Steph Curry or Magic Johnson: Who has had the bigger impact on the NBA? First Take debates

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  • The First Take crew debate if Stephen Curry or Magic Johnson has had the bigger impact on the NBA.
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  • @EdwardGGaming
    @EdwardGGaming Před 9 měsíci +13

    Magic - Showtime
    Steph - Three point revolution
    Magic saved the NBA alongside with Larry, but Steph changed the entire basketball perspective worldwide

  • @bhuvneshkhare6375
    @bhuvneshkhare6375 Před 9 měsíci +17

    This has to be the most civil debate ever on first take where they kinda agreed with each other and just added valid points to other’s arguments

  • @mabantafranco
    @mabantafranco Před 9 měsíci +260

    I'm the biggest Steph fan in the world (and a Warriors fan for three decades now) but his 4 rings, 6 finals and 2 MVPs can't be put next to Magic's 5 rings, 9 finals and 3 MVPs. You can argue that Steph changed the game forever, but to be fair, the Showtime Lakers did too. Magic is still unequivocally the greatest point guard of all time, but Steph does have another 4-5 seasons left in him so fingers crossed he surpasses!

    • @user-dc7um4pr3f
      @user-dc7um4pr3f Před 9 měsíci +22

      It's the Finals MVPs too. Magic with 3 and his first as a rookie. Steph just now got one in his early to mid 30s.

    • @jamessmith7909
      @jamessmith7909 Před 9 měsíci +4

      FACTS!

    • @bobt9705
      @bobt9705 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@user-dc7um4pr3fThe OP mentioned the MVPs as well.

    • @giannisakoumpo
      @giannisakoumpo Před 9 měsíci +4

      A smart warriors fan???

    • @THEREALMOEMONEY
      @THEREALMOEMONEY Před 9 měsíci +20

      Magic had Kareem who is considered a goat let’s be real

  • @mjprelic
    @mjprelic Před 9 měsíci +136

    Magic because he saved the NBA. Him and Bird

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 9 měsíci

      Not true without him bird might become white jordan

    • @ajphelps16
      @ajphelps16 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Steph changed basketball though and how the game itself is played now

    • @mjprelic
      @mjprelic Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@ajphelps16 so did Magic. Magic the first player who actually played 5 positions. And changing the game to a worse product isn't much. The game changes every generation. Jordan changed the game, took it away from the bigs and made it more a wing game. I prefer that style than people jacking up 3s. That's boring to me

    • @mjprelic
      @mjprelic Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@xavierb9061 with no ups

    • @ajphelps16
      @ajphelps16 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@mjprelic as u prefer that’s very subjective whether u think it’s worse or not. it’s still changed. Magic was an anomaly but he didn’t change the game of basketball he changed the NBA.

  • @chesterchambers9643
    @chesterchambers9643 Před 9 měsíci +144

    2 points - Steph changed the NBA, but Magic (along with Larry and Michael) saved the NBA from bankruptcy. Without those 3 there would be no NBA for Steph to change. Second point, you can't coach height. Steph cannot affect the game in as many ways as Magic did. That's not fair, but it is real.

    • @xcwilliams7980
      @xcwilliams7980 Před 9 měsíci +8

      No need to put Mike in there. He didn't save the game. He did take it to the next level tho

    • @radiospines
      @radiospines Před 9 měsíci +1

      You literally just repeated what's in the video

    • @ridaelmoutaoukki2047
      @ridaelmoutaoukki2047 Před 9 měsíci +2

      think about it, steph at only 6'3 dominated the nba alongside lebron

    • @savonsanders3955
      @savonsanders3955 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Steph affects the game with and without the ball in his hands lmao 🤣

    • @westside8514
      @westside8514 Před 9 měsíci +2

      MAGIC AND BIRD , NOT MIKE

  • @fantangosheep
    @fantangosheep Před 9 měsíci +10

    Can tell nothing is happening in sports at the moment Steph made one comment and this same conversation is being had everywhere for a whole week

  • @ocityentertainmentlive5185
    @ocityentertainmentlive5185 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Before Magic noone 6'4 ot above was allowed to bring the ball in the front court. He revolutionized the way teams wanted a big Guard or playmaker to start the offense. Penny Hardaway, and even LeBron is a mirror of Magic. Without Magic, LeBron would be Karl Malone who shoots 3's. So Magic changed the game by allowing big men to control the basketball like a smaller Guard!

    • @Mytowerisaneiffel
      @Mytowerisaneiffel Před 9 měsíci +2

      That’s just not true at all. Plenty of tall players would bring it up the court long before Magic. Magic was just the first to be a starting point guard. I can see The Iceman right now running the break long before Magic was.

    • @marcuscarter-segers6144
      @marcuscarter-segers6144 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Nah there was guys like the big O but magic was the first superstar point forward. He was a great entertainer but he was basically a SF at the 1 who was actually a pure point guard.

    • @nihongochopsocky808
      @nihongochopsocky808 Před 8 měsíci

      Let's not forget Pippen.Pippen was a more athletic Magic.

    • @seanswinton6242
      @seanswinton6242 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@marcuscarter-segers6144I'll say Magic Johnson made passing the basketball cool and popular. He redefined the guard position at his size. Steph did too. Steph makes mere mortals of regular height believe they could reach the NBA.

  • @zellodavis8453
    @zellodavis8453 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Steph changed how the game is played at every level. As soon as the kids are strong enough to shoot, they learn to play the game the way that Steph has popularized it now. I know some people hate this but it’s true.

    • @BourneKnight
      @BourneKnight Před 9 měsíci +2

      I feel as though the splash bros as a unit changed the game, not just curry.

    • @thedragon1363
      @thedragon1363 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Steph changed how it has been played on every level and magic change how the game is watched on every level

    • @BourneKnight
      @BourneKnight Před 9 měsíci

      @@thedragon1363 No he didn’t. The Warriors offense changed the style of play, credit to Mark Jackson.

    • @ctd4sure
      @ctd4sure Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@BourneKnight I love Klay but there’s levels to this. A catch and shoot player is far from what Steph is. Y’all need to go have a lecture or 2 hour film session on the kinda shots this brother takes and makes consistently at his height. Klay is another Reggie Miller at 6’7” which ain’t bad but pls, they are at different levels offensively

    • @thedragon1363
      @thedragon1363 Před 9 měsíci

      @@BourneKnight you mean the offense built around curry? With same logic its not magic it's the coach n the rest of the Lakers that impacted the game

  • @Jinz3
    @Jinz3 Před 9 měsíci +8

    The one who's not called by his real name yet everybody still knows who we're talking about. The greatest PG ever.

  • @miguellafortune
    @miguellafortune Před 9 měsíci +149

    Magic and Bird literally saved the NBA…no magic…NBA is not where it is today…meaning there’s a chance we wouldn’t even have Steph

    • @Realm35
      @Realm35 Před 9 měsíci +28

      They changed the NBA. Steph changed Basketball

    • @skineyemin4276
      @skineyemin4276 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Well, Dr. J was the first to wake up the NBA, then.., Magic and Bird.

    • @giannisakoumpo
      @giannisakoumpo Před 9 měsíci

      Or bron

    • @epvendetta
      @epvendetta Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@skineyemin4276ya.... Dr J had everyone's imagination for sure.

    • @epvendetta
      @epvendetta Před 9 měsíci +1

      No NBA, no Dell, no Steph.

  • @JayVenom
    @JayVenom Před 9 měsíci +8

    Steph is great, revolutionized the game. Changed the game. Then..his name is Magic. People forget his name is Earvin. He and Bird
    saved an entire league. That’s IMPACT.

    • @user-iam222ohyeah
      @user-iam222ohyeah Před 9 měsíci +4

      no, that's marketing

    • @dee-5297
      @dee-5297 Před 9 měsíci +1

      That's all it's about. When you go to the past, they wanna bring up Larry Bird because they're extinct today. That's the 80s American Europeans don't evolve, so what do the media do? Try to take us to the past. Nobody wants to play like Magic Johnson. Nobody wants to watch Michael Jordan play John Stockton, that's garbage evolve.

  • @LoPoBunny
    @LoPoBunny Před 9 měsíci +19

    The thing is, Magic's charisma on and off the court is really unmatched to this day.

    • @JudgementDayisBetter
      @JudgementDayisBetter Před 8 měsíci +2

      He’s a horrible father he should be in jail for child abuse on his son

  • @sean24833
    @sean24833 Před 9 měsíci +34

    Magic saved the game of the basketball

    • @jrbarajas4436
      @jrbarajas4436 Před 9 měsíci

      Shut up and get off your knees he made the game boring. Chuckin up 3’s from half court like nothing. Yes it takes skill but NBA WAS FUN when it was aggressive and defensive

    • @Irvin2500
      @Irvin2500 Před 9 měsíci

      😂😂😂

    • @MoneyMadeKade
      @MoneyMadeKade Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@Irvin2500you laughing but him and Bird actually brought the NBA back

    • @sean24833
      @sean24833 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MoneyMadeKade magic and bird saved basketball that's documented literally

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@sean24833 ...Absolutely!!!

  • @kervensjnpaul7796
    @kervensjnpaul7796 Před 9 měsíci +31

    Magic definitely had the biggest impact in the league. Alongside Bird to help it be as marketable as it is. Steph’s impact is on the whole sport of basketball

    • @jessicagalvan3358
      @jessicagalvan3358 Před 9 měsíci +3

      That part steph change it across the world then Asians didn’t know magic they wanted be like Mike not magic then after Mike curry dog

    • @datsapaddlin
      @datsapaddlin Před 9 měsíci

      @@jessicagalvan3358 Magic and Bird are the reason they started to have games played live and not on tape delay and got the money for the league to showcase MJ. They saved the declining league for everyone else to have a platform.

    • @dee-5297
      @dee-5297 Před 9 měsíci

      Aint nobody trying to play like Magic Johnson. Aint nobody trying to be like those dudes in the past. Today's basketball is way better. Nobody wanna watch Magic Johnson, kissing Isaiah. Thomas. Nobody wanna watch Michael Jordan versus John Stockton. We want to see dominating israelites and 2 overseas Europeans. American Europeans are extinct today. That's why basketball is beautiful. And they don't evolve, so you go back to the 80s and talk about Larry Bird with them

    • @alexgoins6924
      @alexgoins6924 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@dee-5297bro, the game has changed for the worse. Players don't know how to run a proper fast break, no mid range jumpers, flopping and foul baiting, stars teaming up for the sole purpose of ring counts, lacking the basic fundamentals, etc. Sorry but the style of basketball being played today is garbage.

  • @leontteilc9527
    @leontteilc9527 Před 9 měsíci

    That fast break post up highlight @1:18 is wild! 😂 😂 😂

  • @SosaA11
    @SosaA11 Před 9 měsíci +20

    Magic has become underrated lmao that’s nuts

    • @jqa16
      @jqa16 Před 9 měsíci

      No defense can't shoot ofc kids don't like him.

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@jqa16magic cant shoot? says who?

    • @davidjames6036
      @davidjames6036 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@jqa16 lol curry is tiny with awful defense😂😂, magic is way better

    • @Lean12265
      @Lean12265 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@davidjames6036Curry cooked Ben Simmons,he will also cook magic

    • @JudgementDayisBetter
      @JudgementDayisBetter Před 8 měsíci +1

      Overrated and a horrible father he should be in jail

  • @ROB_AGT
    @ROB_AGT Před 9 měsíci +7

    They both impacted the NBA in great ways. Magic Johnson & Larry Bird saved the NBA from pretty much possibly going out of business. Magic brought showtime to the nba that led to fans coming back to watch some nba. Even people who didn’t watch basketball. As I typed all this perk & swagoo are literally saying what I’m typing out 2 seconds later is actually scary

    • @kingggnova4544
      @kingggnova4544 Před 9 měsíci +3

      The Lakers with magic is showtime. Curry by himself is showtime basketball. Curry made a lot of people that didn’t watch basketball start watching to. Curry is more fun to watch, and because he’s so short makes it even more impressive.

  • @nellyville69
    @nellyville69 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Stephen curry is one if not the top god giving talented athlete ever but Earvin magic Johnson was a winner his energy and aura was contagious 💯.

  • @souljaboi81
    @souljaboi81 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Steph is my all time greatest pg, but i always wondered how much social media and recency bias affected my decision.

  • @UFACIL
    @UFACIL Před 9 měsíci +56

    Magic had a bigger impact. There's a chance there wouldn't even be a league for Curry to play in without him.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not true len bias...could have been better jordan...always some 1 else

    • @jakeadams7183
      @jakeadams7183 Před 9 měsíci

      A chance but we don’t know that, steph curry changed how the game is played. Teams get to emulate that style of play. Kids literally fill gyms to see the guy shoot the ball.

    • @lloydbazar
      @lloydbazar Před 9 měsíci +1

      Steph just opened up the flood gates of NBA's future, now because of him, short guys are inspired that they can be at the top too. That's a whole lot of demographics opened up by step. I don't have to be a physical marvel now to make it. That's a different level of Impact rather than just hypothetically saying there wouldn't be a steph coz of magic.

    • @CalebWilliams2030
      @CalebWilliams2030 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They both changed the game in different eras. Steph sits in chairs and drains shots from 40 ft. He revolutionized the 3pt shot.

    • @LordoftheTHOTs
      @LordoftheTHOTs Před 9 měsíci

      We’re going to pretend that jordan was drafted 4 years after magic.

  • @triodesrbetter
    @triodesrbetter Před 9 měsíci +11

    Even as a Bay Area native, gotta say Magic. Between Magic and Bird, it's still mostly Magic, but without these two, the world wouldn't be the same.

  • @DB-rp4im
    @DB-rp4im Před 9 měsíci +4

    No one from this era is better than those guys.....

  • @builttoughtv9181
    @builttoughtv9181 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Solid take perk 😎

  • @PrazanExpat
    @PrazanExpat Před 9 měsíci +3

    What would Magic have been without Kareem, Worthy, and Scott? Take a look at Game 6 of the 1980 Finals for a clue, in which he played without Kareem, Worthy, or Scott: 42 points, 15 boards, 7 assists, 3 steals. This is not to detract from Steph at all, who remains the best shooter all time, no question.

    • @rubianezekeil6186
      @rubianezekeil6186 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Stephen A acting like Stephen Curry dont have a pieces around him like the Showtime lakers. If Curry dont have klay and draymond what would be the outcome of his career?

    • @dee-5297
      @dee-5297 Před 9 měsíci +1

      FACTS......

    • @dee-5297
      @dee-5297 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@rubianezekeil6186Stuff of scorn machine, though the problem with you guys in the past is you act like you could see the past, but you can't see today. You can tell us about Larry Bird, but there's no larry bird today. You can tell us about Magic Johnson who caught AIDS. You all need to shut up and stop following the media and come back to 2023. Where's dominating israelites? There's no American Europeans today, so you have to go back there. And talk about Magic Johnson and Larry Bird with people that don't evolve.

    • @JudgementDayisBetter
      @JudgementDayisBetter Před 8 měsíci

      Overrated player and horrible father

  • @MoneyMadeKade
    @MoneyMadeKade Před 9 měsíci +55

    They both impacted the game in different ways, and their playstyles are completely different. Magic is the the best *pure* point guard, and Curry is the best *combo* guard of all time.

    • @SamuelJ888
      @SamuelJ888 Před 9 měsíci +2

      as a Curry fan, I can agree with that

    • @nachos92392
      @nachos92392 Před 9 měsíci +10

      curry impacted the game for the worst, now many games are hard to watch , its just a 3 point shooting context for 48 min

    • @MoneyMadeKade
      @MoneyMadeKade Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@nachos92392 I mean what did you expect? As time goes on things change. Obviously mid range and paint play wasn’t gonna last forever and eventually fade out.

    • @TOKYO9AIN
      @TOKYO9AIN Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@nachos92392nobody wanna watch centers back down for 48 mins . Keep that in the 80s

    • @raheemwilson894
      @raheemwilson894 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Steph is a PG, stop the combo guard nonsense

  • @zepcrazyfre
    @zepcrazyfre Před 9 měsíci +3

    It’s just not easy for me to choose between Curry and Magic…they are both Living Legends;

  • @blogan3845
    @blogan3845 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I think Magic was a true legend. I think the same is true of Steph. Everybody always brings up Stephen lack of height as a negative, but I honestly think it only adds to Steph's greatness. Consider for a second that he has won 4 rings in the Lebron James era and that he may be the greatest NBA player ever under 6'5

  • @arthurwright255
    @arthurwright255 Před 9 měsíci

    I have heard of both of these players and both are really good.

  • @Hasani751
    @Hasani751 Před 9 měsíci +21

    Magic and Bird saved the NBA…if it weren’t for them the country wouldn’t have been tuned into basketball. Magic no debate.

    • @rcruz-zu4sm
      @rcruz-zu4sm Před 9 měsíci

      They would have been another race war to fuel the nba

    • @CalebWilliams2030
      @CalebWilliams2030 Před 9 měsíci

      Best to see yet is how players like Wemby and Scoot will impact the league in the next 5-10 yrs.

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician Před 9 měsíci

      But thats 2 players impact vs 1

    • @PWCDN
      @PWCDN Před 5 měsíci

      @@CalebWilliams2030Jokic is doing the most now and nobody talks about it. Talk about marketing

  • @marilyncatterall402
    @marilyncatterall402 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Steph has changed the way many teams play in the NBA, but Magic is one of the main reasons that the NBA is watched and followed by a worldwide audience of over a billion. Without Magic, Bird and Jordan, the NBA is watched by 5 million people in the USA.

  • @neozeroluminatti7619
    @neozeroluminatti7619 Před 9 měsíci +9

    The rivalry between Magic and Bird. Magic saved the NBA from its darkest age in 1979

  • @Progessive_G
    @Progessive_G Před 9 měsíci

    2:41 LOL 😂

  • @wavefacekillah
    @wavefacekillah Před 9 měsíci +18

    If magic played in this era at his position more apposing than curry cause of his height and size and curry is on 6,3 people would still say magic the best point guard

    • @igm1201
      @igm1201 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Dude - to be a point guard in this era you need consistent outside shooting and at least a 38% at 3 point shooting. I don’t know how Magic’s shooting is but we have Ben Simmons who is at almost 6’10” and the dude is almost out of the NBA - Simmons was an all star and all defensive team. But the dude can’t shoot

    • @bailey5234
      @bailey5234 Před 9 měsíci

      iN tHiS eRa

    • @LordoftheTHOTs
      @LordoftheTHOTs Před 9 měsíci

      I’m a professional athlete(idgaf if you believe me or not). Steph is 6’5, he’s just mad skinny. And that is why he is as good as he is. Because he is tall.

    • @dee-5297
      @dee-5297 Před 9 měsíci

      Why do you keep trying to compare Stiff black men in the past to these athletic brothers. Today, nobody wants to watch Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Only American Europeans and brain wash negroes we in 2023. You're talking about 80s basketball because a white man played. You can't play today, it's the best it's ever been. And all the media try to do is take us back to the past. Because American Europeans don't evolve.....TODAYS BASKETBALL IS WAYYYYYY BETTER

  • @zoradelaney9412
    @zoradelaney9412 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Tough one, but I'll go with Magic. Without Magic (along with Bird), there wouldn't have been an NBA **in the first place** for Steph to play in because the league was near bankruptcy....

  • @kabelotshita4510
    @kabelotshita4510 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The 3 point shot is spectacular when Steph does it, anyone else it doesn’t hold the same weight, the change that has come with teams mandating 3 point shooters admit it or not has its negative and you might disagree but has kinda taken away some of the spectacular things some players in the Game are incredible at, I feel that robs us of an opportunity to see people do amazing things in the game, the 3 point shot is only valued cause it accumulates to a wealth of points. The game is not as entertaining as it could be

  • @landofthedreadheads8901
    @landofthedreadheads8901 Před 9 měsíci

    1980 Gm 6 20 year old rookie nuff said, my favorite NBA player all time and greatest pg of all time

  • @ChrisSullins
    @ChrisSullins Před 9 měsíci +4

    Both had the impact. Steph with shooting and Magic with the performance. Nowadays today's players acting like Divas and getting injured all the time.

  • @abiolaolayinka2023
    @abiolaolayinka2023 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Steph had the bigger impact to me. As much as Magic and Larry saved the league. I started watching basketball because I saw a clip of the smallest guy on the court taking down giants wirh his scoring and all-round heliocentric gravity. He made (shorter) people believe they could 'Be like Curry'.
    You can't coach Magic's height, you can't coach is flair but maybe, just maybe you can Be like Wardell.

    • @Mike1122.
      @Mike1122. Před 9 měsíci +1

      Curry isn’t short, he’s 6’3.

    • @datsapaddlin
      @datsapaddlin Před 9 měsíci +2

      You may not know this but everyone wanted to be like Magic or Bird in the 80s. It’s just because Steph is playing rn people wanna be like him and other active players. Not everyone can be like Steph or Magic though.

    • @SouthJerzVillains
      @SouthJerzVillains Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Mike1122.that’s short in basketball lol

  • @dextercorner3942
    @dextercorner3942 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The way i see it Magic was a forward playing PG and could push the ball up court with his size that was never done in the NBA but impact steph all the way cause if you notic everybody shooting 3's like crazy i remember back in the day most team would attempt at least 15 the most as a whole team but now you can have one guy take 15 by himself for the whole game

  • @kingjayofficial10
    @kingjayofficial10 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I am a big fan of Basketball (NBA) because of Steph Curry. I never knew NBA existed before.

  • @SPRVLN27
    @SPRVLN27 Před 9 měsíci +11

    It's definitely Magic. Sure, Steph shot some threes, but you may not even be watching the NBA on TV if it weren't for Bird and Magic.

    • @Jp-et3zm
      @Jp-et3zm Před 9 měsíci +1

      Listen to the hate though “sure he shot some 3s” 😂😂 y’all just can’t help it 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @SPRVLN27
      @SPRVLN27 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@Jp-et3zm because there's a major difference in changing how many three pointers players take versus fixing an entire sport's reputation and making it mainstream.

    • @ctd4sure
      @ctd4sure Před 9 měsíci

      @@SPRVLN27 The issue is Magic is special but it wasn't just him. It was a 50 - 50 thing along along with Bird. And he was surrounded by top 30 players so his passing was rewarded. Steph Curry is a weapon on his own that you need at least 2 people to contain. The impact on players surrounding him is something else. Look at the spacing when Steph is on the court on any team vs other players

    • @SPRVLN27
      @SPRVLN27 Před 9 měsíci

      @ctd4sure I acknowledged Bird in the original comment as well. I honestly think Bird was a better overall player than Magic. And yes, I agree that Magic exclusively played with HOFers most of his career. But the thing is, so did Steph. How many MVPs honestly ever got to play with 2 other Final's MVPs, another regular season MVP, DPOY, Coach of the Year, and anywhere between 4 to 6 current or former all-stars on the team every season. And sure, you may need two people to guard Steph sometimes, but at the same time you essentially need two people to guard Steph's man on defense. Magic wasn't a great defender but he wasn't a complete liability on defense like Steph either.

    • @ctd4sure
      @ctd4sure Před 9 měsíci

      @@SPRVLN27 Now let me ask you this. Magic is great but honest answer; Do you think the Lakers wouldn't win rings if they had Jason Kidd/Chris Paul/Steve Nash? And will GSW win anything without someone like Curry?

  • @xanxus8272
    @xanxus8272 Před 9 měsíci +6

    It's more impressive what Curry was able to do at 6,2 than what Magic was able to do at 6,9. Nonetheless Magic is the best old school PG and Steph is the best new school PG.

    • @Guerrillachop
      @Guerrillachop Před 8 měsíci

      6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s

    • @Guerrillachop
      @Guerrillachop Před 8 měsíci

      6 2 guys play like curry how many 6 9 pgs u see averaging triple doubles, handling the ball, and is versatile and can play all 5 positions that's more impressive to me then someone that just comes off screens and shoot 3s

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome Před 9 měsíci +2

    There’s no wrong answer they both paved the way for the nba we know and love today

    • @xcwilliams7980
      @xcwilliams7980 Před 9 měsíci

      Nah....

    • @nachos92392
      @nachos92392 Před 9 měsíci

      curry didnt do anything, nba was doing just fine when he came into the league

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@nachos92392 troll

    • @nachos92392
      @nachos92392 Před 9 měsíci

      @@SSJRome he actually made it worst , now nba is 48 minute 3 point contest 🤦 🤦‍♂

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@nachos92392 that’s not on steph

  • @partynextosodak
    @partynextosodak Před 9 měsíci +2

    i will never forget that 24-0 start to the 2015-2016 season , nobody won an mvp like steph

    • @user-mc4xg8hf4q
      @user-mc4xg8hf4q Před 9 měsíci

      Tha same year they lost in the finals?😊 Mj da 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

  • @mr.e347
    @mr.e347 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Would Kobe want to play for LA if it wasnt for Magic and the huge showtime era period?

    • @Dabherenthere
      @Dabherenthere Před 9 měsíci +2

      There’s no way Shaq, Kobe and now Lebron would’ve played for LA if not for Magic

    • @albertlucero1980
      @albertlucero1980 Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly 💯

  • @juan-josegarza7039
    @juan-josegarza7039 Před 9 měsíci +8

    This is hard for two reasons.
    Magic saved basketball.
    Steph changed how people play, as AI, MJ, Dr. J, and Wilt did.

  • @loslakers530
    @loslakers530 Před 9 měsíci

    Finally! No MJ vs Bron debate! Something different haha

  • @EshockT
    @EshockT Před 9 měsíci

    Wow, I agreed with Perk just now. First time for everything.

  • @BourneKnight
    @BourneKnight Před 9 měsíci +6

    Lol, Magic literally saved the NBA from bankruptcy. I have ppl in Africa who literally idolized the man. He has a reach far beyond basketball.

  • @raf-09
    @raf-09 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Steph is literally the biggest views draw in the NBA, and has been for the last almost 10 years, that’s insane

    • @tylerwest3161
      @tylerwest3161 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Can’t compare views different times we don’t know how many views would get if magic had social media

    • @joeymanny
      @joeymanny Před 9 měsíci +2

      thats why magic is more impact, bevause theres no social media back then and put nba spotlight, steph will be just isaih thomas bedide magic

    • @kennethsmith6367
      @kennethsmith6367 Před 9 měsíci

      Steph not the biggest views. That LeBron James, stop lying!

    • @willjohnwick6911
      @willjohnwick6911 Před 9 měsíci

      @@kennethsmith6367you stop lying curry literally been the most viewed in nba the last 8 years. Since 2015 26 games have been played with 14 million views curry played in all 26 games. Curry also gets the most views on all nba social media sites 🤔 tell me again how is it lebron 🤡

  • @user-zj4sl1oz4y
    @user-zj4sl1oz4y Před 9 měsíci

    The question is not fair. They are from different eras. While fan basis from one side is fading, the other is still growing.

  • @onaths7793
    @onaths7793 Před 9 měsíci

    Everytime Perk talks and the topic is about the Warriors… you already know his side without him talking.

  • @warking3523
    @warking3523 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’m going with Steph on this one 🙌🏿

    • @patbenz4327
      @patbenz4327 Před 9 měsíci

      Because you're 20.

    • @ginuwinereynolds7291
      @ginuwinereynolds7291 Před 9 měsíci

      No he hasn't

    • @warking3523
      @warking3523 Před 9 měsíci

      @@patbenz4327 I’m 37 and I’m still going with Steph. Be realistic the game and players have evolved; especially from a athletic standpoint.

    • @patbenz4327
      @patbenz4327 Před 9 měsíci

      @@warking3523Magic turned the game into an art from. Basketball became fun to watch and the NBA increased its fanbase worldwide. He's the reason we've had players like Penny Hardaway, Lebron, Grant Hill, Luka, etc.. Magic is a 3x finals MVP, 9x 1st All-NBA Team, 3x MVP. The only thing steph does better is shooting.

  • @JimBrave-ri1oc
    @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 9 měsíci +4

    Well they had to make Rules Against Isiah. So Isiah is the best PG ever. Isiah was the one that sort of started all that 90's Tough Guy Body Builder Basketball that had the highest Ratings all time.

  • @rightybricks1582
    @rightybricks1582 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Stephen is a killer at 6'2". He has carried his team offensively multiple times because of his arsenal. Magic is mainly a facilitator and relied a lot on his teammates to score. Now imagine if Curry was 6'9. He would murder the NBA! Pop! Pop!

  • @kentcarmelruaya3229
    @kentcarmelruaya3229 Před 9 měsíci

    finally something new

  • @user-cs1pi8zg1n
    @user-cs1pi8zg1n Před 9 měsíci +3

    They're trying to downplay or erase every great player that played prior to the "Jordan" era. The disrespect for Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Dr. J, Moses Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, and Hakeem Olajuwon is INSANE!!! David Stern partnered with the media and made the air Jordan mythology a thing and to Mike's credit he performed eloquently. They spent yrs trying to recreate that(Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Harold Miner, Kobe Bryant,Vince Carter etc...) But it's like catching lightning in a bottle. Now every past great player can be replaced or disguarded except for MJ. Now it'll take a "European" player to knock Mike off of that mythical post. Other than that everyone else is fair game. Look at how the best player of this century so far has been treated(Lebron James) because he wasn't what the media and powers that be wanted him to be. Just to be clear there's no way I'm choosing Steph Curry over Magic Johnson unless it's a 3point shooting contest and that's it.

  • @nachos92392
    @nachos92392 Před 9 měsíci +4

    curry ruined the nba with everyone jacking up 3's

    • @JimBrave-ri1oc
      @JimBrave-ri1oc Před 9 měsíci +1

      Stern and Silver helped a lot with that wanting that to happen. they lowered the rims 1 inch and loosened them from 300psi to 30psi which helps shooters a lot.

  • @randellllarena7525
    @randellllarena7525 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Magic, without him, for one, he saved the NBA along with Bird. Second, he revolutionized the PG position which created point forwards like Pippen, Grant Hill and especially Lebron. Without Magic, we wouldn't be seeing this NBA today.

    • @bdotvisualz7461
      @bdotvisualz7461 Před 9 měsíci +2

      NOTICE how y'all gotta say BIRD'S name with Magic.......CURRY CHANGED THE GAME FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kennethsmith6367
      @kennethsmith6367 Před 9 měsíci

      @@bdotvisualz7461Bird’s name comes up because the rivalry between those two players pulled the NBA out of bankruptcy. By the way Bird is also somehow becoming underrated.

    • @alexgoins6924
      @alexgoins6924 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@bdotvisualz7461for the worse though. Players jacking up 3s all day is difficult to watch.

  • @MaverickIceman
    @MaverickIceman Před 9 měsíci +1

    The fact that they even have to talk about this is crazy. Without Bird and Magic, there would be no NBA today.

  • @Arazorblade
    @Arazorblade Před 9 měsíci +3

    The explanation is simple. Magic saved NBA but Curry inspired every normal human being who is not a god gifted giant. If you ask a normal human who he wants to be, they will mention Curry. Magic is all about show , Curry is about perseverance, hard work , reps and endless hours in Gym and a belief that you can be in the conversation of the best with sheer hard work and dedication.

  • @petep5207
    @petep5207 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Steph Curry...and it's no contest. Not even close. He changed the entire game. On BOTH ends of the ball. Magic changed a position. CURRY CHANGED AN ENTIRE SPORT.

  • @LyricalMurderer1
    @LyricalMurderer1 Před 9 měsíci

    Perk has low key been giving some good takes recently

  • @Vililol
    @Vililol Před 9 měsíci

    Can't talk impact when Magic has retired for over 20 years ago, and Steph is still playing, and arguably is in his prime and is set to have a long career.
    Even if he'd stop playing today, you'd need 20 years to REALLY see the impact he had on the game.

  • @Jdp_1597
    @Jdp_1597 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Back then nobody could do what Magic did nowadays there are multiple ppl that can do what Curry can do

  • @badkid_xyz
    @badkid_xyz Před 9 měsíci +1

    The game is bigger today and Steph is at the helm of changing the game. Therefore his impact is BIGGER.

  • @MrWeah2003
    @MrWeah2003 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Magic. He also does what a PG is supposed to do, not only spam 3s.

    • @PWCDN
      @PWCDN Před 5 měsíci

      Curry is a combo guard, not a PG. So if we're talking strictly PG, Curry is not it.

  • @thedragon1363
    @thedragon1363 Před 9 měsíci

    How players play and how the game itself is played? Curry for sure but the impact to basketball as an worldwide sport it's gotta be magic he put the NBA into the light it is today.

  • @tbennettpurdue
    @tbennettpurdue Před 9 měsíci

    There is a difference between the best players and influence and changed the game/the rules/way its played & officiated.....Wilt & Kareem huge impact on these......Pistol Pete had huge impact on the game. Dr J big time! Magic/Bird saving the league. MJ elevated & commercialized it. Lebron a big that moved like MJ and put the contract power in players hands & turned into a business. Curry's shooting changed the game from bigs & 5 positions to no positions and 3pt shoot league.....these guys changed the league.....Shaq is right there too.

  • @Oooyessbro
    @Oooyessbro Před 9 měsíci

    Is this BET or ESPN?

  • @rodneyroyston8427
    @rodneyroyston8427 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is impact: KG, Dirk, Giannis, and bigs of their ilk...we have ballhandling 4s and 5s in the game now because of Magic! He showed that at 6'9, you don't HAVE TO be stuck in the paint to be productive. Because of Magic and his ability to handle the ball, he impacted the game by basically being the creator of "perimeter bigs". Not suggesting he shot the ball well. I'm suggesting that bigs are now rarely in the paint these days because Magic made it cool to do more than just post up. That is an impact that fails to ever be brought up. And that impact changed the game way more than the need for more 3s. You can't even name 3 allstar level bigs in the league who live in the paint LOL. They're all on the perimeter, wanting to shoot, wanting to facilitate, wanting to showcase handles...the answer is Magic and it's not even close.

    • @AntiiSociial
      @AntiiSociial Před 9 měsíci

      They wanna shoot and showcase handles because of curry not magic

    • @rodneyroyston8427
      @rodneyroyston8427 Před 9 měsíci

      @@AntiiSociial They wouldn't have a chance to ever do so if we never saw a 6'9 Magic working mainly outside of the paint. That's what I am saying. By him running point at that size, it opened the door for bigs to handle the rock and do everything else that guards do outside of the paint. They'd still be stuck in the paint as a traditional big if Magic never played Point Guard.

    • @AntiiSociial
      @AntiiSociial Před 9 měsíci

      @@rodneyroyston8427 yeah but that in my opinion that doesn't have more impact than what curry has done. Most people are under 6 ft and in basketball curry is considered small, so to me that he would be more relatable and Impactful to majority of people. We got people shooting from 30 plus feet, and they will eventually add a 4 pt shot and it's gonna be because of curry

  • @TayG_9Deuce
    @TayG_9Deuce Před 9 měsíci

    Why do people like to compare all the time? It diminishes some of their greatness

  • @cameronfowler2670
    @cameronfowler2670 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Magic invented passing for championships and he made being a giant guard cool. It’s easily Magic. 😊

  • @xpager
    @xpager Před 9 měsíci

    Facts

  • @joels5150
    @joels5150 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Curry has definied what a good shot is. Regardless of height, strength or size. Magic was an anomaly, most NBA players couldn’t replicate his attributes, much less make the league with that ability.

  • @jonathanwatson1908
    @jonathanwatson1908 Před 9 měsíci

    I agree with Swagu and Perk. If you have Steph as the best PG over Magic I would acknowledge that as a legit argument. But Magic Johnson gave guys like Steph and those before him a chance by putting on a show along with Bird.

  • @DarrenStephenLimFitness
    @DarrenStephenLimFitness Před 8 měsíci

    When one guy made passing more sexy than scoring you already know the answer.

  • @camping2399
    @camping2399 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Magic hands down. This isn’t even a debate it’s almost disrespectful to say any player has had a bigger impact than Magic. College, Rookie Year, Him & Larry’s Rivalry, Putting the NBA back on the Map, Biggest Contract by a rookie, 5 Championships, 9 appearances, MVP, Greatest Passer Ever, The Greatest Leader Ever, Olympic Gold Medalist, HIV Spokesman, Greatest athlete/businessman and hands down the Greatest Smile 😊

  • @MyNameIsTwan
    @MyNameIsTwan Před 9 měsíci +1

    LMFAO, did Perk just say Magic and Bird saved the game 💀💀💀....MF that was Mike, Kobe and LeBron and then Steph

  • @ucruz3
    @ucruz3 Před 8 měsíci

    In every kid's mind they can really be Steph,, that's impact there.

  • @aquintaancrum4385
    @aquintaancrum4385 Před 7 měsíci +1

    STOP! Mr. Durant (Kevin) returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals 3X and won back-to-back championships in 2017 & 2018 for Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors; In 2019 Mr. Durant put up 11 points and then went down with an injury giving Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors their first win in the 2019 NBA Finals and Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala and the Golden State Warriors still couldn't get the job done. In 2022, Andrew Wiggins returned Wardell Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, and the Golden State Warriors back to the NBA Finals. It was unsportsmanlike for the Warriors organization to ask Andre Iguodala to sit out to give Wardell Stephen Curry the 2022 NBA Finals MVP Award when the award should have gone to Andrew Wiggins.
    Magic Johnson has had a significant impact on the NBA!

  • @upallnite79
    @upallnite79 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Disagree with SA's point, Steph definitely will go down as probably #2 pg of all time. He changed the game in This Era (shooting expertise), never seen anything like him. Magic just trumps Curry in too many areas. The way guards dribble these days, refs back in the day would call you for all types of violations. Tougher league back then. Props to Mr Curry doing his best to BE the BEST...

  • @JudgePhilosophical
    @JudgePhilosophical Před 9 měsíci

    I'm just curious why these conversations aren't made in the nfl... is it because of the complexion

  • @sfgmode1920
    @sfgmode1920 Před 9 měsíci

    I didn't know 3 point shooting was invented in 2015

  • @MileekWilliams
    @MileekWilliams Před 9 měsíci

    I have never heard of a player nearly being killed by having to guard another player....

  • @arielguzman9336
    @arielguzman9336 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s funny how everyone is talking about 3 pointers when literally big men with skills have been dominating the last few years

  • @pjtagle7731
    @pjtagle7731 Před 9 měsíci

    In the late 70s the NBA has faced challenges due to widespread drug use. Magic and Bird rivalry saved the league and making it a household name.

  • @itskajeric
    @itskajeric Před 9 měsíci

    you can also add michael jordan into the mix. Nobody rock the bald head look back in the 60's n 70's But when mj came into the league all these nba dudes started to rock dem bald head swag💯

  • @arshdeepk5851
    @arshdeepk5851 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Steph all day, man is the NBA nowadays

  • @ecatskid
    @ecatskid Před 9 měsíci

    The question is simple but people get confused because the question is bigger impact to the NBA and that's Magic but to current basketball and how it is played today goes to Steph Curry.

  • @epicwolf
    @epicwolf Před 9 měsíci +2

    Slow sports day. We all know Jordan changed the marketing ability of the NBA for sure with the shoes and commercials. Before Magic and Bird the NBA was in taped delay. I believe its more Jerry Buss who changed the NBA more than Magic. Steph doesnt change much. Sure more players shoot more threes but thats about it.

  • @dendiRTZ-xg5wb
    @dendiRTZ-xg5wb Před 9 měsíci

    Does anyone still remember the time when the Warriors have only 8 players on their line up because most players doesn't want to play for them?

  • @IJS_AI
    @IJS_AI Před 7 měsíci +1

    Magic is the greatest point guard of all time. Stephen A Smith says all that sh*t about Jordan stats vs. Lebron, but diminishes Magic's vs Steph?
    Steph's playing style leans towards that of a shooting guard. He doesn't boast the highest shooting percentage, the most assists, the most wins, defensive prowess, the most championships, the most MVP awards, dunks, steals, blocks, or even control of the offense, as evidenced by his time of possession. What often goes unnoticed is the incredible influence of Steph's fanbase in today's era, rivaling even the historic following of Michael Jordan. It's akin to Drake's devoted fans who refuse to accept any losses in his rap beefs with Common and Pusha T. Some may argue that it's a form of collective delusion.
    The sole notable achievement Steph has secured (late in his career, given his aging status) is the record for the most three-pointers made. Comparatively, Steph can be likened to Reggie Miller but with superior ball-handling skills, and even Reggie Miller had to contend with guarding Michael Jordan. The question arises: who has Steph truly shut down in terms of defensive matchups?
    Moreover, the ongoing discourse about Steph being the greatest point guard contrasts with the undeniable fact that Russell Westbrook could be seen as the LeBron James of point guards, despite not having an NBA championship ring to his name

  • @kmc10314
    @kmc10314 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Without Magic and Bird, there is no today's NBA...

    • @SamuelJ888
      @SamuelJ888 Před 9 měsíci +2

      OK without James Naismith there is no NBA either

    • @TopDrifter203
      @TopDrifter203 Před 9 měsíci +1

      yeah and bird and magic saved the league not MJ , magic and bird @@SamuelJ888

  • @idiesoultthis2119
    @idiesoultthis2119 Před 9 měsíci

    But if you have a chance to pick a line up, would you pick Magic Johnson over steph?

  • @conflicc5505
    @conflicc5505 Před 9 měsíci

    Magic got it because he's still making a big impact off the court becoming a respected businessman and just a great personality/represenative of the NBA also curry hasn't really had any backlash like magic did with the Aids thing and players not wanting to play with him...yea curry ain't been around long enough to compete with magic's impact but he's definitely on the right track

  • @Jay1Whitten1
    @Jay1Whitten1 Před 9 měsíci

    It's amazing how yall need to change the question in order to make a point for magic the question wasn't who saved the nba the question was who changed the game most.

  • @Forson4
    @Forson4 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Steph's the GOAT PG

    • @jleww8959
      @jleww8959 Před 9 měsíci

      Not with 1 finals MVP 😂

  • @pepingsclips7977
    @pepingsclips7977 Před 9 měsíci

    When we say impact its the "impact" the game on how it played on how we perceive, Magic was a great player but he only save the game together with Larry thats less impact

  • @Artbyartcreates
    @Artbyartcreates Před 9 měsíci

    Next topic please.. it’s Football season