How French Health Care Compares To The US System
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2019
- France's health-care system, which is called "social security," has been globally recognized for overall quality. In a 2000 report, the World Health Organization ranked it the best national health-care system in the world.
As Democrats push a government-funded health care and President Donald Trump campaigns on repealing Obamacare without a clear alternative, Health care has become a major focus of the 2020 elections. Many Americans are considering what kind of health care system they may want.
“Medicare for All” has become a mantra among the left-of-center Democrats, with most of their plans calling for a universal single-payer health-care system, closely modeled after Canada’s health-care system. But there’s another national health-care system that’s worth paying attention to: France’s.
**CLARIFICATION** At 1:35 we make a comparison between the rate of rehospitalization between France and the United States. The difference is 5.3 percentage points lower, not 5.3% lower.
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Yeah, we pay a lot of taxes in France but...
1- you get sick, you get treated
2- you lose your job, you get paid for 2 years 80% of your income
3- you can't pay your rent, the government helps you
4- you have kids, the government gives you money to raise them and give you money once a year to buy your kids school material
5- you are intelligent, they pay for your studies
6- you are not intelligent, they pay you a specified "professional" school
Etc...
It's not perfect here of course, but the government gives most of the money collected in taxes back to their citizens.
I've lived in Greece, Portugal and Spain, and even though it's close to the French ideology in theory, it's far from it practice.
All of that to say that French are always complaining and don't realize how lucky they are to live in a country where they matter, unlike U.S. where money is worth more than a human life. Used to love the U.S. until I met my husband that was living there and told me the hell it was for "common" people. God bless France, really.
I think it's the other way around. We have those benefits because whenever the government tries to reduce French citizens' benefits, we complain and protest.
If we complain in France, it's clearly not about healthcare, we're complaining about our bad governement, its corrupt system, the inequalities between rich and poor ect..
Been living in France for 6 years now (Because of my studies) and I agree that the French don't see how lucky they are so they whine all the time. Like I hear a lot of them say "C'est de la merde ici j'ai envie de me casser" which is just unbelievable. Craziness. And then you habe Those who know their system's worth, but they get arrogant about it which is also a pain in the ass. Vive la France !
@@nathaliarz1762 as a french i must agree with you however you have to understand this rebel attitude is what is keeping us on top. There is a reason why we have the best healthcare in the world and the most studborn protester aswell lol
that being said i do hear people saying they want to go away, and i agree with you that they are delusional on that point, i am fortunate enough to have traveled in a lot of countries and from what i have seen, france is a much better country, we have great landscape, immensely rich culture, amazing architecture, good quality of life, unemployment checks, healthcare, familly care,free studies, an ok climate and the best and richest gastronomy if you count overseas territories too. That being said the heavy taxation makes opportunities a little more scarse so the perspective for people to progress in life is much lower. It's a small price for a big retribution when we look at it from a distance but day to day it can get on our nerves
@@nathaliarz1762 French people in a nutshell, we'll always find a way to complain. But I think the awareness of how good our system actually is grows bigger thanks to Internet. We get to compare whats done in other parts of the world
I'm french. I did a 10 month internship in the US. At the end of it, my host family asked me if I'd like to live in the US for good. I said no because I don't feel safe.
I wasn't talking about guns or racism but because of your health care. I cannot live in a place where I'm scared to be sick. In France, I can go to the doctor for a cold and it cost me nothing. In the US I had friends "one medical bill away" to homelessness. It's unbelievable! America is a great place to live if you're rich. I'm not.
I'm glad I was born in a socialist country. I go to college for free, to the doctor for free. I know It's not really free cause our taxes are paying for it. And I know my paychecks will be low compare to the salary I could get in the US doing the same job. But I'm paying for safety, and it's a great feeling.
Vive la France je dis
i’m Mexican American and i completely agree with you. like i am also afraid of going to the hospital for something major due to the cost of medicare here. i heard France is also a bit bad with the security and stuff; but for medicare it’s amazing! i want to maybe live in France for a little :)
@@shaleycarrasco402 France is safer than the US even about security. Terror attacks made a lot of bad advertising but even with it you have far less chances to die in France than in the US.
You're welcome here if you come one day :)
tu as trop raison, c'est vraiment là-bas que j'ai compris ce que c'était la vraie misère (vivre dans un faux paradis qui te consumeras sans hésitation) et ça se veut être superpuissance mondiale ? Au niveau Humain c'est une superpuissance pour sa destruction
France is not a socialist country. At least we have free market although taxation rate is around 60% of the GDP. So that's much harder to have successful businesses ... and new jobs.
Breaking Bad would have been a 2 episodes series in France
hilarious, merci
That's funny because it's so true
Breaking Bad would have been one episode if Walter had gone to HR and switched to the high deductible plan. "$5000 per year out of pocket max? We can afford that..."
harrison wintergreen says who? I can’t.
Omg. Underrated cmnt
Rule 35: If it exists, America will find a way to monetize it.
That doesn't make any sense, buddy.
@Dra O pay your air
Rule one, those with the gold make the rules. Rule two, survival of the fittest. Take Darwin out of science and put him in economics, social policy and international policy.
@@user-sf5iq2fl1l In India they have air cafes .Since the pollution is rampant
rule 34: 😉
French are considered to be citizen ( cheap education, universal healthcare and holidays ) . Americans are considered to be consumers !
You just told everything
Can't agree more
Mass consumerism, earn more and get fatter...
In French mainstrim medias, french citizens are considerated as consumers but in real life french people become more and more responsible in their daily lives.
But we feel we're treated as consummers. And there is problems with our health care system : labs abusing the fact pills are paid by the gov, lack of general practicionners, too long shifts in the emergency services due to the lack of money and the privatization of hospitals and the creation of a debt because social security costs more than the '' cotisation'' (money that is taken from your pay) . Maybe these are not a big deal in the us because you have bigger problems to solve but at our scale it makes french people think they have a bad situation.
Europeans and even Australians just look at the US health care "system" and think what a joke.
I think the same when I see their system.
And yet we seem to be the #1 destination. Everyone wants to come here. Funny how that works.
@@ChrisJones-fn6tw When you say "we", I'm assuming you France. They have 7 million more foreign visitors than the USA. And every time I visit the US, it's for the scenery not the health care system.
To clarify we look at the US as a joke in general.
@Don Coleman: Europeans, Australian, Canadians, NZ....watching the US healthcare system....
I am French , and disabled . Everything said about France is true . And yes , I am proud of being French when I watch that kind of video
Il faut le dire aux gilets jaune :)
@@totobello100 si seulement les gens savaient que la totalité des handicapés en France sont concernés par les questions soulevées par les Gilets jaunes . Si seulement les gens savaient que tant de gens ne peuvent pas manifester, n ont pas de voix pour parler pour eux car les handicapés sont pour la plupart en situation de précarité et de vulnérabilité . Minorité visible et pourtant aussi fragile que les vieux .
@@dorwoodfoundation8327 Ca c'est sur, je dis pas le contraire, il y a de la précarité chez certaine personne handicapé mais grace au systeme d'aide notamment la sécu vous etes quand meme couvert.
La pour le coup, au USA t'es a la rue...tout simplement.
@@totobello100 malheureusement oui
@@totobello100 pourquoi enfait ?
Pk ramener les gj dans le débat ?
I'm glad that everyone seems to agree that America's health care system sucks.
Education too.
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huh that doesn't stop so many people to immigrate here
@@bradley8575 because you can't cure stupidity!
except americans, lol
I am a French-Canadian, living in France for 17 years now, but not a French citizen. 2 months ago I was not feeling too well so I called SOS medecin to get a home visit from a doctor (yes, they do that.. called at 4am, got a doctor right away) The doctor came followed by an ambulance and a fire truck (firemen are also first responder here) ... 8 guys in my living room, they tought that I had an heart attack. Drove me to the hospital, spent 3 days in observation, went through a bunch of tests and machines... After I cleared everything I was sent back, false alarm. I never saw the bill.
Do I pay higher taxes than an American, sure. Will I have to sell my car the next time something happens to me ? no ... Now add up all your healthcare costs and let's compare with what I pay in taxes...
Firetruck are more like paramedic actually this type (sapeur pompiers) don't extguish fire actually or only locally if the victim is put in danger by flames
@@shaun0621 You are making a lot of assumption here. Canada also has universal healthcare and a general practicioner there make on average 230k. There is no reason to beleive that doctors in the US would take as a dramatic paycut has you are suggesting. Also, a primary care physicians is paid on average 330K in Arkansas and 192K in in District of Columbia... Why don't all doctors in the district of Columbia quit then ? Would it be because not everyone is in it for the money ...It feels as if you are trying to bend over backward to find reasons why it would NOT work. Something every other major nation was able to acheive, for a much lower cost then your system, is somehow impossible for you guys...
Famille Delisle c’est sur! Mais bon c’est plus simple de payer chaque mois et d’etre assuré.
Imagine, tu ne paierais rien par mois mais pour une appendicite on te demanderait 1500€ d’un coup
@@N1ko0L actually sapeur pompiers are both paramedic and firefighter . if there is a fire they go with a fire truck if there is a medical emergency they go with an ambulance.
@@laurecrp8751 Like said in the video, the appendicite operation is more like 30000$ in the US ! My father has had various illnesses, a couple of back operations, an open heart surgery, cataract surgery 20 years ago, another heart surgery, a lifelong battle with bipolar disorder, lots of time in hospitals and clinics, if he was a US citizen he would be millions in debt by now. Or more probably dead.
as a French I just want to correct:
- Poorer French pay less taxes than poorer Americans (by poorer I mean salaries < 2500$/month). Salaries < 930$/month don't even pay any taxes at all in France. It's only rich French who pay more taxes than rich Americans
- if you're poor healthcare is not 75%, it's all 100% free, poor people are granted the 100% "CMU".
- doctors salaries (having many in my family): they are often paid even less than 112000, it's often closer to 95000. French doctors are badly paid.
Beside those few points, everything else they said is true.
other important difference this video didn't talk about:
- in France it's illegal to refuse to cover someone because he has an expensive chronic illness. In fact if you have a chronic illness you even pay less (100% free).
- Social security also covers your paid sick leaves and paid maternity leaves. And abortion.
Lilou ou I kinda agree but paiement à l'acte ? Dépassement d'honoraires ? Conventionnement en secteur 2 ? There's a big gap between specialities (GPs and radiologists) and universitaires et libéraux. And interns are paid less than the minimum wage mdr big up à mes parents de qui je dépend encore
Let’s concretize this, there are no French or EU citizens with wages lower than 1500 euro per month in France, which is the minimum wage by law. People can earn less if they are on an internship or don’t work the full day, then through different schemes from government funding, like CAF, they can receive extra financial support from the state (but it’s a pain in the ass to apply, application can last for months and require extreme amount of documents and patience, as they deal with it mostly over post mail and can’t solve anything in one take). 9000 euro as a monthly salary I wouldn’t call poor, let’s just compare it to the average 2000 euro salary in France, but I’m not certain about such salary in France, I believe it would be closer to 3000-5000 euro range (a mid-manager level salary).
@@akonvano Like you said, everybody on part time earns less than 1500, and it's factually many people. Also as you can see in my answer, it ain't people earning less than 1500 who pay less taxes, but people earning less than 2500 which is a huge part of the population. As for financial support from the state, it's factually not how it works. Application is online, it lasts around 10 minutes and you receive the first payment between 1 or 2 month after the application (I know many people who have those). It's crazily easy to get them in France because, the verifications happen after the first payments. It's crazy because you just proved you have no idea how this works and yet you still talk about it...
@@ktr_9941 I agree doctors are badly paid compared to how many h worked + interns= slaves. Doctors' personal life is the only 1 disadvantaged by free healthcare. But yes, some manage to escape it and earn a bit more (radiologists...)
I am French, you say anything in France the doctors are very very well pay about 10000 euros
Hi. I'm American, and I lived in France for almost 10 year. I hear the Tax excuse all the time which is BS. When all was said and done. There was a 2 percent difference in the amount of taxes I paid in FR vs US. The problem isn't people paying taxes. The issue is how the government uses the funds. The US taxes goes primarily to defense, whereas in France they go towards schooling, healthcare, and infrastructure.
No system is perfect. But I've read that if we cut the defense budget by 5 percent we could have universal heath care and affordable higher education. So imagine what we could accomplish if we cut defense by even more.....
They will NEVER do that. It does not make money. It makes people healthy. Why would they provide cheap preventative care when they can run you into the ground by keep you drugged up for the rest of your life? This is the healthcare business of America.
Thank you finally someone said it. I always hear that as an excuse but at the end I pay more for less quality over here in US
@@TheRealVivia A patient cured is money lost......
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@@drinu5872 Oh yeah, I have been stabbed, lets eat grass !
Man video games were realistic all along...
In Europe we think that a government not providing health care is as crazy as a government not providing roads or running water. I'm a conservative European but I believe that the government should protect your health.
americans think anything that is logical/they cant make money of off is socialism
The government doesn't actually provide water everywhere in the U.S. we also have private water companies depending on where you live.
Guess what, France sold their roads a long time ago, and we're paying a private company to drive on roads we built and owned
@@arcamelon7126 What ? No we didn't. All highways and "routes nationales" belong to the state. It's just that 75% of highways are built and maintained under concession contracts by private companies, but they do not own the roads - we do.
@@frankemerson8584 If by " we own the roads ", you mean : we pay the roads and their maintenance, but a privita company takes all the benefits ", well indeed we own the roads.
We don't have a health care system, it's a health care business.
as if calling it a business makes it inherently bad? this is nonsensical. healthcare is made up professional providers that receive payments for services. of course its a business.
Omar Padilla It’s sick that people die because they lack healthcare due to high costs!
@@omarpadilla4739 but should we allow Profit over Healthcare? American health Insurance companies are some of the biggest scammers in the world. When you need a serious high-cost operation, they will find every loophole they can to deny you service. A dead man costs nothing to cover.
That might be why all countries in the world profit off of the innovations constantly being made under their competitive system! If they get a system like ours we will not see the progress we have seen in the past 50 years! Competition breeds innovation.
Do you like living longer and healthier?
@@MicahMicahel What? Medical innovations and Health INSURANCE are two completely different things. In fact, private health insurance companies always DISCOURAGE innovative medical procedures because they'll say it's untested and not reliable. But really, it's so they can meet their bottom line. That's what a FOR PROFIT insurance company does. Deny your claim.
So as a French med student I find this extremely interesting. Btw just to make you realize I only pay about 600$ for my studies per year while I heard studying medicine in America could easily reach hundreds of thousands dollars and even milions for the best specialities at the best universities. Not that I'm all about criticizing the US but you shouldn't give a chance to only Mr and Mrs Silverspoon
600$ ? in which year are you ? this year I only had to pay about 250€ for my university inscription, I'm in second year of medicine school in paris. does it changes in later years ?
@@philippine2240 It change depending on your "foyer fiscale" if you're poor enough it's free and you only pay insurance (which correspond to the 250€ you pay, but you should also have some scholarship who largely compensate that)
@@philippine2240
It depends on your "quotient familial" I'm pretty sure, not everyone pays the same price based on your income
Feel free to criticize the U.S. We are in aa crisis right now and a lot of Americans don't even know it.
How much someone pays directly is kind of irrelevant in this discussion. What matters is the total cost per person, irrespective whether people pay directly or via taxes. No university education costs $600 per year, so if that's what you pay, the rest is paid via taxes. Hence, the remark in the video that the French health care expenses are getting too high sounds odd after just having told the costs are half of that of the US health care.
The question of paying for things individually or via taxes is just a matter of what's more efficient and practical. For health care it's pretty much a no-brainer, since even if you opt for payment by individuals, the risks and amounts are so large that people have to get insurance anyway.
I left the U.S. in the 90's to live in Europe, best decision of my life. I feel sorry for most Americans how they live.
I like your reply. The world is more open and accessible than every before. A person can choose to move elsewhere if they don't like the pickings here. The man in the video stated that the French healthcare system gets it right, well then , get on over to France. Problem solved.
We don't miss you.
@@FFGG22E
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I feel sorry for us too
@@1lori_b
When you saw the video,
what gave you the biggest shock?
And Free Health Care is not in the Video, but is common throughout Europe.
Since I am Scandinavian, and used to all
of this so I would like to know how you as an American see this.
As a French citizen, I can’t imagine having to worry about the cost of my care over worrying about my actual condition. Everything is monetized, even illnesses will cost you. That’s just sad ;-;
As a developed world citizen, not just a French citizen. All developed and some non-developed countries have a universal healthcare system of some kind. It is just that the US is a third-world country in healthcare, education, and workers rights.
@@legaljusto5946 you’re totally right; the US fails in many aspects including healthcare :/ totally agree
Me too in Ontario Canada
I am an American who lived in France for 2018 and I can tell you Healthcare and Dental in France is INCREDIBLE vs the garbage we have in the USA.
Southern France 2018 prices in dollars : 1 Cavity fixed = $20. 1 doctors appointment = $12. most all prescription medications = $10 (And I had no insurance - nothing.) All the doctors and pharmacy were light years ahead of what we have in the USA in terms of quality, you can tell they want you to be healthy not buy drugs and stay in the hospital to profit.
David James as a dentist who have worked in st etienne with insurance patients, i can also guarantee that you pay what you get. Days FULL of patients with very few time for each treatment. It’s good for earning but the quality of the work in patient mouth is not that high... you cant do excellent job with short appointments. You just can’t. Not even pros need 15 min to do an extensive dental filling. dental works need to last years and years, these works done in these clinic wont last that much. The materials aren’t prime quality either.
@@AlbyTheMovieCreator What are you calling insurance patients? Dental care in France could be better, but never in the world, even with only basic SS coverage, a dentist would limit his patient time to 15 minutes if the procedure needs more. For me dental care in France faces two issues: Dentists can freely establish their own prices, and they're usually wayyyy over the official Social Security official prices, leading to situations where a procedure costs 10 times the official price. And second, the the Social Security price list does not include the latest procedures, they are lagging behind the latest medical progress in odontology and dental surgery. Social Security prices should be updates, procedures too, and we should not allow dentists (as well as optometricians/ophtalmologists) to practise "non conventionné" prices.
Comparing costs between countries is full of pitfalls. You can only compare economies on the amount of time you have to work in each of the countries to be compared to buy a product or service. In france, the average salary in 2017, the last year of data, was 20000€. The SMIC (minimum salary) is most of what the people earn. Macron has destroyed that income in the past year with higher taxes and controlling the climate payments. Macron has just added a 10% to all supermarché to allow the smaller shops to compete. The smaller shops will just raise the prices 10% to benefit.
What's the tax rate though? like 60% of your income?
None of those prices are correct as of today. Government controlled charge for a GP 25€. Specialist 50 to 80€ some much higher. Waiting times at AE 4 to 5 hrs. Waiting time for specialist prevention 6mths.
American and recently naturalized French citizen. Quite accurate, unfortunately/fortunately. Just today I had my free "examen de prévention en santé", which is basically the right of every citizen once every 5 years to get 3 hour comprehensive health checkup 100%% paid for: mental health consult, blood test, gynecology, dental, vision, xrays. If they find anything during this exam, all of that care if covered 100% as well. No need for the supplemental insurance that one usually pays at the doctor (which is still set at 23 euros and totally reimbursed if you have supplemental insurance). The French healthcare system isn't perfect but I could never go back now.
JB Jn welcome to France pal, hoping you the best for the future
Let’s be honest, 23 euro for a visit to a doctor in France is a rare thing, in fact a visit to doctor in Paris would cost you minimum 50-60 euro if you would need it urgently the next day and more probable that you won’t find any general practitioner with a window for tomorrow for less than 80-100 euro. If you would look for a 23-25 euro visit you might need to search outside of Paris, look for GP without experience or wait months until he will have a free window. And out of those 100 euro for visit you would only get reimbursed 80% of 23 euro from the state and extra 20% of 23 euro from the insurance company, so you would pay 77 euro of your own just for 1 visit.
@@akonvano lived in Paris (intramuros) 15y ; always found secteur 1 doctors less than 500 m from my home with appointments the next day... the ameli app can help you , just use the filters when looking for a doctor... you can even specify if you are looking for a male/female doctor or one taking carte vitale
Ewan West I am French and a classic visit to the doctor’s cost is 23€. 70% of that price is payed by our social security and the rest is covered (fully or partially) by the “mutuelle” (I don’t know the English equivalent for that). I don’t know where you’ve heard of such expensive doctors in France but you’ve been lied to.
Ewan West lmaoo you know nothing about the french system, we do not pay doctors based on their experience, I've lived in Paris my entire life, whenever I need to go to a doctor I contact them the night before and that usually does it, and it costs 23 euros only, idk where the hell you've got those numbers from lol even specialists don't charge 80 euros here
France has surely many problems but we are proud of our health care system.
Well if you are living in the US you got lots of problems too
It’s important to say that in France you only pay for small diseases. When you have to go to the hospital, you don’t pay for tests, food, treatments, but only for some extras (like a single room to be alone, and some other stuff like this), so when you have a big disease like cancer, you don’t have to sell you’re house for medical care.
if Breaking Bad was taking place in France it would be about Walter's life and family during his treatments instead of him turning into a drug overlord
*your house
@@TakahataStrify / In france it might be wether or not to go To Belgium or Switzerland to die in peace. Which no amount of money can buy you in France.
@@auntisthenes2754 he would be placed in palliative care if his pain is unbearable and his cancer untreatable. But we are debating about whether medical suicide is ethical or not. Or he would probably go to Belgium or Switzerland with the money he saved from not being sick in the US.
@@TakahataStrify I've seen people die painfully in France, the last of them (my grandfather) not so long ago and there is nothing to be done if you have a bad reaction to the appropriate medication and someone in your family is a tad too religious, you can't be helped. You get to die in pain. You're elligible for an induced coma, with paracetamol only. On and on. It's a bad way to go. Hollande had promised that the right to die with dignity would be debated, it never was, he used all his influence to get us homosexual marriages that can't get the happy married couple any child (once again , consult Belgians). Macron refused straight away. Same old, same old. You need money to buy a choice (elsewhere) because the powers that be don't dare go against their majority. On this point, we're probably worse than third world countries.
I'm french and I'm happier everyday to live in France.
Je l'étais aussi avant l'élection de Macron... Le pire n'est pas que sa politique économique est désastreuse mais qu'il va décourager la population de voter à gauche ou au centre et qu'on est sûr d'avoir le RN en tête aux prochaines présidentielles et législatives. C'est déjà le cas aux européennes.
@@k_meleon Arrête. Arrêtez tous de vous plaindre. Ce président est élu, faites avec. Sa présence ne change rien à la beauté et à la grandeur de notre pays.
ça dépend où tu vis. Tu ne dois pas vivre à la Courneuve ni à Sarcelles je suppose.
@Bahi Ahahah, c'est tout ce que tu as à dire ? Ou bien diras-tu encore que nous vivons en dictature et que je suis un mouton qui bouffe du BFM h24 ?
Non Macron ou pas je suis français c'est tout. Le président est élu je ne lui crache pas à la figure.
@Bahi Mais oui, vivre dans la cité des 4000 c'est la paradis. Ha ha... ça deviendra comme Détroit: nos émeutes de 2005 étaient un remake "soft" de celles de L.A en 92. Ils sont justes en avance sur nous. Les joies du multiculturalisme.
Small correction: replace every "french citizens" with "French residents". The Universal Healthcare system covers everyone residing in France.
Because it is financed by all those working in France.
Agreed France´s system is great. But please do not think this is unique to France. Every single developed nation and also some less developed provide a similar universal healthcare system. It is just the US which is "supposed to be 1st world" but its actually 3rd world like.
You can profit from the French healthcare system if you are a French citizen living abroad actually
The truth is the USA is a "third world country with a gucci belt "...there is vast materialism here but very little soul
As a French American, I'm forever grateful for my French healthcare. LOVE it.
French-American here too, great to have the best of both worlds.
In Europe health care is a right, in the U.S. it's a privilege.
Isn't supposed to be a right
Health should not be a business
You're right it should be a charity.
@@FFGG22E what about doctors. should they work for charity. who will pay for their debts (school house car kids)
@@edgarallanpoe9534 I disagree, capitalism isn't bad. The people can be the problem.
its not government run....they explicitly say so in the beginning of this video....
Health should be a right not privilege but definitely can be business depend on your illnesses.
The number 1 rule for our healthcare system is ... don’t get sick
Wow, what a great idea!
tell that to people who have cancer, and can't do nothing about it or people who have allergies I have to pay for an EpiPen(which aren't really cheap)
Clever! Not.
Unfortunately, that's true.
Use protection as well
THE FIRST QUESTION ASKED AT THE ENTRY OF A FRENCH HOSPITAL "WHAT IS YOUR SUFFERING" IN THE USA "YOUR CREDIT CARD"
Underated comment xD
A few years ago, I had severe depression, causing me to see a therapist for almost a year and when that failed, spent 2 months in a specialised unit in a hospital. Including my medication, this cost me around 200 euros. It's at times like these that I am happy to be French
When i was a kid, my family and I went to France (from the UK) and I developed a rash, we went to an English speaking doctor/GP (majority of doctors speak at least 2 Languages), showed our EU passports and waited for about 10/15 mins max, was told I got Impetigo and was given a prescription with creams etc and a receipt. All in all it cost around 50/60 Franc which was about £5/£10 ($7.64 USD).
Healthcare is a right, it’s not a privilege.
" Healthcare is a right, it's not a privilege " The majority of French people are educated to that, it is common sense ;) Hope Canada will get this system and maybe it will be the chance to the United States to adapt to it .
@@TheDarkAdn free market healthcare is the way to go
@@Theapplesarehere1776 it really isn't.
@@Theapplesarehere1776 free market is jungle law
@@TheDarkAdn As a Canadian, I would love to see some form of dental care and pharma care in my province of Manitoba. We have medical care but our government keeps cutting it back more and more.
I was in an accident in California. The ambulance trip to the hospital - under 2.5 miles/4 km - invoiced cost was the same as discount airfare r/t to Australia. The system is totally insane.
OMG 😱
"Nah ! leave me here ! I'll just crawl to the Hospital !" Is NOT something I should be making a joke about...
That's incredible
Its the same in France, butwe pay it with taxe. Do you think doctor get paid with nothing ? My god.
in contrast, i'm french, and i once had a skying accident, had to be helo'ed out to the emergency service and medical check up (i had nothing serious as it turned out, but i took a bad fall). i was 18 (which makes me an adult in France), no job, and was there with my family. we never paid a thing. in France, if you're wounded and need a ride to the hospital, we'll never bill you the travel, surgery or treatment afterwards or we'll re-emburse it without needing any input from you except having your "Carte Vitale" (it's a card with your social security information for them). as long it's prescribed by a doctor and vital to your health, it's re-embursed by our health care system.
I am French, and lived in Southern France for the first 18 years of my life.
When i was around 13, i was diagnosed with scoliosis (it's when your spine doesn't grow straight and kinda twist itself a little bit. I can hurt and look very bad because your back and shoulders are all over the place).
I saw a doctor, that told me i would have to do some physiotherapy to get my spine straight again. So, from then, for about two years, i've spent all of my wednesday afternoon in an hospital, slowly recovering. My mother never had to pay anything, because added to the social security that took care of 80% of the costs, we had a little complementary insurance that costed 30€ a month for the both of us.
Moreover, the hospital was about 15 kms away from where i lived, and there was no way my mom could get me there and wait for me for about two hours and then come back and get me.
The hospital had something for this, they were working with taxis. So i could choose one of them, and he would come every single wednesday get me, drag me to the hospital and then getting me back home, for two years. And guess what. The social security payed for it, and other then some cakes my mom baked for him from time to time to thank him, it didn't cost a penny.
Now my back is feeling much better. I can stand straight, and this is a huge bonus in self confidence. All of this because we didn't have to pay for anything and could take care of the problem as soon as possible. If i didn't do anything and kept on growing with such a twisted spine, the result today would've been terrible.
That's the benefit of health care for all: cheaper and better for all. Much more cost effective than the current American health care system, just designed to make corporations richer.
The French healthcare system is amazing.
That's why our politicians want to destroy it.
Maybe but it was started when it was cheap to do so and France is the size of Texas, not the size of American. If America would control it border and stop paying people not to work. Cut most of it free stuff programs it to could do health care for all but like all countries that have these free health care insurance programs once your let everyone in immigration policies cause your taxes to get so high you can live off what you make and they still can't pay for the same care you ate getting now. What than. We in America heard how great Canada health system is tile it short coming like long lines and wait month to year for thing in America we don't wait for at all. It was than the UK and two bead babies and no knee replacement for fat people and they move to the next country with a government paid health care system. So one come out of the woods to say how great it is. We would not need this if not for the government asking company to ship job over sea and that being super laxs on immigration. Destroy union with government limits of low wages and more unskilled works. Good bye insurance threw you job.
@@ericeyerman6285 France is the size of Texas but for the population you have to add California (2 most populated states in the US). In France health cares are also available for foreigners and it still work. If you cut everything from people in need yes first you will save money but if you stop helping people in need, rich people will be richer and poor people will be poorer. What you actually want for your country is that everyone has the minimum of services to start participating in the society without worring about their health or if they would be able to eat tomorrow or pay for their childrens education.
@@Tyboth35 Poor people in America have TV's and smartphone, better car that work class people. They get their housing for free most times. So your ideal of what would happen if you stop help those who can work. Well they might just start working for what they want.
@@ericeyerman6285 You can then pay them less but offer instead minimal services like health care or (good) education. Because these poor people then have children and the inequalities are replicated and nothing change.
Healthcare in America is business. This is very bad. In France healthcare is seen as basic and right for everybody.
@Gene in USA we are paying son much tax for everything else. Seeing a doctor and having access to healthcare shouldn't be that expensive. It is too much in USA. By the way I used to live in France Paris. I was making good money with less stress.
ha ha nope, it’s not a business. It’s a government subsidized and over-regulated nightmare of a system that adds complexity, hurts the independent providers, and drives up cost due to lack of transparency. As with most things in this country, it’s the government’s fault.
@Gene I live where ever I want. This my country and you have no right to ask me to leave.
@@fahad-m62 I think insurances play a huge role in the healthcare field. Everything in USA is business.
@@haha-cm6pg if you want healthcare then pay for it, doctors and administration doesn't work for free. you also don't understand that liability and litigation expense for hospitals and those who work for them is the main thing that increases the cost of healthcare, with government subsidies overall being the next big thing that increases healthcare costs like Obamacare and the ACA.
Everybody's gangsta till the trou de la secu has arrived
"till the trou de la secu" tu m'a terminé xD
On s'en fou c'est un trou noir ⚫
Actually the social security "hole" is kinda weird. I don't think it's caused by the insured. I live in Moselle, in the north east of France. Not gonna give you a history lesson to explain you why, but when France got Alsace-Moselle back from the Germans in 1918, they kept the German coverage instead of the French, so there, you are covered 90% instead of 70% in the rest of the country. And surprise surprise, you have more coverage and there's no social security hole! So, something's not managed properly in the rest of France obviously.
@@waitabitlonger obviously
The problem seems to be more on the way it's managed, than actually because they insured every citizens. Like, I thing we are loosing money everywhere, not only in le "trou de la secu"
Most of European countries work this way. Portugal, where i live is One of those countries and it's getting better everytime
@Jojew well let's be honest, countries like Spain, Italy, Portugal or even the UK have their problems and face lot of challenges BUT they work on the same principles as the French system. And if you compare those European Healthcare with all their difficulties to the US system, its really easy to chose which one is best.
@Jojew It is not, long life to the EU!
It's getting better in Portugal due to an IMF bailout after socialists destroyed the economy
@Jojew We are very negative about our country, but SNS is something we have to protect.
Almost every country is better than the USA.
Which spends money on creating war and hiring mercenaries and terrorists to create havoc and genocide in the world.
Little correction: the phrase “French citizens...” is a bit misleading, as there is no distinction between citizens and legal residents when it comes to health care (carte vitale, ...).
One little precision, Sécurité Sociale has 5 branches :
- Money collection and recovery
- Work (coverage in case of accident, sickness, unemployment, ...)
- Family (benefits for parents, ...)
- Retirement
- AND health (the Assurance Maladie)
Assurance Maladie would have been a better term
I remember meeting with an American guy when I was working abroad (am French btw). We bonded because both of us were using the same insulin. I really felt sorry for the guy when I had to disclose the French system was paying for all of it while he was obviously struggling as a student...
Their system reminds me of Jansenism. Be perfect and hope. (if you're not elected by God, you're screwed anyways, but be faithful)
Love France greet from Canada🇨🇦🇫🇷❤️
Love y'all as well :)
Love ! ❤️
Welfare state, health care -----> US perspective "cOmUnIsM hAHaH"
Welfare state, health care -----> EU perspective "this is totally normal"
Yeah. Poor americans, they got traumatised culturally by Communism.
@@SilverSF2 they seem to forget that they already have socialist services in their society that have been helping people for generations. I think people would be pretty upset if they got a massive unaffordable bill after the fire or police departments paid them a visit.
SilverSmasher so did we (the UK) and we got our nonsense together and toughened up
@@imanepink I guess you're right. But hey, British are smarter than Americans ?
SilverSmasher yep
Its sad when you see people vote against their best interests here in america.
@James Davis Hopefully you aint against abortion then.
Yes! A system designed to brain wash its citizens and keep them on the stupid bench.
@@valerierodger7700 Yes!
@James DavisI per capita healthcare spending in France $4600, in the US $9892. Shouldn't you be OK with people forcing you to pay half as much to cover everybody with a better healthcare System?
And we do it in every part of our lives, not just healthcare.
I'm a french citizen and we are very satisfied with Securité Sociale, we are proud of that ! Living in France is great !
Pierre Gottvalles you speak for all French? Very noble of you
Pierre Gottvalles a France person who speaks English! Impossible!
Marwan Amireh you ever been to France?
@@tonyss7142I'm also french an I can assure you that the majority of french people agree with this statement.
So the yellow vest protestors that consist of the majority of common working people that are barely able to put food on their table are going out to the streets to protest just for fun and games ? Living in france is not so great dont be naive
It will always be a mystery to me why the U.S. can't learn from other countries and absorb some of their successful models, systems, and policies.
I think many lobbies could lose a lot of money and they refuse that.
They want to control how people live. bruh
Our politicians created a problem and they aren’t willing to fix it
It is mainly because the us uses propaganda to tell you that you are in the best country in the world so why learn from others
@@johnfigeraldraptorjesus9714 they also say every policy from the rest of the world is communist ideology
@@bluruckuscrx8124 very true
I'm Canadian. In 2017 I got a benign bone tumour in my spine. I spent the night at the ER in a semi-private room and had a team of doctors and nurses taking care of me and trying to figure out what that small thing in my MRI scan was. I got 4 meals, a CT scan, pain meds, a diagnosis, and my information was sent to a doctor specializing in what I had, osteoid osteoma. I required a "simple" surgery which would leave no wounds or scars and if done properly, no side effects. Just a thin needle injecting some burning liquid stuff to burn up the benign tumour. My surgery wasn't even 45 minutes long but I had 5 medical professionals in that room. I woke up in the recovery room and while I have no memories of this, after 45 minutes of recovery during which I was monitored, I was wheeled into a semi-private room so I could be with my parents. After 3 hours the drugs wore completely off, the doctor came to visit me for a quick check up and Q & A, he wrote me a prescription for pain killers, and I was free to go. I walked out of the hospital being about $12 poorer than I was when I came in. Universal healthcare may have covered all the medicine/drugs I got in the hospital, but it doesn't cover medicine from a pharmacy. I love our healthcare in Canada and while it's not perfect, it is very good.
Not only all the citizens but also all the foreigners who legally reside in France can benefit from the health care system here. I am so glad I chose to come to France to go to graduate school and not the United States. Thank you France
No problem l'ami it's normal, i hope your stay in France will be great ;)
Stay there
Not only legally foreigners, but those who stay illegal also can apply for some special programs which can help them cover their healthcare. It kinda like a humanity point.
Ok, let’s clarify. Yes, foreign students or foreign residents (so such status is only granted to foreign legal workers, spouse of EU citizen, refugees, or students) can apply for the French health insurance. Applying is free (well, almost, if to exclude post mail expense around 10 euro). But, it’s not easy. I applied in early September and got my provisional insurance certificate in late November, and then final insurance in February. It took me 6 months to apply for insurance lasting 12 months. France is the most bureaucratic country in the world: I had to send 2 letters by post to remind them about my application, make several calls and send again a letter with application for the insurance card Carte Vitale (because surprisingly online application almost never works, website is down).
@@akonvano same here but any health care related payments you make will be reimbursed to you, you just have to keep the receipt.
French guy here, feels good to hear so much nice things about France in the comments.
Yes, you should be proud of the facilities provided in France. France is heaven compared to America especially in terms of healthcare.
C'est vrai que c'est bizarre que pour une fois personne nous crache dessus
@@mm-jm6em c’est vrai xD
Well... Yes, French health care works but costs money; American health care cost money... And yet does not exist.
Healthcare and education are the 2 main pillars of mutual aid at national level... And mutual aid is the very reason why societies exist at the first place. Forget about these 2 and you don't have a society; you only have people living at the same place under the same laws... That's completely different.
France is amazing
At losing money to other country by losing smart people. Yeah we are good at that, this video is propaganda nothing more.
Bahi errr there is a problem with educated young people leaving the country because they can earn so much more abroad. It’s a real issue ; it doesn’t have much to do with our health care system though.
@@LL-wj6yw It happen with every country. Many educated and young people also leave their country... to go in France
Yes it's true
The problem in France we speak that on the good side of France the health system already the health system it is for all member countries of the European Union
And we never talk about the cost of living that is in France with the demonstrations of yellow vestsIn France, we never talk about racism towards communities like the Maghreb or the sub-Saharan African And in France we never talk about racial discrimination against North Africans and sub-Saharan Africans
how is it possible that the US spends billions on war and their health care system is almost inexistent. Even countries in the developing world have universal care. They should learn from Costa Rica for example.
Sebastián Corvetti and Mexico, all our citizens have free basic healthcare here.
Because the American people vote, and at last check only 41% want single payer. So if they don't want it who are you to tell them anything?
KsEF5 41%
Because monetizing healthcare allows for economic growth and better service. The only people who complain about current healthcare are those who don't have insurance and just want to leech on taxpayer dollars. Or pretending to care to appear empathetic
@@treyalstedder2121 Man it's the third comment I see from you and it's all BS. Plz check your data
In France I pay 32$ a month for my corporate private insurance.
Believe me or not 32$ a month is view as very expensive insurance even if my coverage is at 100% on everything.
My highest bill was 9$ so I complain, then my isurrance seend me a 9$ check
That is why France has one of the highest debts in the world ($2.5 trillion). France's economy is teterring on collapse and people are rioting in the streets. BTW you should thank the USA since we subsidize the cost of your health care.
xxl96 USA doesn’t subsidize French healthcare...stop repeating this crap!
Income Tax in France in higher let’s say around 45% versus 🆚 the 🇺🇸 income tax 24-37%.
Now, if you’re in France paying 45% income tax you get the following: social security, the world’s highest rank healthcare for free, and very very cheap higher education. They also get excellent infrastructure.
In the US, for 24-37% we get....nothing essentially. Crumbling infrastructure, no health coverage, and expensive higher education.
I’m not arguing for the French healthcare style, but we have to burst our own bubble and admit that our approach sucks.
Sami B very cheap higher educations? Grandes ecoles are not really cheap and the fac is not that good ...
Satan The Savior les grandes écoles are very cheap by US prices. Compare the average cost of an MSc in the US costing 30-70K just in tuition. There is no comparison between the two.
@@xxl96 France's national debt to GDB ratio is lower than that of the USA.
Its economy is still growing and France's taxes provide for one of the best social security coverage including free healthcare and free education including higher education/university.
As for rioters in the street, France also has a very high number of trade unionists and communists who make up the bulk of the people who have been demonstrating against the present centrist government's reforms.
many people say that the French are still on strike or demonstrating.. you understand why we just want to preserve our social protection acquired by the fights of our ancestors
Eh regarde l'état du pays aujourd'hui...
@@Gnashercide Dans le sud la vie est belle
@@Misterjingle pour combien de temps encore ?
I had a crack in my tooth. I went to the dentist. He told me it wasn't a problem yet, but it was going to continue to hurt, it would get infected, and if I didn't get it taken care of, I would eventually need a root canal or an extraction. So I had it taken care of. I then got a bill in the mail from my insurance company for over $1,000. Turns out they didn't cover my procedure because it was considered "Preventative" had I wanted for my tooth to become infected and rot out, they would have covered it. Another time, I had to have a medical blood test. I called my insurance company to make sure the test was covered and I was told they wouldn't be able to tell me that until AFTER I had the procedure and the Dr billed them. So I had to wait weeks to find out if I was going to have to pay $2,000 or MORE for this test. And I have great health insurance, and am rather healthy. The US healthcare system is INSANE!
Paid holidays from work seem very rare in the usa as well,Dont understand how your citizans dont get looked after.We moan in the uk about our health system the NHS.But its a 100 times better than the rip of insurance and corporate approach the USA have!!!
Our healthcare system is stupid fast, to be fair. I've been in an office and out in 30 minutes (or less) for a checkup
also one of the best in the world while the US is third world
Same here in Norway. We complain a little here as well. Like where the public hospitals should be. But it is peanuts compared to what problems they have in the US.
Paid holidays were an extortion introduced by them socialist and communist labor goons who criminally colluded to violate the constitutional and civil rights of corporations. But let it be known, the tide turned with Reagan! Soon those last remnants of the imprints of that socialist and fellow traveler Roosevelt will be dismantled, the rights of property will be restored to Ante-Bellum status. And now with 24 hour AI assisted tracking too!, so that you know that your property is working for you every minute of their life. Ah Ayn Rand and Silicon Valley, Thank You.
@@lyntwo Dam right, bloody humans needing sleep and quality of life! Better off with out them.
Merci enfin une video qui dit la verité sur le system medical Français🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
We need to help each other regarding health care...America jut follow the lead because children are dying too🙏
lilli lilli Oui, tu as raison.
Baguette
Did he say $60,000 for an appendix job in the US?. remind me not to visit.
I'm a french healthcare worker and boy am I glad to have access to quality healthcare without having to fear huge medical bills whenever I go skiing in the Alps
de ouf, sinon être riche ou très chanceux à vouloir tenter des big air et surpasser nos limites d'adrénaline.
You won't get some people to understand any of this. They'll keep saying I don't want the government determining my healthcare while they let private for profit companies decide what doctors they can see based on what's best for their profits.
Some people see "taxes" and think it's absolute evil.
Meanwhile in the US, too many of them seems to think we pay too much taxes in Europe while their taxes is mainly used on MILITARY and they're not that low either.
@@ThoA45 Even the US tax money is going to Israel. Unlike USA, Israel has Universal Healthcare too.
@Europa H2O Alien and do you think health-related employees work for free in France? The taxes the citizens pay are used to pay all the systems : education, Healthcare, employees etc
@@ThoA45 And we already pay a lot of taxes, but people don't seem to care that much of it is wasted by the Spentagone.
@@nightsilvermoon6653 end you think that 2 million Americans soldiers work for free
The are also paid by taxpayers
I've been living in France for 2 years now. I was just hospitalized for 3 days due to an unexpected infection in my intestines and I must say it was a very unique experience. There were posters all over the hospital talking about strikes (sounds very french, I know), took me a loooong time to get into a treating room (around 7 hours, and I thought I had appendicitis.... so, yea), but once I did, there was a different doctor coming in every 5 minutes to check on me. There was a whole lot of blood and urine tests taken (too many for my own pleasure, but good for my safety) and in general I felt very protected, even if being a foreigner. Id like to share the numbers so that it makes sense: It was a public hospital, I stayed for 3 days, total bill was 2.100 euros and 80% was directly payed by the government using the Carte Vital explained in the video. The 20% left the insurance I get from work will pay, but if I didn't receive any, I would pay myself.
yeah public hospital are sometimes having urgency or they have to many people so it explain the wait
The fact is even if you re a civilian, you can go to a french military hospital and get treatment from the best doctors for free
I’m English and live in France, totally legal residency and 100% medical cover. CMU
Yes but not for long. CMU is only for cirizens of the Europeen Union isn't it?
I was born in the U.S. but I grew up in France. I'm glad because my whole childhood, teenage and adult life being sick I had access to CMU most of my life so I didn't pay my operations, doctors visit, & med.
I once broke my foot and I had to pay 70€ for a special footwear. Thanks to social security, I only payed 5€.
Before Obama care my father spent 13 weeks in the hospital, had 7 surgeries and spent months in therapy total cost to family $1000 out of pocket . Had great insurance through his job. $1000 for a catastrophic injury with a top 2 in the world spinal surgeon Dr. Errico that pioneered the very surgery that allowed my father to live. Insurance and deductible use to be cheap till Obama care
@@KsEF5 The difference: in Europe and other public health systems (almost) ALL people have a decent great insurance, even the poor and unemployed! So what is your point here?
Many treatments that work in the US are not covered by Insurance but every pill known to mankind is legal if prescribed by dr. They dont want you better
In the US, you are not so much sick as considered a lifetime customer of Pharm Cos.
It's not that they don't want you better, it's that they just don't care, as long as they can make money of you. In America, healthcare is just another business. It's not designed to keep you healthy. In fact, they hope that you die a quick death, so they keep everything that you paid them.
Europe best continent on earth! #ProudEuropean
Europe is not a continent. One of the parts of the world.
@@TrevorSineus Europe is a continent. And NO, Europe is not the best. Two major world wars in the last 100 years and countless other wars (Balkans) and nations breaking apart. Compare that to South America, North America, even Antarctica !!
@@johnmorrison9758 Eurasia is the largest single continent on Earth.
@@TrevorSineus There are 7 continents. Europe is one. I learned that in public school back in 1961. You need to google that I think.
@@johnmorrison9758 These are old hypotheses. According to them, North America and South America are one continent, and Eurasia and Africa are one continent.
Where is the "continental" border between Europe and Asia? The border between Europe and Asia is generally ephemeral and constantly moving. In the 18th century, the Europe-Asia border shifted through the efforts of court geographers. This movement continues.
I am so thankful to be French, always ready to fund and preserve our Sécu, its an heritage of our CNR (Resistance).
USA has health insurance, not health care.
Yes, we, French people do not pay a fortune for our healthcare; When we get Cancer, we're not obliged to sell our house. Think twice about your private insurance fees guys.
Even though we, french people are always angry for everything coming from the government. Our healthcare system is such a blessing. My dad had 3 cancer in his lifetime and never paid a single euros for his treatment, i can't imagine how we would have surpassed it if we would have to pay thousand of euros for saving his life. Life shouldn't have a price and even though it his something administratively heavy, every country should make the effort to try to give equal access to healthcare
My husband aged 85 , living in Wiltshire and his cousin aged 70 and living in Reno, Nevada had hip replacements in December. 2021.My husband was in a Private Hospital, paid for by the NHS , for 2 weeks , followed by 1 months ' daily visits by nurses from the Hospital , proper equipment for him to use until he was fully mobile again,weekly physiotherapy and exercises to do. By contrast Eric was in hospital for 3 days because he was having an operation because he had fallen.He was then put in a "Nursing home " with appalling food and no physiotherapy. This " care" was not covered by his medical Insurance and was very expensive . We sent him copies of Derek's exercise sheet to do , and thankfully he is now home , but is still not walking properly . Derek ,in England by contrast , is fully mobile. No doubt it would be the same in France.
A few inaccuracies :
- When you compare percentages, the difference must be expressed in points.
- The French system (bismarkian model) is not even government-funded (Britain's is, beveridgian model). It is employers and employees who have mandatory contributions.
- As for the GP approval to see a specialist, indeed it is not absolutely required, but you won't be reimbursed as much, so it is necessary in practice anyway.
How refreshing that doctors can practice medicine in contrast to the US where insurance companies practice medicine.
Not just France all of Europe.
@458u43 That's totally false, and I speak as a European. Yes, people want lower taxes, but none of the protester advocates for lower spending in welfare. Their talking about military, corruption and public inefficiency. Once you taste the security of social protection, you will never go back.
us in the UK seem to be courting the idea of joining the US in their for profit approach :(
I love the NHS, I'm going to miss it
A shame most of Europe is barely developed compared to the US.
@@coolguy02536 have you travelled around the US and Europe much?
@@coolguy02536 What? Haha, are you joking?
I am almost 74 and have lived and worked in Italy for over 30 years. Our health system is great. Everybody is covered because we all chip in, but pay far less than Americans do every year. I was in hospital twice last year for several days each time (once for a pacemaker and once for treatment of pneumonia) and there was no charge (I had a private room-no charge-and the food was great!!). I also go for a check-up twice a year and there is no charge.
Vive la France 🇫🇷🥖 almost 10 years living in here and I have a very deep respect for this country for using correctly our taxes and giving us what should have be an obligation to the rest of the world : education and healthcare.
Using correctly taxes ? France ???
3000 Euros a year? You can't get insurance in the US for that price.
Joseph1NJ in cali medi cal practically covers like 75 %
Yeah you can, when I worked at a company it was a 140 bucks a month.
@one love-one ark yeah I'm sure.
@@jonathanpalmer228 that's the premium. That's about $1700 a year. Then you have to meet your deductible first before your insurance even kicks in.
@one love-one ark 'murica.
france 1 emergency visit 500 euros (everything included)
america 1 aspirin given by nurse in hospital 2,500 dollars plus tax
UK 1 emergency visit 0 euros (everything included)
In Spain, I went to see a doctor and I didn't even have to schedule ahead. He told me what medicine to buy. He didn't write me a prescription. I just told the pharmacist what I want and she sold it to me. It was so simple. The medicine wasn't expensive, but I paid out of pocket. I was more than happy to do so, bc I had the money to spend.
500 euros ??? But that is a fortune by French hospital standards. What kind of emergency are we talking about ? Maybe if you have a broken limb or an operation but definitely not for needing an aspirin
@@odalisskI am french and I doubt that figures maybe if they have to operate or something but 70% of all cost is refunded anyway and if you have private insurance they will cover the other 30%
And yet, if you've "sécurité sociale" here in France, like 80% of citizens, you don't pay anything and all included
I've been hospitalized 3 times, didn't pay anything. The only thing I pay is the healthcare insurance each month which cost around 15€
I'm from Spain, and we have a very similar healthcare system to the french one. And I feel safe about my healthcare. The fact of being USA such a rich country and don't take care of their citizens is just unbelievable.
Maybe because they have no WW2 per se. We had ideas before, mutualists, anarchists, communists, socialists, after WWII it came real.
I think another important problem with America is that we don’t have restrictions on unhealthy foods, so people end up growing unhealthy and racking up medical debt. What we need to do is make sure unhealthy foods aren’t as cheap so people will be pressured to eat healthier. Cause I’m not planning on paying for some guy who eats potato chips and drinks beer when I’m trying to be healthy
I understand you, I would even agree with you if there was a way to make unhealthy food more taxed (in france, like a real restaurant, 20%, instead of 5,5% for junk food) but it's not and it would be the common people as always would be taxed more. We really have to change mentalities so that our kids don't have type 2 diabetes. I'm sorry, but not only is it your thing, it's also incredebly expensive for you...Why don't you come up with answers, we all stupidly follow. Slower, but we're getting sick.
Three precisions :
-It is called "Sécurité sociale" (social security) not because it's a socialized health insurance run by government but because it is NOT ONLY the health insurance. The Sécurité Sociale is composed by four branches : the health branch, the familiy branch (with the CAF, which gives bonuses for children or housing help), the old age branch and the collection branch (which collects the money for the three others). The whold thing being that the Sécurité Sociale covers you from your birth to your death.
-You forgot the most important thing for the history of its creation : it was pushed by communist workers (which managed to took a bit of power since they were in the resistance during the war) and this had a huge impact on how things work. This has changed a bit with time, but originally, the whole Social Security system was funded by the government but managed by workers unions and patrons unions. It was conceived on a simple principle : People pay according to their means and get covered according to their needs. I think it is quite important to remember that this is a socialist tool, and moreover, that it proved to work well. It's not good at making business and big money, but it's perfect to take care of people.
-Actually, most of its flaws come from the fact that the last governments took measures to "dismantle" progressively that social security. For example, since Nicolas Sarkozy (2007-2012), hospitals don't get a global budget to work, but instead get reimbursed for each act made in the hospital. This seems like it's a good idea, but little "normal" acts are cheaply reimbursed, when more "rare" acts are not. So, for a regular care, you tend to stay a lot less in the hospital than before, for example, because it "costs" to the hospital to keep you. There are also less and less employees in the hospitals, making their job quite difficult because of the lack of people.
You mean they care about babies when they’re outside the womb?
@@gnppr what a little ray of sunshine you are... Perhaps if we locked people like you up the world might just be a better place to live in.
@@gnppr abortions actually attributed to the drop in crime rates in the 90s-00s, it's better that unfit, poor, single, or drug addicted women are allowed to terminate, being put up for adoption isn't better, still mentally taxing on the children
Mark 12 mob rule mentality of the left is hilarious to witness. They should probably spend less time complaining and more time looking for someone to beat trump if democrats plan to ever be in the White House again
@@gnppr ah ah ah :D
@@Defy_Convention I agree
if you're going to get into debt you might as well do it to take care of your citizens rather than buy weapons to free the third world from bad tyrants.
This video does not even mention the CMU-C in France which roughly reimburses at 100% people who are unemployed or in a precarious financial situation (hospital, doctor's consultation, dental care, glasses, hearing aids...). Yes we pay more taxes with this system, yes hospitals are overwhelmed because more people are getting treatment, but at least we're sure we don't have to mortgage our house for a hansaplast :)
20% of administrative cost on every medical bill?? That just theft
Nope, that's America 😀
Military needs trillions, ok 👍, bank bailouts needs trillions, ok 👍 universal health care? Got no money for that.👎
Healthcare system in the U.S. is fraught with the same issues in its public education system -- too much administrative cost. Main culprit - constant fear of legal action.
@Gene Main culprit: regulatory capture
I'm not french, I barely know anything about France, I haven't even been to france nor do I know anyone I know personally who lives there but I'm confident it has better healthcare than the US.
And I'm saying this before watching this video.
watch anyway ! Although it doesn't explain much the different recipes in europe, or elswhere. They all work, and it's a good thing you feel it's better than the US healthcare industry.
I am British living in France I chose my doctor I chose my laboratory I can chose my taxi /fully equipped ambulance if I need treatment at a hospital I can change my doctor anytime I like.
I get all my medical documents ( xrays -test results all medical data) I come first in the medical system .In Britain I was not allowed any of my medical documents
How does it stack up???
That's simple!
FRANCE IS BETTER! 💕💕💕💕
Gracie Daniels have you ever visited France
Phil Phil yes and best country in the world
Gracie Daniels France health access is better that it
Move to France then
Clean up the US Food supply and water supply. French eat good real food. People are in better shape. The US has a food problem.
Obesity is a major issue. I was litteraly shocked to see how fat people are in your country. It's a major health issue and it seems nobody care in the US. ... plus, legal drugs : painkillers ...
The food in the U.S. was better back then but now it has chemicals and dangerous additives instead right now like H.F.C.S. than Sugar.
@@freewal yes. Went out last night. Looked like most of people were drug down train tracks face down. Poison in everything including water
David Flash your sarcasm won’t hide the hard reality. The food is horrible in the US.
Italy’s focus on prevention, rather than treatment, is what I believe keeps the Italian health care system at such a high rank 2° in the World Health Organization’s listing of top countries for quality health care.
France is just a much better country than America. End of story. Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Germany, UK, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, New Zealand, Australia and Canada are all way better countries than America. End of story.
Of Course. These countries value the health of the people while USA doesn't.
Lmfao That's your OPINION. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, most of them stink. #ENDofstory
America has an established system to benefit the doctors and attorneys. These 2 professions thrive and earn a high salary in the expenses of the average Joe.
Jennyoy High salary yes but with insanely high malpractice insurance! Stop your wealth envy.
tiestu also don’t forget doctors go through around 7-9 years of extra education after college if it were easy everyone would do it.
I wish people would do their research before posting this senseless crap. Physicians in America are UNDER-paid. Look at your hospital bill the next time you have one. The MAJORITY of the costs go to administration, overpriced hospital medications, and overpriced hospital beds. Physician pay hasn’t increased in decades aside from the inflation adjustments. These major pharmaceutical and medical device companies are finding loopholes to maximize profits while allowing the physicians to take the hit.
Example 1: An orthopedic surgeon often times has to use some kind of metal or other materialistic device/screw/joint replacement, etc. to fix the problem for their patients. For every surgery, they will have at least 2 or more “representatives” in the room to “aid the surgeon” with the devices he/she may be putting into the patient. These “reps” are from the company that supplies the devices and are earning a yearly salary of no less than 6-figures. These companies make sure it’s built into their sales contracts with the hospitals or physicians and this allows them to legally charge MORE than they would if they were to only provide the parts for the surgery.
Example 2: Medical companies aren’t dumb..the majority of them got into this field purely out of greed because of the vast amounts of money to be earned and the loopholes for which they can use to exploit the system. Normally, a company would make a product, sale it to a distributor, and the distributor would sale directly to the customer which would be the physician or hospital systems. However, thanks to our lobbyists and poor legislatures there are numerous loopholes for which profits can be more than doubled, and you can probably guess who pays that price. One way they do this is to create these “pseudo-companies” that act as “middle-men” in the chain of supply to the buyers. So, instead of only being able to up-charge two times (sale to distributor, then distributor to buyer) they can up-charge many times with these middlemen. The companies will sell it to some “middleman” who on paper has some “legit” job to “find distributors for the product,” then they sale to the distributors. The distributors then have their own middleman who does the same thing, and it goes on and on until the buyer finally has the product which has been marked-up in price 6, 7, maybe even more than 8 times from where it was originally off the original companies shelf.
@@xxmike112xx no care tommy
And insurance companies...
Love the point on increases in preventive measures being promoted under single payer than just the market. Hence why it is cheaper.
Big pharma don't like that cause if diseases don't happen then they don't profit
@@bl00dkillz France and Germany also have big pharmaceutical companies....
I'm not a fan of big pharma. Imo, they are corrupt as hell.
With that being said, I work in a hospital for almost ten years and I see so many French, Canadians, Brits, and other countries come to the U.S for treatment of major health problems and diseases.
I asked them, "Isn't it cheaper to be treated in your own country since your health care is better than the U.S??"
They replied, "Cheaper doesn't mean it's better. Since its government run, there is no innovative treatment. My life is on the line, so I'm willing to spend more in the U.S. for better treatment."
Fyi...NHS is NOT free. It's funded by the British tax payers. Anything government run is funded by tax payers. The citizens end up paying for it, so it's not free.
And NHS is on the verge of bankruptcy, they are going broke. Just go research it if you don't believe me.
A country (any country) cannot have free healthcare, free housing, free welfare, free everything while at the same time having unvetted ILLEGALS coming into its country to leech off of these freebies.
It just won't work.
A country cannot have free everything while at the same time, allowed refugees and illegals, and immigrants to just waltz right in.
These refugees, illegals did not pay into the system yet they are benefiting from these system.
You cannot have one set that works and pay taxes, while another set just take take take and pay nothing.
90% of illegals are on welfare. Don't believe me?? Go look it up. Welfare is pay for by the tax payers. It's not free money out of thin air.
@@terriesmith8219 But most French, Canadians, Brits and other countries aren't coming to the U.S. for treatment while some Americans go outside the U.S. for cheaper treatment. Maybe the U.S. healthcare system in general isn't going bankrupt but the patients and even those with insurance are going bankrupt instead. Healthcare costs around the world no matter what kind of system is in place is a challenge. Each country is using various methods to resolve it and not just branding it as "free."
That one example sounds like a great savings but most of the cost savings in France is really due to lower healthcare labor costs (i.e. doctors paid less). If you can't push down their costs then a US version would cost more.
I'm Australian.. have spent over 200 days in various hospitals over my life (60y.o.) and never received a bill or paid a cent and got top care everywhere I went. .. The US 'system' is a sad joke... thank God I don't live there.. I'd either be dead or bankrupt.... or both.
Australia has lots of great things including healthcare, cricket, etc. while America doesn't have anything. America has wealthcare. Not healthcare. That is why there are lots of homeless people in USA since they sell their homes in order to pay off the medical debts.
I moved from the USA to Canada. Canadian health care is not as comprehensive as France's from what I can tell but its still a life-changing difference compared the USA. I rarely pay more than $20 CAD ($15 USD/13 Euro) per prescription.
6:04 Not just French citizens, I got a Carte Vitale after enrolling at the university there on a long-stay visa.
Welcome to France buddy, where do you come from ?
Glad to hear that ! Was at the LMDE when I first joined university, never get my Carte Vitale (of course had my rights full opened tho) but still 🤣
I had to wait till my firdt job to recieve my Carte Vital
I lived in France. I didn’t mind having 55% of my income taken out for social programs knowing that it’ll be taken care of. I’ve never heard any complaints from friends in France about their system. Also one thing to note is since France is in the EU, they also have access to medical care in any of the other EU states
As an American living and working in France I am happy with the taxes I pay here (not so much with the taxes I pay to uncle Sam ;o). The health care is excellent. There are problems doctors and nurses are overworked and they should get more attention. I believe this will end up being solved since the French like their system and will do their best to keep it working.
Healthcare in the United States is nothing but business. It is like a car dealer that rips your insurance company to fix the problem even though the problem isn't there.
Another problem is that people without medical knowledge is dictating or steering what doctors can or cannot do for their patients. Usually via insurance.
I'm American and I am embarrassed by our healthcare "system". It's not a healthcare system, it's a profit machine. Our so called "healthcare system" here in the USA is a joke in the eyes of the rest of the world.
I am an american citizen and business owner in France. I should complain about taxes and social contributions. But I do not I'm happy to pay my share, It's what they call "fraternité" and it goes with "liberté and égalité" nothing is perfect but whatever it is here suits me.
I'm French and I just can't understand how US citizens can be financially stable about their life. If you can go into abyssal debts for such basic things like education or breaking a bone, if the minimal wage is so low, if you are constantly paying taxes decided by some private compagnies operating without restrictions. How are you supposed to live? Are you fated to work yourself to death? Doesn't the bills end up stacking up? What do you do when you can't pay any more? How can you live your life knowing everything you have can be lost in a minute? How do poor people survive in america?