of the files or parts!!!!! Heck outta here.
Hi.
If I purchase the extruder parts, could you provide the BOM, manual documents?
It would be nice if you could upload a video of assembling the extruder on CZcams.
What would be the price for a full kit like you used in that video?
Thank you.
I'm trying to make something like your project. I'm still on the motor control side. The gear reduction alone is going to be more expansive of 50 euros. But, it's ok. Wich tipe of couplings are you using? Are they custom made parts, or are they commercially available? Are you going to make a commercial kit?
Hello, if possible, the name of the scarf that supplies the machine with heat, thank you
when will you have some more available on your website?
How much torque do you need for the shredder and the extruder? or how much torque generates the reduction gearbox? I saw videos from other youtuber making a worm gearbox and it generates a lot of torque with a 12v motor
hey, could you send a BOM where the parts you used are listed?
Can i see power supply connection? İ have a 3 heat indicator, but what i could after thermocouple connect? How will electricity come to the LED indicator?
The water cooling design is ingenious
The drill bit alone is $60 what the u know! It is very nice
I wonder if there might be some easy way to "fine tune" the filament diameter after it has been extruded...
I love how you built the machine but can you tell us where you get the parts and the parts number
Hi, will the complete kit be avaiable to buy?
From his website: 3D printing filament extruder module | $149 :(
Una pregunta donde venden este equipo me interesa
What nozzle diameter did you have on this setup? Is that arround 3mm hole?
this is a GREAT project. Question about cooling water. Is this a problem with hygroscopic polymers? Would a cold air jet be as effective?
They use it in industrial uses because water cools faster and allows the plastic to retain the size in tighter tolerances, but they dry it after wards anyway
Part of ensuring accurate filament diameter will be to apply tension to the soft filament. If it's cooled too much, the filament might be too hard to draw. I wonder what would happen if the fresh filament was 'drawn' through a 1.75mm draw plate? @@techdiyer5290
i wonder if it works for petg too
Pid loop with motor speed and temps for size?
good work, how i can get the same heat element please
3d printers should come with recycling systems
Hundreds of dollars of extra costs, often rather unreliable, low diameter accuracy, total costs of filament being higher than what you can buy with much lower quality. overall an absolutely useless idea
If you are worried about the amount of filament wasted in supports and failed prints, you have to know that such a recycling system would cost you probably more than the printer itself and the recycled filament would cost you much, much more in electricity power and time than the filament you buy in a shop and it will be of worse quality too. But if you are worried about the ecological impact of all that filament wasted, you can collect all of it in a bag where you only throw PLA (or whatever kind of filament you use) and then take it to a recycling site where they will produce recycled filament with proper diameter at a much lower cost. It is not worth the effort and cost of home recycling it into new filament. Still, you can reuse it as a filling or melt it into silicon molds to make new pieces or figures or whatever.
@@TheArtofWalls Thanks
wow supr
Screw will touch the barrel and metal dust present in filament.
hi sir can you please tell me what is the difference of using air or water cooling system ?
Great job👍🏻 i want where i can buy its , thank you
I would read out the diameter with an Arduino or Raspi and adjust the motor speed with it.
В охладителе можно сделать вертикальные прорези, дрочиться с отверстиями там нет необходимости.
I'm sorry but I have to give it a thumbs down due to the misleading $50.
Other than that it seems like a nice build.
How to maintain constant temperature of water the change in temparature of that water might effect the filament ?
Even how great this is, i just can't seem to find all these parts in my backyard. I think to pull this off i need to spend quite a bit more then 50$.
can i get a full BOM or write up of assembly
you can buy the kit ont it's website
can you tell me how to make a measuring device for the filament? 😊
You need a heatbreak in connection between heatpipe and bunker. Try some hard wood like oak.
and which heating element is put on an aluminum pipe and connected to a thermostat
I'm having hard time to believe the cost is that low
I think you should move the water right next to the output of the extruder in order to solidify it right from the source and not let it bend under it's own weight
tem a venda ainda.
How to make it for 50$… all you need is some screws, some wires, scrap worth 500$ fitting perfectly together and some motivation😇.
Nevertheless the result is amazing^^
Hi Chen, can you provide the types of the bearings and length meter you used?
7201 or 6201
you cooled it by running it in water? isnt that counter productive since all fillaments needs to be dry as possible sans moisture?
hi sir i'am a mechanical engineering student why do you use water bath for cooling and why it's a small tank ? please i need your answer for my research
Dial gauge is better to use you can see long harmonics on the extrusion...
Nice build,or you can choose FLD25 as a small lab filament extrude machine from ACC machinery.Its cost 7500USD and can extrude 3-5kg per hour with tolerance 0.03mm.
A compression screw would greatly improve that design.
Do you sell a kit with all the parts or have a list?
It's a kit
would be nice if there was some.... sound but nice machine