Hernia mesh complications 'affect more than 100,000' - BBC News
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- Up to 170,000 people who have had hernia mesh implants in England in the past six years could face complications, this programme has found.
In that time, there have been about 570,000 such operations and the complication rate is said to be 12-30%.
Some patients have been left unable to walk or work, others left suicidal.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency continues to back the use of hernia mesh.
Anna Collinson reports.
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It took courage to share your story David. Wishing you can be pain-free soon.
Yes so agree. I hear you and all the pain. What has happened to humanity.
Poor people. Every time I'm thinking about having surgery I watch these vids..
I have just got a hernia, and was thinking about having surgery, but is so scary and depressing. :(
@@Charlie-tl4dv It is depressing and annoying. Hard to believe that in 2024 we can't get a simple hernia repair without having to take a big risk.
@@nigelwilliams9307 Is crazy indeed! I’m doing research and there are 2 techniques that don’t require mesh, but would need to go private, which not sure if I can afford, and it should be something that the NHS provide! Why don’t they I really don’t know!!
@@nigelwilliams9307 Indeed! Although there seems to be less risky operations, that would cost a little bit more (non mesh ones) like Shouldice and Desarda, but there doesn't seem to be one in the UK that performs that (only in Germany for what I've researched). I only hear good things about them. NHS should get trained on them, though I doubt they will as it is economically not attractive to them.
This is a shameful and painfully ruinous surgical procedure, this family is suffering as are many others from this procedure!;
My heart goes out to these people. I have chronic pain and it’s miserable. I have just learnt about how thousands of women have had problems with mesh as well.
I'm at the end of my rope. I've tried e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g. I'm using cannabis concentrates but like all drugs, they don't work indefinitely. Sometimes you have to give it a break for a while and use something else. After a while you can use it again. Definitely vaporize and use a high THC product. FORGET CBD. CBD is not psychoactive. People whoose pain gets any better with CBD is experiencing a placebo. effect. I actually don't care. If the pain is gone, the pain is gone.
did you get the mesh in the hernia procedure? what is your most obvious pain ?
when I gave birth CSECtion they gave me hernia then mesh bulge pain swelling bc no hernia they won't help me turn back over over again
As someone who was 20 just got out of the military when I had the mesh put in my body, my life has been completely ruined because of the Bard mesh. What's worse than even the pain is the fact that my government (Good ole USA) keeps allowing these companies continuance after continuance, there's ZERO pain control unless you purchase heroin (fentanyl) on the street. These pharmaceutical and medical industries deserve a special place in hell. If there were any justice they would have to live the rest of their lives in pain with every doctor pretending to care only to just shrug their shoulders and tell you to do what you can do. These companies are purposely trying to outlive the lawsuits and the amount of people killing themselves it's probably a strategy that's working well.
I’m going through the same thing. Mine is stabbing me in my groin & thigh! And I’m completely numb on that side. The pain is horrid. I feel like I’m on fire & being shocked all day every day! This is barbaric that these mesh are used! It needs to be illegal. It ruins lives!!!! I’m so sad & so angry that so many of us are suffering 24/7!
did you get a mesh repair ?
im the same .... 24/7 pain ,,,, i sleep only 3 hrs a day for over a year since that Surgary , i also have anxiety cause of this ,,,, it sucks ....
You are so right!!!!! Almost 3 years of suffering from left inguinal hernia repair. And it's only getting worse. I feel like this mesh is what is the root cause for the issues I'm currently having. Pain day and night. My left side hurts on and off. Rectal pain, pain down my left leg now. It is horrible. And none of these doctors awill do anything but prescribe medicines(poisons) and tell me to alternate Tylenol and advil. Smh
After complications on hysterectomy when I was living in Middle East after repairing wounds of necrotising factious , I had several hernia repairs ..I returned to America to find my mesh had migrated. which led to 5 more surgeries and I need a total abdominal reconstruction surgery, I am not healthy enough to do the surgery right now. I can not qualify for mesh malpractice since it was done overseas. I am only 53 and I am a mess!
I have chronic pain from inguinal hernia repair in the Netherlands in 2019. I’ve mentioned this to my previous Dutch and French family doctors who indicated mesh problems are extremely rare and should’t be an issue. Meanwhile I’ve stopped yoga, and running, I need to move my right leg back to bend forward, I have a sharp inguinal pain when turning a corner when going up the stairs, and have difficulty driving. My right hip now needs replacement and my right thigh has shrunk in circumference by 5cm. I’m hoping the hip replacement fixes most of my problem, and I’m starting to worry that the mesh may be the root cause of all my problems. Thanks for sharing - hopefully the doctors will start taking these mesh issues more seriously in the future.
Love. The Badge, David CTID good luck lad, hope things improve for you.
If only doctors would listen to us 😢
They do know and they give you Vitimin D3 cholecalsiferol ( rat poison)
@@Home1234_ what?
@@Home1234_ rat poison??
I had an insightful experience in canada, went to a clinic, had no gp, coincidently I got a former military doctor, a woman who was about to retire altogether to raise children on a remote acreage, who told me things then told me that other doctors wont tell you much of what they know, because she said that "we're all afraid" of losing practice licenses... she wasn't afraid because she was quitting... nice of her to say so
I've lost count of how many doctors and consultants who have disbelieved me when I tell them my pain and symptoms are all mesh related. Gaslighting all the way.
I can't believe people still ask him, "how sure are you is the mesh?". I mean, look at his level of pain. It's absurd and sickening. Of course it's the mesh.
What’s the update with David? This made me feel so bad I pray David isn’t in anymore pain
David has had the mesh removed but is still in pain alas. That’s hernia mesh. Once harmed…
I'm 24yrs turning 25yrs this year.Had inguinal hernia in 2021.Since then my life has turned the opposite of my expectations to be well again. I Can not bend,move with out shocking pain on the leg and numbness.I can't sing effectively as before or else I will get a shock on the leg.I miss my old self it's hard to adopt to this life it's hard and depressing. If only there could be a solution to all this chronic pains.
Remember first day of surgery was very tough, very thirsty no matter how much liquid was sipped by hour and hunger with it, I somehow managed by solid food for day or two
I had a inguinal hernia surgery when i was 25. I gradually became impotent after 2 years. Today i'm 41 and i'm still impotent. I never had pain but i have loads of different health problems that my doctors never found out the underlying cause.
@A. Aubry Yes. Removed it 2 months ago in Germany. Now im felling much better. I have been taking arginine and citruline because the mesh affected my nitrix oxide production. You need nitric oxide to get erections. Viagra wont help if you have low nitric oxide. i Suffered from cold feet and hands so makes all sense to improve my nitric oxide. I tried diet and exercise but didnt work for me so i had to buy arginine/citruline. I
@A. Aubry Many thanks. Yeah 3 Portuguese private surgeon doctors refused to help me. They said the mesh was perfect. After the mesh was removed in Germany i felt like a new person. No depression and no OCD.
Have your cold feet and hands improved since removing the mesh?
where did you go in Germany to get it removed need the answer got mesh and it ain't working@@andrewcameron6611
I am in the same situation, I have made several complaints to my GP, my umbilical hernia mesh was fitted in 2010 and it is now broken and I can feel a sharpness protruding through my belly button. Yes, it is very painful and the doctors act as if you are making the pain up.
Same year as me and for the past 4 years every now and then if I strain or put my knees up a massive lump pops out and I have to put it back .
The doc says take a picture how the hell can I take a picture when it's so painful and cripples me.
It only happen again last week and leaves and ACH.
Had a scan few year ago and came back with nothing.
Your not alone I have puncher marks through my skin where the sutures or mesh has penetrated the skin if it’s doing that it can easy puncher the bowel
Why won't tgey remove it. Do you have a medical ombudsmen or patient advocacy to help you.
@@wellinever1558 No, I am due for another check up then will have it all removed. Thank you.
I had the same surgery done and I have the same problem right now I’m 27 years old 😢
Hugs to you David thinking about you as my friend has a groin hernia and I think this has made us saying no to mesh
Thanks for sharing your story David. I will continue to do my research. I worry that my hernia increasing in size will stop my running which I enjoy.
@@lc2453 Hi. I need to do more research into Germany's procedures as their private healthcare doesn't use mesh. Fortunately my hernia isn't causing me to many problems recently. How about yourself?
@@lc2453 I don't use those platforms I'm afraid. How come?
Hernias get worse over time if left untreated though? So non treatment isnt an option. But if this mesh is literally crippling people, then the mesh isnt an option either. What other ways are there to fix inguinal, and other types of hernias that dont include using mesh???
@@Kumari_44 waiting for someone to answer. It’s a relevant question.
Wear a binder when you run.
surgeon told me, "I might have stapled through the blood supply; or a nerve, it will grow back." Nope. twenty-five years of chronic pain, and low temperature from waist down, body temperature hovers around 35C, now I'm hypothermic and have Raynaud's, one teste is dying. They said, "all we can do is go in and redo it; we're not going to do that." Great! Canadian health care, at its best. Someday, someone will help us. My crotch feels deathly cold on the side of the mesh, and when it gets that way I throw up. I have to use heating pads and hot water bottles when seated because the blood doesn't get there, and there are shrunken, black veins visible, and arteries that are solid to palpate, they are solid blocks of scar. I'm sitting on a heating pad as I write this, even though my room temperature is 36C from my waist down, ICE COLD and my feet feel like they are in ice water all the time. I have to keep moving...
I'm so very sorry about your pain and distress! So sorry
I cant believe this. Im so sorry, man.
I must say that also perhipheral neuropathy genetic, due IMO to diagnosed MCTD. So it may be a bad idea to put mesh into patients with MCTD? duh. no brainer. But the point is that comorbid with the mesh failure and risk is mixed connective tissue disease because they test mesh on people without it. am i right. people with apparent EDS better of with old school style sew up the hole rather than instert a shitload of material and staples, overkill and some not all peple reject the material .... like an ogan donor rejecting a transplant... get very sick I'm speculating but wouldn't it make sense???!1
My left side is always cold. I think its because of the mesh!!
You need a new doctor and a lawyer! Jesus!
This has happened to me I been to hospital recently they basically said they won’t remove it it’s causing me pain and discomfort and I have photos of the sutures or sharp mesh poking through the tummy
I’m so sorry for everyone, I also had a mesh implant due to stress incontinence. I have never ever thought that the problem of pain could be due my bladder. I’ve been diagnosed with Polymyalgia Rheumatica so I’m not sure what pain is due what reason.
I've had 2 inguinal hernias, both repaired with mesh, no problems thank God.
Hey there Hank!! Can I get an update on your post surgery inguinal hernia recovery? I may have one soon 😒
@@joeperez4145 yeah, you will be sore as hell for a couple weeks. Pain while taking a dump especially. Then after it heals you can feel the mesh under your skin, but you get used to it. Been lifting a lot since my surgerys and they haven't ruptured.
@Steven Criscione wow. If you have the mesh you can kinda feel it under your skin. It's not much but it's there.
@Steven Criscione I had one surgery back in 1999, and another on the other side in 2012, I think.
@@joeperez4145 the left side 99, the right side 2011.
Great job done
100.000 seems like a low-ball estimate. I had debilitating chronic pain for 16 years and was lucky enough to find a surgeon to remove it. I now have no chronic pain, just a little soreness from the incision (and the surgery was only two weeks ago). I no longer need any pain medication either. I traveled 1700 miles for the surgery and I would have gone further. The surgery took 5 hours as the mesh was stuck to everything (spermatic cord, nerves, and intestine). After this long removal mesh surgery I had a complication that required a second ER surgery just two days later. Regardless, I now feel like a million bucks compared to how I felt before the mesh was removed. Awareness of how bad synthetic mesh can be for a patient is non-existent in the medical community. This needs to change. My synthetic mesh worked fine for three years until the complications started. Almost every doctor I met with during that time told me that it couldn't be the mesh. They will never understand unless they try the product themselves and their body responds poorly to it (like mine did).
Hi, I am glad you are better.I am suffering big-time with severe pain in my stomach everyday.I had my surgery in 2014 for umblimical hernia..I also found out later that they put in a large mesh.I can't sleep at night..I have no luck with doctors..I know its the mesh.Sometimes the pain is so bad I cant even walk....😪
@@candypal700 keep searching. there are doctor's (although they are few in between) who understand the issues with synthetic mesh.
@@jvh1528 So you get your mesh removed by Dr. Brown. How much did you pay?
How are you doing now? Are you back to full health? I've had my hernia mesh for 14 years and I'm not sure that I can take much more of the pain and health issues. I need to get it out.
Check with your lawyer to see how much time you have to file 1 million lawsuit. Lawyers collect everyday on this at no cost to you
Hernia popped out of my mesh today and have a golf ball popping out. Oddly enough not where the original inguinal hernia was. Instead much higher. For those who had this happened, how was the surgery recovery to do the issue ?
das another hernia homie.
I had a hernia repair about 5 years ago, I'm currently in a law suit process as a month after the surgery I ended up getting an infection, going in an out of the drs an er to be ignored, treated as a pill seeker for narcotics etc. 6 months later I ended up in the hospital for a week sent home with a drain tube to drain the infection an a pic line to administer my own antibiotic at home the 9th month I had surgery to remove the mesh an weight loss surgeon.
I was to have a leather based mesh placed when I got to a certain weight. I had my last hernia repair in March of 2021 an instead of following the mesh recommended from the previous surgeon, the surgeon I had this time put in the plastic stuff an I've been having issues.
This surgeon who is not a plastic surgeon supposably removed 3-5 pounds of extra skin an fat an a tummy tuck but I'm seeing a plastic surgeon elsewhere and he questioned the surgeon I had an why he did things how he did etc.
Prayers to those of you who have complications still cause it sucks‼️
In 2019, I had my initial umbilical hernia repaired using mesh. Ten months later, I underwent another surgery for an epigastric hernia, also repaired with mesh. Now, two years later, the epigastric hernia has recurred, but I'm opting not to undergo another surgery. I've been advised to avoid straining the abdominal area, which limits my ability to exercise. Additionally, I occasionally experience constipation. The pain during the first 30-40 days after each repair was quite severe, but thankfully, I'm feeling better now.
Are there any self dissolvable mesh similar to sutures?
I have been having this same problem since 2006. But the doctors don't understand.
Drs don't want to know. They hate complications and take it as a personal failure. Why they can't stand in the shoes of the patient I don't know.
I got mesh-free Desarda hernia repair and so glad I did my research. 0% long term or chronic pain.
Hi, where did you get this Desarda Hernia repair done ? In India or USA ?
Please share you're long term experience also
How much cost please rply soon
@@hkkenw cost why pain?
@@hkkenw can u share your contact number...I want to talk to you regarding the all issues
First 30 seconds has totally described me
Same for me it is horrible.
I also did hernia Surgary 1.5 year ago ....im with a chronic nerve pain in my bottom belly ....i cant stand this pain ,,,,all medication make you zombie .... im afraid to take out the mesh ... cause the chances that it will be worse are very high .... i saw horror stories and more than that .,.... my Brother had mesh removal and he got now more damage .. anyone who think on that surgury need to be aware ,
I had laparoscopic inguinal hernia repair (with a mesh) six (6) months [not days/weeks] ago and it has been horrible. My condition is actually worse than before the surgery. The mesh feels like a piece of sandpaper was surgically implanted inside of my body and the area where the hernia was a half year ago is still painful and swollen. My right testicle has been swollen and inflamed and is still approximately 100% larger than my left testicle. My condition is worse because of the pain and aching associated with my testicle being affected as opposed to just the less sensitive abdominal material that would occasionally protrude though my abdominal wall. My condition is affecting my activity level. I cannot walk for extended periods of time before the aching spreads to my lower belly area causing an upset stomach and ultimately headaches. I am dealing with chaffing because of the abnormal size of my right testicle. I can no longer complete a full yoga workout, ride a bike or jog/run and this has caused my physical condition to continually decline since the surgery. I have lost notable muscle mass, flexibility and my energy level is continually lessening. I am considering have the testicle removed.
I have Mesh problems / i could have cried when i seen this report / My life is over and i can not understand why / i get no help with my pain nothing ever works / im becoming a recluse 😢
I have mesh complications too (15 years and counting). I take Kratom (legal in most US states and UK) to deal with the pain and I highly recommend it since doctor's don't believe me. I have also found a list of Doctors in US who will remove the hernia mesh. Most work without insurance because insurance will not cover it or they will not compensate doctors fairly for removal surgery. I am actively pursuing this route. Go here for the list: facebook.com/notes/mesh-problems/list-of-doctors-who-remove-hernia-mesh/971281296236148. My heart goes out to you and all those who have suffered like me.
Update: My mesh comes out October 11th:) Don't give up hope!
J VH - I’m getting my mesh out October 30th. Let us know how it goes. 😊
@@everydayeasyrecipes2650 That's great! I will let you know and you do the same!
@@everydayeasyrecipes2650 I just had my right inguinal mesh removed two and a half weeks ago and I no longer have ANY chronic pain. Additionally, I stopped all pain medicine and I only have a little soreness from where the new incision is. I did have a serious complication immediately following the surgery (bowel loop and obstruction) that required an immediate second surgery, so I will admit there are some serious risks with getting the mesh removed. My mesh was entangled in my intestine, spermatic cord, and nerves and required a 5 hour surgery to remove. Consider the risks before getting it out but I need to spread the word that the mesh was my ENTIRE problem. My urinary problems have gone away as well. Additionally, my blood pressure came down considerably and I no longer have leg pain. PM me if you or anyone needs the name of my surgeon.
I have also had a hernia mesh in my stomach region about twenty-five years ago in Dover. After I had an operation for cancer of the top part of my colon in France. The operation cut thru my belly button and into my mesh. Even though I told my surgeon I had a mesh inside. I now have two strands of mesh protruding from my midriff. As yet no pain. John Eric Hoare.
The VA did mine about 20 years ago. Yesterday I started getting sharp stabbing pains coming from that area (that's why should up here) it hits like lightning and lasts about 20 seconds. Had about 6 yesterday and another 4 today. Need to see the Doc but it's been so long since going I lost my primary and am now getting the run around trying to get another Doc. I also have some breathing problems ( if I tie my shoes I'm out of breath) but that been going on for a while. But hey at least my family will get a nice flag!
5 years ago I had a large open incisional abdominal heania repair with mesh. I'm not in pain, however I'm finding it increasingly difficult to walk and cannot walk far. I walk slowly, if I try to walk quicker my body will not let me. My GP doesn't want to know. I can't even get a blue badge.
I'm exactly the same, my open incisional hernia repair has an is still a nightmare had it 2018 an now it's 2024 an nothings changed still constantly in pain an no life ?????
So, how many years did it take before they found a problem?
too many!
I have chronic pain from hernia mesh it’s pulled so tight I can feel the anchor points and it’s very sharp and I have sutures pushing through the shin and I been called a liar so many times
Same. Idiot surgeon pulled it extremely tight and I have this hard nodules that are supposedly the suture knots...yours was open surgery yeah?
Real journalism for a change.
So, what's the alternative? Let our intestines fall out? What do you do when the mesh is removed? So basically there is NO solution for hernias. That sucks.
Dude there’s 2 methods of repairing hernias, mesh is the 2nd one that is faster and easier than the original one that acquired skill
@@Sitheonly what’s the other option to repair the hernia ?
@@Sitheonly what the best way?
There's an interview with a surgeon in this very video about an alternative to mesh for hernia surgery. 3:47
Solution is to search for a really good surgeon.
I'm 56 years old and I'm experiencing the same problem my hernia was so big he could put a football through it I've got this giant wire mesh in there that feels like I have a Emery cloth inside me or something I can't explain it it's like having needles constantly sticking you and hurting you it's horrifyingly terrifying be painful
@@lc2453 I'm scheduled for my third surgery October 7th this one exploded
I had a BARD 3D Max mesh put in 2010 for a "Sports hernia" and not only did it do NOTHING to fix the injury, but the mesh has been on recall (no one notified me) and the mesh has already failed. Its folded backwards. I live in the US and visited London last week to see Mr. Marsh (consultant surgeon at the Gilmore groin and hernia clinic) to no avail and am considering seeing the doctor in this video (Dr. Muschaweck). My repair was done laprascopically and it seems no one can get it out when done laprascopically. The pain is brutal. I've balded because of it.
@@gwp4110 The shouldice may create tension with the metal wiring they use which Dr. Tomas describes in his videos. He does the Desarda. I will be seeing Dr. William Meyers who uses dissolvable sutures which in my opinion is the best technique "minimal approach technique." Dr. Muschaweck in this video uses the same technique. Skip the BARD. Mesh does NOT belong in the groin region.
Update: I'm nearly 7wks out of mesh removal and core muscle surgery. There was never a hernia. Just torn muscles. The doctor was able to safely remove 80% of the mesh. I feel better but my pelvis is completely different. Still have a lot of pain and the muscles don't work the same anymore. Hoping it improves over time. Gonna be a long road. It's already been 11 years.
@@vincewarren1271 I had mesh removal with another hernia repair...they took my old mesh out (open procedure) and he put another one in laproscapiclaly because I had a indirect hernia ....I didnt know how bad my old mesh was until it was too late..otherwise I would have said forsure no mesh but this surgeon that did my removal is a really good surgeon and the mesh he used is Progrip so hopefully this one doesnt migrate and shrink and cause meshoma
@@vincewarren1271 Hey, Vince, i saw you were writing on both mesh and hip topics. What was eventually your problem? Did you get a relief from your mesh removal or was your hip causing your problem? What's your current status?
@@Budhardt hip probably needs revised due to metallosis and I still have a lot of pain after mesh removal. Most of it was removed.
mesh has destroyed my life.
Mine too. I'm suffering since 2017 coz of mesh complications. Visited around 50 doctors . All sending me back as if I'm crazy or something
@@Mr-Brown-Wolf you have to keep trying to get it out if it's still in. I had mine removed right before CoV and I had gained about 60 pounds just in inflammation. I was fighting sepsis. Your body will never be able to improve with that poison in you. I'm so sorry this has happened. Please try to get it out, life will never go back to normal but it will get better.
@@canadiancinderelly3518 from where you got it removed? Name of the doctor,details? How are you feeling now? What about the pain?
@@Mr-Brown-Wolf The pain is the pain :( I have to just take things one day at a time. Lots of pain still and it'll be two years shortly for my removal. I had it done at the University of Alberta, pelvic mesh removal.
Yesterday I done my ingunial hernia i pray God see me through and quickly recovering.
Hey how's it going? Did you do the mesh? Any complications?
@@willwill3755 sorry for the late reply. yes i did it but there is no complication yet.
@@thefutureisAfrican Thanks for the reply!
I had these random stinging pain for a year or so, completely gone now. I'm not sure what causes it though. However I would recommend losing weight, as that extra fat will add pressure. Also when I got a mesh inserted, I chose for myself to stretch every single day so the mesh would not turn into a hard lump.
Hey, what kind of stretches would you do?
@@LulluNatic Touch the floor, touch the sky :) Slowly if you just had surgery. It's just a few stretches per day.
@@vBDKv Thank you.
It's been 3 months and I still have groin pain and superficial insensitivity (probably where the mesh ends in the pelvic area). It's not super painful but I can definitely feel it more or less depending on the way I move or sit. Yesterday I was silly enough to think it was ok to dance in my kitchen, nothing crazy, and I slightly twisted my pelvis and it's been even more painful since.
I'm so afraid I will never get back to normal 🥺
(Hope I make sense, I'm French)
@@LulluNatic It took over a year before I could not feel the mesh. It takes a long time sometimes. Other people are back to work after 14 days, which sounds a little crazy to me. Where they cut me open, I basically have no feeling anymore, but it's ok. It's not used for anything :)
@@vBDKv You underwent what seems to be the worst type of procedure in terms of recovery. I had a laparoscopy which is supposed to help recover faster (not for me 🙃). But I'm a woman and I read that women are more likely to suffer from chronic pain after an inguinal hernia surgery... Hope it'll get better soon 🙏
im due for a hernia repair, on a waiting list (not) shockingly, terrified what might happen.
I’m having this surgery next month my doctor reassured me that this problem has been fixed an I didn’t have nothing to worry about with that being said I’m nervous as hell
Try pig skin mesh? It's supposed to be easier on the body. Organic device instead of polypropylene.
How do you feel now since 6 months ago
Update?
Update?
Please update
Thank you for sharing David. I had an umbilical heria mesh 12 days ago. I'm in alot of pain . Am only allowed to take Panadol for pain 3 days from op. Feels like I've been kicked in the belly with steel capped boots. And the aching and stinging is debilitating. Spend most of my time in bed. I walk around the house to get exercise but need to wear a wide belly belt for support. I hope I don't have this pain for life ☹️
How are you now? I just had my umbilical hernia repaired with an absorbable mesh. I'm aware of the consequences of mesh and was going to get it without it at first, but my doctor told me the recurrance rate is much higher. I don't want to get a hernia again. I exercise a lot, so I ultimately went with mesh.
@@kingsolo5112
Absorbable. Just read about that. So, how long before it dissolves, if that is the correct word?
@@danielasuncion9991 That's correct, it's also called a biological mesh. I was informed that my absorbable mesh (phasix mesh) will typically be completely dissolved around the year mark. This is one main part of the decision I made when choosing the absorbable mesh.
@@kingsolo5112was that in the UK? NHS? I’m due to have to the surgery in a few months
@@kingsolo5112 But will the previous hernia place still be strong after the mesh is completely absorbed or dissolved? Will it be easy to be torn open again?
Living, stretching tissue obstructed by a relatively stiff synthetic mesh. What could possibly go wrong? Everything.
this is vincent from kenya i was done hernia operation i was kept the mesh it has been painful since then have taken lots of pain killers untill today but i need help on removing the mesh
Gosh I really feel for David. Wonder how he is today. Anna Collinson, the reporter, needs to do a follow up story.
Poor David! Really sorry for you mate..had my hernia done nearly two years ago and chose to have the incision rather than keyhole. In my total ignorance I felt that it would be easier for the surgeon to place the mesh correctly that way. It went well ( although I didn't realise how long it would take to heal up and for me to regain sensation in that area after the nerves were cut - over a year). Apart from a few dull twinges now and then I seem to be ok and I wonder how it is possible to be precise with that mesh when you can't actually see it properly.
Hey my thinking is the same as yours, that the incision route might be better than the belly button. I haven't spoken with a Surgeon yet though. Does it make a difference, incision vs belly button? I just want it done in the best mechanical way possible.
Im 15 and im suffering from the same thing now,had a bilateral inguinal hernia left one was normal for my age and the right one was more direct.10 months later i am still unable to do lots of things without pains.I hope you get better David as I can understand what you mean.
Hi! i have been recently found wiyh inguinal hernia on left side by mere coincidence when i went to doctor . there has been slight pains then and now from my childhood (like 7 yrs old) but the pain fades off very quickly and i thought it was a muscle cramp then ! only now they say its hernia! they said about laprosocpic surgery! but after seeing this video , im feeling terrified! One person says he lost his erection! another person is saying he has more than 3 recureences...(in comment session). can u give me some insights pls!
@@padmanabanravi9896 I believe the failure rate is about 13% doctors say,It is not an enjoyable experience.But I believe most people should be fine after it.I just think the odd few like me have fallen unlucky.I would definitely recommend to get it repaired if you can.Hopefully you should recover well,for the first few days you are bedbound at home although you might find you can walk small distances at a slow pace.After about a week or so you should be moving a bit better.Just keep moving and stretching and it should go well.Like i said its a 87% success rate and a 13% fail rate.I think it is worth taking the risk.
I’ve had urination problems and bladder pain since my inguil hernia repair with mesh, I have been back and forth to doctors who can’t find any UTIs, STDs, Kidney or Prostate problems. I asked them if it could be a problem due to my hernia operation and they say no way. It’s really frustrating and my life is quite shite now.
It's not in your head and it's probably not a urinary issue. Read this article, facebook.com/notes/mesh-problems/list-of-doctors-who-remove-hernia-mesh/971281296236148 Within it is a list of surgeons who remove mesh. Look up hernia mesh advocates on a search engine like Google and join some of the boards. Your typical doctor won't help. I'm in the same boat but I'm finally getting this terrible mesh product removed. My mesh worked initially but only for three years. Then it failed. Since the failure, I have had 16 years of pain and not one doctor or Urologist thought my issues could be coming from mesh. They're just not educated within this area yet. It's coming... there are too many sufferers like us.
I'm updating my comment. I just had my right inguinal mesh removed two and a half weeks ago and I no longer have ANY chronic pain. Additionally, I stopped all pain medicine and I only have a little soreness from where the new incision is. I did have a serious complication immediately following the surgery (bowel loop and obstruction) that required an immediate second surgery, so I will admit there are some serious risks with getting the mesh removed. My mesh was entangled in my intestine, spermatic cord, and nerves and required a 5 hour surgery to remove. Consider the risks before getting it out but I need to spread the word that the mesh was my ENTIRE problem (and it's likely yours). My urinary problems have gone away as well. Additionally, my blood pressure came down considerably and I no longer have leg pain. PM me if you need the name of my surgeon.
@@jvh1528 Amazing
Hernias get worse over time if left untreated though? So non treatment isnt an option. But if this mesh is literally crippling people, then the mesh isnt an option either. What other ways are there to fix inguinal, and other types of hernias that dont include using mesh???
@@Kumari_44 I'm wondering the same thing lol. I was about to get surgery a month from now but idk...
This is scaring me. I'm getting a consult on this matter.
I have just gotten home from an inguinal open mesh repair and I am #! *! #g myself.
i had hiatus hernia op for large hernia my breating has improved 100 p cent as got told i had copd 12 years ago think it was b cause of my hernia than copd as never smoked b for op i had problems eating a meal as it would get traped in hernia pain was horrendus till it digested my op was 7 months ago mine was a nissan fund with out the mesh
Can a good plastic surgeon correct the ingrown umbilical mesh and any adhesions?
Makes one wonder how many patients had this surgery with mesh and had no problems? Vaginal mesh patients had problems as well.
thats what I have the pain straight after and for weeks after was chronic, now I have a constant dragging and pain
I was going to have a polypropylene mesh implanted in 2 weeks, but I decided to postpone the surgery.
My hernia is small (28mm) and doesn't bother me too much for now.
Any advice? absorbable mesh? Surgery without mesh? Do nothing and just check regularly it doesn't grow too much?
Hey, checking in. May I ask what you ended up doing?
@@wes8246Sure. I went through Biohernia services to get in touch with Dr. Martin Wiese who operates in Kelkheim, Germany. Kelkheim is a small town near Frankfurt airport, which is very convenient. I was finally operated on by this very friendly and experienced surgeon last year. He’s German but also speaks English and French. He did a Shouldice using both permanent and bio-absorbable sutures.
My surgeon in France could have operated on me with a Shouldice technique too but, as most of the surgeons, he does not practice this type of surgery regularly. He told me he made only three Shouldice on previous year and it was the same for all the other surgeons in my country (and apparently, it's the same in many other countries from what I see). I guess that as they mostly often implant meshes, they do this Shouldice technique very rarely when Dr. Wiese and another surgeon near Berlin make hundreds every year.
We already eat, drink and inhale too much plastic. We can even absorb it directly through the skin. A recent study showed that we have microplastics in atherosclerotic plaques. So, there is no need to add more plastic in our body by implanting a mesh in our belly. I assume it's simpler for the surgeons and financially benefits both the surgeons and the mesh vendors but don't necessarily benefit the patients.
Unless there are medical reasons, like being obese with a big, distended belly, it's best to avoid the mesh surgery...
It's my opinion, not a medical advice. Before booking a flight to Frankfurt or Berlin, consult your GP or your surgeon and explain you are "a bit" reluctant to have a mesh implanted in your abdomen. Ask your surgeon how often he uses non-mesh techniques to repair hernia.
Even if you feel very fine a couple of months after the surgery, you are not. The wound needs way more time to totally heal. Don't do stupid things like heavy squats or, like I did, a high jump taking off on the wrong leg!
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
What you did??
@@benthoughts28 Strange thing I thought I already answered to wes8246 earlier. I guess my post was censored for some reason (precise location, names). I will then answer again with less details about the surgery.
I had a Shoudice surgery in Germany at the end of 2023. No mesh was implanted in my abdomen 😅. I live in France where, apparently, surgeons almost systematically use meshes. So, even if they can do a Shouldice, they don't do it more than a couple of times a year and then aren't as well trained as my German surgeon who does something like 300 Shouldice a year.
I did a lot of walking the next months after the surgery and now I swim and do strength training almost every day. I also have 2 very intense sessions of Norwegian 4x4 every week on my home trainer.
I have I think 4 mesh 4 operations after supposed to only have one surgery and I have terrible stomach pain every morning I get up it takes me about 20 to 30mins before I can get up out my bed. Even then sharp pains run through my stomach daily
If you have Inguinal hernia surgery on the NHS will they always use mesh, or is it possible to have the traditional type of repair without mesh?
I feel your pain amigo I got my surgery 2 months ago and still hurt a little bit
Phew. Im kinda glad i moved my hernia surgery to a month from now. Anyone have any other ideas to help with the hernia or other solutions ?
shouldice hospital in Toronto
I was just told to have surgery today but he didn't mention mesh. I am going to get a second opinion and see what else can be done. What replies did you get. Did you have the surgery.
@@wellinever1558 I actually didn't get the surgery lol. I've just been chillin cus it hasn't been bothering me
This is what am going through right now, I had umbilical hernia surgery in 2021, since then, things re never the same again to me. I had mesh placed in and when am in my mp,it ‘s always struggle to go through with all kind of pain. I have seen my family doctor several times and surgeon scheduled me for Ct scan and I wasn’t called or given any results for the checkup, and I got bill for all the test and I called the hospital several times and called for result nobody responded to me and I don’t know what else I should do. What a struggle?
Hoping things are better for you now.🙏
I have just had an inguinal hernia surgery using the mesh application . After 2 weeks I am very swollen and worried whether I will be like this poor fella ! I was lucky enough to have a highly recommended surgeon so 🤞
Hey, how's it going after six weeks? Any complications.
Hernias get worse over time if left untreated though? So non treatment isnt an option. But if this mesh is literally crippling people, then the mesh isnt an option either. What other ways are there to fix inguinal, and other types of hernias that dont include using mesh??? I havnt had the surgery yet btw.
Lots say it can go untreated talk with someone tho
This video was made 5 years ago, how is the situation now? Has it been improved a lot? What is the most advanced way available now for treating hernia? I'm going to have this surgery a week later. My doctor suggested I choose bio-absorbable mesh and fixing material to keep the mesh in place, which will cost $3k+. My hernia openning is 0.8cm. I am so scared now that I've heard so many defects about mesh usage.
How are you holding up? Is the mesh bothering you?
How r u now??
im freaking out as i just had this procedure done yesterday!😰
update?
Yes update please?
I have a hernia mesh and I’ve been fine for 4 years. It’s a standard procedure
I'm sorry to hear this. My immune system is crashing from the mesh.
Me too, I had 3 hernias done with mesh, I didn't know he was going to use mesh 😥
My friend has a groin hernia and was wondering if he should go for the op
the inrernal sutures in my esh operation penertrates the skin making red marks where the sutures pop out and pop in making it very real a risk of infection , but they said its a small risk im in pain all the time very bad
I suffer every day pain discomfort depression anxiety lost of social interaction
I had hernia surgery three weeks
ago l am suffering lot of pain.
I had a hernia surgery in 2022 in the US, now in 2024, two years later, my pain is getting worse and worse. The surgeon said there’s nothing wrong but my life has become a nightmare. Pains I never had before are now my daily struggle. I regret taking the surgery and wished I stayed with my hernia.
What the best way to cure a hernia then?? I watched the video but I’m still not clear on the answer
Locust hypnosis made a comment above that lists 3 alternatives. I'm curious about it too since I'm considering surgery
there are no plastic solutions to everything.
@@andybvt what do you mean no plastic solution up everything
What
Hernia may cured by surgery, if diagnosed to it, doctor may recommend and don't wait too long hernia to grow🤔🤔 everybody is differnt but Hernia will block where blood circulates/flow
Update scheduled for my third hernia wiremesh surgery the last one exploded
My doctors have recommended me a mesh for umbilical hernia, should I not do it? What are the alternatives if you don’t get the mesh?
Its not so much the mesh as it is the bodies reaction to the mesh. Once the scar tissue starts to form, nerves can become entrapped causing the nerve firing pain impulses.
My mesh has caused me heart palpations and general chronic pain. I am debating having surgery to remove the screws holding the mesh in, and possibly getting the mesh out. The problem is they now say the mesh has now grown into my tissue, so I am not sure what I can do. It is crazy they let this continue with the complication rates.
Thanks, I would research every option available before getting a mesh, and do not let them put the metal screws in your abs...
Not really, I have learned to mostly control the heart palpations it causes with slow breathing techniques, but still have chronic dull pain, and sharp pain if I do something stupid like twist my torso...
Thanks Leon, you are probably the kindest stranger I have come across on CZcams. Both my wife and I suffer from autoimmune conditions, so we are both on anti-inflammatory diets. I also am in the process of starting a supplement company to help people with chronic conditions like ours (www.OmegaPrize.com).
I will look into the other method you mentioned for hernia repair. Thanks again!
Is this issue with the recent surgeries as well? My mother too got mesh last month in India?
Yes.
key hole or open??
@@kkerala4078 it was keyhole surgery.
Imran Ali for my mom it was open surgery and its been 12 years, no issues.
@@kkerala4078 good to know. Wish her healthy life. I hope my mother do not have any issues just little concerned after watching this video.
Is it better to not go for a surgery then or go for the non mesh surgery?
God bless you David 🙏🏻😢😘I live with transvaginal Mesh. I had mine removed 2012. I know your pain 😢the benefits do not outweigh the risks ☝️💜💜💜💜I wish I could fly you to the U.S. for removal by Dr. Peterson in Vegas .❤️
Does this have a solution?
Nicolás Marsá a fruit-based diet works for me to manage to a degree (I still have complications, but they are much more manageable and less life-threatening). Fruits have everything we need to combat the effects of the mesh: living water, astringents, and clean-burning, easily digestible fuel.
@@gwp4110 This sounds great maybe i will try it.
@@salahhamze any links to this claim? Scientific explanations?
i’m going through this right now
I’m at the hospital at this moment with a bad affection
hope your ok, when did you have the surgery?
How are you now?
I'm not sure if this will help but look up Anthony Williams of Medical Medium. He might have the way to help you out.
What good does it do for Johnson & Johnson to constantly monitor their products on the market if they "can't" do anything to relieve the misery of patients suffering the consequences of J&J's failures?
what should I do?
I’ve been doing at least 2-3 hernia surgery per week for last 5 years and had one one complication till date. A diabetic patient developed seroma.
Key here is minimising unnecessary tissue handling, use of GA over LA to get good muscle relaxation and exposure during surgery , asking patients not to indulge in strenuous activity for first 3 months after surgery to let the mesh settle in with surrounding tissue , use ultra light weight and microporous mesh, use less suturing to fix mesh ( reducing risk of taking bites on sensitive tissue causing chronic pain post operative period ), making sure the mesh is tension free and wrinkled (so it doesn’t hamper patient mobility) and lastly I prefer tissue repair over mesh whenever there is good strength in the tissue of the patient.
When David said he was always a big bloke a strong guy~ I can understand. It's very hard to not be able to do the things you once did~especially when your still young enough to do them. I have always lifted weights, not only for heath, but for size and shape, my self esteem is directly tied to my body. I'm scheduled for hernia repair surgery in a week ~ after seeing this, IM SCARED TO DEATH. The thought of losing size and going through life being a scrawny geek with women laughing at me is a horrific thought.
Happened to me. I had 2 hernias with mesh and now the complications on the left side which are ignored. The gains stay but this just sucks. If I knew I would go without mesh aa it is much easier to get another hernia surgery if it reccurs rather than remove the mesh.
I was on naproxen 500 and now I'm on 600's ibuprofen
My double hernia has the mesh and zero problems and no discomfort.
Yes Sure -did you have any testicle swelling in the first few weeks after surgery?
I had same procedure 2 weeks ago and im loosing my ming
SG Surge How’s it going now? I had mine done 2 days ago.
Chris Kousky pretty good im back to work lifting heaving heavy again no problems so far!
Except since after i had my surgery ive been fairly cold most days is this the same for you or no?
SG Surge No, I’ve stayed the normal temperature as before. I had my surgery 3 days ago and i’m back to walking. The pain isn’t that bad. I’m just praying that in the future I don’t have mesh problems. My procedure took 3 hours because my anatomy was different than what they thought. I’m a 13 year old and hope that I can recover soon to get back to my sports.
If u r in pain. Then mesh removal is the only option to reduce pain.
I had right inguinal hernia surgery with polymer mesh causing pain in 2 years.
It's a silent pain. When I sit it pains.
It pains like broken glasses.
Terrible feeling of pain. No one is listening of my pain.
But I know mesh is causing pain inside my body .
Jesus take me up I am waiting......?
I had chronic pain caused by hernia mesh for 16 years and no doctors would listen to me either. Fortunately, after a very long wait, I found a couple of docs who would. I just had my right inguinal mesh removed two and a half weeks ago and I no longer have ANY chronic pain. Additionally, I stopped all pain medicine and I only have a little soreness from where the new incision is. (I did have a serious complication immediately following the surgery (bowel loop and obstruction) that required an immediate second surgery, so I will admit there are some serious risks with getting the mesh removed). My mesh was entangled in my intestine, spermatic cord, and nerves and required a 5 hour surgery to remove. Consider the risks before getting it out but I need to spread the word that the mesh was my ENTIRE problem (and it's likely yours). My urinary problems have gone away as well. Additionally, my blood pressure came down considerably and I no longer have leg pain. PM me if you need the name of my surgeon.
Any better now ?
Just had a hernia op a week ago few jacky pains I think it might b internal stitching but your in a bad situe david and I noticed they should round of corners and not
Implant square ones wish u a good conclusion MrT
I’m 23 and have had 2 umbilical hernia repair surgeries after both of my births. Now they said they found a new hernia. Idk what to do anymore. I heard about a type of hernia repair that doesn’t require a mesh though. Called shouldice. Might see if my insurance will pay for that. I just know I don’t need a third mesh.
A good surgeon wouldn't use mesh... Always do your own research
Unfortunately many many, if not most, surgeons are just downright greedy people who couldn't care less about the poor patients they are cutting into. It's all the modern mainstream "medical" system, especially the "schools"!
i wen to three different surgeons and a hospital and everyone of them want to use a mesh
But what are the alternatives? What. Questions to ask. It’s a mind field.
What else would you put in there mister smarty pants
Mesh not match
how is david today, anyone knows?
My Hernia is so so Big, its three years still not had my operation
I don't want to be like this . I don't want to go out , don't want to feel like frankenstine Wife, my stoma is really bad. Can't bend down to put on my socks on ,do my shoes up, wash and dry my feet, cut my toe nails.
There is a lot i can't do,
I understand this man pains and his for-striation. Because you just feel some how inside of you when you telling your doctor things and they just act like they don’t believe you. Or make you feel like you just like to come with new sickness. For I have my on problems that when I went to my doctor and the way he talks to me just, make me want to stop going back to him
Never get the surgical mesh. I suggest reading, "In the net" an article by Harpers Magazine. My recovery took over 3 months and 3 years later, my immune system is crashing from the mesh. No one talks about this. The largest maker of mesh, Medtronic/Covidien was also part of the largest corporate tax inversion in American history. Medtronic. The current surgical meshes being used have not been FDA approved. The current meshes are only being used under the 501 (k) approval process. Bio-absorbable tacks are also not FDA approved and are causing major problems. This whole surgical mesh industry is a scam.
We have seen animals suffer of plastic inte there body in the nature why do we put plastic synthetic mesh in our human body. I thin I got epigastric hernia, I have been google so much to get so much information before I go to doctor. The thought of getting a synthetic mesh in my body make me feel uncomfortable and pain about the thoughts.
Hope that David get help to remove the mesh. So he can get rid of the pain
Also in extreme pain after 2 times surgery with mesh.
24 hours in pain and discomfort.
Removal of mesh will recurrence hernia or worse. Don't know what to do anymore.
@@lc2453
No improvement. Surgeon advices not to remove mesh.
To much risk of hernia recurrence and scar tissue problems after five times surgery
hello. i have been suffering from terrible groin and scrotum pain nearly 8 months after Lichtenstein mesh inguinal hernia repair.( open surgery was performed on april 2020 in Azerbaijan). I lost my job cause i can not work with pain, sperm production reduced tripple, i can not live normal life, walk and sit. Most of the time i am forced to spend my time in my bed. could you please recommend me a professional surgeon who is perfectly dealing with mesh removal surgery?
Mesh removal is a complex surgery but it's a common procedure nowadays . You should search for a experienced surgeon who is dealing with that but this redo surgery is not free from risks. So, consider for surgery if benefit is noticible than post operative complications.
@@sisirmandal1795 i know about risks. Risks are cut nerves which is nightmare and not reversible. Experienced surgeons say they will cut the nerves most likely.. patients are regret of letting them cut the nerves. So i am in between pain and fear of neurectomy while mesh removal..
@@muslimfrombaku triple nurotomy/neurolysis & as a result of that some symptoms are common like numbness & paresthesia(abnormal sensation & tingling) over thighs, scrotum and groin area. Over the period some symptoms will subside, so, it's not big issue. The main issues related to this type of redo surgery are testicular vessel & injury to cord structures, because those are already integrated to mesh due to fibrous tissue growth, if injured then it may lead to compromised testicular blood supply & subsequently testicular ischemia/atrophy.Other complications are risks of injury to major blood vessels but a experience & skilled surgeon is able to minimize the risk. Once mesh is removed then usually recommended for non mesh tissue repair at the same procedure(if surrounding tissues are not badly effected due to previous scar). This type of surgery takes more time & hospital stay.
@@sisirmandal1795 are you a surgeon? Can you write down your fb profile address or whatsapp number, email.? I need your further advise. I am in horrible pain