My father was a private pilot and a spook during the early 1970s. It’s true what Tom says about vulnerability, he was the first civilian pilot to fly into the Soviet Union without wingmen when their harvests failed and they needed our wheat. The 707 stopped in Poland and OUR country had broken into our house and taken personal things to remind him that they could. Our phone was tapped and I was being followed to school but didn’t know why. This stuff is real.
You should have lived on the streets of Hollywood during the late 60's and 70's. A lot of spooks - some "dressed up as hippies". We used to laugh at them.
@@austina96 oh really? Thats awesome!! I've had it on my list to watch since it came out, but never got around to even starting it until about a wk ago lol.
Spooky is related to ghosts here. Like something being "spooky" like a ghost. I dont know it origins of the racists terms but quite sure it was from early american southern racists.
I was going to say the exact same thing & you beat me to it, lolz. You know JR had to immediately explain what it means in this discussion because it's such a racist word.
From the music industry & Hollywood to the politicians and the mafia to the drugs and main stream media to the political assassinations to the Vietnam war and all the social turmoil. 1960’s was the beginning of the end of the USA 🇺🇸
Reeve Whitson wasn't the only one. The LAPD had an undercover who was 'ex' CIA and special forces, inside the Manson gang. He went by the name 'Karate Dave.'
Probably half the gang was cops/feds, just like the actress’s father! The whole death scene was staged fakery, which makes sense why tabloids reported seeing her in Europe a few months later. Nobody smiles when they die!
I can’t find any evidence of Reeve Whitson existing. I’ve gone through O’Neill’s sources where Whitson was mentioned and I can’t find any documents (besides the FOIA request). Does anyone have a link to the Shahrohk Hatami testimony where he mentions Whitson?
Because Tom O'Neil is a crazy man and a liar who is desperately trying to leave a Legacy that he didn't earn He will take the tiniest inconsequential nugget and blow it into the largest conspiracy in human history " So Joe Smith of CIA ate a cheeseburger in 1957 - well Charles Manson got released in 1959 and everyone knows how much Manson loved cheeseburgers; but John Kennedy hated cheeseburgers, so CIA brainwashed Manson into assassinating Kennedy " He has tried for 55 years to tie the Manson Murders to the Kennedy Assassination anyone who falls for his nonsense deserves what they get - don't try to change their minds because it's just abject nonsense
@@TheEWFX29 maybe because it's total BS? After all, it's the left who claim that minorities are too dumb to figure out how to obtain an ID in order to vote. I assume that you're between the ages of 17 and 28, you're white and you were raised in a comfortable middle class household. I guarantee that by the time you're 35 you will be firmly on the dreaded "right wing" because life experience and wisdom dictates it. You'll feel foolish for believing the nonsense propaganda for so long too.
It’s wild to think about all the conspiracy theories that revolve around the Manson family because there’s just so many of them I can’t believe friends and said he was so close to the Beach boys like they even ripped off some of Charles Manson songs
Tom O'Neill is so awesome. Great researcher. He got as much as humanly possible while people are actively trying to hide the truth. Buy this book. Tom is an author every graduate historian should have. If you don't know this history, you don't understand Vietnam. Tom's work is a big chunk of our history that was going to be lost. I love it! Read Doug Valentine, Alfred W. McCoy and Marylin B. Young too. That will get a grad student into the story. You'll be hooked for life. Give up your TV and read this material. It will blow you mind. Thank you Tom O'Neill!
^ No you can’t. CZcams video descriptions are part of a conspiracy to mislead us into believing that someone who says they’re someone isn’t actually not someone who they’re not
Are grocery stores food prices in this area relative to the cost of transporting the goods to the area or are they relative to the cheaper land and mortgage prices.
It's called culture modification. Just like weather modification. You tell enough ppl the weather is getting worse for long enough they'll start to believe it.
He's a journalist, writer, and he did * know * what spook meant?! I am a member of neither profession, have no interest in spys, and I have always totally known ... Strange.
I may be wrong but talking about a possible CIA agent in the Manson family makes me think of how there's an actual picture of the late great Martin Luther King jr. Laid out on thatpatio on the second floor in Memphis Tennessee with a young African-American man next to him and supposedly that young man is FBI and wasn't part of mr. Martin Luther King's intergroup but was around just to see what was going to happen and then once the shot was fired ran up tried to help realized he couldn't try to get out of there as soon as he could and didn't realize he was photographed next to a bleeding out body of the late great Martin Luther King jr.so who knows where the US of a would have a infiltration or a spy or a spook or a pazzi or a patsy or whatever you want to call it on a possible inFAMOUS or famous or possibly righteous in the case of Martin Luther King jr. but it does seem that somehow some goofy American secret society has been around some very controversial issues
The various members of the family and the hangers on are all well known by now, so who was this mystery guy? Should be able to identify him pretty easily.
He obviously knows the other terminology. It depends how you use it fucking idiot. It I also know people from the south can be dumb so I get you...see how silly that sounds
@@nickd4100 The word you're looking for dear-heart is "context" and in the current context of this conversation I would say that Thalidomide was banned to late.
Manson was an actor that's so obvious if you actually look at evidence of the crime, anyone actually looked at the crime scene photos with a skeptical eye?
@@OCPrunsthecops republicans freed the slaves, ended jim crow law, and ended segregation.....the democrats tried keeping all 3 of those things..............yep just republicans are racist.
@@saltylegion6288 democrats dont get even minorities are starting to see through their shit. my arabic best friend put it best i think " whos more racist, the right wing guy that thinks about money all the time, or the left wing guy that thinks about race all the time" yall look for things to get offended about to pad your damaged senses of self worth because deep down they know they are what they say they hate so they have to project that onto the right. its no secret democrat governments havent done a damn thing for the people they claim to support so much. shit their golden child is obama but noone wants to talk about snowden outting the fact obama increased surveillance and lack of privacy IMMENSELY. but he was a nice guy right so whys that matter. or hillary clinton. knowingly defended a rapist during her time as a lawyer, pretty sure a child rapist but i could be remembering wrong, and was caught on tape basically laughing about it? as well as benghazi enough said. but shes on their side right so why does that matter. but GOD FORBID a right wing politician makes a joke. the lefts hypocrisy, posturing and bias is so apparent it blows my mind.
In regards to what Tom said about the guy he knew who said that he was at the Tate house during that 5 hour window after the crimes were committed but before the police arrived at the crime scene. I've read in a few different places over the years when I researched this P$Y0P that many neighbors who were living in the canyon heard voices (especially multiple male voices) coming from the Tate home throughout the night. The neighbors said they heard a lot of comings and goings throughout the evening coming from that house. In those canyon's in and around Laurel Canyon the sound is amplified by the terrain. The neighbors told the initial police officers that came to their homes about what they heard and then nothing else came from their statements. Their statements were ignored by the police and the district attorneys office. So the distinct possibility that C!A was at the crime scene hours before LAPD arrived is not far fetched. People in the homes all over that canyon stated to LAPD that people had been coming and going from that property throughout the night until around dawn. Read "P'R0GRAMMED to K'!LL" and "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" by Dave McGowen. :-I
For starters, the word conspiracy doesn't mean something isn't true. In this case, he can prove what he's saying, so even if we operated under the idea that conspiracy means "untrue series of proposed facts meant to inflate what people know in reality ", this would not be that. But these things in his book are facts, and that definition of conspiracy is not how it's supposed to be used.
Joe needs to have Tim Sheffield on the podcast. He is my co-worker who thinks he knows everything
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We all know a Tim Sheffield!
Is he Tim Sheffield from the vape shop?
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My father was a private pilot and a spook during the early 1970s. It’s true what Tom says about vulnerability, he was the first civilian pilot to fly into the Soviet Union without wingmen when their harvests failed and they needed our wheat. The 707 stopped in Poland and OUR country had broken into our house and taken personal things to remind him that they could. Our phone was tapped and I was being followed to school but didn’t know why. This stuff is real.
It sure is.
wow
How many details did your father share with you?
You should have lived on the streets of Hollywood during the late 60's and 70's. A lot of spooks - some "dressed up as hippies". We used to laugh at them.
Any one remember Patrice O'Neal on Opie and Anthony discussing a caller talking about
'Operation Charlie Manson'
trespeter R.I.Patrice
Yes i do ...i was like 😮😮😮
@trespeter
POSTED: czcams.com/video/9b9pDt70SVw/video.html
I gotta check that out
Haha yeah. They had callers attacking one another that episode
I've been anxiously waiting for Joe to interview this guy since he mentioned it to Brendan. Love hearing crazy shit about Manson.
Gator Don't Play No Shit you should watch the second season of mind hunter the actor does a spot on job of Manson
@@austina96 oh really? Thats awesome!! I've had it on my list to watch since it came out, but never got around to even starting it until about a wk ago lol.
@@austina96 Looks like I know what I'm binging on for the next couple wks lol
@@austina96 is he only in that 1 scene ?
I love that name and the movie it’s from
"Chaos" is a fantastic book, glad that Joe Rogan introduced me to Tom O'Neill
Same, it made me buy and read the book beforehand.
I'm from the Netherlands and 'spook' in our language is the actual translation for 'ghost'
Spooky is related to ghosts here. Like something being "spooky" like a ghost. I dont know it origins of the racists terms but quite sure it was from early american southern racists.
@@hokimoki3677 okay laura very cool
I can't be the only one that grew up with a different definition?
Spook, ghost... work in the shadows is the meaning of the BBC series Spooks (MI6)
@@hokimoki3677 I think you mean splooge
Yeah, that’s definitely not what “ a spook” means in the south.
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Thats what i was just saying but im from Detroit
I was going to say the exact same thing & you beat me to it, lolz. You know JR had to immediately explain what it means in this discussion because it's such a racist word.
Reading this as Lindsay Graham makes it even better.
@@imsorrythankyouplease7613 lolz
so i just learned sharon tates
dad was in military intel.
are you kidding me.
Sounds like Laural Canyon fuckery
A lot of 60s celebrities had family in military or government. Frank Zappa, Jim Morrison, and a bunch more I don’t remember right now
what does that imply or change? that he was in on it?
Abigail Folger's dad served in intel for the Marines from what I've read online. Very odd all these intel-adjacent connections.
Goddamn, in some ways the 60's sounded like a nasty decade.
It's what ruined this country
From the music industry & Hollywood to the politicians and the mafia to the drugs and main stream media to the political assassinations to the Vietnam war and all the social turmoil. 1960’s was the beginning of the end of the USA 🇺🇸
@@moriordan85no it was when people noticed it going downhill
Everytime I hear the monkey noise in the beginning, I always say "Hello freak bitches." Am I the only one? I miss that open.
Meh, dont like strangers calling me a bitch😉
Joe was proud to know the meaning of spook lmfao
Who doesn’t know the meaning of that?! Lol
@@Liamdk19 I was thinking of a different meaning.
No, it’s not politically incorrect.
what's a spook?
@@Phelps-1247 LOL
Reeve Whitson wasn't the only one. The LAPD had an undercover who was 'ex' CIA and special forces, inside the Manson gang. He went by the name 'Karate Dave.'
Wonder if he screwed the girls. Everybody else did.
Probably half the gang was cops/feds, just like the actress’s father! The whole death scene was staged fakery, which makes sense why tabloids reported seeing her in Europe a few months later. Nobody smiles when they die!
I know his cousin kayak dave
Kaleidoscope dave is one hell of a guy
Kawasaki david
Where is the full podcast? Suddenly gone.
Spotify.
I can’t find any evidence of Reeve Whitson existing. I’ve gone through O’Neill’s sources where Whitson was mentioned and I can’t find any documents (besides the FOIA request). Does anyone have a link to the Shahrohk Hatami testimony where he mentions Whitson?
Because Tom O'Neil is a crazy man and a liar who is desperately trying to leave a Legacy that he didn't earn
He will take the tiniest inconsequential nugget and blow it into the largest conspiracy in human history
" So Joe Smith of CIA ate a cheeseburger in 1957 - well Charles Manson got released in 1959 and everyone knows how much Manson loved cheeseburgers; but John Kennedy hated cheeseburgers, so CIA brainwashed Manson into assassinating Kennedy "
He has tried for 55 years to tie the Manson Murders to the Kennedy Assassination
anyone who falls for his nonsense deserves what they get - don't try to change their minds because it's just abject nonsense
Whitson is mentioned in a CIA document online about the Contras circa 1984.
could you even imagine working for the CIA? you'd probably know more things than you'd want to.
I imagine it depends on what you do exactly. I'm sure they have jobs that involve no excitement. Just mountains of paperwork.
I dont work for the CIA and dont wanna know shit i do! So i can imagine
I can say you will be required to sign a nondisclosure agreement and will be threatened with a long time in a cell for exposing certain information.
I already know more things than I want to...
Yep, they have a graphics department. Should have done a better job on Obama’s fake birth certificate though.
Reeve was covered in Chapter 6. Weird Joe hadn’t got to that part yet being on Chapter 11. 😐
Joe probably has his audible set on “shuffle”
Joe slings alot of bullshit sometimes
I just filed for chapter 11
Way to prep for the interview Joe👍
Joe is a chameleon. He plays the role,.
loving this series about the book, so much intrigue!
Comparing right leaning people to racist just rolls right of these guys mouths without even a thought.
Why shouldn't it, lol.
@@TheEWFX29 maybe because it's total BS? After all, it's the left who claim that minorities are too dumb to figure out how to obtain an ID in order to vote. I assume that you're between the ages of 17 and 28, you're white and you were raised in a comfortable middle class household. I guarantee that by the time you're 35 you will be firmly on the dreaded "right wing" because life experience and wisdom dictates it. You'll feel foolish for believing the nonsense propaganda for so long too.
Not all right wingers are racists but all racists are right wingers.
If you want to make comparisons, then the left can be compared to every major atrocity in world history.
@@thecoopaloop99 That genuinely is one of the dumbest statements I've ever read😂😂
What book?
"Spook" was a fairly common racial slur in my youth.
Yeah, you can't call 'em that anymore. Today ghosts are "the differently dead" or some nonsense
So is cracker and I still hear it everyday
Looks like the guy from UP
He knows. What's.. UP
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Dont make me emotional lol
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Reeve Whitson shows up much earlier than chapter 13. Joe was not reading the book.
great interview
It’s wild to think about all the conspiracy theories that revolve around the Manson family because there’s just so many of them I can’t believe friends and said he was so close to the Beach boys like they even ripped off some of Charles Manson songs
Only Dennis wilson.the rest thought manson had no talent
Yup only Dennis
Listen to beach boys song never learn not to love.. Then look up on CZcams Charles Manson cease to exist
Punctuation is your friend.
Anything to sell a book.
That sums it up in one big lump
Tom O'Neill is so awesome. Great researcher. He got as much as humanly possible while people are actively trying to hide the truth. Buy this book. Tom is an author every graduate historian should have. If you don't know this history, you don't understand Vietnam.
Tom's work is a big chunk of our history that was going to be lost. I love it! Read Doug Valentine, Alfred W. McCoy and Marylin B. Young too. That will get a grad student into the story. You'll be hooked for life. Give up your TV and read this material. It will blow you mind. Thank you Tom O'Neill!
Who is being interviewed and name of his book..?
^ No you can’t. CZcams video descriptions are part of a conspiracy to mislead us into believing that someone who says they’re someone isn’t actually not someone who they’re not
Kevin Dube i 2nd this😂😂😂👌✌️
I’ll be a weed smoking cia agent any fucking day.
Are grocery stores food prices in this area relative to the cost of transporting the goods to the area or are they relative to the cheaper land and mortgage prices.
It depends. My uncle has a chainsaw.
Yes
Joe didnt feel like to finishing this guys book. Cool thing joe has a podcast.
yeah, JR has an 18 oz. medium rare elk waiting for him at home, lolz
@@OCPrunsthecops why would anybody want to eat an animal? He's got 18oz of weed...lol
@@alberg8
Because that's how humans have survived for millenia
Many dead bodies buried around Mansons Ranch.
I’ve heard that for years, did they ever find any evidence of that?
I thought spook was an old term for black people
Chubby Guy It is
I think the word you’re thinking of starts with an N and ends with an R
It's called culture modification.
Just like weather modification.
You tell enough ppl the weather is getting worse for long enough they'll start to believe it.
This guy is a moron.
I think you mean the word 'koon'
Why would the CIA be interested in Manson?
miles pitts why would they be interested in anybody
LSD
Exactly. Whole thing is stupid.
@@ReservoirPunk Mk ultra is declassified which makes it more than plausible... who's really stupid?
They may not have been interested in Manson, the guy got around. The CIA works in webs.
Just got here what book are they talking about?
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE NAME OF THE BOOK?📚📚📚
yeah, it's called 1984 by George Orwell, lolz
Darude
Chaos:1960 I forgot rest
Spooks
He's a journalist, writer, and he did * know * what spook meant?! I am a member of neither profession, have no interest in spys, and I have always totally known ...
Strange.
I may be wrong but talking about a possible CIA agent in the Manson family makes me think of how there's an actual picture of the late great Martin Luther King jr. Laid out on thatpatio on the second floor in Memphis Tennessee with a young African-American man next to him and supposedly that young man is FBI and wasn't part of mr. Martin Luther King's intergroup but was around just to see what was going to happen and then once the shot was fired ran up tried to help realized he couldn't try to get out of there as soon as he could and didn't realize he was photographed next to a bleeding out body of the late great Martin Luther King jr.so who knows where the US of a would have a infiltration or a spy or a spook or a pazzi or a patsy or whatever you want to call it on a possible inFAMOUS or famous or possibly righteous in the case of Martin Luther King jr. but it does seem that somehow some goofy American secret society has been around some very controversial issues
James earl Ray was escaped out of prison to be used. Then he became a patsy.
I am out of breath just reading that Post.
For anyone else, may I suggest you insert the following : " . . . . , . . , ; . . ! . , . . ? . , ! .
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Glowing CIA N....evermind.
RIP Terry A Davis.
Spook 😂😂😂😂 come on fr? He didnt know the other meaning for that word?
Why do they want my perspective specifically
Case and point
"he was a real right wing guy....he was a racist!" lol *eyeroll*
I caught that too. What a sad little old man.
I don't see what's wrong with that statement..
A True statement
Yeah NO RIGHT WINGERS ARE RACIST DURRR HURRRRR
That statement shows what a stupid liberal the guy is. Just another liberal spreading bs.
Could have prevented the murders but didn’t? Why?
Probably told to stand down by his superior
When you’re in that line of work you don’t interfere with history. DudeMinds is correct, you don’t know what’s going on above you.
Daddy, were you a hippie?
Pretty sure spook is also an old racial term for african americans
Lol Thanks Joe. No, I didnt know what a spook was. 😂😂😂 (Spook = 3 letter agaency)
Racist does not equal right wing
Bay Aryan my thoughts too lmao
Tomato tomato
It does now.
The various members of the family and the hangers on are all well known by now, so who was this mystery guy? Should be able to identify him pretty easily.
Victor Thorns book covers the cia and Charles Manson . I believe the book is called the assains , excuse my spelling.
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Thank you for the clarification on right winged people/racism, I didn’t know that before this!
snausegman Democrats and Republicans flipped jackass. Democrats are still essentially republicans nowadays anyway
Joe Rogan Show Rules 💪😎
🤔hmm
Spook is also a racial term.
This guy can’t be serious haha
Notification gang👌
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Thanks Joe Rogan 👍!!!
Meh. Circumstantial dero
Please don't equate racism with only hard core rights. Racism is in the left as well, likely even more. Do better research.
That put me off this guy when he mentions what lens he’s looking through.
BS. Racism exists everywhere but right wingers tend to be more racist than the general population.
Wow just the corruption
Pretty sure that aint what a spook is 😂
You need to fish lake of the woods man
It absolutely is.
Must be a Democrat. Reliable sources are their strong point.
Good job on the catch joe by elaborating on what he meant by "spook" that means something different where im from. It's racist.
Wouldn't worry, where I'm from, every fucking thing is racist, this sentence included.
He obviously knows the other terminology. It depends how you use it fucking idiot. It I also know people from the south can be dumb so I get you...see how silly that sounds
@@nickd4100 The word you're looking for dear-heart is "context" and in the current context of this conversation I would say that Thalidomide was banned to late.
He should have pressed him when he equated "right wing" with "racist". That's far more important than clarifying what a spook is.
@@dilldowschwagginz2674
I caught that. The language is going to idiocracy land thanks to political correctness Nazis.
Spook comes from Skull and Bones
Dudes describing Captain Bigfoot from Inherent Vice
It was Brad Pitt.
I just thought spook was slang for black dude
CIA ? Again?
Manson was an actor that's so obvious if you actually look at evidence of the crime, anyone actually looked at the crime scene photos with a skeptical eye?
Expand.
@@derekdykeman9160 5:42
"He was a hardcore Right guy, y'know.. he was a racist.."
Ah yes, that's what it means to be right-leaning... /s
In the 60's it would be a pretty good indicator.
OOOOOOOK.
@Max Designs yeah 'cause we all know the extreme left vote for white supremacists
@@OCPrunsthecops republicans freed the slaves, ended jim crow law, and ended segregation.....the democrats tried keeping all 3 of those things..............yep just republicans are racist.
@@saltylegion6288 democrats dont get even minorities are starting to see through their shit. my arabic best friend put it best i think " whos more racist, the right wing guy that thinks about money all the time, or the left wing guy that thinks about race all the time" yall look for things to get offended about to pad your damaged senses of self worth because deep down they know they are what they say they hate so they have to project that onto the right. its no secret democrat governments havent done a damn thing for the people they claim to support so much. shit their golden child is obama but noone wants to talk about snowden outting the fact obama increased surveillance and lack of privacy IMMENSELY. but he was a nice guy right so whys that matter. or hillary clinton. knowingly defended a rapist during her time as a lawyer, pretty sure a child rapist but i could be remembering wrong, and was caught on tape basically laughing about it? as well as benghazi enough said. but shes on their side right so why does that matter. but GOD FORBID a right wing politician makes a joke. the lefts hypocrisy, posturing and bias is so apparent it blows my mind.
Hey Joe.... are you social distancing?
Yes. His name was Charlie Manson.
Bigfoot was also in the Manson family.
SHEEP
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In regards to what Tom said about the guy he knew who said that he was at the Tate house during that 5 hour window after the crimes were committed but before the police arrived at the crime scene. I've read in a few different places over the years when I researched this P$Y0P that many neighbors who were living in the canyon heard voices (especially multiple male voices) coming from the Tate home throughout the night. The neighbors said they heard a lot of comings and goings throughout the evening coming from that house. In those canyon's in and around Laurel Canyon the sound is amplified by the terrain.
The neighbors told the initial police officers that came to their homes about what they heard and then nothing else came from their statements. Their statements were ignored by the police and the district attorneys office. So the distinct possibility that C!A was at the crime scene hours before LAPD arrived is not far fetched. People in the homes all over that canyon stated to LAPD that people had been coming and going from that property throughout the night until around dawn. Read "P'R0GRAMMED to K'!LL" and "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon" by Dave McGowen. :-I
cringe and bluepilled. joe loves conspiracies that don’t matter
You remind me of the shit I took last night
@@hfushimi1519 heroine?
Imagine impersonating someone else on the internet
where's my check donnie?
For starters, the word conspiracy doesn't mean something isn't true. In this case, he can prove what he's saying, so even if we operated under the idea that conspiracy means "untrue series of proposed facts meant to inflate what people know in reality ", this would not be that. But these things in his book are facts, and that definition of conspiracy is not how it's supposed to be used.
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