Underappreciated historical weapons: THE GUN SWORD!
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A new series looking at the underappreciated, somewhat unknown, historical weapons that really existed. In this episode we'll be looking at the GUNSWORD
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“I need to sharpen my gun and reload my sword”
XD lol 🤣
Gunlance
@@ChristianGonzalez-qu6fs a gun blade in monster hunter will be nice too
And reload my sword with molten steel
me every five seconds with my Gunlance in Monster Hunter
“Gunswords are hard to aim”
Squall: You are supposed to press R1 as soon as you slash someone.
AC 4: Force your foe to kneel, and place the sword on his neck.
fun fact, Squall's gunblade is designed to fire blanks, hence why there's very few scenes of him actually firing the gun like a gun
@@jclindsay007 In the original game the gunblade didn't even fire blanks. The trigger was supposed to make the blade vibrate so it gets a deeper cut. There isn't a single scene in the original game when the thing shoots at all, not sure about other games Squall shows up in though so I assume in later games the shooting blanks things was a thing.
@@synthemagician4686 I dont think it has anything to do with cutting deeper. The bullet provided a mini-explosion at the trigger pull for extra damage.
Laughs in pc
1800: Gunblade.
2000: Assault Rifle with grenade launcher attachment.
2020: Knife that is also a missle.
@KruzSTUDIO Knife with rockets attached to it.
2200 grenade launcher with laser attachment etc etc 😂
Knife with a scope
A knife with lasersight
"Dont worry, this is a fake gun."
Says they guy sitting in front of a literal PILE of deadly weapons!
😆👍
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit wow youre username and comment makes you seem real cool sir, do you not know how other countries work differently than yours?
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit every law abiding citizen should be ALLOWED to have one (assuming they aren't a convicted violent criminal, or mentally unsound), but I don't think everyone should have one. It should be their choice.
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit ....no not actually. The only anime I have ever watched was Pokemon, and beyond playing the games competitively now, I have never had anything else to do with anime.
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit Okay bud.
In America, gun laws are still stricter than most Europeans, Australians, Asians, etc. think they are. They're much, much less strict than in other countries, but they're still there, especially due to the current situation with our current president. (Sadly)
Australian police: “what’s that”
Shadiversity holding a gun sword: “a sword”
Caleb Bunch Australia: What’cha got there?
Shadiversity with a gun: a Pb and J sandwich
I hate to be that guy but you can stil get arrested for holding a sword out in public in australia
nugget 429 you really are THAT guy
@@nugget4296 thanks for that nugget of information.
@@nugget4296 I had to learn that the hard way XD
There's only one thing better than a Gun-Sword, a Shotgun-Axe.
Timely AoS reference especially with that sick premiere last weekend
JX Tan AoS?
Abraham Lincoln vampire Hunter there's a shotgun axe
Trim Tim Agents of Shield. It was a character’s weapon of choice for a time.
I got the reference, I feel special.
"You'd pick a bullet"
But... I can't throw that hard.
😂
Several nights at 4 am I have asked myself if a gun and a sword has ever been combined.
Then I’m reminded, Bayonets
More of a gun spear than a gun sword, in that case, but yeah.
They would be a lot better on rifles than pistols and that’s why knives were more common on pistols
The Socket Bayonette started in the mid 1600’s, before that daggers were made whose handles fit into the muskets bore, it gave the musketeers the ability to still have a spear but until the socket Bayonette appeared reloading was a problem, not to mention a successful thrust could result in your Bayonette getting lodged in your foe .
@@MGlBlaze You'd be surprised by how long some Bayonets get: I've seen Winchester "Muskets" (lever actions with 30" barrels, full length hand guards, and bayonet mounts) that have a saber attached to the front, and based on proportions, I'd say the saber's entire length is around 25", so you're practically holding a polearm of sorts that also happens to have 17 rounds of 44-40 (44 WCF).
That's just a knife on the end of a gun
"You just brought a knife to a gun fight"
Person with knifegun: Or, did I?
Person walks up with a uzi svihander, it seems I have the upper hand
@@Spiceodog I have the high ground
*Vsauce music starts playing*
Or is it a gun at a knife fight?
@@epauletshark3793 yes
"911 what's your emergency?"
"Yeah uuuhm, there's a buglar in my house and uuhm he just shot me with a knife"
911,Could you please repeat what you said(!
@Kurogane -sensei I laughed at that xD
Berd?
@@projectjavelin5948 *perhaps*
F33d M11 Tell me or else I’ll call the mega police!
In Star Wars rebels, there was a guy who had a lightsaber with a blaster built into it, in the configuration that Shadiversity suggests. Interesting.
Ezra
Lol that thing looked so ridiculous was a pretty cool concept though.
Ezra bridger
that's will be very impratical and non safe for usse
shad finally realizes that guns and swords can come together and live together in harmony
“Never bring a knife to a gun fight” Oh the irony
What If gun is strapped to knife?
Mobile Legends yikes
i got called weird so now im WeirdChamp
Yikes, Toxic
@@vespidix1187 what do you mean toxic? Is it "toxic" when i call a game trash?
@@vespidix1187 Mobile gamers oh no no no
So basically they evolved from "Lets put a gun on this sword." to "Let's put a sword on the end of this gun." And gave birth to bayonets.
It's simply the most efficient way to have a blade attached to a gun. Anything more and you start getting into "more dangerous to the user than the enemy" territory. This is because, outside of combat, it's simply not efficient or practical to hold the gun in any ready position. Instead, you have it shoulder-slung (in the case of rifles or shotguns) or holstered (in the case of handguns). When you take that into account, it's easy to see why it simply doesn't work. The bayonet works because it can easily be kept from accidentally hitting the bearer's body anywhere, and it can easily be removed.
Rifles with a bayonet are just shooty spears
My rifle always needs attention every 30 squeezes... I've never run out of bayonet ammo.
I get what you're saying but the bayonet was created with inspiration from a spear
@@wyattguilliams2621 seems likely, especially since the fighting style is very much that of a spear as well
7:25
Swings at enemy, shoots self in foot
shad: the gun is fake,
shad's mostly American audience: is this some joke i'm too free to understand?
* angry bald eagle noises intensifies
Australians can quite easily acquire a gun. Out of ten people that I work with about 4 are gun owners. We just don’t appreciate having to hear about school massacres every second week.
@@kacimbec2528 Indeed, I don't hear about school massacres either. School shootings basically stopped being a thing once a bigger issue was around.
guns can be misused.
Most freedoms we have can be misused. I'm not going to advocate for my libertys to be taken away because some stupid kid abused it.
But can you has AKs and ARs ?
@@Theclaidheamhmor yeah
The saying “don’t bring a knife to a gun fight” has a whole new meaning now
Or a gun to a knife fight.
or a fight to a knife gun
Gun knife, hadn't seen one of those since Metal Gear Solid 2.
My old man used to say to me: "Son, gun to bring fight to a don't."
Hold a knife in one hand and have a gun in other hand cod style
"the real life gun sword"
*sad bayonet noises*
@@andrewcampbell2242 "huh...thats a good question🤔"
*stab*
no thats a sword gun
Shob
More like gun knife
Biggest reason there's not more "gunblades": Recoil.
Recoil on firearms, particularly large bore or caliber pistols or rifles from earlier periods of time, is tremendous. Normally recoil isn't such a big deal, and at most can lead to bad bruises or broken wrists with improper handling of the gun... but if you suddenly add a sharp blade almost as big or bigger than the gun itself, recoil suddenly becomes a much more dangerous thing.
Probably one of the reasons a gun "sword" was never designed at the hilt like Shad displayed is because the recoil from the shot would send the blade right back into your shoulder... or face.
Same reason vertical sward is a bad idea, gun kicks, sword ends up in shooters head. Having the sword in the lateral of the gun barrel could have actually prevented kick as it would have to lift the blade not just the gun
Wouldn't you have to strap a six-pounder to the sword for recoil to be that bad? If the recoil of a firearm was so bad that it risked smacking you in the face with the weapon, I doubt pistols would have become famous either. And having a sword attached to the firearm adds to its weight, which will reduce the recoil. So why would a gunsword be made unusable because the recoil can supposedly cut your nose off or whatever?
Recoil on these things wouldn't be that bad. Most of them are black powder, black powder burns much slower then modern gunpowder therefore don't generate as much force back into the shooter. I doubt the calibers of these weapons would be very large since they still have to operate like a regular sword and couldn't have an excessively long barrel to house and burn enough powder to get a large ball moving at a reasonable velocity.
Most of these weapons also seem to have a very unique advantage over standard pistols, the barrel/chamber of the pistols are almost directly in line with the hilt meaning that much of the recoil would simply travel backwards and not pivot downwards like on modern firearms where the barrel/chamber is typically situated above the shooters hands. Weight out on the front of the weapon from the blade would have also helped keep the muzzle down but I only see that being useful on the gun knives shown in the video.
If I had to argue reasons why few of them existed it would be cost and practicality. These things would mostly be for personal protection but they would be prohibitively expensive, if you could afford one of these swords you could hire a couple of bodyguards. As a weapon of war they would also be useless.
"if you suddenly add a sharp blade almost as big or bigger than the gun itself, recoil suddenly becomes a much more dangerous thing."
the opposite would be true. the more mass you have on a firearm, the less apparent recoil you're going to experience. the heavier a firearm is, more energy is required to put it in motion. more mass, more inertia. so if you think about how you would calculate the amount of force required to move a stationary floating object in a vacuum (just so we can ignore things like static friction and air resistance), you'd use Newton's second law, F = ma, and you'd find that the amount of force required is proportional to the object's mass.
if you throw a huge steel blade onto a black powder gun with a six (or less) inch barrel like most of the examples shown, i doubt you'd feel much recoil at all.
it's not just mass, though. the closer the center of balance is to the muzzle, the less muzzle rise you're going to experience. the reason muzzle flip occurs in the first place is because the barrel of the firearm is generally always situated _above_ your arm - it's why they always flip up and they never flip down. there are a few kinds of firearms, the Chiappa Rhino comes to mind, that sort of take advantage of this. they lowered the bore axis as much as they could - the barrel is much closer to the center radial/ulnar axis of your arm, which makes the whole system less inclined to flip up and more inclined to travel straight back into your arm (and you can actually see that a lot of these gunblades have a similar design). this means more apparent recoil - but again, these weapons have much more mass than a regular pistol of the time. there are a couple of other ways to manage muzzle flip though - one of them is to simply make the firearm heavier towards the muzzle.
in other words - even if the recoil was pretty nasty for whatever reason - these gunblade designs aren't going to flip out of your hand and wind up in your throat or whatever.
having a gun perpendicular to the blade - yeah, that shit's probably going to come right back into your face. i think the only reason we don't see any evidence of that design is because that's just not how firearms were made and held at the time. the handles were still angled down, but they were still much more in-line with the barrel than a lot of modern handguns - like the way we still make a lot of rifles and shotguns.
if i had to guess why gunblades weren't more popular, i'd guess it's probably just a colossal pain in the ass to repair/replace. swords break a lot, man. guns can take a lot of internal abuse, but they're generally not designed to smack things with. these things would've been wildly expensive novelty items that their owners would likely have been reluctant to swing around. now they not only have to worry about damaging the blade, but all of the little moving parts in the gun as well.
Actually making a heavier gun would have less recoil, it would only be increased if you made the gun lighter or added more powder. So no, your entire premise is wrong.
Introducing: the Redeemer from Warframe, a sawed off shotgun with twin blades around the barrel
Strictly speaking I think you'd be better off with a long barreled shotgun. Sawed Offs have such a wide spread that I feel the blades around the barrel would either be a hindrance or be themselves damaged every time you emptied the barrel
Yessss
God... tenno are everyFUCKINGwhere these days...
@@anotherjhon8193 not meaning to be rude, but do you have a problem with warframe?
I still think shotguns with a blade is pointless, I mean shotguns are usually used in close combat...
This can only lead to one thing.....
The G U N S W O R D G U A N T L E T
WhiteMaskGuy Yes! Yes! YEEEESSSS!!!
No the ........ Gun sword infinity Gantlet
They probably tried that in India
Hell yeah
You mean the hidden blade?
when you cant have guns in Australia so you gotta stock up on that medieval warfare.
@Sterling Cross Sorry, you can't have that here eather :(
Cant have any means of self defence. Even martial arts can get you into alot of trouble if you use "unnecessary force" Australia and New Zealand are places where "the weak are meat and the strong do eat." Smh
@@rabbidninja79 Absolutely right mate, the 'weak' are always suffering at the hands of the 'strong' here, unlike your country. That's why your average homicide rate this decade is close to 5 per 100,000 while ours is close to 1 per 100,000!!!
Ignorant dickhead. Read the facts and weep dataunodc.un.org/crime/intentional-homicide-victims
@Sterling Cross That's fine, but it doesn't change the fact. It is shocking though. I have to admit; I didn't believe your claim at first, but after looking myself, you are correct www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
That's crazy. I hope people don't interpret those stats to reach racist conclusions like 'black people are inherently violent'. Violent conditions have a tendency to breed violence, and poverty can breed desperation; a deadly combo. Growing up, you generally become what you're surrounded by, regardless of race. Anyway, even though I rubbed it in that other guy's face in salty retaliation, I do hope things get better for you guys...
so when an inevitable war happens and a country invades Australia her people will not be able to defend themselves............or if a tyrannical dictator ever seizes power, Australia's people cannot rise up and defend herself.......
I live in Texas. Back in 2017 they passed a law removing all blade restrictions in the state which means I can legally walk around in public with my rapier. A friend asked me what I'd do with a sword in Texas where everyone has guns. Of course their first mistake was assuming I didn't have one of those too! 😄
Lol at the start... I'm a Yank who lived in Australia for a bit many years ago... And I don't know if most Aussies are/were like this, but in Queensland in the 90s, many were quite WTF on the idea of PB&J and when I'd convince them to actually try it, it was always exactly like this intro. :D
Ah! A Gun that shoots pommels! Ingenious!
Vaerthelmn 52 now we can end our enemies rightly from range!
And yet you can find it in fiction (Cervantes form Soul Caliber).
it would be better, if it shoot spinning saw blades. rather than pommels
Vaerthelmn 52 what would someone do with an imitation firearm?
its easier to aim a weighted pistol. some people even put counterbalances on there pistols
“Do you want the gun or the sword my lord?”...... Lord :“YES!”
Oh you know about the "yes please" rule too? For those unaware of this glorious rule if someone gives you the choice of two or more options and you want them all you say "yes please". Example your mom asks if you want chocolate cake or lemon cake, you want both so you say "yes please"
Sapphire Dicson uh what? I don’t know if you know this but saying yes when given two option was a meme for a while I am just saying this Incase you are not joking about not knowing about this (which I merely inferred from the way you wrote your reply) however I am almost certain this has had at least some influence in the creation in this meme
@@monochromatic9601 actually I knew about the meme, but what I refer to as the "yes please rule" is something I got from my dad who doesn't keep up with internet memes or social media at all. I just thought someone would get a kick out of my reply if I wrote it or find it mildly interesting. How'd I do?
Sapphire Dicson it was good but you probably should have stayed it was joke or made it more obvious that it was a joke
@@monochromatic9601 eh... yeah but sarcasm or any sort of tone is interchangeable when it's all words and no reading aloud by the writer. Such is the down fall of written words, they sound different in everyone's head unless made specific which is annoying to write and allow the reader to hear the tone you imagine exactly as it is. The way I imagine me saying it is like matter if factly or cheeky.
"Sword Gun, mightier than a Pen Gun" - Stan Smith
As someone who mains Gunbreaker in FF14 I love this video
My brother, I started as SAM after I was lvl50 but then found gunbreaker to be one of my favorites and I didn’t even want to tank. Now I’m actually decent at leading the party. Started playing a month ago btw
Uses a melee weapon.
"RELOADING"
This brings a whole new meaning to “don’t bring a knife to a gun fight”
Bruh
Uh oh stinky
Can't...understand...how analogy...works...hnnnnnnn!
Brain.exe has stopped working
“AH BUT WHAT IF I BRING BOTH A KNIFE AND A GUN??”
*Laugh in Madness Combat*
"Question: Does the plan involve gun swords? I watch a lot of animé and, trust me, you're gonna want some gun swords."
- Soos 🔧🔨🛠️
Soos was a Chad and will always be a Chad
"Before everyone panics, this gun isn't real."
I literally had an M1 rifle in my hands when he said this. Given the subject of the video, I now wish I had a bayonet for it.
Tape kitchen knife
@@Chriscraft-ug3sz smithing 100
american pride
@@Chriscraft-ug3sz improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
@@Chriscraft-ug3sz then it becomes a kitchen gun
"Oh yeah? Well my bayonette has a GUN!"
Technically the extra weight on the front of the gun would help even out recoil, kinda like how the weight of a Desert Eagle .50 AE helps mitigate the amount of recoil it would have otherwise.
If all else fails, stab it into them, and then start shooting. No recoil when it's braced in their right kidney.
I see where you are coming from if you measured out the perfect length blade so that it is balanced better than it would be otherwise would be amazing, however most modern guns are balanced as best as possible and the blade would be so small that it would be a gun knife at that point, because remember you can have too little weight on the front to make recoil worse, but you can also have too much
If you're close enough to stab them, why not just shoot them in the gut? And why not buy a better gun than a Deagle?
@@BigPuddin I mean that is what the swords for if they get that close. (Also it looks cool and badass so why tf not)
@@cervod2529 Because it's impractical. If they're that close than squeezing the trigger in their gut is going to be far more effective. Or why not just draw you actual sword? Trying to go at someone in a melee with a terribly balanced sword gun Frankenstein when they have a properly balanced sword is...kinda bad. Gun swords like the sabres above are hilt heavy and nowhere near as nimble as a normal sword. That means you're at a severe disadvantage in terms of parrying.
@@cervod2529 Not to mention the anemic cartridges used back in the day. You have nowhere near the stopping power as a standalone pistol, as you can't fit too much of a chamber and barrel onto the knife/sword without making the thing so unwieldy that there's no point in even bothering with the bladed end. There's a reason people in this period generally stuck with a saber and pistol. If the shot doesn't stop him or there's a malfunction, you can't fight him off with your sword.
I realize this is an old video, and the odds of my comment being read by Shad are low, but I just wanted to say that I have encountered one example of a sword/gun combo that has a blade aligned perpendicularly to the gun barrel. I own a book on historical firearms that shows a World War 2 era Japanese katana that has the traditional hilt replaced by a Nambu semi-automatic pistol. The description in the book notes that this weapon was a one-off, possibly done by some traditionally-minded officer in the Japanese Army.
Isshin has entered the chat
"by some traditionally-minded officer in the Japanese Army"
So traditionally-minded that he wanted to modernize an ancient weapon :D
Sorry. I felt compelled. Your comment was actually awesome :)
in my citys castle theres a museum where you can see a gunsword and i think you can see a nearly same smodel in the video
Imagine the surprise of people when someone breaks the law and this man just took out a fucking katana *and then you hear the cocking of a gun*
i think in star wars rebels someone has a lightsaber blaster that's mounted that way too. hope he sees your comment.
Knowing Shad's taste for Soul Calibur, It's interesting that Crevantes from the games wasn't brought up when talking about the quillon aligned style of gun sword as he uses one just like that.
Almost 3 years and this is still one of my favorite intro scenes.
7:05
*(shoots gun, sword recoils into the shoulder)*
yea i was thinking exactly this too
High risk high reward
Doesn’t seem like it would be a huge risk unless you had a .357 sword gun lol.
@@Ligierthegreensun i dont know, it might not take all that much recoil to be a hazard considering how much more top heavy it would be.
Granted flintlockes had less impulse so the recoil is kinda hard to compare
@@rocketchips2164 I mean you're definitely completely correct that it would be massively top-heavy. It just wouldn't produce enough for for you to stab yourself, or at least not do any appreciable damage. It would require ridiculous amounts of force coming out of the firearm. If you look at the recoil of even modern firearms which have a ton of power compared to older breach loading firearms, the recoil is fairly negligible until you start getting to firearm calibers higher than a certain range. Even those I think you might nick yourself but you wouldn't be pulling the weapon out of your body because it imparted so much recoil that you skewered yourself.
For reference, here's a video of formerly famous gun youtube channel guy shooting a S&W .500 magnum.
czcams.com/video/rvnpUpMeD8s/video.html
That's an extremely powerful handgun. @1:45 is around where he shoots it. Notice the recoil is pretty substantial, yet the gun barrel only really rises a few inches. Granted, having a sword near the grip would probably make the gun a lot more imbalanced, but to the extent that the sword or knife would bounce back and stab you.
“A gun always beats a sword.”
-That guy from Stardust Crusaders
Ah i See a man of Culture yare yare daze
But not an unarmed high schooler with temper issues
*Laughs in Confused Confusion is Confused*
Polnareff.
Half a horse
i remember in a certain old anime, probably gai rei zero, the gun katana. the gun was use not to shoot but to help add more power to swings, cutting anything where the blade will suppose to stuck
So it works the same way as the Final Fantasy gunblade.
But, even dumber (and therefore cooler) gun Katana: Jetstream Sam's, where the gun literally launches the blade for what absolutely must be the most devastating single strike iajutsu technique of all time within his universe.
John Villanueva I think the Ga Rei one was like how Pulverizer work in Killing Floor 2 (adding shotgun blast to boost up the attack and damage)
@@theendersmirk5851 It's Jetstream Sam, so.
Australian: owns a fake gun
Police: *"Oi, you got a loicense for that?"*
American: owns multiple guns for every person in the household
Police: *"Understandable, have a nice day."*
Me: "It's that a sword"
Shad: "It's also a customizable high impact revolver"
Me: "What?"
Shad: "It's also a gun"
Rwby reference.
@@Tindog42656 Yep!
Ah i see a man of culture as well
@@Tindog42656 Indeed! :3
UwU
Gun swords are super effective, you just need to press R1 at the exact right time.
i like that reference
Then rekt a fool with a bone ashed cannon
Not to mention that the sword didnt actually fire projectials, they were blanks to make the blade vibrate
too bad my life is on auto mode so the gun trigger dont activate for me
@@Wookie_oo7 it's a bloodborne reference, not final fantasy
Shad: yeah of course this gun is fake, is never own a weapon like that.
The 20 swords and axes behind him: ⚆ _ ⚆
The musket and a knife at the end of it is the most iconic to me then an actual sword combined with a gun
Okay, I am gonna say just one thing:
*Machine Gun with Electric Saw*
MG42 is both a Machine Gun AND a Buzz Saw.
I feel like my testosterone levels are rising
I have a feeling you would enjoy Warhammer 40k
@@Gree27 I've heard about this game, but what is it exactly (apart from expensive)?
@@someone-iv2nt the setting/lore or acctual gameplay
That intro was just awesome :D I so cracked up, have a like!
His face when he had the gun and sword. I lost it! It was so perfect!
It's like Fear, Happiness, and Excitement all at once.
Personally I think a pistol is already difficult to aim. Without a knife the “standard” would be shooting a man size target maybe 2 foot by 2 foot at 21 feet. That’s really not that far. Look I’m fairly experienced with fire arms and at 21 feet I average about a 10 inch shot group. Hang a bulky knife on it and I really think it would hinder performance greatly. Now add a knife to a rifle isn’t a big deal your supporting a rifle with 2 hands and a shoulder and the sights a greater distance apart improving accuracy significantly. In short a knife on a pistol imho is a novelty and not practical. A bayonet on a rifle is much more practical.
Tommy Severt and that is why you use it in close combat.....
The bayonet affects the accuracy of the rifle by interfering with the air stream and by Toba degree, pulling on the front of the rifle. Along with getting caught on stuff when trying to maneuver around a building or vehicle.
No so much a issue with musket line fighting. But when you want to take aim at a target a thousand yards away, that becomes an issue.
A secondary note, it could also interfere with a suppressor.
you never hit past 500 meters, with an ordinary rifle and the accuracy is limited by the shooter way before it is by the gun
The Gunlance from Monster Hunter is finally getting in real life yey
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit Since when was Monster Hunter an anime game???
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit Eh, Monster Hunter never had a story until it's fourth game (it's more gameplay based than anything), the silliness is one of its charms in my opinion. But the game isn't for everyone.
@animefurriesweebs arepieces ofshit bro wut
Had to look it up, holy crap that's a *gun*
@@mrgreenboy644 you forgot the *lance*
From what I've discovered, historical gun-swords had the following problems:
1) Bad balance, as you noted.
2) Cleanliness; the blood and viscera the blade got caked in would end up clogging up the gun barrel, and the weapon would be either dangerous or completely unable to fire.
3) Accuracy; the short barrels and non-existent sights ensured that you pretty much couldn't aim properly with them, and you certainly couldn't hit a target that was much further away than the tip of the sword (Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag illustrates this quite nicely, as the main character has to actually stab his target before he fires in order to hit them.) Mounting the gun as one of the quill-ens would not solve this problem, as you would have to bring the sword guard up to your eye level to aim, even if the blade is thin enough to not obstruct the actual sights.
Using modern, magazine-fed firearms for a gun sword would be utterly inadvisable because the mechanisms that allow for a magazine feed are surprisingly delicate. It's the reason that using a pistol as a club like the old flint-locks and their contemporaries were is discouraged in the military and police forces.
Amusingly, Henry VIII (if I remember correctly) carried a related weapon integrating three gun barrels into the shaft of a mace.
The face of realisation when you think of the gunsword XD
Im am extremely surprised noone has brought up the Japanese Nambu-Katana configuration, it has the exact setup Shad talks about at 7:08
I love how he is holding Squalls gunblade in the thumbnail
The brother your bayonet never told you he had
Herpy Depth
Because he knew you would cheat on him.
It's like your long lost body builder brother who's mr world-wide
Is it me or does shad's wall get progressively more well armed? Think about it, he starts with a shield and two swords or and wooden replicas he made, then we move onto some shields and what maybe a couple of wall hangers, then we get a huge armory enough to provide a small army with weapons (And the weapons keep getting more diverse ranging from axes, katanas, Chinese Dao, excalibur, rapiers and a whole bunch of longswords!) and now he is flaunting a (replica) pistol?!! I assume next he is going to show up with a bloody canon!
That makes a lot of sense since he is Australian
Yes shad, please, please do an intro with a cannon.
Canis Arcani he already got something more destructive. The pommel of annihilation ( *｀ω´)
Well the question comes down to whether or not canons are allowed under Australian firearm laws
There's actually a reason. Soon he shall create the Kingdom of Shad, and he will need knights and men-at-arms
Star wars actually had a sort of fun blade. In star wars rebels, the main character makes his lightsaber with a blaster on the hilt facing his enemies
"Lefauchaux" can basically just be pronounced "Le-Fo-Sho"!
not with an English accent
meanwhile in the old times: how about a gunkite shield? me lord
shad: I can finally die in peace
*I am henry the 8th i am...*
Pretty sure that's an actual thing, not that it's practical.
@@theduchyofmilanball3157 Henry’s we’re round but more interesting is the fact the gunsmith who engineered them for him made them breach loader pistols in an era where muzzle loaders were still the state of the art firearms. TY for beating me to the punch on the Henry the 8th comment as I feel a lot better that I’m not the only history buff who knew that particular piece of info.
first thing when i heard "gun sword" was "a gun sword? how does that work?" and then the second thing i thought was a bayonet.
That intro was awesome, also watching your videos makes me happy, idk much about medieval stuff but ik a bit, and sword equals cool, which means your cool, good educational content that is both funny and quality, keep up the work and stay safe shad!
Shad I am so happy you called it a magazine and not a clip, btw love your videos.
Shad: “a gun for a guard is a better option”
Recoil: “...no...”
Only someone without knowledge of how a gun works would believe this would work
@@gregresnik1830 pretty accurate considering shad is in Australia and he's more of a blades expert than a guns expert.
I was thinking about how ridiculous it would be to try to aim that when you're behind cover. You have the whole blade sticking out. Plus if there's something above you, you won't be able to mind it as easily as if it's in front of you where you can see it. But damn the recoil kills it even more.
@@mrkiky and thus the gangsterstyle was born. ;)
Can't you use it to your advantage though?
I'm pretty sure the main character in star wars rebels had a lightsaber with a small laser pistol in the hilt
He did and it was oriented the way he suggested at 7:20 ish
Yeah, that dude had the high ground
ezra bridger did have one like that until he got the basic green one
@@nathanielwalker6195 like a fucking casual
And he even used a Common fighting style
Everyone knows or you play defensive o you use 2 lightsabers
Literally looked through the comments to find this.
I was only half paying attention to the intro and completely flipped my shit when I saw 2 jars seamlessly close into a sandwich
One of the big reasons why bayonettes are usually removable is because they make it harder to load muzzleloaders
Originally, they were just shoved down the barrel which made it impossible, but even when the ring bayonette (goes around the barrel instead of inside) was invented, it still added a few critical seconds on loading
*Owns countless real swords* Australia: Alright, alright
*Owns fake gun* Australia: YOU WOT MATE?
@Ufasdfgewaf The problem is that the gun is fake so it's stupid to say that you can't own an imitation firearm though I think the thing that should be said is that
Also the reason that Australia is saying that is that they don't want you to get shot since it's clear that his gun has a black tip saying "THAT'S A REAL GUN SHOOT HIM!" however I'm american so Idk if an orange tip is what will clarify that it's not a real firearm or if there rules are stricter since I only know American and British gun laws.
@Ufasdfgewaf tell that to the ~20 brit cops that got in a standoff with a dude that had a kitchen knife.
@Ufasdfgewaf as a general rule most people have good intentions, and understand the concept of consequences. There always will be people who don't fall under the general rule, but it is what it is. There are two schools of thought, and this is the reason of the controversy here in the US.
It's also pretty wild to me that having a fake handgun is regulated like so. Because rather than use leathal force they could easily beanbag your ass to the ground if you get stupid.
I also understand the cops point of veiw where you're looking down the barrel of a gun you don't know if it's real. Been there, done that. Beat him with his own very real weapon. A military M4 carbine.
(guns are for civilians, weapons can be guns, guns are not always weapons. Squares are rectangles, rectangles are not always squares concept)
Personally I'd rather be armed and ready to take out a threat to people around me, my nation, and myself. I do also have some amount of rifle training thanks to the Army. I'm no combat veteran yet, but I'm also more experienced than many other people. Frankly I believe you should have to take a course to own a firearm, unless you have a military or police background. I believe it is part of responsible gun ownership to try and be there best you can.
Ufasdfgewaf No, getting stabbed is definitely worse than being shot.
RWBY took this concept to the extreme tho
“See that scythe? Well that’s a high impact sniper rifle too! See that sword? Yup, it’s also a gun. That axe is a gun too. Oh, that sledgehammer? No that’s not a gun too but it is a GRENADE LAUNCHER”
galaxy hitchhiker72 I don't watch RWBY, but if I created my own franchise you would see way crazier things.
galaxy hitchhiker72 hahaha
Talking Contoller no you wouldn't there's a sword thats also a sythe AND a gun, there's shotgun gauntlets, there is a thermos that is a staff/bat and a flamethrower, and so many more, there is even an arm that's also a gun... There was a spear, that was also a short sword, and a rifle, there is a baseball bat/ swarm rocket launcher, and a dog that when employed in conjunction with one of the previous weapons is a cute flaming ball of death and is perfectly fine thereafter...
Michael Halpern
I’ve seen the series. Why does all this exist? Because Rooster Teeth.
Talking Controller I challenge you
can't wait for the inevitable april fool's video that's just Shad eating a pb+j sandwich
Am a gunsmith in America. (and former US Navy Sailor)
What you haven't considered is how rifles are actually used in modern warfare. The average combat engagement happens at about 300 yards. When shooting at that distance, actually putting bullets into people sized targets requires a fair amount of precision. Adding a large weight to the firearm would make it very difficult to hold the weapon steady when aiming at targets at that distance. Where the bayonet shines is in trench warfare, where you might be defending a charge against your trench, in witch case being able to stab up with a spear like weapon is better than trying to reach up with a sword, or charging against an enemy trench, where again you are going to be reaching down at the enemy, so again a spear type weapon is more useful. In modern day warfare, you would be hard pressed to find a solider who has actually used a bayonet against an enemy. Either you are shooting at each other, or you are within 1 foot struggling, and a KA-BAR mounted on your plate carrier is going to be your go-to. There just isn't a modern situation where you could make use of a large blade on a rifle.
The only really practical sword gun combo I could think of would be a sword-shotgun combo where the gun part serves no other purpose then to blast targets at point blank range without having to aim and then the sword blade acts as the follow up weapon after the initial blast. Better than a sword would probably be a mace or axe as you would have more to hold unto with both hands to handle the shotgun recoil.
@@WOKEAFAKU yeah they already made that bud, lmao. Called a trench gun, had a 3 foot bayonet on the end of it; pretty sure garrand thumb has a video on it.
There was always Blackbeard's solution. Carrying a huge number of loaded pistols. fire toss fire toss.
There's a ridiculous kung fu movie called Return of the Chinese Boxer where there is a samurai who does that.
That's fine when you're a rich captain and can afford to replace all the pistols you will inevitably lose and not recover. For arming a significant number of soldiers, though...
Also known as the Meryl Strife method.
New York reload
Is that really how blackbeard operated?Did he found Tediore?
Weapon smith: "Which weapon would you like a gun or a sword?"
God Emperor of Man: "Yes."
He thunder claw tho and fire sword
Knifle
Spear bolters
Oh that intro was PRICELESS! the look on your face Shad! 😂
That intro killed me😂😂
Imagine having one of those situation in a swordfight where one person is pinning the other one and one is struggling not to get stabbed
Except you're the pinner and you have this sword
Found yo- wait
Deception
*Laugh in Cervantes*
Hey hey hey hey!!! Don't play me like that! I thought I found him again darn it
Wait haven't I seen you somewhere before-
Shad Fact: Freddy Krueger is no longer on the loose. He apparently fell asleep and dreamt of Shad.
You should post videos on this channel
Maybe he was scared of his pommel of Mas DESTRUCTION!!
This is channel is not managed or curated by Shad.
*Takes bite of peanut butter and jelly sandwich: It all makes sense now...
7:00 there is an example of a sword being attached to a gun in a vertical position. In WW2 some Japanese officers had special pistols that had a katana attatched to the grip
I love the look he gets, after putting the peanut butter and jelly sandwich together, when he holds the sword and the gun. You could have no name of the video and many people would understand what he is getting at right away.
*ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS*
with regards to your question about gun swords being tiring, since you couldn't grab the blade without having your hand in line with the muzzle flash, it probably would be. especially when you consider that you would have to aim for a longer period of time due to the lack of sights.
also the configuration of the gun sword functioning as a quillon would cause any misfire to go horizontally where it might hit someone.
finally (and shad, if you read this far you're awesome), the reason why we don't use a larger blade for a bayonet is that we use them for stabbing, and anything over 6 inches is over penetration. plus we greatly value a low weight rifle since it allows you to turn it more quickly in response to a threat (and we already carry a lot of equipment).
Most sword belts hang the sword at about a 45 degree angle. So a quillon barrel should be pointing at the ground just as much as the blade barrel gun swords. The symmetrical double barrel design would of course have the other barrel pointed at your armpit and the sky. So if you want double barrel gun quillons maybe better to have them both pointing the same direction with triggers in the same place like a more typical double barrel pistol, and bull puped with the midpoint of the barrel over the blade for better balance.
One downside I see to a quillion mounted gun is recoil. Guns tend to recoil in an upwards direction, which would be aggravated by the weight of the blade above it. The gun/sword recoiling upwards would translate to the blade swinging down towards your own head.
That is why prefer the asymmetrical design with a single edged blade. Can also be more comfortably half sworded to help manage recoil. So the best grip might be a handlebar grip kinda gangsta style.
Aaron Murphy well the weight of the sword would counteract the recoil of the pistol so safety of shooting would be good
boxfox reyes swords aren't that heavy and with a high cal pistol like a 45 would cause a bit more recoil which u might stab your face
Rwby: *Everything is a Gun except for Shawn's sword*
Gun Sword: Am I a joke to you?
Gun Nunchucks in RWBY: *Exist*
Shad: THROW THAT ABOMINATION IN THE DUMPSTER!!!
shad: don't worry guys, the gun is fake lol
also shad: **literally surrounded by swords and other various blades**
Imagine when doom guy discovers these
Not enough barrels, also needs bigger caliber
@@onetrucksizedsalmon2962 more
The super Shotgun of Doom Eternal comes pretty close, although, that is a meat hook, that pulls you to the target, and then you can blast it to pieces.
“I’ll attach a BFG on top of my chainsaw!”
@@probablynotyou9286 MORE!
"what seems to be the problem here?"
"He got chocolate in my peanut butter."
"He got peanut butter on my chocolate."
He got his gun in my sword
He got his sword on my gun
You got your trout in my peanutbutter!
You got your peanutbutter on my trout!
If anyone gets that reference right off the bat, freaking kudos.
Cretaal I'm triple rocked to the core about your reference. 👽😁
Donald Hudson
I'm not. It was hhhhhhhhhorrible, just horrible
I'm not going to lie. I had to look it up. Lol. I'd remembered it from somewhere, but just couldn't pull it from the ether. :)
Australia, land of many dangerous fauna: "Yeah, let's ban guns"
Always remember:
The most dangerous of beast is man, especially with heavy weaponry.
A quick answer to the cross guard being a gun would be the damage the gun revives while blocking, the increased time between drawing, and shooting the gun could cause kick back that makes the sword slice into you.
This comment section is the most fantastic battleground: gun buffs vs history buffs vs fantasy nerds vs couch scientists. It's a battle of 4 armies!
Carson Rush you sr just read my mind!!
Do the sword buffs count as the history buffs?
Then there are the crazy ones who are all 4 at once
Hey, some of us are all four of those things!
XD
when you have something that's really really cool and you combine it with something else which is really really cool you end up with a scythe which is also a customizable high impact sniper rifle
Ruby Rose to the challenge
A _giant_ sniper-scythe. To be fair to this 15-year-old (from a fantasy setting), she often does a blade-plant to help aim, and she uses the recoil from her shots to enhance her swings. And _Crescent Rose_ isn't even the most fantastical weapon in the series. On Team RWBY alone both _Myrtenaster_ and _Gambol Shroud_ are more implausible. Especially since _Myrtenaster_ basically shoots magic bullets instead of more realistic ones. But _Gambol Shroud_ 's blade folds up around the barrel, and Blake can somehow fire it while slinging it around on its ribbon to use the recoil and slice-and-dice.
And then there's Nora's grenade hammer.
... "It's also a gun."
@@BNuts yeah, it's epic when ruby uses the recoil to decapitate the nevermore
@@BNuts To paraphrase the late great Oum, "Dust is basically Materia"
Weiss is using Dust, not Bullets.
Ruby uses Dust Bullets.
Weiss just uses Dust.
Blake uses Dust Bullets
Yang uses Dust shotgun shells.
The difference is that Weiss's weapon, upon further examination is using the powdered form of Dust, and is using what appears to be an air pressure based release form, like Spray paint or aerosol cans.
Also, in terms of building their weapons IRL and using them, Ren and Weiss win.
I have a (partly, Dust is still fake, so can't use that) Myrtenaster in real life, it functions perfectly well as a rapier, and even has a little spinning piece like the chamber in the show.
Ren's weapons are actually buildable, you just have to make the blades be 3 smaller pieces that would extend out into 1 blade.
There is a +1 hour video where a REAL rocket scientist who actually understands the ballistics and engineering behind how to build these weapons covers it.
Don't forget Cervantes in Soul Calibur; his offhand weapon was a Gun Blade; where the blade is pointing up; and the pistol is basically the weapon's handle & guard.
10:25 Note for science fiction writing as well: I often compared knight armor with space suits of the modern day in terms of functionality and effectiveness, including the drawback of needing assistance in putting it on as well as the price of such, and often combined both knight armor with space suit for science fiction writing.
I find Halo and Cyberpunk to have similar technology levels, and thus imagined what Spartans would look like without their suits of armor on and armed only with pistols. Also, I always imagined Star Wars meets Star Trek to be this sort of an archeology treasure-hunting sort of scenario, with the Enterprise lost in the Galaxy and therefore in space and time. I could imagine having a Star Trek uniform with a phaser on my right hip and a lightsaber on my left but then putting Mandalorian armor over it and attach the lightsaber to the blaster afterwards as its bayonet. However, putting the Mandalorian armor on and taking it off would be like what knight's armor and space suits had in common: requiring assistance. So, having an Iron Man style assembler located at the air lock would make sense. That way, I take it off when I get back inside the ship.
What color would your lightsaber be, though, according to your personality?
That sabre-long rifle combo looks awesone.
Orin Anthony Yes, unfortunately it would result in an ineffective gun, and a really shitty sword. Quite cool for fictional settings though. :)
In the later part of your video (around 7:45) when you mention that you haven't seen a gunsword with the blade perpendicular to the gun barrel, look up "nambu sword pistol", it has the exact configuration you were talking about and was around during World War 2. While it seems that there was only one example, it did exist.
I came to the comments hoping someone would mention those.
"It seems my gunblade has caught your eye. You may have seen Garleans wielding something similar, but this is the genuine article."
Gunblades are really cool weapons, and I love using them as Gunbreaker in FF14. Would really love to own one similar to Gaius Van Baesalr's!
Seeing the way that you held it and the way most were designed I think a common place idea for today would be a gun along the cross guard to where you could shoot it laid up
it wasn't only swords and knives they did this to, but also one-handed axes and maces, and i think a few pole-arms as well, just an fyi
I always thought Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag's Gunsword was a steampunk made-up addition to the game, turns out it actually existed.. that's amazing!
Same.
Do not fire without leather gloves on!
Unless you like powder burns on your hands.
*Prove that Ubisoft really dig history class extremely deep to fantasize Assassin Creed*
Cervantes from Soul Caliber games has a pistol within the guard of his sword. (hidden)
Very sneaky.
One of my favorite moves to perform with him.
Awsome video! That concept of the musket/long blade is really cool (if not abit silly) id imagine that would be used like a claymore, two handed and swung. I think squalls revolver has some merit, i think the angle of the handle would help with weight. A more relaxed way of holding it would be easier on the wrist i would think. But this was a very cool video!
Smh all these kids with their gun swords
Real men use sword swords
Double ended swords?
Thrashes swords on top of swirds! (A sword sword bayonet)
Double bladed Sword Nuke, Sword Hydrogen Bomb!!!
Have to admit that would be a hot commodity.
... These "Tacticool" crowd has vanity hemorrhaging out their wazoo. >):^/
All ya need is a mass of steel to bash things until they brake in half. [^:(<
The simpler a weapon is, the more reliable it is when push comes to shove.
Lol I enjoyed that intro 😂
The Revolver: "NOT THIS"
Squall: who was asking you???
There's a reason for why early rifles don't have permanently attached blades: they were mostly muzzleloaders, which is quite difficult when you have a knife in a place into which you will be required to load