Crazy Poker Fight! Cocky American Accuses Italian Pro of Robbery!
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- Jeff Lisandro and Prahlad Friedman nearly come to blows during the 2006 World Series of Poker Main Event when Friedman accused Lisandro of not posting his ante. Things got so heated that Lisandro threatened to kick Friedman's teeth in and take his head off!
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Tony Saprano had every right to be mad. You gotta be 100% before insulting someone's integrity.
Prahlad knew that the missing ante was an indicator that Tony never had the makings of a varsity athlete
@@ILoveDawko thankfully he never visited his uncle afterwards...
He never had the makings of a varsity anterior.
Very allegorical, the sacred and the propane
@@maliant16 anterior? His house looked like shit
“Mom can we please have a Tony G!”
“No, we have a Tony G at home.” 😂
Lol, underrated comment
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What a comment 😂
😂😂😂😂
underrated comment 😂
If you close your eyes, you would almost assume it was Tony G.
I wasn't looking when it came on. I thought it was lol
Both Aussies??
@@peternagy-im4be Tony is Lithuanian
@@thespook1482 Tony G was actually in the Lithuanian government!!! Probably attacking more Russians.
@@peternagy-im4be yeah grew up in Oz
“Eric Molina looks reasonable” that’s how you know there’s something off
There was a time when accusing someone of cheating like that would lead to a shootout.☠️
Friedman would never have the guts for a shootout lol. That whiny little worm immediately ran and hid behind the floor manager like it was his dad lol. And then started crying about getting threatened in public after he made false accusations in public.
Yep he would be a dead man shot before he could see it coming. 👍You could get shot for less playing poker in the west. 👍
That was a time when you would die from a splinter.
It's funny but conservatives today are the ones who get worked up by stuff like this. At the same time, they accuse others of being snowflakes.
I think it would have lead to
Dude losing his head if this wasn’t so publicized. He had a lot of protection. He hid behind the floor guy
Mannn they really don't televise Poker like this anymore. Good ol' days...
Uh because of covid? Lol it'll be back soon. Sports stadiums are getting back to full capacity. No reason why this shouldnt be back as well
@@macewindujr2656 no because people are better at poker and more disciplined
did you not see hellmuth vs daniel ? lol
I miss the days of tony g and hellmuth and those lads. So good
It's just gto nerds now, well basically anyway. I miss the old days of big personalities and crazy plays.
Shouldn’t the title be “Pralad Friedman falsely accuses someone of cheating and make a total fool of himself.”
Not really he was right someone didn't pay ante, he also said he wasn't sure if it was Lissandro. Lissandro got away with a ton of rule violations and then got bluffed pretty badly by Prahlad
You can’t accuse someone and tell them publicly you don’t trust them unless you’re sure. Pralad effed up here.
Just curious, do you think Lisandra behaved well?
@@martinkopberg1591 in the circumstances, I think it was appropriate, you can’t accuse someone of cheating. Lisandro gave him plenty of chances to leave it before he lost his cool, even though he may have been out of line threatening him, you can’t call someone a cheater (with no evidence) and expect them to just sit there and take it.
@@briansymmes7917 yeah but threatening some one like that, is actually a crime, isn’t it? Don’t think pralad would do something about it, just sayin ‘.
When Friedman says ‘I don’t trust you sir’ I think that gives it away that he was just trying to put Lisandro on tilt
Call me a noob, but doesn't the dealer have a responsibility to check everyone antes?
Yes, but dealers are commonly incompetent.
Even in my city, when all the players are high skilled and known by everyone on the table and in the casino, the dealers just enjoy the game and dont think anyone of those players with thousands of hours on the tables would make any kind of mistake...
It's no wonder why the dealer was asking them to please drop it
@@veekay3158 The poker players are to stupid to lay the ante in front of them over the line, because they think they are „cool“ when they throw it around…
These Losers probably didn‘t see a naked woman for years, that‘s why they behave like this…
@@I3AcKP4cK Oh, I thought it was another player saying that lol, my bad.
Lisandro’s face at 2:00 is like “Oh lord give me patience not to break his teeth” hahahah
You can't call someone a thief or liar in public without 100% proof.The moment it was known that he was wrong and caused a disturbance and calling someone a cheat he should of been removed from the game. The problem is the game organisers ignoring it.
its a game about money... you cant remove somebody from the game for saying distasteful especially if they are voiding their money in the process, but you can however remove somebody for threats as that is against the law. the guy did something morally wrong by calling him a thief but you take it 20 steps further throwing around threats when youre angry.
How do you get proof.. its ok to say something but not 10 times in row just talk to one of the dealers etc
According to Wikipedia he was right though
@@jthedge17 its in the video he was wrong. The small blind didn't ante up. The guy he said didn't ante actually did.
I don't know where you get your information but if you have a strong suspicion that someone is not playing fair you don't need 100% proof before you speak up. If that was the case you could never say anything even if a player was stealing right under your nose because YOU don't have the proof. It's the house that has the proof if your lucky and they can figure it out.
Lisandro *WAS NOT* out of line. He had been continually accused of cheating for several minutes, and Friedman *WOULD NOT STOP!* Even at 6:00, Friedman *STILL* wants to talk to Lisandro about it.
I seen this Pralad guy play at live at the bike. Kinda trash now.
So that gives Lisandro the right to physically threaten another player?
@@nickraad77
When you're talking about that kind of money, yes. (Prize money, not chip money.)
@@xenaguy01 why tho? There’s other avenues to go through, I mean there’s cameras, the tournament officials, like why would it be okay to do that when there are so many other ways to handle that?
@@nickraad77
He went through the established procedures. The floor mgr was called, gave a ruling, and Friedman ignored that ruling. Lisandro had every right to tell him to shut his mouth or have it shut for him.
Friedman is wrong at so many levels even if he's right.
- You never disrupt a hand
- You report to the floorman
Prahlad disrupted the hand and should have reported to the floor man in private. Disagree with your point here
@@geoffnolan1053 I think you can first ask a player if he / she post ante. If there stil are doubt you should ask the floormananger for a rulling. Never ever should you falsely acuse any player off stealing. This is WAY over the line.
@@dopewarszh6429 he knew that. This had nothing to do with the ante. He was needling the guy to try to tilt him and it was obviously working. This is very much a standard part of some people's game. If Lesandro had calmly ignored him Prahlad would've given up quickly. This is what little kids do in the back seat to try to get each other in trouble. If you play a lot you barely notice it after a while and they find other targets.
No doubt. If this was some regular game somewhere. Lisandro would have mopped the floor with Freidman's head and Freidman would have deserved it.
Of course you disrupt a hand if you think cheating just took place. The most wrong thing in this video, and it's not even close, is threatening serious physical violence because your feelings were hurt.
Poker was different then. The personalities from the players and the commentary from Lon and Norman’s jokes made poker so much fun to watch. Now it’s just different
Everything is a solver now.
And it's another different way of being enjoyable and fun.
@@thesorrow88 What is GTO?
@@aspiknf Game Theory Optimal
@@mdwivedi Thank you :-)
Lisandro "I'll take your head off"
Other guy " you hear what he said? He said he'll kick my teeth out"
You missed the part just prior to that when Lisandro first approached the Friedman and the floorman when he said something like "If you keep (something inaudible) buddy (more inaudible) Right? I'll take your teeth out!"
@@IAmPez it was just funny because the last thing he said was I'll take your head off more fucked up then kicking teeth in
So the asshole is blind and deaf 😆
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This commentary crew is unbeatable.
Diversity will destroy it soon enough mate 👍
@@xxcxxJAYxxcxx Gabe is better. AJ adds nothing
Norman Chad is a putz.
Nobody can top Gabe kaplan
nobody will ever be as good as Lon and Norm.. Gabe and AJ were great but it didn't feel as natural.. Lon and Chad were flawless
Saying that you saw someone rob someone and that you don't trust them, that was the beginning of the entire conflict. Then he just kept repeating it and egging him on. He got the response he deserved.
The real jerk here is the player between them that didnt throw the ante and just let pralad accuse lisandro
@Yes Man I agree 100% all he had to do was say I forgot
He probably didn't realize he forgot, it's an easy mistake.
It's a very easy mistake to make. Ultimately it's the dealers responsibility. If they can't determine who hasn't put their ante in the middle then they have no option other than to short change the winner of the pot.
also, its potentially his slick move he does every now and then. doesn't want to own up to it, and he's sweating that it'll be picked up
@@dezignateddriva good point. if he intervenes and it was intentional, he could get DQd, maybe banned
I remember watching this when it was aired. This was a great time for poker. Plenty of all nighters playing tournaments with friends
Exactly! And I am from South America. This era was broadcasted everywhere!
The peak of the wsop was 2004-2006 imo
"I'm not your buddy, guy!!"
"I'm not your guy, buddy!!"
...
Prahlad is like that annoying bully kid on the playground who just can't keep his mouth shut, isn't smart enough to realize he needs to let it go, and then plays the victim when he gets called out for his behavior.
typical leftist
@@saltydog9321 Nah, typical rightie behavior- no consequences ebcourages dipshits to act out. No punishment for being an open racist? Time to hate on some additional minority groups. Or, losing the popular vote for president two years in a row? Better throw a hissy fit and have a giant recount that proves that you lost. No consequences? Then let’s have an insurrection with minimal consequences. Cowards and traitors.
@@gazorpazorp9798 Lol, the guy is flaming lefty worm. Like yourself, clearly. He offered poker lessons to anybody but white and asian people. You are the real racists and you prove it time and again.
@@gazorpazorp9798 it's kinda impressive just how often you guys get everything completely wrong. Even something like this, you get it totally backwards. The guy is a known flaming leftist, and you get it exactly wrong. Lol. I'm just glad i won't have to live in the cities with you after you finish destroying them. Destroyed the universities, destroy everything you touch
@@saltydog9321 You rightie npc’s keep spouting off the same script for 30 years. Yeah the cities are just devastated 🙄. The left is full of racists. 🤣. Up is down left is right. You guys are so easily fooled. No wonder the republicans manipulate you so easily. Remember you guys keep losing the popular vote for a reason. LoL
Friedman could easily have gone about this by just asking something vague like, “Is there an ante missing?” He could have requested a check without accusing anyone specific. Counting the pot before it was scooped would’ve shown the missing ante. Even though an ante was actually missing, if you’re not 100% you can’t accuse someone specifically or go at it so aggressively.
"forgetting" to ante is my go-to move when my stack gets light.
Can't stop chuckling at this one :D
Prahlad Friedman trying to stand up for something which he's not sure of. Weird Guy
stupid guy
This shit is so cringe I can't even watch it.
@@southernbreeze3278 i mean he was right he just had the wrong guy
@@nathanb1886 NO he was not right, the footage showed that the guy put out his small blinds but forgot his ante
Typical liberal 🙄
Friedman had to accuse the dealer and not Lisandro. Its the dealers job to count the chips.
Everything Jeff did was in the right. Even the outburst was controlled but firm. It was not a one off, that guy kept at it and at a game without cameras and security would have gotten beaten
100% agree!!! And the way Friedman cried to the organizers about did you hear what he said to me. It was so pathetic. You can’t make an accusation like that then get offended when the man stands his ground
The good days of poker
Yea when most players were bad. Now there’s a lot of good players
I just love these commentators ❤️
I just can't believe how badly the Floorman let this escalate. Should have made a definitive ruling on this matter way sooner.
it was entertaining to watch so zip it
@@gli5580 Let me give you a hand for that.🖕🏼... here are the four I owe you.🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
"please don't threaten me in front of everybody! did you hear what he said he said he'll knock my teeth out!"
Mate, you have to laugh at that
Real mafia vibes with that threat. Teeth removal and decapitation.
"These things tend to fester like a cold sore" hahaha legendary commentary.
Thanks for showing the rest of the context/tourney
Prahlad was hiding behind that pit boss like he was really about to get that work lol
He's a coward...I would of knocked his teeth out
After watching this countless times over the years , I feel , Lisandro was within his rights .
He may have overreacted but that was the way things were done as he grew up and Mama´s boy would just not shut up
I was thinking the same. 150 years ago it would have been guns drawn and fired
Imagine what would of come of this if Friedman had said that to someone like Phil Hellmuth, Tony G., Mike Matusow, heaven forbid Doyle Brunson. Friedman wasn’t wrong in questioning Lissandro if he thought that he didn’t ante he was wrong in directly accusing Lissandro multiple times and not dealing directly right away with officials. It’s only when Lissandro after even politely telling him not to accuse him of robbing the pot again that when he finally told the kid he’d kick the shit out of him that Friedman panicked like a bitch. Guaranteed Lissandro would have taken this kid outside after day was done if he hadn’t stopped & kid knew it.
The real question is who robbed Lisandro of his eyebrows??
He was right tho, there WAS a missing chip, and it wasn’t infront of Lisandro.
@@Moonwired Not exactly , the film will show him placing the bet .
I had some nice conversation @Aussie Millions with Jeff Lisandro.He‘s a nice kind man!
This incident may be the reasoning behind the WSOP changing the format. Now, instead of each player posting an ante, they now have a big blind ante. The person in the big blind now posts the table ante.
I believe it was just popularity and effenciency of the BB Ante, but I could also see this really reinforcing the push for BBA. I never liked regular antes: consolidated antes are SO much better, saves time and headaches.
@@DonkeyAndy big bling ante makes the game move faster. It’s more simple. Regular antes you can play like half the hands per hour compared to bb ante.
Save the drama foe yoo mamma.
Apart from the squabble, they played pretty much well.
I started laughing at 6:44 when lisandro brings it up again after he threatened friedman not to bring it up
#Metoo
You're just watching bits of the whole table tourney
You call someone a thief you better expect repercussions
I'm not even a pro poker player, but the reaction at 1:57 is a big enough tell for me that I'd probably believe Lisandro believes he threw his ante. Dude looks genuinely hurt.
Indeed if you ask someone you should trust the answer. Why else even ask. Becides you could see he honest response of Lisandro
@@dopewarszh6429 It's a poker game. He is trying to get into Lisandro's head
@@KaninTuzi I highly doubt anyone would cause such a scene just to try and get a sort of advantage over their opponent.
@@user-to8ki3dv6x Hang out with poker players more and you will become a lot more cynical
@@KaninTuzi Og
If this wasn't WSOP, wrongfully accusing someone else of cheating in a card game would very likely result in violence.
100%. I'm nowhere near a tough guy or a fighter, but this is an automatic throw down
lol welcome to Commerce Casino in LA
Time to be civilized, folks.
@@christophersuswal9544 LOL, you'd throw down yourself in tears!
@@moshesheckel7369 what are you talking about? You mean if I was accused of not throwing in an ante when I did.... I'd cry? You're not very intelligent are you?
2006 is ancient history in WSOP but certainly entertaining sequence
This was 10-11 years ago. And Lisandro is an Aussie living in Italy.
no he is not
Dude needs to let it go before he gets his ass kicked. Lisandro has been a gentlemen long enough.
"i will knock your head off" is a common gentleman phrase... fair enough
@@itscoldbro5098 I'll knock you head off for saying Lisandro couldnt knock his head off, because he's such a gentleman ! :D
no wonder dustin holmes didn't say much or looked uninterested. he knew he didn't put the 5k chip
Lisandro "do I look like the type of clown not to put my ante?
Friedman "maybe?"
Holmes: shifts in chair uncomfortably
He was the culprit? Man, what a scummy face, looks like he would do that.
Friedman was outta line no matter right or wrong . And indeed in the end he was totally wrong and should’ve faced a penalty for being totally classless . And Dustin was a prick not speaking up honestly to admit he missed paying the ante .
It is for a first time I am watching Texas Hold'Em poker played with antes... Every time before I have always watched and played Texas Hold'Em poker with the blinds.
@@danender5555 some tournaments an ante will be used to speed up the action. they still have blinds too
Classless and shld of been penalized after they checked the play back
So you condoning stealing no matter what, you must be Caucasian
@@Jamal-sr9nnWeird, because y’all usually the ones who steal. 😂
Mom can we have Tony soprano ? “ we have Tony soprano at home “
nostalgic poker at it's finest.. Lon Mchearen and Norman Chad are the goats of this format
Sometimes in Poker it is good to get the person upset because they give their hands away. If they get a good hand it is easy to tell.
That's why he did it.
Put him on tilt....Machiavellian.
Do you guys even play poker..? These comments are so funny. 😄
The funny part is Friedman acting like a badass poker player, when at first run to the flood manager
The starting repeating “i dont trust you” was pretty harsh to begin with
To be quite honest, this is why I quit playing. It started to become a regular occurrence where a player at the table worked any angle just to upset another player. In the old days, they didn't put up with it. If you accused someone of stealing or cheating.....that's a problem right there man. That'd be considered the first swing.
Why not rewind the tape and make it right and let's not act like cheating and poker or a poker player cheating is far fetched.
What exactly did buddy accuse him of doing. I’m not too familiar with poker
@@Nall412 Not paying aka cheating.
@@dmac7403 oh he didn’t throw in his chips or sumthen
Or he thought he didn’t see him throw them in?
This is true. We live in a world where bitc3hes and cons can do slimy things without fear of retribution so they play it up. In the 80s Vegas dude could have decked him and casino would have booted other guy out
Friedman would be totally squished by him lol
"Jeff, can i ask you a question?" LOL
Prahlad does not know how to read the room.
Where is the rest of the video plz?
I remember Lisandro winning like 5 bracelets in 1 year @ WSOP around 2009 or something
It was 3. No one's won more than 3.
@@Dancindazed yeah I think 3 is the record, the Grinder won 3 too when he won the player of the year
Yep, WSOP player of the year as I remember.
Pretty sure Ivey won three in one year too
Yeah I won 4 in 2023 you just haven’t seen it yet, my time machine told me.. but I die right after otw home calling my mom excited to tell my family and swerve off the road because their was a woodpecker in the road and I drown in one inch of damp grass because the car flipped over on me.. they gave the wings to my ex girlfriend whom I was about to break up with the next day because I caught her cheating with one of the well know pros in his hotel sweet… so I haunted her beyond the grave and eventually after years of me doing that she committed her self in a psych ward where she has been since then.
“Erik Molina looks reasonable over there, what a twisted world”
I vividly remember him and Jamie Gold being the biggest douches in that main event. It wasn't my favorite Main Event to watch, never seen someone get the run of cards Gold got.
How did you get this clip? I’ve looked everywhere for it.
See the title 'Cocky American'
Me: "Well that could be any of us!"
11:11 …that was insane.
I almost feel like that was planned to upset him. One of the best players at the table to become tilted. He knows better than to make such an accusation while hands are in play.
💯
Definitely, it worked too, he took him down with 9 duece unsuited after the flop.
They had to give sanctions for 1 year for accusing someone unjustly
To see Friedman hiding behind the Floorman like a scaredy cat was fun to watch !!! He should get a penalty, banned for 3 Rounds or so from the table as it was clear that lisandro puts his ante in.
The funny thing about this whole thing, is that the kid that was supposed to throw it in, knew he didn’t. If he just said something, this would never have happened.
BB ante solves this nicely, and speeds up collecting it.
Friedman didn't give a shit about a 5K chip. He was angling to tilt out the other guy
I’m a dealer and well done to the dealer for doing her best to stop this BS. Many dealers these days don’t try to stop stupid arguments. I’m on side of Lisandro on this but what a stupid argument.
Like Doyle says, he'd never made it out of the parking lot 50 years ago.
Haha met Lisandro playing limit poker in Prague
Cool dude
Lisandro gets props for untilting and holding his sh together
All Holmes had to say to clear it up was he put his blind in but forgot the ante. Perhaps he was enjoying the drama
Best decade of poker
2006 was the best main event!
So funny how for ten minutes he messed with him. Then was like I didn’t do anything lol
This is why when I play with friends, we make sure that chips stay in front of the person until everyone's happy and the round is over.
high voice "what'd i'd do!?" lol
If Lon says it's getting out of control, you best believe it.
They should install a soundproof "Squabble Booth" next to each table. Send both squabbling players in there to punch each other's faces in, then come back and play like grown-ups.
@@TonyEnglandUK this will never get implemented but it’s a phenomenal idea, especially given how nonconfrontational a lot of today’s players are
Plot twist: Friedman didn’t put his ante in
Calling a man a THIEF is a Killing matter where Integriity Matters.
Friedman should have been assessed a penalty,forced to apologize or told to leave the table.
"He's out of line threatening Prahlad"
WTF man? You call somebody a thief without proper proof and you expect him to remain cool?
Yes
Yes
I agree with anibaldk
@Real Talk Bullshit
@Real Talk he’s a lib. Don’t mind him. Mean words are violence to him
Sitting around a poker table at a tournament is amazing. You meet all sorts of characters. A great experience.
Hello is thier a promo for first time sign up members?.
He said he'll knock my teeth out😭😭
That league of legend dude literally flaming an Italian mafia boss.
Dude I lost all the respect for this Friedman guy when he faked called during 1minute clock countdown and survived main event just because tournament director didn't hear him say call. That was dirty.
I’m surprised that he has any moral credibility after that + this incident.
It’s pretty obvious what his plan was in that spot. It was to call right as the countdown ended so that if he was right, he could appeal. The risk of having your hand called dead and not winning chips isn’t as bad as calling incorrectly and being out. Like he called, but after the countdown so he could quietly muck and say “well the tourney director has made his ruling!”. He even has social justice posturing. I don’t know how he can have friends in the poker world, if he does at all.
Do you have a link? Video title?
@@DoctorChained You should find it pretty easily.
@@CAPTEINRIGGS I mean that's not his fault. He wasn't playing dirty at all. He said call but the floor ruled it a dead hand.
@@DoctorChained What ever you say, dude..
Friedman still didn't apologize after . Instead saying he wasn't a 100percent. Douche falsely accusing someone of intentionally missing a small ante chip. He didn't say he accidentally forgot to ante, but he was a robber. Him hiding behind the floor man tells you all you need to know.
Asking for them to check the tapes is appropriate but Prahlad is trying to tilt Friedman and it worked.
Is a Lisandro vs Tony G heads up possible ?
Lisandro doesn't normally talk. Is this the only time you've seen him play? He's quiet at the table
This younger generation has no problem calling someone a thief without evidence.
We can only answer one thing to people like you : Ok boomer.
This is from 2006. So the young generation pictured here definitely is not the the young generation you're referencing and you're just using a clip to bash on a whole generation. Such a whiner move
@@redshiiks ok zoomer
He doesn't think he's a thief! He thinks he's a guy he can upset. And he was right. This wasn't about the chip. It was about trying to tilt Lisandro, get him off his game, and maybe kicked out. He almost succeeded.
@@commenter6722 In the old days he would been beating for this , a shame he didnt get knocked out. I mean if u think its fine to call someone a cheat for upsetting, then im fine with that person getting his teeth knocked out. Maybe he wont be a little wiesel next time :D
@@kristoffernilsson6043 he doesn't actually think the guy's a thief. He just wants to get under his skin. If the guy punches him he's out of the tournament. The reason he did this is to make the guy play badly. And the guy reacted perfectly. And I don't think it's ok. I think it's awful. Prahlad should be kicked out of the tournament for behaving like this. He's despicable. What gave you the idea I think it's ok?
6:20 the ante
5:21 Talking about ante but nobody is calling string bet?
About when did this occur btw date-wise?
PLEASE Rystadt - Keranen comp too!!!!
They will probably not do it, because Kyle Keranen sadly passed away last year.
Wow I didn’t know that. Do you know what happened?
@@ReturnWinnerYGO Oh wow that really sucks... he seemed like such a nice guy
@@ReturnWinnerYGO then they could do it as a tribute?
The management should have immediatley had a replay like most casinos when theres a dispute at a card table eg blackjak, Dustin should have been booted and chips forfeited, Friedman should have been told to unreservedly appologise and shut up or get booted Lisandro should have been told you were right but there will be fighting or you will go as well Strong management leads to a better game
And thus the idea of the big blind ante was born.
Like the commentator said, that Molina guy is a trouble maker as part of his game too
Some people just need to have their teeth knocked out.
He's not wrong there 🤷♂️
Alessandro cannot be blamed for getting mad and being accused of such a thing.. , Prahlad was totally out of line
hahahah "he begins to fester like a cold sore!" hahaha
This is partially on the guy who didn’t put his ante in. He should have said he made the mistake and could have defused it but he was a mute the whole time while this got out of hand
So many great quotes.
"I don't trust you, sir."
"I'll take yer head off...boddy!"
"Ah ya gonna stope?! Ah ya gonna stope?!"
"Please don't threaten me in front of everyone."
🤣🤣🤣