Shaq’s GOAT comments SPARK INTENSE DEBATE by Mad Dog 😂 🐐 | First Take
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- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Chris “Mad Dog” Russo and Jay Williams respond to Shaq’s comments about whether Steph Curry should be in the GOAT conversation.
0:00 Shaq on Steph Curry
1:00 JWill on the GOAT consideration
3:00 Stephen A. hits out!
5:00 Mad Dog has lost his mind?!
6:30 Stephen A. vs. Mad Dog!
8:40 Molly tries to get to a commercial!
9:00 Quick takes on Ja Morant
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Mad dog woke up and choose madness 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Essentially trolling Shaq for his comments 😂
@@Elgon-Teak im going to help you guys make this clear SHAQ is the greatest CENTER OF ALL TIME PERIOD, IM FIGHTING THAT DEBATE TO MY GRAVE. AINT NOBODY STOPING SHAQ PERIOD IN NO ERA
I love it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1000% agree with Mad dog! He's not better than Hakeem, Kareem or Malone.
@@2398384238r3uru Hakeem beat Shaq heads up.
Shaq not top 5 center is actually absurd 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣😂
Wilt, Kareem, The Dream, Russel. He is a top 5, but Input those 4 before him(no particular order).
Shaq is number 1
@@user-so9mq9ji4nevery center you named Shaq destroys
Shaq is overrated. Mad dogg is right Shaq had it easy and is not top 10. Even Shaq knows this that’s why he put curry over him
Stephen A had me dying when he screamed “WHAT?!” After dawg said Moses Malone is better than Shaq 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 6:25
Malone was a three time mvp. Shaq was mvp once. If shaq could shoot from more than 3 feet away he may have actually been better than Malone.
Lmao I cry every time I see this video🤣. I came back to watch this video because of the Kobe stuff going on right now
Malone was a better player than Shaq.
@@firstlast9916delusion. This is why nobody takes you old head’s seriously.
@@goodmanwiseman303no he was not FOH with that
"LOOK AT ME STEPHEN!" they all knew that was HILARIOUS 😂
I couldn't hold on my laugh after he said that 😅
Bro the entire rant was hilarious smith killed me😂
Even Jay and Stephen A had to hold in their laugh lmao
5:14 they were like “what” and Mad Dog was “what do you mean, WHAT??” No chills 😂
One thing I love about Mad Dog, he gone ride for the OGs😂
Ngl he does speak about a lot of the older forgotten players, wild takes or not he keeps them in the conversation.
Facts I respect it
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I honestly love it. Especially some of these players we don't have extensive replays of
he is a lot of fun
Stephan A calling his colleagues arguments “soliloquies” is the best roast and never gets old 😂
Especially when he does it EVERY single time when criticizing someone
Wat dat mean?
its like an emotionally fueled monologue. Its in shakespere mainly@@BigL0824
Soliloquy was crazy😂😂
Who's Stephan? You mean Stephen.
Mad Dog the ultimate "back in my day" dude 😂
The funniest part was at the end when Mad Dog says going into commercial break I don't even have Shaq in my Top 10. 😂😂
Haha
I love how this turned into a Shaq debate 😆
Stephen a is ridiculous sometimes
@@isaacd35bro what did u not hear the bs doggy was spewing bro u a dr
Man it was hilarious 😂
@@Ju-pw8wm I don't even know who the other person is, but you look like a Stephen a Smith dr
Best part of the clip 😂😂😂
Doggy did that take for the entertainment of the show and it was brilliant hahahha
Let's give them something to talk abt
#contentcarrrying
For real! Haha
Agreed. Without controversy shows like this are nothing.
It was good to be reminded of Moses.
Facts 😂
Mad Dog was BREWING when Stephen A was talking 😂😂I love how he defends the older generation. That’s how I’ll be defending Steph and this generation in 30 years haha
It’s hypocritical because he says Shaqs competition was minimal but would not speak on the people Wilt Chamberlain played
If I have the number one all time draft pick I'm taking Magic and not looking back , does that make him the G.O.A.T.( maybe / maybe not ) but I do believe he has the most irreplaceable set of tangibles ( 6'8" w true point guard skills ) and intangibles ( killer instinct , winners will ) of any top 10 player .
He puts wilt ahead of Shaq and then uses the argument that Shaq played against bums, like wilt wasn’t playing against the worst players in nba history.
5:05 brought back vintage sport show vibes. The animation of both Stephen A and Jay was priceless. In fairness, I would have been the same when Mad Dog said Shaq ain't a top 5 center. I am for the drama, though, and I love that Mad Dog is on the show. He adds a great element to First Take.
He said Shaq was number 5.
5:08 😂 the transition from considering Stephen Curry on Mount Rushmore to somehow Shaquille O'Neal is fifth all time is absolutely hilarious and JWill and Steve had no idea what to do for a second
He been a goat ..it took Shaq to validate what I been saying slick
🤣🤣🤣 I swear that caught me way off guard… He changed the whole segment lmao
Stg
Stephen and Mad Dog screaming at each other while Jay prays in the middle is the funniest thing i’ve seen on First Take 😂😂😭
😂😂
Jay is the little boy hiding in his room upstairs praying his parents stop fighting downstairs. Mad Dog was a good add to the show.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
5:25 "AHHHOOOoo imnotgivingittowilt, IM NOT GIVING IT TO WILT!" 😂😂😂😂😂
Mad Dog going full Joker with that “look at me, Stephen!” 😭😭
LMAO I LOST IT WHEN JAY STARTED PRAYING 😂
lmao
Best part 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:35
lmfaoo i’m dead 😂
Seeing Stephen A get this animated was hilarious. He actually seemed to be being himself as opposed to a TV persona 😂😂
First of all Steph curry is da goat 🐐🐐 what this brother smokin on molly ask u is he goat he talking and rambling his mouth get to da point 😂😂😂
You don’t know him personally so it’s literally no way you can say he’s being him self over since you’ve only seen him on TV
7:29 “look at me, Stephen!!” Dude woke up violent, i can’t 😂
Broooo these reactions from Stephen A and Jay to Mad Dog comments has me literally dyinggggg😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can’t wait for Shaq to respond to this, it’ll be pure entertainment 😂.
Shaq would challenge Mad Dog to a game of 1 on 1.
Shaq asked if Steph should be in the conversation. JWill and StephenA had the conversation. And then Steph left the conversation. Pretty much what Kenny did.
@@justinchan6043and actually physically dunk on him with conviction on every possession. I would love it 😂😂😂😂
Hahahah cant wait
@@justinchan6043Yes!
This was hilarious once mad dog started talking! Had Jay Williams praying 🙏🏾 😂
He looked so sincere too😅😅😅
Mad Dog is out of his mind😂.
Needs to be a meme
🤣🤣 i was dead
He said “Lord he needs help”😂😂
Man, I love the craziness in these arguments 😂 plus the genuine reactions too 😅
The fact that he mentioned a Power Forward in the center conversation says it all
5:44 the way they paused and J will started scratching his head when they name dropped Tim Duncan is priceless 😂😂😂😂😂😂 . I’m glad Tim gets his due respect
He was a power forward, and in any case, he wasn't dominant the way Shaq was. I might put him ahead of Shaq as an overall player though- but only because Shaq got lazy and didn't keep himself in shape and practice other skills.
@@Noisy_CricketShaq was the better player at his best than Duncan at his best. Duncan however had the better career due to longevity and better team/management.
@@Noisy_Crickethe played half his career at center
He played most of his career as a center@@Noisy_Cricket
@@jarellgreer7733in fairness Tim Duncan is only one of two players (the other being Hakeem) that could slow down shaq whilst still being productive offensively
Man when Mad Dog said Moses Malone was better than Shaq….the look of Stephen A’s and Jay Will facial expressions 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:26 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stephan A lil John moment 🤣
But j has that look on his face like “why did I bring this white guy to the hood barbershop” look. 🤣
Yes Moses not on Shaq level but Moses gets the most disrespect in NBA history…
This is the funniest segment I've seen with this crew so far. Quality entertainment right here.
LOOOK AT ME STEPHEN!!! 😂😂😂 Mad Dogg was on one today
You can see Mad Dog’s face the entire time Jay Will and Steven A are talking. He was sooooooooo READY!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 facts lol
He was ready to unleash some truth on these men. xD
“LOOK AT ME…STEPHEN!”
Lmfao!
lmao that reluctant smile
Mad dog is freaking hilarious 😂
5:42 The transition to the Shaq graphic was some beautiful directing work fr 👏🏾😮💨
People absolutely forgot how dominant Shaq was. There was simply no answer to him in his prime. 3 straight chips to prove it
SHAQ GOT DOMINATED BY HAKEEM... Without those 3 year's with the Lakers. When did shaq actually dominate
Shaq lost to a Kareem in his prime one series when he was a baby. No offense, but if you are asking when did Shaq dominate, you clearly did not watch basketball regularly in the late 90s and 2000s. Every post game interview was a different coach saying "there is nothing we can do about the big guy"@@coreythomas3633
@@coreythomas36332nd year in the league and 50 pounds less
@@coreythomas3633u a hater
I actually have Hakeem over Shaq on my center list but cmon shaq was a baby in Orlando. If you put them prime vs prime shaq dominates.
“He needs help Lord” - Jay Will
😂😂😂😂😂😂
7:28 this is like the parody version of Skip & Shannon’s “PUT YOUR GLASSES BACK ON!” Moment 😂😂😂
Stephen looks like an older version of Ludacris 😂😂😂😂
I love Jay Williams on First Take. He gives push back to Stephen A and it makes the show really good
He always pushes back, that's what makes him great. But yes SAS don't farewell with push back 🫤
He's crispy
Thank the man who runs the show, SAS
apart from having historically bad takes
NO BIG MAN OVER SHAQ PERIOD - HE CHANGED RULES LONG AFTER THOSE PRIOR GREATS
6:38 JWill praying killed me 😂😂😂
i was crying
For me, it was him removing his earpiece like “I’m no longer listening to this.”
Had them stuttering at Tim “Duncan’s better” lmao
Loved this. Absolutely amazing. This was like old school sports talk radio. Loved Stephen A and Jay Wills reaction priceless. 😂
Between the Draymond comments and now this, Shaq is making sure people don’t forget his name and Mad Dog wants in the action 😂
Nobody will forget Shaq
Who?
He wasn't wrong about Draymond. You mfs just hate Draymond 😂 everyone knows he deserved the suspensions but you people are extra with the criticism
“And now this” Are you supposedly know better than Shaq?! The man chose Curry over himself and tou clowning
The argument they used against Wilt Chamberlain and the level of competition is the same argument Mad Dawg brought up about Shaq and the centers he played against in the finals and SAS & J.Will said it didn’t matter
Yes, J Will contradicts his own logic saying that Wilt isn't above Shaq and that Shaq not playing against any all-time great centers in their primes doesn't matter. Smh the Wilt slander stating that Shaq was better and that Wilt isn't top 10 all-time is ridiculous.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 When Madd on the show, we grab 🍿
Tim Duncan reaction was priceless. Even tho he a PF. Just their reaction is hilarious 😂🤣
Mad dog had them for a moment there 😂
Gotta respect Tim ni
He played just as much Time as center as pf
Tim Duncan is better honestly they are right next to each other on my list
Timmy is better player obviously.
The 2 screaming at each other and Jay praying in the middle💀💀💀💀
By far... the greatest Mad Dog take of all time. I've been watching this for days now... LOLLLLLLLLL
Stephen A reminded me of lil john @6:28😂 had me crying laughing 😭
I appreciate Mad Dogs contributions because he forces the newer heads to do their homework. He’s a lunatic with his takes but he’s necessary to the discussion
Russo knows more about sports than anyone on ESPN especially SAS
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"lunatic" is the perfect adjective 🤣🤣
he is really good
but he was right about Moses alone I'm a big shaq fan and a laker fan Malone was a better player than shaq shaq was one dimensional and for his size he should have led the league n rebounding every year and I agree time duncan beat shaq more times head to head then shaq beat him
I never get tired of this GOAT conversation lmao
It's been over since MJ won his 6th ring.
You should be.
@@I_love_burnt_toastdas all
@@marvaff6878 tis
@@I_love_burnt_toastnah it’s been over since Bron won his 2016 ring
This is hilarious man😂😂😂
This will go down as a classic debate
I’m dying over here listening to Doggie. 😂 I don’t agree with him at all, but I’m soo glad he’s on the show. Hi-larious!
The chemistry between him and Stephen A is fun.
A-mazing😂
You can never get tired of mad dog takes 😂😂😂😂
I like it.
It's a refreshing take, instead of the same thing over and over again.
If your black they get old fast
@@keithdior1657u just turn people against u when u make comments like that
That originally weren't even against u 😂🤦♂️
NEVER!!! The entertainment is ENDLESS!!!!
@@keithdior1657facts! This isn’t funny. Just dumb. Yt folks will laugh at anything
Even though I don’t agree with Mad Dog, I love that he brings history back & he’s not a yes man
LOOK AT ME STEPHEN!!!!🤣🤣🤣he pulled out the dad card.
I love how doggy is absolutely destroying this segment with these ridiculous takes
They are not ridiculous you just dont know basketball.
Jordan is pure trash. Jordans best season is trash
? Hahaha my lord I’m a Kobe fan too grew up on him and Jordan but your tripping go ti bed your crazy buddy
@@Gucci23430 ok im tripping huh? Posta 38+ season or a 70 point game.
Nah, this time he is making some points. Wilt was stronger, more agile and had a bigger arsenal of shots than Shaq.
@886, you know what?
Max would do the same thing Doggie does, but he just had more credible points Smith couldn't counter or come back from!
Smith respects Russo, "As He Should," being an older analyst and all, but wasn't willing to respect a younger more educated version of Russo in Kellerman who was right about many sports topics which Smith saw openly as a threat....Real Talk 🤔 Think About That✔️▪️
I mean Shaq just opened the discussion, I don’t think he was saying for certain that Steph is the GOAT. I’m not sure why it’s so controversial that he said that. It all comes down to what you value and what your criteria is. Steph Curry changed the game and is a supernova offensive force that game has never seen before. It’s not crazy to say what Shaq said
Just because NBA players suddenly turned into sheep and started shooting endless 3s does not make Steph the goat.
And he didn't trade teams to win😂😂😂 take Lebum out!!!!!
@@jp23xnaw but being in the best point guard era we had seen so far and literally dominating the era is what makes him one of the best players ever do you remember what he did in college and he carried it over to the nba. Before Durant he wasn’t playing with no top tier mvp caliber teammates like all the other great players did💯
What’s the point of opening such discussion when we all know Steph ain’t goat caliber. Why don’t we open such discussion for Giannis or Jokic. It’s stupid. Shaq is just tryna make the headlines, and stupid people are buying it.
@Misaki11111 Ummm Jokic have 1 ring( cough) and Giannis have 1 ring........
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this conversation deadass took a 90 degree left turn😭😭😭
He took me tf out when he started praying 😂😂😂
Mad Dog is WILD with that take! 😂
So mad dog knows more than Shaq
He seen them all.,Kobe ,Iverson Jordan Duncan ,,, an his words
I've never seen anything like STEPH
THAT HUMBLENESS FELLAS
Great show
Mad Dog makes me laugh seriously . Dudes from another planet, you gotta love it😂p
The moment Mad Dog said Shaq aint top 5 and i looked at SA’s and Jay’s faces i LOST IT😭😭😭😭😭
He did say he was the 5th best center. That means he's top5!
but then he went on and named 5 others wich would put shaq at 6 and then ended the show by saying shaq isnt top 10@@leramfreeman2950
Mad Dog has such big "Back in my Day" energy, it's ridiculous.
I've said it over and over. Mike, Lebron, Kareem are in the goat conversation. Kobe and Steph both deserve to be considered and in the conversation. No one is saying they are better or the greatest. But they have certain accolades and abilities that warrant them being considered. I don't know why this triggers people so hard.
There are levels of GOATness Steph is in the Kobe, Shaq, Tim Duncan, Bill Russell, Wilt, Bird, Magic level. Mj, Lebron, Kareem are the top 3 GOAT of the NBA Steph is not there yet.
@@napoleonbonaparte1260 lebron isnt there.
There's the top 3 tier (I won't call it GOAT tier because Jordan is clearly ahead of the pack, LeBron's longevity shouldn't put him over Jordan, that's mostly about medical advancements) and there's the tier right behind it and that's where Steph is. He's top 6-10 but not top 3 unless he can pull off some magic and win a couple more.
@@napoleonbonaparte1260LeBron in that level, but Kobe and Duncan not? 🤣 no man. Just no.
Mad Dog had the best take on this segment just off of personality alone! Love me some Doggie 🐶😂
I felt that “WHAT!??“ 😭😭
6:26😂😂😂
5:09 the way both of their faces dropped 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But Shaq knows more than all of them
Seen all the greats u think up close
An said on TV
I ve never seen anything like
GOAT STEPH 🎉🎉🎉
Let that sink in
I can’t put him in a conversation without the sustained playoff dominance. Definitely top 10 and could work his way down.
We all got an early Christmas present with this debate. This is the best gift ESPN can give to us
This man had Jwill praying for his soul😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's in his mid 30's, a dedicated family man, multiple championships, MVP's, and he's still out here carrying the warriors on his back and balling out pretty much every night. The undisputed greatest shooter ever, but also one of the best finishers, and I think the deadliest off-ball player of all time
I agreed with everything you said 💯 percent. But Steph Not in the 🐐 Convo... Not even top 5 ever
'a dedicated family man' ---->>> Any's whose been involved in San Frisco nightlife and even Los Angeles social circuit will laugh at this...
@@tarakvaakil8553oh yeah?👀
@@eli2fly121idk man. He a top 3 guard of all time imo. He MIGHT just be in top 5 or 6 all time
they underappreciate him cause of his size so sad.
When mad dog said shaq was the 5th best center I think my world stopped. Had to pause and rewind to make sure I heard that right 😂.
Best thing Molly ever said I GOTTA GO 😭💀
The way Steven a and jwill activated against mad dog I’m with them
Hakeem’s better than shaq idk why it’s hard to understand
@@stopcampin4097Hakeem was better? Skill-wise…but do you take prime Shaq over prime Hakeem. Tough decision. Shaq was so dominant.
@@marcelmarshall4240 he’s literally a better defender more athletic had a significantly better shot better free throws he has him in all categories besides physicality..dreams better
I do agree that Hakeem before his back injury was better than any Shaq era. People forget that Hakeem is the reason positionless basketball exist. When all the starter line up was out in a playoff series, Hakeem played all 5 roles and carried the team on his back. Hakeem was destroying David Robinson and Shaq everytime they met up that same season. Hakeem was maybe the only center pulling up from 15, 20,30, and 35 in that era. He is also the one who taught kobe and mike his footwork after kobe tweaked his ankle, he taught him the dreamshake and his post moves and set ups, when mike got older and lost athletism in him his late chicago years, him and Hakeem spent a summer together training. Michael Jordan also said Hakeem and Vernon Maxwell are the only 2 NBA players he had a hard time with, came out his own mouth.
Amen, Hakeem was the second best player I have ever seen play. There has never been anyone like Hakeem
@@jesseduke203 I think prime KD was similar to Hakeem other than that, Hakeem is difficult to replicate.
@@orendjohnsonjrhakeem plays defense kd never played defense in his entire career
@@DaOutsider_Tvid disagree, he played good defense when he was on the warriors
@@DaOutsider_Tv Naw KD plays defense, it's nothing spectacular but he does
yo this segment had me rolling bruh 🤣🤣🤣
That was epic! 😂 Doggy is out of control
When he said Moses Malone I legit could not breathe 🤣🤣🤣😄😂😃
Malone Had That Dawg In Em But I Get What You Saying 😂
I was shocked ahaha
@@MacTeezynobody is arguing about how great malone is dummy thats not the point you dumbfuck 😂
@@MacTeezy You can make an argument for Moses over Shaq.
Why? Moses was obviously a beast in his own right.
I come back to watch this often 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Steph curry 3 is the single most devastating offensive weapon in sports history...
Except for when he’s open 😄
True sadly... contested is better😂@@dwightyawg7781
Mad dog take is crazy, but the point about who they matched up on the title run i agree on.
I always enjoy Steven A Smith commentary. Well thought out, factual and honest.
Glad to have the nation see Doggie's personality and takes. He was a joy to listen to on Mike & The Mad Dog in the 90s and 00s.
This was so fun to watch! 🔥🔥🔥
The facial expressions changes are hilarious
Dude is pulling any name he remembers from the 70s and 80s when he was a middle aged man. Just wild!
The funny thing is that he wasn't completely wrong either lol.
Mad Dog about to talk about all those 70's and 80's players I bet!
Cause they are better
@@tank6641which one could play now
lol moses over shaq im out bro
Tim Duncan was better then shaq tho
@@TjFreely2He is neither 70's nor 80's...
This whole segment is gold!!!
6:28 ahahahahaa SAS reaction was priceless
5:11
6:28
Lmfaooo man i'm weak
Mad Dog is incredible! Dropped the hottest basketball take of 2023 and didn't back down. Had them on their hind legs. Magical.
He’s a national treasure 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 that's the thing Mad dog does not care at all. Had me lmao
Hottest??!! That was the most idiotic basketball take of 2023.
@@Jamthecoolerator i don't really think that was idiotic. There are legit arguments for each center he mentioned. Wilt (was more dominant), Duncan (has more championships and MVPs), moses (has more mvps, 3 vs 1), Hakeem (a better defensive player and had a much better offensive repertoire, can shoot the free throw, can play in clutch and time, beat shaq in the finals), Kareem (more mvps, more championships, more points), and Bill Russell (a lot more championships). There's a legitimate argument for any of those players to be ranked ahead of Shaq. Now do i Agree all those players were better than Shaq? No. But its not anywhere near an idiotic take.
@leonardoyi3183 Tim Duncan was a media darling just like nash I don't know what's more criminal Shaq having only 1 mvp or nash having 2
I lost it when he said Moses Malone is better than Shaq 🤣🤣🤣
Moses was incredible. It's not that disrespectful.
Why?....Malone was a beast.
Shaq has never lead the league in rebounding, blocks, and only had 2 scoring titles. Yet y’all act like he was the Goliath that Wilt was statistically. Same for Moses who actually have statistics that rival and surpass Shaq. Now I wouldn’t put Moses ahead of Shaq but Wilt was better and had comparable competition at center in the 60’s and 70’s to Shaq 90’s.
Moses was freaky good. Look him up
u dont know bball lol
6:50 lmaooooo he was praying 🙏🏼
I do have Hakeem as the second greatest center of all time behind Kareem Hakeem was a monster on defense and had the best post play I’ve ever seen he’s very slept on
This was pure comedy when Mad Dog started talking. LMAO.
It's funny to speak fact? It's cool to live in delusion I guess?
J Will praying was just hilarious 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
This is hilarious 😂😂😂
Finally real sports debates!!!!
Doggie took a edible before the show!!🤣🤣😂😅
His facial expressions says it all