The use of numbers makes me confuse it with the Enneagram. As a social type 3, I hate it when I'm chosen to be the leader. I'm good at MY THING. I don't want to control other people and their things. It's weird how 3s follow the trusted path, while at the same time doing everything their own way. But it's true. When I become interested in something like a new hobby, I have to do tons of research to determine the best way to get into it.
U wanna be president? #1234: Yes U sure? #234: U right it's a lot of responsibility, I dont want to be president anymore. #1: I mean, it is a lot if responsibility but still...
I like this expansion, and I think it can explain a lot. I agree a different form of labeling, other than numbers, would be helpful. There's too many systems with numbers in the personality realm. I'm looking forward to applying this, and so far it's pretty easy to practice when watching movies and shows. Easier than spotting functions, I think, because people *seem* to feel less "shame" about their social type, and don't try to hide it. I suppose hence "social" type 🤣
This is great. I'm pretty sure I'm a 3 and a lot of this lines up with stuff I noticed about myself years ago...very much excel over most people when I'm in a specific structured framework that's working towards a goal with incremental steps and progress, like school, and almost totally dysfunctional outside of that.
I've been going back and forth on my social type with other people from the community over the past few months, but the way you phrase it really resonates. Excelling at school was easy, but now, having to do a job that doesn't have a well defined framework or goal, and needs you to be more of a 2, it's a struggle. Also, the rules thing that Dave mentions might finally explain a behavior of mine that's kinda counter to my type: I've always had these personal self-restraint rules like "no smoking, no excessive drinking, no recreational drugs, no gambling, no paying for sex" that didn't come from my environment or parents or religion or anything - it's just things I decided for myself and considering I'm a MF Se/Ti CPBS you'd think I'd be super drawn and susceptible to those things, rather than run away from them. So being a 3 and therefore IxxJ-like might be the counter balance that's saved me from getting hooked on those addictions.
What you said was a beautiful representation of Oi. I’m not sure I see how it relates to being a #3 though. Do you mind me asking what do you specialize in? Also I’ve seen you on Reddit, you’re NiTi right?
@@Owlsworthy yeah, so it's kind of the same thing Dave was talking about with his dad like going through a school program and kind of this sequence of mastering one thing, then the next thing, then the next in a very structured environment so that 5, 10, however many years later, he eventually has that broad skillset through gaining all those skills one at a time. Doing it all at the same time by just jumping in would be too much. School classes and training programs will do stuff like that, where you're just mastering one thing for a week or a month, and then you move onto the next one. And you do the assignments or whatever, you take the test, you get a result that shows that you've learned it and can move on. It's good for social type 3 because it cuts out all of the different random things you might have to be "responsible" for if you jumped right into starting a business - legal incorporation, taxes, payroll, safety standards, market research, advertising, whatever your actual business is, etc. You'd have to do all that stuff at once. In a training program you can learn one at a time. Some kind of apprenticeship or introductory position could also achieve a similar result of course. And yeah the fact that I'm a very introverted and Oi type of dude definitely also contributes, the demon Play as well as demon Oe means I tend to get exhausted by random chaos or having to run all over the place and do a bunch of different things. When I was in school I mostly specialized in math and did some teaching but that didn't really pan out after graduation so I've had to find other work, which is an ongoing process and kind of the biggest life struggle for the past several years though I'm in an okay position right now relatively speaking. I've also had various "hobby specializations" over time of course, like certain video games and this personality theory stuff.
@@StanTheWozoh! That makes sense. I'm officially typed #4 but was having a hard time understanding specialize. So it's not that you choose one thing and specialize, it's you specialize on what's in front of you at that time of life. Thank you for helping me understand. I can't imagine how hard it must be to be Oi on top of specialize. Glad you're in a good place now 😊
Same. Mine's in the workplace. And also why I struggled in school; waaaay too many different instruction manuals, for different departments, at one time. That's why I just basically "focused" on Athletics & Performing Arts (in Truth/retrospect, all as forms of Therapy), & did what I had to do to pass my classes (& graduate).
The #4 can throw a car after you… I will heed that warning 😂 We made our own introduction to social types a few months ago for anyone who’s still a bit confused: Social Types | Introduction to OPS: Part 8 czcams.com/video/Q1PKKyjdBSU/video.html
I laughed when I watch number 3. They are so dumb, they have flex but not want to be at the top, they specialize too hard and forget to do what it takes to reach their goals. But wait... I think I might be number 3 lol
I don’t believe anything easily but I was fascinated when I saw the patterns in real life in my family members and friends! I can very clearly see the social types. Social types are like the long term goal that people have that is manifested and competed through saviours, at least that’s how I see it in people close to me, but yeah it’s 100% real I can see those patterns and also it’s super useful tool
I love that Andrew Tate was the knee jerk response to a bad INFJ. I feel like I have the "enjoy life now" philosophy. I'm not an ambitious person, and I definitely am more specialize than generalize, but I wonder if my perception of that is warped because I'm savior Ti and Demon Fe, I feel like I'm not a Four because I don't have a ton of friends, but it is still a value for me, I spend a lot of one-on-one time with my family, so maybe I am a Four, I just get confused because I'm not being all Fe crazy when I interact with people.
As an ExxP lead consume #3, I never understood how people could agree on a project spontaneously. Oh no, how could you forget a precise evaluation of your resources, knowledge and capability to complete a task? I'd just always refuse with the collective work/work that's assigned to me from the external, one that I wasn't interested in with the remark "I'm not suited for that." once and once again. Are you really supposed to figure it as you go? But what's... the purpose of that, to spit out the task completion? I want everything I go into to leave a deep mark on me, or I truly won't learn, won't extract anything useful in the long run. And this path I'm going down contains only... those 3 things (technically 1) I'm pro in, yeah, your guess is correct.
@@Markbenwisch it's really just a coin that can be typed separately. For starters, you figure out your observer vs decider, then animals. My attention is always directed outside, at the external with great immersion, but it's quiet and doesn't want to interact with info too much, just observe constantly. You can also rule it out by using Di vs De, Oe vs Oi. Your modalities can help. I'm mDi+mOe, so it wasn't hard for me to see where my literal primary conscious attention goes every second. As for fDi/fOe - you can feel directing more energy to other animals, but you still do something else and find your default mode to be observation, as for consume first. If an animal has at least one F, you'll feel the difference - you don't treat that side seriously, an animal can be less intense, permeating, deliberate in that half, but the mere compulsion that animals track is still here.
I am an isfp and bet I am a 2 because I never really know what I want to do with my time and how I should spend it. I have a couple of generic hobbies that I do all the time but nothing im really good at in particular. Im getting an art degree right now and ive taken so many random art classes that its frustrating when peope ask my concentration because im not very good at any of them in particular but ive taken so many. I also have had so many random jobs that have a small overlap and I cant really see myself doing the same thing forever which makes me sad because I want to specialize in a skill but I cant see myself ever doing that.
Wait! I thought Friends (type 4) enjoying life in the here and now were bad Townsfolk people according to OPS. And Shave criticised everyone for not resonating with their type, but in this video he admits he himself was struggling with OPS type contradictions and so he invented the Social types. And now he's telling people it takes 15 years (when he's 55) to have his OPS personal growth and happiness all sorted out. I'd be ashamed to lure people into wasting their lives on a 15 year project that is based on Shave's mere personal preferences and idiosyncrasies.
My specialty is generalization. ...Wait... Aren't there 16 possible # options here? Like, I know someone who's: Responsibility, Specialize, Friends, then Flex... And, another person who's: Friends, Responsibility, Specialize, then Flex. Not tryundu be antagonisitic here. Legit intent on positive push back, with intent to fully comprehend.
Nice clickbait :) Thanks for sharing your spin on this for the tribe Dave. One really interesting thing about personality typology is the hierarchy of sacrifice. What I'm finding is people are more willing to sacrifice their 512 type for their social type because there's more "emotional weight" on their social type. It feels more personal and real because its connected to a personal story/hero's journey/the personal myth. But this is only the beginning of one's story. The end part of it is what's meaningful for someone. And if we find our meaning, then we're willing to sacrifice our social type (social need/archetype/social instinct) in order to manifest meaning. I have some powerful visuals which shows a structures of the psyche and how personal meaning is actually the pathway to collective meaning, which inevitably is opening up a portal to another universe which is experienced outside of oneself. At the end of the day, we're just following natures script/agenda. It'll be interesting to see where this takes us.
@@Stellarfront well yeah but if nobody explains the concept then how would I know what these numbers mean? I'm not a mind reader, explain things clearly and precisely like you did and we have no problems.
@@maryphoenix5414 I find OPS _most accurate,_ so I probably won't stop watching however I'm getting tired of all the unrelated _opinions._ And it essentially boils down to their opinion of what people should be like, as if they were wise enough to decide that. It's an unvocalized opinion that everyone should be a)harmless like a cat without its claws, as to not scare them, and b)should trust the news because that's what they do. "Donald scary," "carbon-induced climate change real" sums it up.
@@Markbenwisch that's because both isfps and entps have same set of functions.Fi is simply about what one values or likes opposed to the tribe/society.
@Markbenwisch Peterson is ENTJ? Can you even type? Can't tell the difference between Fe Fi and Te Ti? Tate pretends to act like an ESTP, but he's actually an ENTP.
The use of numbers makes me confuse it with the Enneagram.
As a social type 3, I hate it when I'm chosen to be the leader. I'm good at MY THING. I don't want to control other people and their things. It's weird how 3s follow the trusted path, while at the same time doing everything their own way. But it's true. When I become interested in something like a new hobby, I have to do tons of research to determine the best way to get into it.
I know right? I confused them too at first, but then I read the description
U wanna be president?
#1234: Yes
U sure?
#234: U right it's a lot of responsibility, I dont want to be president anymore.
#1: I mean, it is a lot if responsibility but still...
It’s so interesting how types can be kind of contradictory- An ExxP (3), or an IxxP (4)
4, 1, 2, 3?... Really? You're a monster! 😤🤗
LOL! I know right? My si was triggered 😂
I really liked this update.
I like this expansion, and I think it can explain a lot. I agree a different form of labeling, other than numbers, would be helpful. There's too many systems with numbers in the personality realm.
I'm looking forward to applying this, and so far it's pretty easy to practice when watching movies and shows. Easier than spotting functions, I think, because people *seem* to feel less "shame" about their social type, and don't try to hide it. I suppose hence "social" type 🤣
This is great. I'm pretty sure I'm a 3 and a lot of this lines up with stuff I noticed about myself years ago...very much excel over most people when I'm in a specific structured framework that's working towards a goal with incremental steps and progress, like school, and almost totally dysfunctional outside of that.
I've been going back and forth on my social type with other people from the community over the past few months, but the way you phrase it really resonates.
Excelling at school was easy, but now, having to do a job that doesn't have a well defined framework or goal, and needs you to be more of a 2, it's a struggle.
Also, the rules thing that Dave mentions might finally explain a behavior of mine that's kinda counter to my type: I've always had these personal self-restraint rules like "no smoking, no excessive drinking, no recreational drugs, no gambling, no paying for sex" that didn't come from my environment or parents or religion or anything - it's just things I decided for myself and considering I'm a MF Se/Ti CPBS you'd think I'd be super drawn and susceptible to those things, rather than run away from them.
So being a 3 and therefore IxxJ-like might be the counter balance that's saved me from getting hooked on those addictions.
What you said was a beautiful representation of Oi. I’m not sure I see how it relates to being a #3 though. Do you mind me asking what do you specialize in? Also I’ve seen you on Reddit, you’re NiTi right?
@@Owlsworthy yeah, so it's kind of the same thing Dave was talking about with his dad like going through a school program and kind of this sequence of mastering one thing, then the next thing, then the next in a very structured environment so that 5, 10, however many years later, he eventually has that broad skillset through gaining all those skills one at a time. Doing it all at the same time by just jumping in would be too much. School classes and training programs will do stuff like that, where you're just mastering one thing for a week or a month, and then you move onto the next one. And you do the assignments or whatever, you take the test, you get a result that shows that you've learned it and can move on. It's good for social type 3 because it cuts out all of the different random things you might have to be "responsible" for if you jumped right into starting a business - legal incorporation, taxes, payroll, safety standards, market research, advertising, whatever your actual business is, etc. You'd have to do all that stuff at once. In a training program you can learn one at a time. Some kind of apprenticeship or introductory position could also achieve a similar result of course.
And yeah the fact that I'm a very introverted and Oi type of dude definitely also contributes, the demon Play as well as demon Oe means I tend to get exhausted by random chaos or having to run all over the place and do a bunch of different things.
When I was in school I mostly specialized in math and did some teaching but that didn't really pan out after graduation so I've had to find other work, which is an ongoing process and kind of the biggest life struggle for the past several years though I'm in an okay position right now relatively speaking. I've also had various "hobby specializations" over time of course, like certain video games and this personality theory stuff.
@@StanTheWozoh! That makes sense. I'm officially typed #4 but was having a hard time understanding specialize. So it's not that you choose one thing and specialize, it's you specialize on what's in front of you at that time of life. Thank you for helping me understand. I can't imagine how hard it must be to be Oi on top of specialize. Glad you're in a good place now 😊
Same. Mine's in the workplace. And also why I struggled in school; waaaay too many different instruction manuals, for different departments, at one time. That's why I just basically "focused" on Athletics & Performing Arts (in Truth/retrospect, all as forms of Therapy), & did what I had to do to pass my classes (& graduate).
The #4 can throw a car after you… I will heed that warning 😂
We made our own introduction to social types a few months ago for anyone who’s still a bit confused:
Social Types | Introduction to OPS: Part 8
czcams.com/video/Q1PKKyjdBSU/video.html
I laughed when I watch number 3. They are so dumb, they have flex but not want to be at the top, they specialize too hard and forget to do what it takes to reach their goals. But wait... I think I might be number 3 lol
damn bro me too 😔😂
Maybe sorta probably:
1 = Consume - Sleep
2 = Play - Consume
3 = Sleep - Blast
4 = Blast - Play
1 Di
2 Oe like
3 Oi like
4 De
@@Stellarfront and as a extension:
1 - Sleep
2 - Consume
3 - Blast
4 - Play
1- Te
2- Fe
3- Ni
4- Se
@@powerforu94 maybe se ti
@@powerforu94 foundddd you mr celebrity MF-Se/Ti-CP/B(S)
I'd guess your social type is friends
Psychology is already the witchcraft of science. What fresh hell is this 😂
I don’t believe anything easily but I was fascinated when I saw the patterns in real life in my family members and friends! I can very clearly see the social types. Social types are like the long term goal that people have that is manifested and competed through saviours, at least that’s how I see it in people close to me, but yeah it’s 100% real I can see those patterns and also it’s super useful tool
Why is this comment so frign *awesome.*
I love that Andrew Tate was the knee jerk response to a bad INFJ.
I feel like I have the "enjoy life now" philosophy. I'm not an ambitious person, and I definitely am more specialize than generalize, but I wonder if my perception of that is warped because I'm savior Ti and Demon Fe, I feel like I'm not a Four because I don't have a ton of friends, but it is still a value for me, I spend a lot of one-on-one time with my family, so maybe I am a Four, I just get confused because I'm not being all Fe crazy when I interact with people.
No wonder you are confused. Get over to socionics already.
As an ExxP lead consume #3, I never understood how people could agree on a project spontaneously. Oh no, how could you forget a precise evaluation of your resources, knowledge and capability to complete a task? I'd just always refuse with the collective work/work that's assigned to me from the external, one that I wasn't interested in with the remark "I'm not suited for that." once and once again. Are you really supposed to figure it as you go? But what's... the purpose of that, to spit out the task completion? I want everything I go into to leave a deep mark on me, or I truly won't learn, won't extract anything useful in the long run. And this path I'm going down contains only... those 3 things (technically 1) I'm pro in, yeah, your guess is correct.
really clarifies well the 3s
How do you know, you lead with consume, when you type yourself as EXXP?
@@Markbenwisch it's really just a coin that can be typed separately. For starters, you figure out your observer vs decider, then animals. My attention is always directed outside, at the external with great immersion, but it's quiet and doesn't want to interact with info too much, just observe constantly. You can also rule it out by using Di vs De, Oe vs Oi. Your modalities can help. I'm mDi+mOe, so it wasn't hard for me to see where my literal primary conscious attention goes every second. As for fDi/fOe - you can feel directing more energy to other animals, but you still do something else and find your default mode to be observation, as for consume first. If an animal has at least one F, you'll feel the difference - you don't treat that side seriously, an animal can be less intense, permeating, deliberate in that half, but the mere compulsion that animals track is still here.
the video lacks explanation on the mechanics and the backround :(
What do you expect from an esoteric ENFP who thinks he is a smart figured all out INTJ?
Thanks for the 55 at the end. Always good to end on a positive note.
I am an isfp and bet I am a 2 because I never really know what I want to do with my time and how I should spend it. I have a couple of generic hobbies that I do all the time but nothing im really good at in particular. Im getting an art degree right now and ive taken so many random art classes that its frustrating when peope ask my concentration because im not very good at any of them in particular but ive taken so many. I also have had so many random jobs that have a small overlap and I cant really see myself doing the same thing forever which makes me sad because I want to specialize in a skill but I cant see myself ever doing that.
Have we considered the "jumping" possibility yet? I think I'm a "Friends, generalize..." :)
Are you looking to see if (like animals) the last two of the social stack can flip?
Yyaaayyy
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an unclear video on a system in my life.
He’s NF 😂
@@dariaantonov7257 I'm NF Consume he spoke my language lol.
@@dariaantonov7257 yap, definitely NF!
3's are like IxTPs
Honestly, after realizing I was a #4, my life story made so much fucking sense.
Wait! I thought Friends (type 4) enjoying life in the here and now were bad Townsfolk people according to OPS. And Shave criticised everyone for not resonating with their type, but in this video he admits he himself was struggling with OPS type contradictions and so he invented the Social types. And now he's telling people it takes 15 years (when he's 55) to have his OPS personal growth and happiness all sorted out. I'd be ashamed to lure people into wasting their lives on a 15 year project that is based on Shave's mere personal preferences and idiosyncrasies.
My specialty is generalization.
...Wait...
Aren't there 16 possible # options here? Like, I know someone who's: Responsibility, Specialize, Friends, then Flex... And, another person who's: Friends, Responsibility, Specialize, then Flex.
Not tryundu be antagonisitic here.
Legit intent on positive push back, with intent to fully comprehend.
Nice clickbait :) Thanks for sharing your spin on this for the tribe Dave.
One really interesting thing about personality typology is the hierarchy of sacrifice.
What I'm finding is people are more willing to sacrifice their 512 type for their social type because there's more "emotional weight" on their social type. It feels more personal and real because its connected to a personal story/hero's journey/the personal myth.
But this is only the beginning of one's story. The end part of it is what's meaningful for someone. And if we find our meaning, then we're willing to sacrifice our social type (social need/archetype/social instinct) in order to manifest meaning.
I have some powerful visuals which shows a structures of the psyche and how personal meaning is actually the pathway to collective meaning, which inevitably is opening up a portal to another universe which is experienced outside of oneself.
At the end of the day, we're just following natures script/agenda. It'll be interesting to see where this takes us.
I'm definitely a 2
Does anyone have their 'favorites' playlist saved?
They had these motivational videos that I used to find valuable 😞
reinventing the enneagram?
I don't understand this number system
He's trying to imply that if you're not #1, you cause all the problems in your life and will always be surpassed. ( I hope you're an observer lol)
@@Stellarfront well yeah but if nobody explains the concept then how would I know what these numbers mean? I'm not a mind reader, explain things clearly and precisely like you did and we have no problems.
@chrisp308 I think the numbers themselves are just an easy (placeholder) symbol to represent the meaning
@@Stellarfront well thanks for your opinion on the matter
@chrisp308 ofc... did I awnser your question how you wanted? I'm not sure I understood
Would double feminine 1s be different?
They still have the drive, but they are generally much more diplomatic
@@denzelwashington3596 yh true can see that
What are 7’s? Like what super hero?
Andrew tate is seriously an INFJ in OPS?
He is INFJ jumper NiTi
Go make a typology video already❗️❗️❗️
@@KamilRatajczak-oo5ufAndrew fucking Tate an INFJ?! That's not possible! According to WHO he is INFJ? He is definitively ESTP.
Andrew Tate: Bad, Donald Trump: Scary; Got it.
Yeah they have a kinda heavy left lean, their info is still useful I think but you've got to take some of it with a grain of salt
@@maryphoenix5414 I find OPS _most accurate,_ so I probably won't stop watching however I'm getting tired of all the unrelated _opinions._ And it essentially boils down to their opinion of what people should be like, as if they were wise enough to decide that. It's an unvocalized opinion that everyone should be a)harmless like a cat without its claws, as to not scare them, and b)should trust the news because that's what they do.
"Donald scary," "carbon-induced climate change real" sums it up.
Andrew Tate is an ENTP. An INFJ would be Jordan Peterson.
Andew Tate is not a usual INFj.He is a jumper INFj
@@Markbenwisch Peterson is ISFP
@@Markbenwisch yes,he is leading Fi.
@@Markbenwisch that's because both isfps and entps have same set of functions.Fi is simply about what one values or likes opposed to the tribe/society.
@Markbenwisch Peterson is ENTJ? Can you even type? Can't tell the difference between Fe Fi and Te Ti? Tate pretends to act like an ESTP, but he's actually an ENTP.