The Battle of Quadrant 14

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • The Battle of Quadrant 14 from B5's The Coming of Shadows (episode 9, season 2). Please note this is all the relevant CGI extracted in order from the episode.
    I recently started re-watching (yet again) my Babylon 5 DVD box set collection. Figured I'd do a favour to all my subscribers that did so because of the B5 content I uploaded in the past.
    Although it's entertainment, we can also consider it educational for anyone studying CGI of the mid 90's.
    This is a non-monetized channel.
  • Krátké a kreslené filmy

Komentáře • 179

  • @godsakes
    @godsakes Před 2 lety +86

    No other sci-fi race captured that sence of Lovecraftian horror like the Shadows did. B5 was a masterpiece

    • @crylittlesister6377
      @crylittlesister6377 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The Reapers from Mass Effect were another race that did it well

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile Před 2 lety +79

    0:58 I like how the Shadows, in spite of their vast firepower, still have the presence of mind to use tactics. Keep one of their ships in reserve to use for an ambush. A powerful enemy is bad enough, here you got a powerful smart enemy.

  • @jchea1764
    @jchea1764 Před 2 lety +104

    That's no battle...
    That's a massacre

  • @ethenallen1388
    @ethenallen1388 Před 2 lety +37

    Two years later Londo Mollari returned to his homeworld and discover, to his horror, that his people were trembling in terror of the childish maniac that this attack had put on the throne.

    • @MROJPC
      @MROJPC Před rokem +1

      Good point and a salient one for our times and for all times. People that consciously trade their freedom and agency to a a leadership promising security and strength end up giving everything away for nothing. They lose their freedom and their security.

    • @ethenallen1388
      @ethenallen1388 Před rokem +5

      @@MROJPC Actually, I was thinking about how Londo thought that starting a war with the Narn would help his people to stand proud again. Instead, he ended up doing almost as much harm to his own people as the Narn.

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Před 2 měsíci

      @@ethenallen1388 Oooh, he ended up doing MUCH more damage to them than the Narn ever could have done. The Narn only freed themselves and fought some small skirmishes. Londo narrowly avoided the entire destruction of his homeplanet, then ended up being a slave to Shadow allies and ruling his much-reduced people as a satrap, basically.

  • @elfhighmage8240
    @elfhighmage8240 Před 2 lety +17

    Narns: "We'd like to Buy a Break for 200 please?"
    Michael Straczynsky (creator of B5): "NO!"

  • @thegreenmanofnorwich
    @thegreenmanofnorwich Před 2 lety +16

    I like how, even when you can see a shadow ship in full, the black, shimmery, changing surface still makes it hard to be really sure quite what you're seeing

  • @rpersen
    @rpersen Před 2 lety +58

    I always felt sorry for the Narn, the punching bag of the galaxy.

    • @ochykysh
      @ochykysh Před 2 lety +12

      Don't be, they handed out punches as well. Before Londo contracted the Shadows, the Narn were doing the same to Centauri...

    • @jarradscarborough7915
      @jarradscarborough7915 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ochykysh the Narn doing the same to Centauri was why they embraced the Shadows

    • @Thereisalwaysmore
      @Thereisalwaysmore Před 2 lety +5

      @@ochykysh Well the difference between the NARN and the Shadows. Is that the shadows completely annihilated the NARN. There was no chance of success or at least life, it was one shot one kill. The Shadows guaranteed Extinction of an entire species. I think the NARN would have preferred to be conquerors not murderers.

    • @ochykysh
      @ochykysh Před 2 lety +1

      @@Thereisalwaysmore I think you misunderstood my comment about the Narn. I was referring to Narn VS Centauri

    • @fyreborneblu6706
      @fyreborneblu6706 Před 2 lety +2

      Both equal sides of the same coin... If it didn't happen with the former it will happen with the latter... Both deserved what they got and in the end had to settle for what little chance of change that was given to them... So they can build a better future one that hasn't been achieved when they were at the height of their power

  • @hughsmith7504
    @hughsmith7504 Před rokem +9

    I like how when they go to leave, the ships each take another shot at the station. At first I thought it was to ensure no survivors/recordings, but the more I look, I believe they where trying to mask that the damage was to precise. That last one just ran it's beam up the edge of the debris.

  • @mishalchotai4721
    @mishalchotai4721 Před 2 lety +30

    Ahead of its time ... Great story and space scenes

  • @dirdib69
    @dirdib69 Před 2 lety +7

    "As easy as killing younglings with a lightsaber." -Anakin S

  • @dirdib69
    @dirdib69 Před 2 lety +9

    I'd read a description of this episode saying that the colony fire visible at 1:30 is actually lava - the three Shadow beams converging for a second or two was enough to breach the crust of the planet.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 2 lety +2

      either that or the colony used geothermal power which becomes a problem with such attacks

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair Před 2 lety +1

      @@InfernosReaper I would say it's lava - the Shadows with some of the striked didn't even attacked the dome, but shot next to it - right into the ground.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 2 lety +3

      @@acmenipponair Domes do tend to have underground bits, possibly even geothermal power plants as well.

  • @Ma55ey
    @Ma55ey Před 2 lety +5

    i like how the shadows didn't call the colony just to give them a yo mama joke... remember when things were good?

  • @tuber00009
    @tuber00009 Před rokem +3

    B5 could tell a mundane alien story and make you feel really bad for them.

  • @SingletonD
    @SingletonD Před 2 lety +39

    Shadows vs. younger races is comically unfair without plot armor. Its like an elephant stepping on an ant.

  • @TheCormTube
    @TheCormTube Před 2 lety +14

    To be honest that Centauri fleet could have won the fight on it's own anyway, but would have taken longer.

    • @ethenallen1388
      @ethenallen1388 Před 2 lety +5

      The lacked the political will to attack an institution of that size. The battle group Reifa sent could handle the contingent sent to investigate, but not what the Shadows had destroyed.

    • @mikecimerian6913
      @mikecimerian6913 Před 2 lety +5

      The Narn were pushing hard and were quite motivated. The Centauri were rudderless. One had been preparing for the war during a generation while the other fell into complacency and decadence. My money would have been on the Narn.

    • @ryanarment5393
      @ryanarment5393 Před měsícem

      They couldn’t have before those reinforcements arrived. Then it would have been a slug fest. The centauri not only lacked the authorization to fight, but they had no real desire to fight either.

    • @TheBigExclusive
      @TheBigExclusive Před měsícem

      ​​@@mikecimerian6913 - The Narn sacrificed most of their economy to build ships and military. But other parts of their society suffered. Narn planets were suffering a famine and Narn people were starving.
      Ambassador Molari told Narn Ambassador G'kar to stop building so many ships, and to focus on feeding the Narn people. G'kar refused to listen.

  • @kevinoldman232
    @kevinoldman232 Před 2 lety +11

    The Reapers have come

    • @Gothic7876
      @Gothic7876 Před 2 lety +19

      The Reapers wish they were so powerful. Seriously. The Shadows would bitchslap The Reapers out of existence with ease.

    • @kurenwirsun2478
      @kurenwirsun2478 Před 2 lety +6

      Especially since the Shadows have planet killers and shit...

    • @JimmyCerra
      @JimmyCerra Před 2 lety +2

      Ah yes, “Reapers.” We have dismissed that claim.

  • @DamienSteiner-om4of
    @DamienSteiner-om4of Před 8 měsíci

    The expression of 'ripping you a new one" became actual here.

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 Před 2 lety +10

    Surprised the Shadows used so many cruiser and no fighters.

    • @nomi001
      @nomi001 Před 2 lety +11

      There was almost no chance that the Narn could take out or even knock off enough debris from a cruiser to maybe show the shadows were there. If they had used their fighters there's a chance that some of them could get destroyed or disabled and show a third party had been there.

    • @pyrolight7568
      @pyrolight7568 Před 2 lety +2

      Ya as nomi001 said, about the only time you see fighters is once they are out in the open and everyone knows about them.

    • @ycplum7062
      @ycplum7062 Před 2 lety

      @@nomi001
      The way the Shadow fighters are protrayed, I think one Shadow cruiser and a wing of Shadows fighters would make short work of the Narn cruisers, especially with surprise on their side.
      Since it was the Centauri that arrived, they would dispose of any "unusual" debris found, assuming the Narn got lucky.

  • @MarkRegets
    @MarkRegets Před 2 lety +13

    I am a huge Babylon 5 fan, but this just struck me: How can there be more than 4 quadrants? 🙃

    • @kurenwirsun2478
      @kurenwirsun2478 Před 2 lety +6

      90s sci-fi technobabble maybe? It could also be one of those generic names for that region of space. A sector divided into smaller quadrants where there's a quadrant 1 to 14 in that sector and each of those quadrants have 4 divisions???
      I'm guessing

    • @ilerien
      @ilerien Před 2 lety +8

      2d representation of a map
      # 1 2 3 4 5....
      1
      2
      3
      4
      ...
      1 4 would be column 1 line 4

    • @ilerien
      @ilerien Před 2 lety +1

      You can also give them names or numbers

    • @andrewthorne3570
      @andrewthorne3570 Před 2 lety +4

      Early Star Trek used quadrants for small areas as well. The four quadrant system was only established in TNG

    • @MrRinoHunter
      @MrRinoHunter Před 2 lety

      Hhahaa I see what you did

  • @stevehensonuk
    @stevehensonuk Před 2 měsíci

    And the award for the scariest ships in sci-fi goes to.....

  • @Zagoreni02A
    @Zagoreni02A Před 3 měsíci +1

    Centari used Shadows to do their dirty work for them and then they enter after everything is done.

    • @ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc
      @ANGRYWOLVERINE2060-ft2nc Před 2 měsíci

      Yes but if you recall the bad guy I forget his name approached the Narn ambassador first and was rebuffed/rejected. He then went to the Centauri ambassador Molinari I think his name was and they made a deal. It could have been the other way around and the shadows would have attacked the Centauri.

  • @agentk1205
    @agentk1205 Před 2 lety +2

    How it is in Stardrive against the remnant when you hit stardate 1300.0 and they bomb your good worlds with ancient fleet swatting away your frigates and starbase in 30 seconds.

  • @TwiceStruck
    @TwiceStruck Před 2 lety +1

    Man I can't wait to see the new look the Shadow battle crabs sport in the reboot and hope their screams remain just as Orgasmic.

  • @asvarien
    @asvarien Před 2 lety +1

    The funny thing about quadrants... there's usually only 4 of them.

    • @AKUJIVALDO
      @AKUJIVALDO Před 2 měsíci

      You meant they are four sided...

    • @asvarien
      @asvarien Před 2 měsíci

      @@AKUJIVALDO That would be a quadrangle, a quadrant is 1/4 of a circle.

  • @Ama-hi5kn
    @Ama-hi5kn Před 2 lety +2

    I call it the massacre of quadrant 14.

  • @SpacialKatana
    @SpacialKatana Před rokem

    Just about to remake this ;)

  • @Dr.W.Krueger
    @Dr.W.Krueger Před 2 měsíci

    The turkey shoot of Quadrant 14

  • @fadlya.rahman4113
    @fadlya.rahman4113 Před 2 lety +3

    The name Centauri Republic is a contrast to what Centauri really are, an Empire led by a monarchy. Should've call it Centauri Empire instead.

    • @BlackLiger788
      @BlackLiger788 Před 2 lety +7

      That is the whole point. A bit like napoleon's french republic

    • @dwaynec6951
      @dwaynec6951 Před 2 lety

      I was thinking more Roman Empire would a more appropriate comparison.

    • @WolfPeste
      @WolfPeste Před 2 lety +3

      A state calling itself "republic", while being ruled by de-facto monarch, who prefers a low-class fashion style and is insanely paranoid, aggressively reconquering the neighboring states which broke off when "republic" was established reminds me of early years of USSR. Even the quote about "waging war on twelve fronts" puts number of new "members" of Centauri Republic really close to USSR's 15.

  • @jediknight73
    @jediknight73 Před rokem

    I wonder if any UFO folklore inspired any of this

  • @prion42
    @prion42 Před 2 lety

    Thats rough buddy

  • @Headloser
    @Headloser Před 2 měsíci

    Those fighter pilots should have taken off rather than fix against the Shadows.

  • @IfbbProRolandcHazard
    @IfbbProRolandcHazard Před 2 měsíci

    A lot was cut out but I didn't like this scene. The Narn were once slaves to the Centauri, won their freedom established colonies, ships ect respected, then the Centauri hired the shadows to do their dirty work here so the Centauri could come and mop up to put them back into slavery again. Smh, jacked up.

  • @marekzilka9351
    @marekzilka9351 Před 2 lety

    Babylon 5 .... pls new .. 2022 / now 2021

  • @hlopezcr.1144
    @hlopezcr.1144 Před rokem

    Go Centauri Go 👍

  • @donaldmach7150
    @donaldmach7150 Před 2 lety +1

    How do you come up with 14 when a quadrant means a fourth of a given area? 🤔

  • @FreeThePorgs
    @FreeThePorgs Před rokem

    It it me or ironic the menacing scary ships fire pink laser????

  • @MattRumm
    @MattRumm Před 2 lety

    Erm… isn’t a quadrant, by definition, 1 part of 4? How can a quadrant be number 14? 😂😂

    • @FurdemonLar
      @FurdemonLar  Před 2 lety +4

      What that area of space is called in the show. Sorry, I'm not one of the writers of B5 and thus can't quite explain it. JMS has probably answered that question somewhere at some time.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 2 lety

      Because they ended up having more than 4 quadrants after a while, thus a quadrant is probably either a single square on a grid or 4 of them.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair Před 2 lety

      @@InfernosReaper Quadrant seems to be the translation of what the Narn named areas on their map, and for obvious reasons the Earth and others took this naming too. The earth forces have divided their parts into "Sectors". Perhabs the Narns had only a 2D map of their area and then put a raster onto it and it's not Quadrant 14, but Quadrant 1-4 (the 1 would show, that it's right at the edge of their territory)

  • @RealengoPrimordialDemon
    @RealengoPrimordialDemon Před 2 lety +2

    I liked B5 but all the battles, ships and space scenes look out of a Nintendo S game.

    • @SonnyBubba
      @SonnyBubba Před 2 lety +5

      That’s because they only had an Amiga computer to do the battle scenes with. The top end had 1/4 MB RAM.

    • @Stormz-JC
      @Stormz-JC Před 2 lety +1

      25 year old tv special effects will do that.

    • @valenrn8657
      @valenrn8657 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SonnyBubba That's False. Amiga 2000 can be expanded beyond 256 KB of RAM. Amiga 500 in 1989 has 1 MB of RAM.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair Před 2 lety +3

      @@SonnyBubba The best AMIGAs had in 1993 up to 4 MB of RAM and were compared to Macs (in black and white) and PCs (with Windows 3.0) much better equipped to handle graphical tasks. Although from the middle of Season 1 on they changed to a PC version of Autocad.
      But yes, the scenes were quite awful. But what could you expect from an area BEFORE you had dedicated GPUs with Polygon rendering? Star Trek in 1993 and even up till the 4th season of DS9 and Voyager mostly used models for that reason.
      But it's crazy when you think of the fact, that in the 1990s THIS was state of the art 3D graphics and nowadays even indie games can render such graphics with low end graphic chips :D

  • @razak4494
    @razak4494 Před 2 lety +36

    That was such a brilliant ploy by the Shadows. They have a talent for playing people against each other. Kinda like the democrat party. LoL...

    • @Stranglars1
      @Stranglars1 Před 2 lety +6

      According to who? Mainstream media? 😉

    • @razak4494
      @razak4494 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Stranglars1 According to my own two eyes. Dems tell vaccinated people to be afraid of unvaccinated people. Dems divide people by playing the racism card really hard. Vote democrat or the racist boogeyman is going to get you. Dems try to make people think there is a racist hiding behind every bush.

    • @nemo99nemo83
      @nemo99nemo83 Před 2 lety +14

      No wonder a republic rat is a friend of the shadows. Just like Clark you obviously like a fascist leadership.

    • @razak4494
      @razak4494 Před 2 lety +6

      @@nemo99nemo83 I don't subscribe to the Shadow ideology. I just acknowledge it. I am more of a Vorlon leaning ideology. I am more of a Minbari leaning ideology.

    • @Stranglars1
      @Stranglars1 Před 2 lety +17

      @@razak4494 The dems didn't try to storm the capitol... 😏

  • @viktorlitv2126
    @viktorlitv2126 Před 2 lety

    Babylon 5 was made in the days of Yugoslavian conflict... Those Shadow ships look a lot like the US stealth bombers... And G'Kar sounds like an anagram for (Radovan) Karadžić

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sure anagram is the right word. There's a lot of real world stuff that influence B5 and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a little bit of that.
      For example, in the first episode of season 1(not counting the pilot), that Centauri colonists monotonously reading a prepared statement to "legitimize" the actions of the captors is reminiscent of American POWs in Vietnam and Iraq