Was the Big Bang the Beginning? Reimagining Time in a Cyclic Universe

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
  • A universe that continually expands has long been the dominant cosmological framework. But a universe that undergoes cycles of expansion and contraction, perhaps for all time, has recently been analyzed mathematically, and its proponents claim that it provides a more convincing cosmological paradigm. Join leaders of this renegade approach as they make the case for a new kind of cosmology that reimagines time.
    The Big Ideas Series is supported in part by the John Templeton Foundation.
    Participants:
    Peter Galison
    Anna Ijjas
    Paul Steinhardt
    Moderator:
    Brian Greene
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    00:00 - Introduction
    04:08 - Brian Greene Welcome
    07:20 - The human urge to understand origins
    15:39 - Early issues of the big bang
    27:10 - The flatness problem
    35:15 - If not the big bang what else could have happened?
    40:44 - Resolving the problems of cyclic cosmology
    54:30 - cyclic cosmology simulation
    1:05:40 - How reliable are the results?
    1:17: 10 - Does expanding space eventually contract?
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  • @garypuckettmuse
    @garypuckettmuse Před měsícem +33

    Dr Greene makes it look so easy and relaxed meanwhile he's constantly calibrating and recalibrating the conversation for pacing, clarity, inclusion of the whole panel and overall cohesiveness. He's just an unbelievably good host and, of course, always on top of the material. Awesome presenter.

    • @GianniCostanzi
      @GianniCostanzi Před 8 dny

      You’re definitely right, Greene is great, I loved his books and I love these videos

  • @vuurdraak-
    @vuurdraak- Před měsícem +6

    Hi another Anna here, thanks for telling this amazing story Anna, and the other people in the video :D

  • @rachel_rexxx
    @rachel_rexxx Před 4 měsíci +13

    These talks are great, thanks for putting them out for free

  • @hochathanfire0001
    @hochathanfire0001 Před 4 měsíci +14

    " We should all work on something that is wrong." - Anna Ijjas. I am taking this to the bank 😤.

  • @JamaaLKellbass
    @JamaaLKellbass Před 4 měsíci +13

    first goes like, then i watch. brian never dissapoints. never

  • @erichodge567
    @erichodge567 Před 4 měsíci +52

    This was one of the best, even most important programs yet from the WSF. Thanks for letting us eavesdrop on great ideas.

    • @LordLOC
      @LordLOC Před 4 měsíci +7

      Someone linked this to me because they know I love Astronomy and Physics (and studied Quantum Physics and Mechanics in college in the 90s) but in the "comment" they left for me, basically said "look at these so-called scientists trying to undo what god created by making it all about science which can never be proven" and I just face palmed.

    • @spiralsun1
      @spiralsun1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      They only have half the story. Not even half… maybe some day someone will actually listen to what I am saying and understand how everything works. Then we won’t have to die so much.

    • @erichodge567
      @erichodge567 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@spiralsun1 , by all means, let us hear you!

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It is the best and important program . It shows the flawed thinking . Currently .

    • @clivejenkins4033
      @clivejenkins4033 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@spiralsun1listen to you? Who are you and what is your theory,

  • @sharinglanguage
    @sharinglanguage Před 4 měsíci +21

    Fantastic.Thank you so much for organising this festival, and for its live broadcadting. I have found this conversation particularly interesting.

  • @memegazer
    @memegazer Před 4 měsíci +8

    Thanks for the vid and engagement.
    Great channel for exploring

  • @glambor1
    @glambor1 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Very nice discussion. Thank you! 👏👏👏

  • @steliosp1770
    @steliosp1770 Před 4 měsíci +5

    incredible discussion about the bleeding edge of modern physics and cosmology.

  • @joshsy5708
    @joshsy5708 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Always like B Greene and much appreciation for finding Sir Roger Penrose and his C3 theory decades ago of cyclical big bang and his MC Escher inspiration.

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci

      This new cyclical theory seems much more promising than Penrose's, imho.

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno Před 4 měsíci +4

    Great talk
    Anna's directness is hilarious

  • @u2rkillingme
    @u2rkillingme Před 4 měsíci +8

    Brian is the GOAT. So captivating the way he gets science accross

  • @mattmiller4917
    @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is the boldest and most intriguing idea in cosmology that I have come upon since inflation itself. I need to look into this more deeply. If true, then the implications are staggering, and many ideas from Hawking radiation to multiple universes are no longer viable or necessary.

    • @francretief1
      @francretief1 Před 4 dny

      True. This is a landmark idea that may form the basis of the origin of the universe.

  • @musicilike69
    @musicilike69 Před 9 dny

    He must be a joy to be interviewed by like this. Professor Greene is so perceptive, insightful and masterful in the art of scientific communication.

  • @AnnaBrownandTaiaha
    @AnnaBrownandTaiaha Před měsícem

    I have to say thank you for resuscitating my school education topics that I chose to learn, but had no way to pursue a career in my small country. I have to acknowledge Anna's courage to sit on this stage and hold her ground in the same esteem. You have inspired me so I thank you. I also want to acknowledge that I am enjoying observing the body language of the panel, it is so much fun to see it switch and change about when certain topics are being discussed 😎😁

  • @nicholasperry2380
    @nicholasperry2380 Před 5 dny

    What an astounding presentation! Many years ago I saw a similar event at Cambridge University where we were introduced to plate tectonics I feel this is going to prove to be equally profound. Four very, very clever people including THE science populariser of our age have come up with an alternative to something that has always bothered me. I can usually grasp the rough idea and communicate it but inflation (in the cosmic sense) had me utterly baffled, I feel a lot better knowing that I wasn't losing it. Utter respect to all of you especially Anna whose passion shows clearly. To have achieved so much while so young is doubly incredible, to explain it in another language with such clarity is staggering.

  • @QNTMGravity
    @QNTMGravity Před 4 měsíci +9

    Attended this live! Was a great show in NYC. Thanks Brian

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před 4 měsíci

      Dude it just came out lol. U couldn't have been there

    • @QNTMGravity
      @QNTMGravity Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@michael-4k4000they recorded this last month, go on their website you’ll see them advertising the live show. First set of live shows they’ve had since before Covid. 🎉

    • @mbolez
      @mbolez Před 4 měsíci

      @@michael-4k4000 what??

  •  Před 4 měsíci +2

    amazing idea, and an amazing video. I need a second watch.. but still beautiful.

  • @Joshua-by4qv
    @Joshua-by4qv Před 4 měsíci +3

    So fascinating and inspiring.

  • @TheEnigmaUniverse-vt2pm
    @TheEnigmaUniverse-vt2pm Před 4 měsíci +1

    Your videos are a constant source of inspiration, driving me to explore further into the mysteries of the universe. Thank you for kindling my inquisitiveness.

  • @aishikachakraborty
    @aishikachakraborty Před 4 měsíci +5

    WSF never disappoints :)

  • @Dale-ko9kc
    @Dale-ko9kc Před 4 měsíci +23

    I love these, they are so thought expanding. They make you know not one person is in charge. We will all be a part of that particle in the end.

    • @milire2668
      @milire2668 Před 4 měsíci +1

      much expanding. so universe. wow

    • @macysondheim
      @macysondheim Před 4 měsíci +1

      Maybe you’ll be just a particle in the end, but not me. Speak for yourself..

  • @fisheromen18
    @fisheromen18 Před 24 dny +2

    this talk sheds a lot of insight into how the scientifice oligarchy works to stifle new, emerging, and innovative ideas.

  • @fjbayt
    @fjbayt Před 4 měsíci +7

    Roger Penrose Cyclic Cosmology

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I would like to know what Penrose thinks of this idea. I could be wrong, but some aspects of it seem compatible with his concept.

  • @johnmccabe7645
    @johnmccabe7645 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Remarkable, these concepts and their explanations. All potential Nobel winners

    • @leonidasleonidas746
      @leonidasleonidas746 Před 4 měsíci

      Will save the Nobel for after we find out how old is the observable universe and what is beyond PS these are thoughts of an amateur young astronomer! Thank you

    • @johnhelm6231
      @johnhelm6231 Před 4 měsíci

      Nice job 😅😮🎉

    • @kmg3658
      @kmg3658 Před 4 měsíci

      "Establishment Participation" cookies.

  • @thorntontarr2894
    @thorntontarr2894 Před 4 měsíci +4

    This discussion contains many profound ideas with some usually hidden ones presented openly that are not limited to a 'cyclic cosmology'. For example, is a simulation based on a 'solid model', i.e. GR, what are the initial conditions used, i.e. spatial shear and is there an arbitrary 'sense' to it all These topics enter the discussion about one hour into the video lead with good questions by Dr. Greene. I, for one, would love to hear/see what Roger Penrose, Neil Turok and Jim Peebles have as reactions to this work.

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I hope they weigh in on this idea as well. I've been looking for reactions but haven't found them.

  • @johnburke568
    @johnburke568 Před 4 měsíci +3

    CCC is art. I just love it

  • @mudpie6927
    @mudpie6927 Před 4 měsíci +6

    I've latched onto this theory since we first heard of it

    • @truhartwood3170
      @truhartwood3170 Před 3 měsíci

      Never latch on to any hypothesis (it's not a theory yet as we have no strong observations of its predictions and wouldn't yet expect to have any evidence that would falsify it, so we can't say that we have ruled out the things that would falsify it).

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@truhartwood3170 Why assume something negative about this comment? People should "latch on" to hypotheses and consider them as they see fit. "Latch on to" doesn't have to mean "rigidly adhere." If you never latch on to a theory and pursue it, you get no where. More likely it's time to "latch off" from the standard theory of inflation.

    • @truhartwood3170
      @truhartwood3170 Před 3 měsíci

      @@mattmiller4917 just important to be as dispassionate as possible when considering various hypotheses so that we don't cherry pick data or have confirmation bias or unduly neglect or ignore other hypotheses. That's all. Even theories should only be loosely held as "the best explanation we have right now."

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci

      @@truhartwood3170 Certainly, but at the same time, we all "latch on" to ideas all the time, and becoming interested in something does not necessarily imply a lack of skepticism. There is nothing in the original comment that merited your criticism.

  • @_JustinCase_
    @_JustinCase_ Před 4 měsíci +18

    Another exceptional World Science Festival event.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před 4 měsíci

      We will see..... never assume as it makes ans ASS out of U & Me.... 😅

  • @nunomaroco583
    @nunomaroco583 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Amazing talk, great theory strong again. ....

  • @ksingh7149
    @ksingh7149 Před 4 měsíci +2

    thank you so much.

  • @PhilipRhoadesP
    @PhilipRhoadesP Před 4 měsíci +16

    Another really excellent panel discussion! - I wish I had the maths to understand all this stuff as well as the panel members . .

  • @bruceneeley1724
    @bruceneeley1724 Před 4 měsíci +37

    It makes you wonder if we lived in a contracting universe what would our theories of the origin be... Great episode!! Thank you!

    • @johnburke568
      @johnburke568 Před 4 měsíci +8

      That’s a great thought

    • @johnlonkert7187
      @johnlonkert7187 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Not only is it possible, but it very well COULD be the universe we live in. Like Paul said, the expansion was measured by observations of red shift that was millions and billions of years old...we can't actually measure what the far flung areas are doing NOW. So yes, the universe could be contracting at this moment, and we wouldn't know for many, many years

    • @FelixJaeger93
      @FelixJaeger93 Před 4 měsíci +8

      ​@@TheJoker-dj4yq it clearly is imaginable. Imagine the redshift would have turned out as a blue shift. Then people would have drawn the conclusions the person in the original comment was asking about.
      Thought experiments are never factual. That's the joke

    • @donnievance1942
      @donnievance1942 Před 4 měsíci +12

      @@TheJoker-dj4yq Contrafactual thought experiments aren't "fairy tale fantasies." They are usually an attempt to extract a general concept that might not be apparent from observation of present circumstances. One wonders why you felt compelled to spew out such a vicious low-class comment. You're obviously emotionally unbalanced. Have yourself another chaw of terbaccy and calm down, Jethro.

    • @chaotickreg7024
      @chaotickreg7024 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheJoker-dj4yqHahahaha if we focused on what we only knew to be possible then science wouldn't be done.

  • @bishopdredd5349
    @bishopdredd5349 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Great respect for the skills of the facilitator here.

    • @erichodge567
      @erichodge567 Před 4 měsíci

      Brian Greene is absolutely the best science presenter of our time. We're lucky to have him in the here and now.

    • @kmg3658
      @kmg3658 Před 4 měsíci

      Salesman of the decade.

  • @12MANY
    @12MANY Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great show

  • @HouseJawn
    @HouseJawn Před 3 měsíci

    I remember when Brian Greene made gis pop sci debut on the discovery channel or TLC or something similar, PBS? I didn't care for his educational style at the time, but i have grown to LOVE Prof. Greene 🥰

  • @TheMadmacs
    @TheMadmacs Před 4 měsíci +1

    fantastic panel.

  • @mosheshamay3475
    @mosheshamay3475 Před 3 měsíci

    Great expert!!❤

  • @alex79suited
    @alex79suited Před 4 měsíci

    Very well done, thank you. Peace 😎 ✌️

  • @Michael-pe5gh
    @Michael-pe5gh Před 4 měsíci +5

    Amazing - Thank you Brian Greene/Team .. amazing content

  • @antoniofajardo352
    @antoniofajardo352 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm eager to see this talk.

  • @duran9664
    @duran9664 Před 4 měsíci +3

    💭 💭💭💭
    If time in the whole universe stops for billions of years long then resumes, we wouldn’t be able to notice!
    🤯🤯 🤯

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci

      Because time has no cause , effect and affect upon anything(s) physical existence , dynamics ( nor space its self ) . Time is not a true three dimensional dimension . Time can not change any movement by any physical thing(s) . Nor Life . A true three dimensional object could change the movement in and of themselves ; of three dimensional objects .
      Time in the context of the Universe doesn't matter . It doesn't . Anyway , the stop in time would not be the stop of movement .
      Movement is independent of time . But time is not independent of movement .

  • @johnsonphilip8746
    @johnsonphilip8746 Před 4 měsíci

    Very thought provoking

  • @Mentaculus42
    @Mentaculus42 Před 4 měsíci +34

    Did they explain how entropy doesn’t ultimately WIN over accumulating cycles?! This was so interesting that it is worth a second watch. Many thanks for bringing such high quality content.

    • @c-djinni
      @c-djinni Před 4 měsíci +9

      Have not watched yet, but isn't "the universe" pretty much the only perfectly isolated system there is? In that case, wouldn't equality satisfy entropic laws?

    • @Mutation80
      @Mutation80 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@c-djinni If. But we just don't know what the universe is, what's beyond. So we just don't know. The speculation is interesting though

    • @juliocortez5209
      @juliocortez5209 Před 4 měsíci +3

      If considering entropy as a law is correct, then entropy follows a certain order (message). Furthermore, there is no such thing as chaos, just rearranging to a new order...which also does not follow the idea behind entropy. If entropy was a law, we wouldn't be here. The idea is flawed.

    • @c-djinni
      @c-djinni Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Mutation80 There's nothing "beyond the universe", as that would (by definition) be included in the universe.

    • @Mutation80
      @Mutation80 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@c-djinni we don't know, maybe we can't know. We don't know how the universe was created, what was before. For example multiverse theory where bubbels of universes keep popping up. Or brane theory, were a collision of higher dimensional branes created our universe

  • @rosanafonseca5804
    @rosanafonseca5804 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Muito obrigada queridíssimo Professor Brian Greene, abraçãoo ! Amooo demaaiiss este Planeta Terra Universo Magníficos e Fascinantes ! 😊👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️♥️♥️🌍🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲⛰️🏔️🌋🌳🌴🌲🌴🌲🌴🌳🌎🪐🌕🌍🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲🌳🌴🌲🌏🌕🪐🌍🌕🪐🌏🌎♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @phtoed
    @phtoed Před 4 měsíci +1

    what they fail discuss is the causal mechanism for the expanding universe (currently reported with a large time lag) to reverse to a contracting universe in the observable space. Otherwise an excellent presentation.

  • @sobekneferu4041
    @sobekneferu4041 Před 4 měsíci

    interesting. I need to re watch so I can better understand, but their idea does make sense.

  • @0ucantstopme034
    @0ucantstopme034 Před 17 dny +1

    This is surely interesting. But what got the cycle going in the first place? What started the first expansion/contraction?

  • @casnimot
    @casnimot Před 3 měsíci +2

    Right now, Penrose's take on conformal cyclic cosmology makes more sense to me.

  • @metalrock2112
    @metalrock2112 Před 4 měsíci

    Great show! Extremely interesting 🤔. Fantastic questions.

  • @danielt167
    @danielt167 Před 29 dny

    I wanna know who that guy is that queues up the animations and videos of exactly what the speakers are talking about a split second after they start talking about it.. that guy deserves a raise.

  • @stevemarks1511
    @stevemarks1511 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great Great question! I bow to you Profesor Greene. Like a great book you open our minds and I thank you daily.
    Question: one implies a God if pre bang didn't exist. And time may be man made but pre big bang may of been a plate of gasses that came from even mutation and or evolution where and how did they start.?
    And think that the universe is still forming and it will expand as it cools it may slow and retract and effect gravity as the stars burn out billions and billions Of years from now; note new Suns are being born so this may take eternity.
    ?

  • @stuartgreene5010
    @stuartgreene5010 Před 3 měsíci

    Couldn't this explain the Hubble Tension (around 1:16:00) if the slope of the potential energy curve is different for different methods of determining the rate assessed at different distances? Just sayin'.

  • @user-oy7bu8yi5b
    @user-oy7bu8yi5b Před 4 měsíci

    Might it be that expansion and contraction are both present together, working in tandem? Galaxies can be expanding as a whole, while within each galaxy pockets of contraction might provide the smoothing until an equilibrium is obtain?

    • @truhartwood3170
      @truhartwood3170 Před 3 měsíci

      No, since the smoothing is on a cosmic scale, what's happening in galaxies wouldn't account for it.

  • @helicalactual
    @helicalactual Před 4 měsíci +1

    how did they get to be the same temperature? gravity on the PODE. the PODE itself would be extremely close to uniform and the mechanism that actually made the big bang expand is still not yet understood. so that could also play a part.

  • @bindurao3463
    @bindurao3463 Před 4 měsíci

    Very interesting

  • @moralboundaries1
    @moralboundaries1 Před 10 dny +2

    50 minutes in and nobody has mentioned Sir Roger Penrose... huh?

  • @NashPotatoesOutdoorShow
    @NashPotatoesOutdoorShow Před 4 měsíci +10

    I'm not sure I fully understand this stuff, but thanks for producing such great content!!!

    • @LordLOC
      @LordLOC Před 4 měsíci +4

      Don't worry, the point is, even these giant brains don't understand it all either. That's pretty much the point of discussing and trying to understand all of this.

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@LordLOC they don't , true .
      And discussing other theories of the Universe . ( Presented by those that know the alternative theories such as Cosmic Plasma and Electric Universe theories best ) . Not just from mainstream understanding of both theories .

    • @readynowforever3676
      @readynowforever3676 Před 4 měsíci

      @@philharmer198 There are "theories"/hypothesis and there are ideas/suggestions. "Main stream" or not.
      If you cannot produce a model, much less mathematics, you're just day dreaming and perhaps coming up with a theme for a science fiction movie.

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@readynowforever3676 Agreed .

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci

      @@readynowforever3676 true .

  • @julicaruso
    @julicaruso Před 2 měsíci

    I'm not a native in English speaker neither a physics specialist (not even a student) so I could be missing key things here, but I don't understand what could trigger the bounce phase, and besides that, how is that the smoothing process doesn't contradict entropy? Could someone help me understand this o fill in the gaps i'm missing here, please?

  • @truebones
    @truebones Před měsícem

    amazing

  • @johnmarshall3252
    @johnmarshall3252 Před měsícem

    What if spontaneous creation / destruction of matter and energy at the quantum level AND expansion / compaction at the cosmological level are not mutually exclusive? And what if the expansion is heavily biased in the spatial dimensions and the compaction is heavily biased in the temporal dimension? Can you run your models using these assumptions and see how they might influence the model's ability to describe observation?

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 Před 4 měsíci

    there are reasons why this leads to layers of abstraction, that is necessary to do cosmology in some for or fashion, and it turns into half and half conceptual and numerical curve fitting, which is not an insult btw, this is what we have been stuck with in part since newton, but this kind of physics model is always open to changing principles, and so we shall see. this is not to say that the work already done on cosmology is wrong, or unimportant, it might just take a more complicated and constraining set of principles to make progress.

  • @sylviarogier1
    @sylviarogier1 Před 4 měsíci

    Does this theory rule out the "need" for quantum gravity in black hole physics as well?
    Anyway, really interesting talk. Thank you!

    • @UrMomsFavSnack
      @UrMomsFavSnack Před 4 měsíci

      I don’t think it by definition would rule it out, it just might not have as much of an impact as a mechanistic feature, so it would be a bug caused by Black Hole’s not a feature.

  • @martinrutley-wk5ds
    @martinrutley-wk5ds Před 4 měsíci

    How did we get the low entropy of the big bang?😅

  • @mannysinvestments2328
    @mannysinvestments2328 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I am not sure about the 'Big Bang' but my mind is blown by this episode. Wow!

  • @blanksinatra112
    @blanksinatra112 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I like the Roger Penrose theory, way more elegant!

  • @mikeharrington5593
    @mikeharrington5593 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I think the Universe is dynamic & animated, & pulses like a wave, producing a series of Big Bangs like a celestial sausage machine. There is no beginning and no end, except for the birth of consciousness which was needed to give meaning to all material existence.

    • @mattmiller4917
      @mattmiller4917 Před 3 měsíci

      Needed by us, maybe. But why would a human invention like meaning be needed for a physical process?

  • @buddyhell7100
    @buddyhell7100 Před 4 měsíci +2

    My belief is that the big bang was a somewhat localised event in a much larger universe. Like a rock dropped into the ocean, its effect is localised when compared to the whole universe.
    Maybe black holes collapse even further when they reach a critical mass, they implode more then explode

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 4 měsíci

      Galactic localization . Galactic creation . Not the Universe .
      Black holes are mathematical concepts . They don't actually physically exist .

    • @truhartwood3170
      @truhartwood3170 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@philharmer198we have pictures of black holes. Well, at least the event horizon. They do in fact exist and are extensively studied. Eg we've captured the gravity wave signatures of back holes merging.

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 3 měsíci

      @@truhartwood3170 Other theories think differently . Cosmic Plasmas and Electric Universe Theories for example . Show that black holes don't actually exist . Who Interprets the information matters .
      Are these waves moving out from this " black hole " or inwards ( towards the center of the , source ) ? Or Outwards ?
      Pictures of black holes , remind me more of currents of plasma . Like Ocean currents . A whirl pool of plasma .

    • @mrhassell
      @mrhassell Před 26 dny

      @@philharmer198 The 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to three scientists for groundbreaking contributions to Science. 1. Roger Penrose: Received half of the prize “for the discovery that black hole formation is a robust prediction of the general theory of relativity” - 2/3 . Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez: They jointly shared the other half “for the discovery of a supermassive compact object at the center of our galaxy”. Not only is it scientifically proven, the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), photographed the supermassive black hole in M87* or Virgo A, as well as Sagittarius A*, central to our home in the Milky Way galaxy. They both physically exist and are 100% REAL, proven phenomena.

    • @philharmer198
      @philharmer198 Před 25 dny

      @@mrhassell Now take that information upon which they base their truth of black holes and give this information to the Plasma and Electric Universe theorists , make it public , this information and find out what they have to say , about this information . Do they come to the same conclusion as they do ? I doubt it .

  • @Corvaire
    @Corvaire Před 4 měsíci

    Great work! ;O)-

  • @Jay-ft3xh
    @Jay-ft3xh Před 4 měsíci +6

    It's nice to see such brilliant people laugh at pure nervousness when there is not a shred of humor. Eases my anxiety.

    • @macysondheim
      @macysondheim Před 4 měsíci

      Grow some hair on your chest nerd

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 Před 4 měsíci

    you see it depends on the coordinate interpretations, because at a certain expansion rate the rate of change in the energy density can also be corresponding in a funky way, but this only makes good physical sense for these types of equations when you define energy in a certain way, and this business has to do with derivatives of the metric and so on and the energy densities even when they are 0 and so it isn't as un-tricky as either Einstein or his contemporaries knew anything about, the essential boiled down version is that you can pick a convention and it will sort out your derivatives independently of what the energy densities actually are without changing the equations so to speak in this more involved language, so in a sense they where both right and wrong. this is the gist anyway :)

  • @albertoesposito2389
    @albertoesposito2389 Před 2 měsíci

    I like the theory presented by the lady!

  • @veerlevanrusselt1370
    @veerlevanrusselt1370 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Не может ли быть так, что расширение вызвано самим квантовым явлением, которое нарушило суперсимметрию энергии и вернуло её в так называемое состояние со вновь возможностью квантового явления в этой суперсимметричной энергии?

    • @we8608
      @we8608 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was thinking something similar last night. Extreme symmetry at the start, yet a quantum particle tripped out of balance somehow.

    • @mrhassell
      @mrhassell Před 26 dny

      QFT - Quantum Field Theory supports this idea, exactly as you say. I feel a little less alone in the Universe now. Thank you for making this profound remark! Спасибо

  • @franzculetto5962
    @franzculetto5962 Před 4 měsíci

    The competing cosmological models are pretty dependent on principles. What if the universe's minimum a(t) never was microscopic due to space requirements of its total energy content (then of an extremely nonlinear, selfinteracting system)? And time, whatever this is in the spatial bottleneck situation, could it have slowed down enough to guarantee sort of thermodynamic equilibrium to be reached without any inflationary necessity? And kind of a Feigenbaum scenario with a plethora of phase transitions would then have had the time necessary to evolve and generate complexity...

  • @MichaRoki
    @MichaRoki Před 4 měsíci +1

    What about Penrose and Meissner with aeons theory?

  • @HumanityOutsourced
    @HumanityOutsourced Před 10 dny

    The universe won’t ever end

  • @BangladeshBusinessBureau
    @BangladeshBusinessBureau Před 3 měsíci

    Nothing begin and will never end...

  • @BrianFedirko
    @BrianFedirko Před měsícem +1

    Zero entropy is a weird way to look at anything, as you can simply assume just limiting space/time to a point could be all entropy at the same look. It doesn't have to make sense that way of looking at entropy. Entropy is a deceiving concept. Personally it's always bugged me. Why isn't a singularity entropy anyway you look at it? Gr8! Peace ☮💜

  • @MrJPI
    @MrJPI Před 2 měsíci

    One thing that remains unclear to me in this discussion: If, in the cyclic model, inflation can't smooth the universe unless it was already very very smooth to start with, then how can the cyclic model produce a smooth universe even when it lacks the smoothing inflation?
    Or maybe I need to watch this again with greater care...

  • @ZozoOriginal
    @ZozoOriginal Před 12 dny +2

    I come here because I have no friends that want to talk about these things. (insert tears)

    • @RcStR365
      @RcStR365 Před 6 dny

      You're not alone...me too 😂

  • @DeconvertedMan
    @DeconvertedMan Před 4 měsíci +3

    science is awesome! :)

  • @mykofreder1682
    @mykofreder1682 Před 4 měsíci

    Waves at a beach can be very turbulent, picking up material on its way, yet on the beach the sand is flat. Gravity could be the turbulent fluid in some gravitationally overloaded universal sized black hole, by time particles can get together again still expanding compressed gravity is in the beach, calmer state.

  • @John_Mack
    @John_Mack Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you see a pile of broken glass on the floor, you don't know what it was until it is all put back together. In a broken state it could be a bottle or a glass. Our universe is the pile of broken glass, how can you think it was a bottle when it could have been a glass?

  • @WooliteMammoth
    @WooliteMammoth Před 4 měsíci

    Does anyone know when this lecture occurred? Late 2023 I imagine?

  • @reversetransistor4129
    @reversetransistor4129 Před 4 měsíci

    I don't understand the last stage of contraction must be made faster than light, will be needed a great amount of energy.

  • @karlisberzins9476
    @karlisberzins9476 Před 4 měsíci

    No doubt that contraction vs expansion could mathenatically solve the Universe smoothness fact (I don't want to call it a problem as it is observational fact).
    What timescale (small, iternal?) contruction we are talking about?
    And finally, are there any observational facts of any field contraction? I mean facts not just speculations (one real clue would be great)? Possible (unexcluded) unknown local contruction I belive is not what was modeled.
    I admit that currently I can not think about any particular observatiobal evidence in favour of any Universe contraction, incl. CMB spectrum and that during accepted inflational phase. Note that local contraction does not explain global smootbes.
    Any references would be welcome.

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 Před 4 měsíci

    also, if we run with this Einsteinian dream that all relations are self defining in a sense, the size of the universe changing isn't actually what expansion means, expansion in that sense means the changing of relations inside the space. in that language the notion of a singularity just doesn't exist anymore or it changes into a different kind of statement which can just as easily have a past as any other point or volume.

  • @pinball1970
    @pinball1970 Před 3 měsíci

    When was this talk?

  • @koilerREC
    @koilerREC Před 2 měsíci

    it always bothers me if somebody is saying the universe is expanding into, into like what? so even if you imply there is something, you can not explain the universe. It has to be part of it right? Other wise our definition of "Universe" is not yet complete.

  • @SymbiosisAndre
    @SymbiosisAndre Před 4 měsíci

    I just love science programs like these. Hypothesis are postulated and then discussed until there is nothing left but facts close to be 100% true. Religions, in contrast, postulate theories that may not be questioned and are almost 100% false, yet people can't let go of it. Like a ship that kept one safe for years, but is sinking now, goes down with those that hang on to it, while those that accept the fact, start swimming and stay on the surface, at least for a while

  • @GammaFields
    @GammaFields Před 3 měsíci

    When I was in high school, I thought that a universe and its energy would dissipate beyond its event horizon in akin to hawking radiation, but only after achieving entropic equilibrium; returning its energy to the environment that birthed it.

    • @GammaFields
      @GammaFields Před 3 měsíci +1

      I was dead serious and fascinated by this idea. It's been my dream to chase that question. But now I know to bite my tongue and question without assumption.

  • @MH-mc3pp
    @MH-mc3pp Před 3 měsíci

    The bounce violates the null energy condition, which is a necessary property of relativistic quantum mechanics. Why was this not discussed?

  • @prestonbacchus4204
    @prestonbacchus4204 Před 3 měsíci

    Consider, the universe itself is living. If it is, we can surmise that it was "born" from the interaction of other pre-existing universes like our own with an endless number of other related universes filling the proverbial night sky beyond the realm of our expanding universe. All of it is alive and growing.^

  • @kalaperkins9883
    @kalaperkins9883 Před 4 měsíci

    And so here we are now…..and in x billion trillion giga years all the supermassive black holes evaporate into 🌑 and 🌚….😘Great session! Thanks so much! Perfect New Years launch💫💙

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před 4 měsíci

      Anna and Brian had a lot of chemistry... HUBA HUBA

  • @LemurWhoSpoke
    @LemurWhoSpoke Před 4 měsíci +2

    This talk disappointed me. I was hoping for a discussion of CCC (Conformal Cyclic Cosmology) as well, not just a new idea that sounds like it hasn't been vetted yet. Even after this discussion, I'm still more of a fan of CCC. The "bounce" idea just doesn't seem plausible to me.
    Please consider doing a talk on CCC. I know Penrose isn't a fan of string theory, but if that's a sensitive topic, just try to avoid that sticking point.

    • @jimmydoolitle3764
      @jimmydoolitle3764 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Exactly. I was quite surprised that Penrose and his CCC were not even briefly mentioned. Penrose even discusses using polorization observations of the CMB as a way to support his theory, just as this audience was describing. It's just crazy that Brian didn't bring it up.

  • @veerlevanrusselt1370
    @veerlevanrusselt1370 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Разве гладкость не возникает, если к энергии противоположного расширения добавить гравитационную энергию?

    • @KJUgrin
      @KJUgrin Před 4 měsíci

      No. Dark energy (inflation) is stronger because there is FAR more empty space than there is matter & mass enough for gravity. Gravity effects much less space than dark energy.

  • @peterpalumbo1963
    @peterpalumbo1963 Před 3 měsíci

    Sounds like Rovelli, a bouncy to a white hole to time reversal and a return of information. You may or may not have to consider Heisenburge and uncertainty principal.

  • @monkerud2108
    @monkerud2108 Před 4 měsíci

    with respect to this comment i just made, pauls point makes a lot of sense, but i think it is a mix, i think he thought he had some notion of self consistency baked in and the observations carried it, little did he know that to explain the broken scale in variance in the physics of atoms in the same language as curved spacetime you need the universe to expand, it turns out it cannot bounce outside very spacial cases that are ultimately local fluctuations and shouldn't really be viewed as contraction, it could never happen for a large universe like ours, but essentially the mechanisms you need to explain the broken scale invariance of matter and a lot of other feature of the forces you absolutely need expansion in the context of this ever increasing entropy to explain features that look driven and damped in equal propotions in relation to a moving definition of energy related to the broken scale invariance. but he could never have known that something as simple as self consistency could tie all these things together, and that is the curse of being a pioneer, you never know what might come next, and so we shouldn't take our principles so seriously outside understanding their application and intent in a separated way.

    • @tuk7raz
      @tuk7raz Před 4 měsíci

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  • @hungrydave1977
    @hungrydave1977 Před 4 měsíci +4

    This is really good. Im always sceptical of things that seem bolted on to fix problems - inflation, dark matter etc

    • @crehenge2386
      @crehenge2386 Před 4 měsíci

      Only it's not, unlike this idea those ideas are based on actual physics and observations