Submersible Well Pump Installation on WellHose Drop Pipe. Great for DIY applications!
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In This Video I Provide A Follow Along / How to Guide to installing a Submersible Well Pump Paired with a Easy to Use WellHose drop pipe.
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There is not one on CZcams that we have respected more than you. That is saying a lot. My question is why would you mess with perfection? How do you know that what you're using now is no better than duck tape? We've never seen you use the shrink tubing. How do you know that's not any better than Dr. Ray in the long run? Do you plan on coming out and checking the well once a year to see how it's holding up? I feel angry at you right now. This is Peggy not Tom. I have supported you With every video going back to the very beginning. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
Merry Christmas Peggy! May you get all you deserve this year!
Very informative video young man , well done!
Looks like it works great but i think the wheel pull thing could have used some large circle spacers next to the rubber wheel to prevent the wire from jumping track and getting jammed/damaged on the cross bolt.
Have a great day
great idea. no sticks of pvc/ faster and easier
Greetings from Montana. The items you sent me worked out great. Pump install went smooth.
I like your videos clear out in the California Wine Country.
My story .... I inherited my parents ranch. Barely surviving on 300 gallons of quickly drying up spring water. My ancestors refused to """waste money """ going for a """Dry hole""" well...........
I hit a whopper 45 gallons a minute. Now Pumping 50,000 gal a day with static level constant at 83 feet. Whereas pump is set at 360 feet. I cried for hours after it was drilled looking into the sky.. .
That pump with the 3 wings on looks like a torpedo ! Great video as usual Thanks
I have Wellhose on my pump in my well. Works great. 😎
I've had a few of my Subscribers use it with great success. Very simple to install
thank you for posting your comment. I just got off the phone with one of their engineers and we are ordering the 1" hose from them!
I now see the carrot that all the drillers in my area use... The local drillers all only use PVC drop pipe for job security, knowing most DIYers won't attempt pulling PVC drop pipe because it requires a lifting mechanism/crane.
Another awesome video!!
This stuff is literally lay-flat hose sized down. Been using that stuff on construction sites for 20 years lol. Great for pumping out dig sites and dugouts.
Cool. I like innovation. Let see if it hold up.
I ordered their "wheel tool" a week ago - we'll see how it goes with 1.25" poly this weekend!
A solution in search of a problem... Black roll pipe for the win.
Was about to buy some of this hose. Would be great for tests. The 1" alone was $517 for 100'.... Ima try some sump pump hose. That stuff is next to nothing. I just needed the idea!
Good to see you using heat shrinks.
That help eda lot thanks
I think that’s going to be a game changer. 👍
I know that it is mainly a demo of the new pipe however I would have put a safety line on it. Long term a safety line is highly recommended and including it in the demo would reinforce this. Consider how a fire hose reacts when pressure cycling and the possibility of chaffing.
Here in Australia we use a similar product called Flexibore made here by Crusader hose with stainless steel hose ends excellent product. Great videos.
Makes sense from a shipping perspective to get it to a home owner. But some comments are saying its 5x the cost of regular poly-tube drop pipe. I've pulled up 275' of poly-tube class 200 and it's no big deal. So yeah if its that much I don't really see the benefit
I live in the Bahamas our ground consists of lime stone. My Well is 26 feet deep and I have water at 6 foot.
Like to see how it will hold up to a stuck pump , no wire guards.
I see a lot of comments on no rope , has anyone used the rope to pull the pump , 42 years I have not . Also the rope is usually rotted by the time you pull the pump .
Great video though thanks for sharing. 👍
The rope always ALWAYS falls & can trap a pump. It's just a mental Saftey item that doesn't work! But this well hose has a 6000-11,000lb tensile strength, way beyond poly & pvc pull back limits so I don't see it breaking. My only concern in a rock well is wire Chaffing, but many wells are 4"-5" pvc screen lined & I believe this is perfect for those well applications bc the wire can life for decades in the pvc screen. In my opinion it's apples to apples, just slightly more expensive pipe but extremely simple to install. If your constantly dealing with pump failure due to sand/sediment or even lightning strikes, this pipe is the best to us bc of the quick pump change out.
I am amazed that they don't seem to use wire rope, nylon rope to lower the pump in the US.
I was told by the drilling guys here in New Zealand that the pump should NEVER be hanging on the water pipe.
I agree.
he explains it in some video, the ropes are weaker than the pipe and its connections.
@@pubcollize It all depends what rope you use. I feel more comfortable dropping my pump 55m in the ground with an extra backup. I have ordered my my pump with 60m cable, saves me from making a cable connection.
Cold PVC is extremely brittle....NEVER install a pump without nylon rope...the attach point is literally ON THE PUMP!!!
@@imtheonevanhalen1557 We don't use PVC for drinking water water at all. I have read some articles from the US in which PVC is not in the best light especially the release of nasty chemicals into the water when primer/glue or heat is applied to it.
Great info Thanks! My well is 400 ft. It is coming up on 22 years old, still works fine but I'm thinking about buying everything I'll need when it goes. I think it's a 1hp 5gpm pump. Your videos give me the confidence that I can definitely do the job myself. Can 2 pieces of Wellhose be spliced together to reach that far? Or just reuse the black roll pipe?
It surprises me that you don’t need a pitless adapter on your wells. All the wells on my property have pitless adapters at 8 feet and that adds another level of complexity to servicing them. I would love to see how your company deals with them.
I don’t know I would have some reserve about that hose it would be easy to use but roll pipe has to be stronger and more durable being pulled up out of well dragging on side of well etc as pump comes up seems like more calculations and time
Is the water able to drain out of the hose? Once the hose is full, I’d imagine it will be pretty heavy to pull out if it is deep enough
Yes it's quite heavy (1" pipe would be the easiest to deal with). But I removed the pump check valve so it would drain back, since it's only a test pump.
That's interesting but also I wonder how long it actually holds up if you were to use it permanently... And it seems like there are many more places you could make a mistake and installation such as mismeasuring your slack
At 4-5 times the cost of poly pipe, it's gonna be a tough sale 🤔
You save that doing it DIY not paying a company to do the work.
Designed for the homeowner
The weird part is, poly is easy to pull for a DIYer. I maintain my own wells and pull 200 ft of 1.25" poly no problem by myself. Most the time I just use my lawnmower but I've also done it by hand, which sucks, but its not like I need to change pumps that often. Nothing quite as fun as wrangling a heavy, slimy, 200ft snake. Really tests your grip strength.
@@jareddory2155The Poly pipe might be harder to work with but I bet I could find a few friends willing to come help for a couple pizzas and a case of beer or soda... Which is probably cheaper than the cost difference
I have a quick question if you would be so kind to answer it for me. My low pressure cutout switch is tripping the breaker. I replaced it and it continued to trip. I seen on one of your videos to clamp a voltage meter to the hot wire going to the pump and should read between 7-9 amps if pump was good. Mine was 16-32 amps. I replaced the submersible pump and tried to start and keeps throwing breaker and when it does it sparks on pressure switch. Replaced pressure switch again and still flips breaker after 1 minute or so. I can hear pump kick on but never builds any pressure. Thanks for your help
Do you know what voltage your system is running? And what size pump motor you have?
32amps at start up & 16 run amps sounds like a 2-3hp or a big 120v pump.
You might have 1 wire going down the well to the pump that has rubbed off the jacket and exposed the copper core. I have a Shorts video that shows you how to perform that test.
Sounds like you have the wrong voltage being applied or a wire failure somewhere in the system (if your pump is new)
Newbie question: can I tie a plumbob on a 300ft tape measure tape to locate bottom and static level?
Yes, that's how I do it
Id be concerned about the wires chaffing over time with being secured so far apart. I guess it better be easier to pull out if youre doing it more often.
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Just installed a new pump, pressure tank and fittings. I can only get like 10 psi. I had to use a couple of pvc fittings and one has a small leak. What might be wrong? I have a 1/2 hp pump. I’m just confused.
Is this well hose is this for temporary use or permanent? Reason I'm asking is because I have a camp on lake George in NY. We pump water out of the lake. I use 1" black plastic tubing which has tendency to bend or kink when no we pull it out or put it in the lake. This well pipe looks interesting.
Hi Thomas
The WellHose is a permanent solution.
Cheers
Are those shrink tubes fully water proof? We use a resin filled connection for wells here in Ireland.
Those are probably the type that have a hot glue like material inside of them that melts as you heat it. It's done being heated when the inside goo is slightly pressured out.
@@arthurr8670 They are very quick and easy compared to the resin filled plastic torpedo-shaped joiner I've used. I've got to make the electrical join using a connector. Then clamp on the plastic container. Mix the resin by messaging the plastic bag that contains it. Then slowly pour into a hole in the plastic fitting, being very careful to avoid the formation of any air bubbles.
I think my biggest concern would be durability over the long term. I checked the site and they have a 10 year warranty, but will it last for 20 or more years. Also how much does the hose elongate over time. Five percent might be enough for the intial install, but is it enough for many years of use.
5% can easily become more over the years.
And there are variables like the incremental increase of stretching with depth of the well due to its own weight and the increasing weight of the water, plus the weight of the pump since no extra wire is used.
No tape or dope on that coupling
I'm really surprised that flattened hose/tape opened up enough to carry water upwards. I guess it works like drip tape for Irrigation which I've installed miles of over the years. I could also definitely see it getting chewed up by the top edge of the well casing unless you use that wheel tool to keep it away from the casing. Flexible roll pipe seems more reliable with less possibility of getting chewed up.
@@damonhill4909 There's many variations of the same thing to release water at the bottom of the drop pipe water column with a breakable internal plug. Search "FLEXIBORE Break Off Plug" they have the better animation of this action, while "oroflex well" at 4-5 minutes into the Kuriyama sales presentation describes yet another variation. Also there is "How to replace your Breakoff Plug" with a practical demo of some industrial sized check valve and the Hose Systems Inc version of this, which they do sell separate as an add-on to any existing system. The requirement for this is that the discharge diameter is large and straight enough to reliably get an impact weight down to the location of the fitting, not necessarily that it is a hose product.
You make it look way too easy !
An expert always makes things look easy
No nylon rope on that pump?
Hi Glenn
Yes, no nylon rope necessary.
WellHose is made with High-Tenacity Polyester which has an initial stretch but no further stretch or creep over time. A pump installed on WellHose won't even get to 50% of the tensile strength of the WellHose.
Cheers
Having seen a ton of glass-filled nylon failures due to long exposure in wet conditions in my industry,....um, no. Not worth the fifty cents you save. As to the rest, seems more like reinventing the wheel with very little benefit. It's not like a person is dropping and/or pulling a pump every day or even year so the extra cost improves maybe one hour of work over the life of the well vs using old tried and true standard methods. Not enough bang for the buck in most cases.
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Q what colors on wire to wires on pump? 220 v?
I wonder how "way go " couplings on wire splice would work instead of stacons ?
I think I'd make a roughly 24" zig zag of wire above the pump that can easily be pull out if the hose stretches over time, I doubt anyone knows how long that hose will be in 10-20 years. Some tight wad May put a 600' deep pump on 1" hose, with a 5hp pump FROM the 1950's they found nos, putting a heavy load on a small hose , the hose could go in 75' off the bottom, and 10 years later start picking up silt off the bottom. Exaggerated sure, but putting a 2-3' zig zag of wire at the top and bottom maybe midway couldn't hurt. Seems they would make better straps also. A double sided stretchy zip tie like thing would be cool. About
1/2""- 1" wide, with a normal but wider zip tie, like the 3'-4' long zip ties but only 6"long for the wire. Then a zip tie where it is either partly made from something like the stretchy hose they make slingshots from. Or has a place to loop through it. Leaving a snug fitting tie. That can stretch 1-1.5" without breaking even a plastic coated spring would be ok. It a stainless spring inside a tube. There is 1000's of other ways. The plastic straps just look cheap and not the easiest/fastest way to tie it, someone will probably wrap Teflon tape around it, follow that with electrical tape. So it can slide on the hose and the sticky isn't attaching the wire to the hose. Or the tape to either one. But at the end of the day, it's just a hose and a wire in a hole in the ground no one can see!
✌️🙈👍 Still think I'd put extra 6' of wire per 150' over what they say.
This won't work for my application.
Hi Thomas.
Yes, as discussed, you are sucking water up and need a semi-rigid hose for that application.
Cheers
Yes Thank you. @@WellHose
$850 for 200' of 1" thats way pricey .No thanks
Not worth it IMHO! More than 10 times the cost of a HDPE drop pipe in my location (same diameter, same length with the same fittings). Also there is a severe limitation on depths.
no reason to not use the ole reliable poly pipe. No need for innovation
Some well drillers may have said the same thing when going from steel pipe to pvc or from pvc to polypipe.
Ok, enough of these water wells. Let's drill some 🛢 oil wells😂🥳🥸👍
Hell yeah, let's use up that thousand feet and keep doing :)