OUTLAW2020, he was lucky. Air Force F4’s had the rear control yokes. Navy and Marine Corps Phantoms only had the hole in the floor of the cockpit. I envied the F4e pilots in that they had internal canon. We got the M61a1 mini gun pod under our fuselage centerline. Not very accurate in a dogfight. Nice for strafing though.
Ah, the good old days when "pilots" where drivers, ships, planes, systems and weapons had proper names instead of ridiculous acronyms and the letter J wasn't strapped onto anything new. Not to mention that back then you where a "soldier" regardless of service and official classification (sailor, airman etc). Not a "warfighter". Firefighter, street-fighter, warfighter. I laugh everytime.
lupahole, I really miss the “G forces” on you especially during kill or evasive maneuvering. Also cat shots off of a carrier. You know, the kind of forces that stuff your nuts into your back pocket! LOL
Looked like a standard break at 1500 ft, same as the Air Force. Thanks for the vids and for your service. My dream, ever since I can remember, was to fly a fighter. I was not able to join because of medical. All I can do now is fly in DCS. I’m sure you get a lot of comments from DCS players lol.
@@jeromez.2672 My friend is a retired F-15E pilot and he said there were a few A-10 pilots that he knew that used DCS for emergency flows. Since they only get in the simulator once or twice a month. That is all they do in the simulator is practice emergency procedures or if there is a new system coming into the aircraft.
Nice landing jello. I liked watching when these fighters do the break before landing. This reminds me when I was watching my son perform the break during his last solo FCLP prior to sending them to the actual aircraft carrier. Family members were invited to watch them perform.
I was surprised at the low altitude on final. I didn't expect that. Also with the Aerobreaking, I expected a shorter roll-out, you must have had some extra speed on final. Nice video and thanks for the view!
@@kenclark9888 it wasn't a complaint or a judgement. I'm no expert, certainly not a fighter pilot. I just said I was surprised, which is true. No need to get upset over it
Just want to say thanks. My landings in DCS (F/A-18C) are ok, but not as good as that (& I'm sat @ my desk - zero risk). I'm currently trying to perfect 'flying smooth and accurate" (holding given alt and speed in turns, etc). Precision doesn't come easy. Great video again!
Heey Jell-O, how's it going? Not sure if you still gonna catch this vid, but let's go: till where goes the "by-the-book" stuff and how you get the real pratical procedures? Is it learnt at the squads, "later"? I'll explain myself: looking at the manuals, i've noticed the landing patterns are always different from the videos pilots post here. Great podcast you have, love almost all episodes!
Thank u for posting this video. I play DCS World, but I am not good at landing. But,I am fun what Touch and Go Training！ I was read F16C manual from Public Intelligence. Sorry,I am not good at English
@Ronnie Burgess The "break" is the name for the maneuver an aircraft performs when it flies over the runway of intended landing about 1,000 above it and then descends and decelerates in a turn for landing.
This takes good coordination, something I don't have. I fly the T-38 Talon in Xplane 11. Not the best modeled plane but she's fun. Couple questions if u don't mind. 1) Did u drop the gear on the downwind or the rollout for final? 2) What altitude after coming out of rollout? Did u have speed brakes out when approaching runway on initial? Speed & RPM management is so brutally hard for me. :(
Can you explain? I notice that pilots loop around the landing strip and do a steep descent when they could just as easily land like an airliner and line up with the runway from 50 miles away. I mean it's cool for sure, I'm just curious.
Nice! Does it fell a little lonely landing at an airfield without yellow-shirts directing you soon after you land? Or do Tower and Ground provide a good substitute while you are taxiing, LOL? Either way, thanks for sharing! Always fun to watch.
Not lonely at all. Taxiing around an airfield is usually uneventful and then someone is waiting to direct you the last few feet into your parking space.
@@FighterPilotPodcast are you the fa/18 pilot in these videos? The fa/18 is my favorite fighter jet. I joined the Navy just because of the fa/18. I was an E-6 Martin Baker ejection systems was my job. It was good times and I would do it all over again if I was younger again 🇱🇷
Thanks for all the office views!! At what G do you break normally at the field? Is it up to the pilot or is there strict rules? Keep up the awesome videos!!
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thanks for responding! I only "fly" the F/A-18C in video games, but I always want to learn how the real pilots do it, to make it as real as possible! Your videos are great by the way!
The Fighter Pilot Podcast when doing a land pattern, since the runway is not moving do you extend downwind a bit to compensate? If so, do you just eyeball it, count a certain number of seconds, or use some visual reference using the wing? Cool podcast and videos. Makes my drive to the airport shorter. Thanks Jello!
2 questions: Standard pattern is at 1500 Ft. Will you fly the 1500ft pattern like the Air Force or is it like the carrier pattern but at 1500 ft ? What touchdown point are you aiming for. I’m always wondering why you guys touch down so early at the threshold. You don’t aim for the 1000ft touchdown point at the RWY ?
I’m assuming you come in on a shallow final approach when landing on a field to lessen the descent rate on touchdown while maintaining AOA?Also, is it against SOPs to touchdown with an AOA >8.1 degrees?
Descent rate in the Hornet on touchdown is usually 800 FPM, about -3 degrees on the pitch ladder. From what I've seen they usually put wheels on the ground at 145 to 150 knotts. I'm also not sure about the Degrees of AOA. Usually on the Carrier if you aren't at the right AOA you'll damage your hook or have it too high to catch so I'm sure the SOP is to ensure you're always at the proper angle.
The 'break' maneuver is actually a tactical arrival that reduces exposure to potential enemy fire on a long, slow straight in. A break is done over the numbers at 250 (+) :-) knots, whereas on a straight-in you pretty much have to be slowed down to 150 kts while still 3 miles out. Good question. (Ex-USN pilot)
Do you have air conditioning? If so, what temperature do you keep the cockpit in a dog fight? Do you have auto-pilot? Can you just turn your head to make the aircraft turn? Thank you.
Yes, cockpit environmental knobs are available to keep a relatively comfortable cockpit (no exact temperature). Yes, autopilot will hold heading, altitude, direct to a waypoint, etc. No head turning control.
@@FighterPilotPodcast thank you for answering. I prefer our Warriors to be as comfortable as possible. Thank you for defending our freedom. I hope you enjoy a great career and a long enjoyable retirement someday.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I'm sure you do, sir! I'm not American but I lived in Tucson, AZ for 5 years and had the pleasure to go to Davis-Monthan AFB on numerous occasions (A-10 haven). Saw the Thunderbirds in their F-16s (Not sure if they still use those today). Anyways, thanks for your service and channel.
About 1,500 feet above the ground, unless you ask for the "carrier" break which mimics what you would do overhead an aircraft carrier--that's 800 feet up.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Sent you this link, (not mine) it's got some Aussie F/A-18's with nice paint jobs on them. they are returning from the Dawn Strike Exercise to Williamtown Air Force Base. What high do you think they are at? oh sorry if I have sent it to you already. httpd://czcams.com/video/jngLnQIOZuw/video.html
2:30 ---- a wonderful visual LESSON for all those "brilliant" DCS players who land HALF WAY DOWN THE RUNWAY "this" is how you land! at the actual approach end of the runway #CmonOnGetItRightForOnce lol
Never tire watching these! We desperately need more bro chat and sea stories - No pressure!
Brought back old memories of my days as a Phantom driver in the 60’s. Thanks.
Thanks for your service.. my uncle flew the F-4E over southeast asia..
OUTLAW2020, he was lucky. Air Force F4’s had the rear control yokes. Navy and Marine Corps Phantoms only had the hole in the floor of the cockpit. I envied the F4e pilots in that they had internal canon. We got the M61a1 mini gun pod under our fuselage centerline. Not very accurate in a dogfight. Nice for strafing though.
Ah, the good old days when "pilots" where drivers, ships, planes, systems and weapons had proper names instead of ridiculous acronyms and the letter J wasn't strapped onto anything new. Not to mention that back then you where a "soldier" regardless of service and official classification (sailor, airman etc). Not a "warfighter". Firefighter, street-fighter, warfighter. I laugh everytime.
lupahole, I really miss the “G forces” on you especially during kill or evasive maneuvering. Also cat shots off of a carrier. You know, the kind of forces that stuff your nuts into your back pocket! LOL
Mike Bosisto, trust me, I know that feeling all too well. I was in the cockpit for only two kills, both mine!
Such awesome footage!!! I was born in Fallon. I love watching that in person when i’m out and about.
Looked like a standard break at 1500 ft, same as the Air Force. Thanks for the vids and for your service. My dream, ever since I can remember, was to fly a fighter. I was not able to join because of medical. All I can do now is fly in DCS. I’m sure you get a lot of comments from DCS players lol.
We certainly do. In fact, we are working on ways to become more involved with the DCS community...
Can confirm many dcs players
Isnt dcs a potencial platform for future pilots and also for training simulators? I think it trains your ability to do more than one Thing at a time.
@@jeromez.2672 I think X-Plane is the most popular training sim at the moment but I guess X-Plane decided to go through faa hoops to get there
@@jeromez.2672 My friend is a retired F-15E pilot and he said there were a few A-10 pilots that he knew that used DCS for emergency flows. Since they only get in the simulator once or twice a month. That is all they do in the simulator is practice emergency procedures or if there is a new system coming into the aircraft.
Nice landing jello. I liked watching when these fighters do the break before landing. This reminds me when I was watching my son perform the break during his last solo FCLP prior to sending them to the actual aircraft carrier. Family members were invited to watch them perform.
2:26 the shadow of a 2 ship coming up initial passes.
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I was surprised at the low altitude on final. I didn't expect that. Also with the Aerobreaking, I expected a shorter roll-out, you must have had some extra speed on final. Nice video and thanks for the view!
I might have had a fairly shallow descent angle, maybe 2 degrees, but it could also be the camera playing tricks on the eyes.
@@FighterPilotPodcast or it could be both! 😁 Nice video regardless. Thank you!
Russell Johnson video and reality no comparison
Jollyroger Hobbies maybe some like to stay off the brakes and roll out some
@@kenclark9888 it wasn't a complaint or a judgement. I'm no expert, certainly not a fighter pilot. I just said I was surprised, which is true. No need to get upset over it
Keep the vids coming guys, love it with no music backtrack :) - nice landing as well
Thanks. 🙏
Great capture! You caught a cool moment with the shadow of the two planes above you just before touchdown. Thanks for sharing Jello.
Noticed that! Better lucky than good.
Superb stuff. Just so cool to see these types of videos. Really enjoying them. Many thanks.
You're welcome! 🙏
Awesome. I’ve watched this from the ground so many times. 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
Anyways enjoyed watching you guys coming in for the carrier break from the tower at NAS Fallon!
Now this is the kinda shit we watch CZcams for.
Ahhhhhh, one of life's simple pleasures!
Just want to say thanks. My landings in DCS (F/A-18C) are ok, but not as good as that (& I'm sat @ my desk - zero risk). I'm currently trying to perfect 'flying smooth and accurate" (holding given alt and speed in turns, etc). Precision doesn't come easy. Great video again!
Sure thing, Richard. Keep at it!
Looks like you threw the Hornet at the runway, "Land here! Who's your daddy?" Love it.
Ideally both the pilot AND aircraft should be useable again after a landing.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Those giant grasshopper Main Landing Gear said, "Not a carrier deck. Don't even care what you do. More please."
Breaking Left Check your 6 ! Great flying
Weird with no aerobraking. Haha. Nice vid brother!
Pilot did outstanding landing
🇺🇸These colors don’t run.🇺🇸
Thank you for your service!
And of course, thanks for the excellent ride along! Great job!👍👍
Heey Jell-O, how's it going? Not sure if you still gonna catch this vid, but let's go: till where goes the "by-the-book" stuff and how you get the real pratical procedures? Is it learnt at the squads, "later"? I'll explain myself: looking at the manuals, i've noticed the landing patterns are always different from the videos pilots post here. Great podcast you have, love almost all episodes!
Thank you! Which episodes do you not love?
@@FighterPilotPodcast ahh, very few ones, only because aircrafts preferences or something like that... Not even worth looking for to mention to tou 😁
Thank u for posting this video.
I play DCS World, but I am not good at landing.
But,I am fun what Touch and Go Training！
I was read F16C manual from Public Intelligence.
Sorry,I am not good at English
It’s ok 👍
@@FighterPilotPodcast thx👍
So rad
Looks like this guy has done this a few times before.
I’m here in El Paso, Texas, and those Marine and Navy jockies do their breaks right over my house! I love running out to see them 👌
Glad to hear! Not everyone does.
@Ronnie Burgess The "break" is the name for the maneuver an aircraft performs when it flies over the runway of intended landing about 1,000 above it and then descends and decelerates in a turn for landing.
Could use a little more razzle dazzle on the flare..... :) Cool vids we appreciate the view.....
Sweet view
Kei lylmm 😎
This takes good coordination, something I don't have. I fly the T-38 Talon in Xplane 11. Not the best modeled plane but she's fun. Couple questions if u don't mind. 1) Did u drop the gear on the downwind or the rollout for final? 2) What altitude after coming out of rollout? Did u have speed brakes out when approaching runway on initial? Speed & RPM management is so brutally hard for me. :(
Why wasn't the plane on speed until just before touchdown?
Because there was no need to be when landing at the field. There's no harm in flying a little faster than on-speed prior to touchdown.
Can you explain? I notice that pilots loop around the landing strip and do a steep descent when they could just as easily land like an airliner and line up with the runway from 50 miles away. I mean it's cool for sure, I'm just curious.
Keeps you fast over potentially enemy territory if they’re nearby. Also what Navy pilots do around the carrier to keep everyone close and predictable
Nice! Does it fell a little lonely landing at an airfield without yellow-shirts directing you soon after you land? Or do Tower and Ground provide a good substitute while you are taxiing, LOL? Either way, thanks for sharing! Always fun to watch.
Not lonely at all. Taxiing around an airfield is usually uneventful and then someone is waiting to direct you the last few feet into your parking space.
@@FighterPilotPodcast are you the fa/18 pilot in these videos? The fa/18 is my favorite fighter jet. I joined the Navy just because of the fa/18. I was an E-6 Martin Baker ejection systems was my job. It was good times and I would do it all over again if I was younger again 🇱🇷
Kei lylmm Well, thanks for your service! Yes, that’s me flying .😉
@@FighterPilotPodcast awesome what fighter squadron are you with? I'm on the east coast. I was with VFA-106 gladiators and VFA- 37 RAGIN BULLS.
Thanks for all the office views!! At what G do you break normally at the field? Is it up to the pilot or is there strict rules?
Keep up the awesome videos!!
Depends on your speed but 4 Gs is typical.
Keep'em coming!!!!...dam I wish I could have done this....color blind
What does the pilot have against the runway centerline? LOL!
We typically land on centerline and then mosey over to the exit side in case a wingman behind us has a problem and needs to go whizzing by us.
Why do 16 pilots keep the nose up until the speed drops?
It's called aerobraking and helps slow the aircraft after landing without using the brakes or a drag chute.
@@FighterPilotPodcast thanks
Do fighter pilots execute overhead landing at night?
I'll be getting ready for your Next Flight in the F-18
Cool 😎
Nice carrier landing 😂😜😁
I have to go change my pants now. Thanks. ; )
Called a "military landing". We saw this many times at Nellis AFB when the "5's" came back from weapons training.
What is the difference?
Awesome 👍
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Is it 800 feet AGL, like on carrier breaks? Or different when it's on land?
Antares A normal overhead pattern will be approximately 1,500 feet above the ground but you can request the 800 foot carrier break.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Thanks for responding! I only "fly" the F/A-18C in video games, but I always want to learn how the real pilots do it, to make it as real as possible!
Your videos are great by the way!
The Fighter Pilot Podcast when doing a land pattern, since the runway is not moving do you extend downwind a bit to compensate? If so, do you just eyeball it, count a certain number of seconds, or use some visual reference using the wing? Cool podcast and videos. Makes my drive to the airport shorter. Thanks Jello!
Wish There was an Airspeed indicator on this video..
2 questions:
Standard pattern is at 1500 Ft. Will you fly the 1500ft pattern like the Air Force or is it like the carrier pattern but at 1500 ft ?
What touchdown point are you aiming for. I’m always wondering why you guys touch down so early at the threshold. You don’t aim for the 1000ft touchdown point at the RWY ?
Carrier pattern is available in Fallon.
Runway behind you is useless.
@patricklaine. Thanks. As an ex ATC I should have known that.
I know I think of naval operations in the middle of the Nevada desert.
I love it, Thanks alot
Super. Is it easy to get the speed off downwind or is it idle, speedbrake, gear.....max effort...
Usually fairly easy unless you come in over 500 knots, then it's a bit of work but still do-able.
When were these video's captured? Are they from wheb you were still in? Are these recent?
Jussie Smollett These were from 2014-ish when I was still active duty.
I’m assuming you come in on a shallow final approach when landing on a field to lessen the descent rate on touchdown while maintaining AOA?Also, is it against SOPs to touchdown with an AOA >8.1 degrees?
Descent rate in the Hornet on touchdown is usually 800 FPM, about -3 degrees on the pitch ladder. From what I've seen they usually put wheels on the ground at 145 to 150 knotts. I'm also not sure about the Degrees of AOA. Usually on the Carrier if you aren't at the right AOA you'll damage your hook or have it too high to catch so I'm sure the SOP is to ensure you're always at the proper angle.
Nice...but why not land "straight-in" ? Could have been on the ground and ready to re_deploy 2minutes earlier.
The 'break' maneuver is actually a tactical arrival that reduces exposure to potential enemy fire on a long, slow straight in. A break is done over the numbers at 250 (+) :-) knots, whereas on a straight-in you pretty much have to be slowed down to 150 kts while still 3 miles out. Good question. (Ex-USN pilot)
Memories.
Was there a reason why you didn't roll out on centerline? Love the podcast and videos, keep up the good work!
We usually move over to the exit side of the runway in case an aircraft behind has a problem and needs the other side.
@@FighterPilotPodcast That makes sense, I didn't think about multiple aircraft landing at the same time.
@@greglee1311 That's partly why I enjoy posting these videos and doing the podcast--it helps people better understand the world of military aviation.
Wow. Probably the camera, but I thought he was going to be short.
Notice all the dirt farms in the area? That's where dirt comes from. That's science.
I feel smarter already!
You guys come in really low and shallow. Definitely not the same as a Cessna 😂
Do you have air conditioning? If so, what temperature do you keep the cockpit in a dog fight? Do you have auto-pilot? Can you just turn your head to make the aircraft turn? Thank you.
Yes, cockpit environmental knobs are available to keep a relatively comfortable cockpit (no exact temperature).
Yes, autopilot will hold heading, altitude, direct to a waypoint, etc. No head turning control.
@@FighterPilotPodcast thank you for answering. I prefer our Warriors to be as comfortable as possible. Thank you for defending our freedom. I hope you enjoy a great career and a long enjoyable retirement someday.
@@videopokernetwork6824 Very kind of you, thanks. I am in retirement now and am happy to say it is both!
Hi Jell-O and Sunshine! Question: who's flying and how recent are these? So awesome!
Jell-O and 2014-ish.
@@FighterPilotPodcast thanks for reply! Can't believe I'm actually interacting with a real fighter pilot! Congrats for the channel!
@@ARIXANDRE Hah, thanks! I put my pants on one leg at a time just like you. 😎
@@FighterPilotPodcast I'm sure you do, sir! I'm not American but I lived in Tucson, AZ for 5 years and had the pleasure to go to Davis-Monthan AFB on numerous occasions (A-10 haven). Saw the Thunderbirds in their F-16s (Not sure if they still use those today). Anyways, thanks for your service and channel.
@@ARIXANDRE You're welcome. And yes, the Thunderbirds are still flying F-16s.
What altitude do you normally break at? Great stuff.
About 1,500 feet above the ground, unless you ask for the "carrier" break which mimics what you would do overhead an aircraft carrier--that's 800 feet up.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Sent you this link, (not mine) it's got some Aussie F/A-18's with nice paint jobs on them. they are returning from the Dawn Strike Exercise to Williamtown Air Force Base. What high do you think they are at? oh sorry if I have sent it to you already.
httpd://czcams.com/video/jngLnQIOZuw/video.html
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"Overhead" huh? So if you are up for the challenge maybe next time you should try a "belowground"?
That's for the submariners--no thanks!
Why sure, flaring is for landlubbers ;)
Nice cockpit audio
So?
So what? So let's dance!
czcams.com/video/ke3F5u1Pmnw/video.html
I could do that.
2:30 ---- a wonderful visual LESSON for all those "brilliant" DCS players who land HALF WAY DOWN THE RUNWAY
"this" is how you land!
at the actual approach end of the runway
#CmonOnGetItRightForOnce
lol
SDsc0rch 😲
@@FighterPilotPodcast - lol
its true 😄
Easier to fly than a Cessna 172
Fake.
Hmm... interesting, articulate assertion. Which part, and what makes you say that?
The Fighter Pilot Podcast
All of it. All a simulation. All lies perpetuated by the liberal media. Wake up. 🇺🇸 #MAGA2020 #MAGA