2023 Range Rover Sport Review. Should you buy this instead of the Range Rover & save £20,000?

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  • The new Range Rover Sport is almost the same size of the Range Rover, so should you buy this instead and save £20,000.
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  • @nigelb5370
    @nigelb5370 Před rokem +639

    If these SUVs get any bigger, people are going to need a Class 1 to drive one.

    • @thejfg7741
      @thejfg7741 Před rokem +38

      That’s a genuine issue with full big EV’s as the weight increases

    • @indiebekonn
      @indiebekonn Před rokem +31

      Apparently EU is on its way to move the “B” licence from 3500kg GVWR TO 4250kg really soon. EVs and cars like these might well be one of the reasons for that.

    • @ReplicantBattyman
      @ReplicantBattyman Před rokem +16

      @@thejfg7741 pretty sure the current range rover EV in development is over the weight threshold.

    • @thejfg7741
      @thejfg7741 Před rokem +1

      @@ReplicantBattyman I have heard the rumours.

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 Před rokem +9

      Just started watching and guessing already it’s too big.

  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis Před rokem +615

    Sorry Harry but at 100K it’s not a “normal family” car.

    • @MrSCC.
      @MrSCC. Před rokem +150

      I Totally agree. Most of those reviewers have lost the touch with reality. They are so spoiled with the cars they drive.

    • @8arcbal
      @8arcbal Před rokem +67

      Just speculation. Perhaps the comment is because he probably represents Britain's highest-earning tenth.

    • @sashidemedia
      @sashidemedia Před rokem +10

      Lol agreed

    • @a8uella
      @a8uella Před rokem +30

      Normal to his peers

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 Před rokem +44

      @@8arcbal Tenth? I’d guess he’s a 99 percenter. So from his perspective, RRs are family cars

  • @Kelveron
    @Kelveron Před rokem +29

    7:48 '...time to move away from round dials...'. Fair enough if round dials don't do it for you, Harry. But to my eyes not only are round dials perfectly easy to read, and they look great aesthetically. You know, if it ain't broke and all that.

    • @RichardHartley65
      @RichardHartley65 Před rokem +2

      Have to agree. I was surprised to hear HM’s comment on dials. I’ve always thought that it’s much easier to glance down at a dial and see the position of the needle. You soon learn the geography of the dials and it’s easy to relate the needle position to a particular speed or to RPM.

  • @darrenprior6339
    @darrenprior6339 Před rokem +60

    Tyre manufacturers must love all of this additional weight. See you in 5,000 miles for a new set.

    • @zakelwe
      @zakelwe Před rokem +1

      In the old days people used to struggle with over tight wheel nuts, now even if they are ok people struggle with the weight of the 22 inch wheel and 285 tyre. I feel for the tyre fitters backs...

    • @darrenprior6339
      @darrenprior6339 Před rokem

      @@zakelwe They are indeed heavy. I have a 2022 Disco 5 and because it has 22 inch road tyres it's basically useless off-road so I'm often switching from these wheels to a set of 20 inch off roaders. They're like truck wheels. I don't know how any woman could replace a flat tyre on the side of a road dealing with such heft

    • @basboerboom9328
      @basboerboom9328 Před rokem +1

      And roads will wear sooner with the increased weight of cars.

  • @darrylweathers6764
    @darrylweathers6764 Před rokem +91

    Hmmmm… maybe it will grow on me when I see one in the metal, but right now, I prefer the old Range Rover Sport looks wise

    • @Thanos.m
      @Thanos.m Před rokem +5

      The exact opposite happened to me I liked it on the press photos but I actually found very bland a bulbous in real life

    • @HQBProductions
      @HQBProductions Před rokem +3

      @@Thanos.m I saw a flat matt grey one with black pack and it looked dreadful…to square, dumpy, overweight and suited the man driving it perfectly..25 stone of used buns and burgers! The older car is far better.🙂

    • @WFO.
      @WFO. Před rokem

      @@Thanos.m Same here. See one last week at Cars & Coffee in 22066 VA USA and it looked like a big fat rich kid. Dressed nicely, but you know he’ll never make the varsity team.

    • @midget1993
      @midget1993 Před rokem +5

      much prefer the previous model

  • @michaelking6596
    @michaelking6596 Před rokem +208

    Front from bonnet down looks like 1 car stacked onto another 😮

    • @Digitall3
      @Digitall3 Před rokem +22

      omg can't unsee

    • @BarryMakariou
      @BarryMakariou Před rokem +3

      Agree

    • @henryhealy
      @henryhealy Před rokem +13

      I can’t ignore that now. Very questionable design decision.

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před rokem +7

      That's because - in terms of weight - that's exactly what this is!

    • @khanisbrown6424
      @khanisbrown6424 Před rokem +6

      I can't unsee it now. Why did you tell me??

  • @pistonburner6448
    @pistonburner6448 Před rokem +155

    In the age of EVs I don't think it's heavy enough to win in the arms race. It needs a few tons more in mass so inattentive text-messaging customers can think they won't hurt themselves when they plow into others.

    • @mra9085
      @mra9085 Před rokem +13

      😆True, true. The EQS is 2.7 tonnes, so this should be over 3 at least! May as well offer military tanks for sale to the public at this point...

    • @cliveramsbotty6077
      @cliveramsbotty6077 Před rokem +1

      plough

    • @DidesCharlie
      @DidesCharlie Před rokem

      @@cliveramsbotty6077 rhymes with "cough"

  • @bmanduprit2962
    @bmanduprit2962 Před rokem +61

    Everyones favourite uncle giving it some opposite lock in a block of flats 😂

  • @joshmoss1614
    @joshmoss1614 Před rokem +11

    I love the reviews given by Harry he is honest and real in his presentation if he doesn’t like something in the vehicle or he thinks it’s unnecessary he will tell us good on ya Harry .

  • @saxon-mt5by
    @saxon-mt5by Před rokem +34

    What's wrong with round dials, Harry? They are far easier to read than digital figures; a quick glance is all that is needed to see the angle of a needle rather than looking at figures which can be misread.

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong Před rokem +3

      I at the other end of the scale, give me a digital speed readout, way easier than working out if iam doing 32mph (no ticket) or 36mph (possible ticket) every time.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Před rokem +1

      @@brianiswrong Exactly! Digital speedo is infinitely better for sure. I had a car with a tiny digital speedo you could call up on the on board computer as well as the traditional big analog speedo, and I'd always use the tiny digital one as it's more precise and easier to read. Hell, I'll rather use Waze on my phone to see my speed than an analog speedometer!
      Optimum is a big analog rev counter and a big digital speedo reading in the middle of it / below it.

    • @crazyfroggie6546
      @crazyfroggie6546 Před rokem

      Agree. Many modern dashboards still have round dials and a little digital screen that you can make show a readout of speed as well

    • @howarddavies136
      @howarddavies136 Před rokem +1

      @crazyfroggie6546 that's the best solution IMO. Nice traditional round dials, like a watch face, but with a digital for convenience.

    • @saxon-mt5by
      @saxon-mt5by Před rokem +1

      @@brianiswrong Why not just stick to the 30mph limit and then you know you won't get a ticket!

  • @propulsar
    @propulsar Před rokem +28

    A world beyond my ken where you can save £20,000 by buying a Range Rover slightly less than the réal deal but you are still parting with more than £100,000. Madness!

  • @manonabeachjourneys
    @manonabeachjourneys Před rokem +13

    Oh dear, too big to park, too expensive, 70's slabby front end. These SUV's are now silly. Thanks for the video, will give these a wide berth.

  • @danielbrown4579
    @danielbrown4579 Před rokem +11

    I’m surprised on the round dials comment too from yourself? That’s one thing I’d leave in modern cars and have the screens around them, so easy and clear to read.

  • @markwood7045
    @markwood7045 Před rokem +9

    These are now Sunseekers for the road. Land yachts. I know they can theoretically wade 900mm, have approach and departure angles far superior to your Qashqais etc, but most of these are bought because people like BIG cars, premium 'high-up' vehicles, and cars that demonstrate wealth.

    • @Quorented
      @Quorented Před rokem +2

      Most definitely! Love sunseekers. Perfect comparison

  • @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab

    It's hideous! 😨 🤢 And buttons are GOOD because they allow you to press and know the function is selected, enabling to do this while concentrating on the road. Touch screens with huge menus are BAD for the same reason...Hate the car 👎 but love the content Harry! 👍🏻

    • @highlandmalt6368
      @highlandmalt6368 Před rokem +3

      Couldn't agree more - I've done 57k in my SQ7 now - the screens in it are not suitable for road cars, they are totally ridiculous and dangerous, like using a smart phone.

    • @Holloweve
      @Holloweve Před rokem

      It has haptic feedback and a lot of functions are switches or knobs below or on the steering wheel.., or voice

    • @highlandmalt6368
      @highlandmalt6368 Před rokem +1

      @@Holloweve The haptic feedback is irrelevant and doesn't help - because the problem is in pressing the right part of the screen in the first place, which demands too much concentration and distraction from the road. With proper buttons I can make adjustments often just by feel.

    • @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab
      @Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Před rokem

      @@Holloweve ...Ooof! 😒

    • @ianwilson2968
      @ianwilson2968 Před rokem

      @@highlandmalt6368 Ni, I have the Q8 which has identical screens and have no problem. The AC is set on auto and even with our temps ranging from 3 - 40+ degrees heat in Cyprus, gets touched about twice a year, unless I use “I’m too hot / cold” voice command. The nav is set at the start of trip when not moving, music doesn’t change much once I’ve started a trip, and I guess I’m like many and stick to the same radio station. Volume is on the wheel anyway and phone controls are in the thumb controlled virtual cockpit screen which is brilliant and has been for years.
      I’m genuinely interested what it is people are doing to be constantly messing about with touchscreens. Most of the commands are set up screens rather than on the move. Interested to hear how you use the MMI.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 Před rokem +21

    I personally prefer the look of the Sport to the new full-fat RR, especially the rear lights. But then taste is a personal thing and I also like round dials as the default for the driver display. As for the 'handbrake', it works so seemlessly in its normal automatic mode I've never even looked for it.

  • @edwinpeterhigginson8448

    Hi Harry, from New Zealand. Love your reviews - many thanks.

  • @dinkyduffy4458
    @dinkyduffy4458 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant review Harry. Thanks

  • @Tristanbirdyt
    @Tristanbirdyt Před rokem +3

    I have been waiting for this video thank you Harry really enjoy your videos thank you i like the front but shame about the rear and when you open the boot in the winter your hands will be muddy and you will have to keep cleaning the reg

  • @antonoat
    @antonoat Před rokem +66

    Range Rover Lite maybe? I think it looks ok, looks on the inside also like a nice place to travel. Very glad they've dropped the damn seven seat option which totally ruins the space and practicality of many of it's rival, spare wheel even though a space saver is a massive improvement on a tin of hit and miss foam! Two and a half tons virtually is completely baffling, almost the same as a Luton van! Great review Harry. Despite you and many of us being LR fans would be very interesting if you could grab an Ineos Grenadier for a jaunt! Cheers.

    • @theloneranger2101
      @theloneranger2101 Před rokem +8

      "Range Rover Lite Maybe" ? It's 2.5 Metric Tons!

    • @EvoraGT430
      @EvoraGT430 Před rokem +4

      @@theloneranger2101 The prize for mis-use of the word "Sport" definitely goes to JLR!

    • @Timmayytoo
      @Timmayytoo Před rokem +1

      It feels a bit like the first pass at the Range Rover redesign, but they saw upcoming competitors and decided it wasn't special enough, so they just made it the new Sport instead.

    • @raheeb1
      @raheeb1 Před rokem +3

      ?? What’s wrong with the prior gen’s 3rd row option when it comes to space?

  • @philiplewis7252
    @philiplewis7252 Před rokem +1

    Great video,as always. Thank you Harry. I really like the styling of these new Range Rovers,both the Sport and the full size model. Very stylish SUV to my eyes.

  • @happysporran
    @happysporran Před rokem +3

    Excellent review, I totally agree, and yet my neighbour has one on his drive and I have to admit, it looks rather good!

  • @5ebra1
    @5ebra1 Před rokem +9

    great review again Harry but I hate the false vents, lack of real switches, over- sized wheels and tyres and the sheer size and price of it.

  • @guyosborne2696
    @guyosborne2696 Před rokem +16

    Thanks Harry, interesting review. Can you try and do one with one of the new PHEV powertrains on either the full fat Rangy or the Sport? Interested to see how this new one would compare with your Range Rover

  • @Cookingitalianwithjoe
    @Cookingitalianwithjoe Před 6 měsíci +3

    On my 3rd RRS. Absolutely love them. The full size way too big. Love the sporty feel. Tightness of drive. Speed. Look. Feel. Also have a velar for the wife. She loves it!!! After 4 RR only had one small issue electrical with the control unit. Quick repair. Other than that oil changes every 3500 miles. Use 0w-30 only. Change Drain and fill transmission fluid at 40k.
    Have had a fantastic experience always.
    Will get the new RRS on second or third year always just to have them work
    Out any kinks.
    Thank you Harry! Love the videos! On this one I prefer the Sport! Thank you 🙏

    • @garsimmulholland4984
      @garsimmulholland4984 Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for this I’ve been looking for one to replace my cayenne….went electric blue svr. Superb!!

  • @BillyNoMates1974
    @BillyNoMates1974 Před rokem +76

    Does anyone think Range Rover have bothered to make the UK's most unreliable car more reliable ?
    would be an improvement to get it off the bottom of the list of most unreliable cars from 0 to 3 years old

    • @deenoc3622
      @deenoc3622 Před rokem +18

      There was a recent report that their yearly warrenty claims and repairs under warrenty went down from £1.2 billion to £800mil. So progress is being made, albeit slowly.
      Still the worst reliability scores in the industry.

    • @Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat
      @Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat Před rokem +9

      They sell cars to people that upgrade to the next one every year or sell em soon after what’s the point! 😂

    • @BillyNoMates1974
      @BillyNoMates1974 Před rokem +1

      @@Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat second and third owners id say

    • @dutoitm1
      @dutoitm1 Před rokem +9

      @@deenoc3622 porsche were worst last year in reliability.

    • @NotUrDJ
      @NotUrDJ Před rokem +2

      @@Jeffgordonfan24hesthegoat and that's why they're unreliable. Nobody really keeps up the maintenance

  • @BobTheBlue
    @BobTheBlue Před rokem +42

    Harry, Land Rover should remain 100% “hooked” on its off road capability. It’s their USP and is amazing

    • @markwood7045
      @markwood7045 Před rokem

      Well said sir.

    • @brunoultra7215
      @brunoultra7215 Před rokem

      Still struggles in snow 🤣
      Proof:
      czcams.com/users/shortsSsHNM32GGSQ?feature=share

    • @BobTheBlue
      @BobTheBlue Před rokem

      @@brunoultra7215 you’re not doing it right lad! 😂

  • @stevebez9556
    @stevebez9556 Před rokem +13

    What on earth is wrong with round dials?

    • @Bob-nu3xe
      @Bob-nu3xe Před rokem

      Harry wants to re invent the wheel lol

  • @morganthedruid1
    @morganthedruid1 Před rokem

    This video is getting amazing views, well done Harry

  • @Snickers4211
    @Snickers4211 Před rokem +5

    Thanks Harry for the great content!😊

  • @douglasbooth6836
    @douglasbooth6836 Před rokem +4

    I hate the false stuff manufacturers put in their cars. At the front especially, let make the car have more drag and add weight. The material on the doors, great to clean once your kids have got there sticky hands on it.
    Def change the tyres first. Front spoiler is no no for me too.
    I still love found dials. I don’t need a tachometer though. I don’t believe anyone uses them.
    My problem with the flatscreen is it’s like it’s added on rather than in the dash.
    We all know Range Rover and sport don’t go together.

  • @ericcissoko1280
    @ericcissoko1280 Před rokem

    Thx for your review & opinion Harry

  • @AlfaGTA156
    @AlfaGTA156 Před rokem +44

    Nice. So I’m guessing the top of the range has the option of fitting tank tracks and a turret and for an extra £50000 you can add and extra 3 tonnes for stabilisation and plough through all the other peasants on the road.

    • @markwright3161
      @markwright3161 Před rokem +2

      No, this is Land Rover. £50'000 is far too reasonable a price tag for that option. I think they want £250'000 for that :)

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl Před 4 měsíci

      No,that's Tesla model X you're talking about.

  • @Reko_89
    @Reko_89 Před rokem

    I love my Defender! Great review as always!!

  • @Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj

    I was waiting for you to review the new sport. This is cause your reviews are always THE BEST. Please carry on doing reviews of premium cars.

  • @nicholasfletcher4795
    @nicholasfletcher4795 Před rokem +8

    hi harry another great review . cars are getting so expensive honestly do you really think the price of that range rover is worth it ? keep up the good work ,

  • @nigel8247
    @nigel8247 Před rokem +59

    About as attractive as a house brick…

    • @AlfaGTA156
      @AlfaGTA156 Před rokem +8

      Totally agrees. It’s 2.5 tonnes of turd.

    • @SeaJayBelfast
      @SeaJayBelfast Před rokem +7

      Agreed. I hate every single angle, especially the rear which is so damn bluff.

    • @stevena9305
      @stevena9305 Před rokem

      In contrast - I love it!

    • @arjanpetersen
      @arjanpetersen Před rokem

      Not really

  • @Stevo8
    @Stevo8 Před rokem +2

    Saw one the other day in a showroom next to an Evoque, the back end is virtually identical shape just bigger.
    As a matter of interest I once weighed my Range Rover L322 TD6 that tipped the scales at 2760kg

  • @vanlifenomad
    @vanlifenomad Před rokem

    Great video H. For me I've owned and always loved the big V8 Classic petrol RR or later l322 TDV8.

  • @martinboulden4388
    @martinboulden4388 Před rokem +9

    Awesome video by Harry but this is a total chav footballers car driven by houses wives in gym gear ! Fake air vents and fake noise says it all !

    • @frankcooper7223
      @frankcooper7223 Před rokem +1

      You're probably correct but as that is the demographic who have the money the marketing department style it to sell to them. Would you make the design unappealing to its core market?

    • @martinboulden4388
      @martinboulden4388 Před rokem

      @@frankcooper7223 Can’t argue with that answer Frank ! I would take a Defender over the Sport !

  • @davesmith60
    @davesmith60 Před rokem +5

    Still got the dual shark fin aerials on the roof. From Halfords in the 1990's

  • @2bunphettered788
    @2bunphettered788 Před rokem

    Good analysis and review Harry. 👍

  • @jeppejunker1528
    @jeppejunker1528 Před rokem

    I’m with you on the rear lights, I just think of discovery sport when I see them, where as the Rangerovers lights look great. And special.

  • @meirionrhys3786
    @meirionrhys3786 Před rokem +9

    Didnt think 2.5t was much different to the previous generations so a quick root around on the web suggests L320 was 2460 to 2645kg, 2nd generation was around 200 kilos lighter.
    A friend recently weighed their 2005 defender 110 td5 station wagon at 2.125!

    • @markwright3161
      @markwright3161 Před rokem +1

      Those were body on frame. That's where the weight came from. This new one didn't return to a frame, so an on frame equivalent/version of it would probably be 3 tonnes.

  • @ronniewilson6597
    @ronniewilson6597 Před rokem +6

    If the Range Rover sport is 2.5ton, how heavy is a standard Range Rover. Great video ‘H’ 👍🏻😀

  • @philedwards7174
    @philedwards7174 Před rokem +1

    Great review and first of many I have read that has given criticism. I have a Velar p300 and have test driven the new p440e Sport. I must say in terms of luxury the new Sport is fantastic. The P440e does provide about 60 e miles, which is okay, but if the bulk was less it could have n 90 miles.
    I really agree with Harry, we need to drive down weight to incease efficiency, perhaps the SUV is doomed.
    My criticism is that my dealer quoted me a 2 year wait for delivery. This compounded by a £20,000+ Mark up on a used new Sport.
    No new Range Rover for me. I'll keep the p300 Velar.
    Thank you Harry.

  • @donalgildea934
    @donalgildea934 Před rokem +1

    Love your videos @harrysgarage but please, please, please adjust your Goodwood festival posters so that they are all hanging at the same height!!!!
    Will gladly pop round to rectify if you wish 😅

  • @simonyapp
    @simonyapp Před rokem +9

    It just represents all that is wrong with this world, it says or shouts that the owner does not give a dam about anyone or anything outside, nor do they really know what to do with there cash!
    And it looks so angry from the front.
    ( also noted, H didn’t take it off road)

    • @rogerwatt3154
      @rogerwatt3154 Před rokem +2

      Couldn't agree more.

    • @JohnJohnson-xm2mu
      @JohnJohnson-xm2mu Před rokem

      As a rrs owner,I can tell you,you couldn’t be more wrong.plz don’t tar everyone with the same brush

  • @alexmaddox2255
    @alexmaddox2255 Před rokem +4

    The rear looks poor, what is that small cut out for the hidden exhaust, it's not befitting of a 100,000 grand car.

  • @billkeaveney1526
    @billkeaveney1526 Před rokem +2

    Thanks Harry, i think it's getting to close to the regular RR in price, i have never liked the silly half windows.

  • @lezzgp
    @lezzgp Před rokem

    Hey Mr. M. You could use that boot thingy as a bit of a seatie if you get after market cushions. That’s what I’d do anyway.

  • @Jay-ww4ru
    @Jay-ww4ru Před rokem +34

    Saw one in the flesh one day. I have to say I prefer the look of the past two generations more than the new one. Also, the MSRP of this gen is much higher than the last one. (At least in Canada, 3.0 SE is about the same price as MY19 5.0 SC HSE)

    • @paddymuppy
      @paddymuppy Před rokem

      Stay clear of British made cars. The most unreliable in the world.
      Complete garbage.

    • @Jay-ww4ru
      @Jay-ww4ru Před rokem

      @@paddymuppy Knock on British Aluminium. No issue so far.

  • @West4ea
    @West4ea Před rokem +5

    The front and rear look odd. Not awful but not quite right.
    The front has the lights being to skinny and then a wide empty bumper before the lower part with another bumper and the number plate looking like it’s slid down the car.
    The back again the plate is too low the tailgate curves round with no bumper or any sort of styling

  • @jonescharly2544
    @jonescharly2544 Před rokem +1

    from Africa, kenya and love the reviews

  • @simonbarnes9600
    @simonbarnes9600 Před rokem

    Excellent as always, Ineos Grenadier test?

  • @dekkb
    @dekkb Před rokem +3

    Pretty much sums up the issues I have with JLR products at the moment. They all seem a bit bloated, expensive and want to occupy the same piece of the market.

  • @rossross8224
    @rossross8224 Před rokem +6

    had a Range Rover svr from new 2 years old now , was thinking about buying the new one , but after driving the jaguar f pace svr drives way better sounds amazing so ive ordered one yesterday in black . :))

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  Před rokem +6

      You're enjoy next week's video then. You made the right choice..

    • @rossross8224
      @rossross8224 Před rokem

      @@harrysgarage can't wait , maybe you can help me with the spec , think ive got it right black ,heads up display , tow bar for my bikes

  • @thedrivebygg
    @thedrivebygg Před rokem +1

    Great video Harry, hate to say it prefer the looks of the Velor.

  • @VinderGroup3
    @VinderGroup3 Před rokem +1

    LR I think have lost their way a bit, the RR SPORT and the RR from 2013 onwards until this whole new look were just fabulous to look at. This new sport with that gap between grill and number plate along with the cheap plastic lights at the rear on this and the RR are naff. I’m sure lots of built in improvements but sorry for me the RR from 2016 until last year were brilliant and lopes class but now I’m not convinced. Thanks though Harry love your vids!

  • @wernerengel4919
    @wernerengel4919 Před rokem +5

    I quite like round dials Harry 😊

  • @svenschulz5130
    @svenschulz5130 Před rokem +3

    Have a Defender D300 and have the same issues with the sound - it's sounds good, but also a little weird "artificial"...

  • @gertguhl8429
    @gertguhl8429 Před rokem +2

    Nice review Harry! Thumbs up! But i expected you will test the P510e to compare with the BMW X5 45e? Perhaps later?😊

  • @michealofloinn2539
    @michealofloinn2539 Před rokem +25

    How big are cars going to get until they start to reduce in size again. Crazy.

    • @meady200
      @meady200 Před rokem +5

      The maddest thing is the trend started in America where at least the roads have room. What the heck do you do in thing like this in the UK when Waze takes you down one of those 5 foot wide country lanes it loves so much?

    • @bergeracvandamme
      @bergeracvandamme Před rokem

      Don't worry, if the forced transition to EVs is allowed to continue then in less than a decade most people won't even be able to own a car anyway.

    • @DidesCharlie
      @DidesCharlie Před rokem

      @@bergeracvandamme Oooh, edgy!

    • @Bob-nu3xe
      @Bob-nu3xe Před rokem

      oddly how we are changing to EVs these vehicles will weigh in at 3 tons + with carbon foot prints as big has Bigfoot lol

  • @johnmoncrieff3034
    @johnmoncrieff3034 Před rokem +2

    I would be interested to find out what the cost of all the electronics are, also the weight of them in the 2.5 tons! Other than the electronic fuel injection could it perform just as well if all the electronics were manually controlled! This looks almost as big as an Escalade!

  • @ydnallah1541
    @ydnallah1541 Před rokem +13

    You’ll make new friends owning a Range Rover……mostly AA recovery workers or the guys at the tracker company when it gets nicked, but still, new friends 😂

  • @thomascole9308
    @thomascole9308 Před rokem +5

    I’ve been waited patiently for this review.
    I have driven one and do agree with your summary.
    I was expecting you to love it.
    I’d be interested to here your thoughts on the P440e given how well you got on with the X5 45e

    • @SvenTheSveed
      @SvenTheSveed Před rokem

      The X5 is still miles ahead. Only Volvo come close to it in terms of hybrid ability.

  • @thetechsite9619
    @thetechsite9619 Před rokem

    love that you talked about the digital motor sound at 1337 o'clock.

  • @iancharlton678
    @iancharlton678 Před rokem +1

    Love the brand…… from my Slla ex MOD on 900-16 bar treads……. my mates vinyl lined 2 door Rangey…… many many more since…….
    33 years of moving them on recovery lorries has made me a decent living…… still admiring but not buying……. Owning…. G wagons, Amazons and my still pristine XC90 D5 SE
    When the first Disco landed with a big crash, courtesy of its monocoque body on a box chassis, we winced at the weight for carrying them……. then the reclothed Disco AKA Range Rover Sport appeared, thuggishly pounding out the ruts and straining my trucks yet further……… eventually, the replacement went proper monocoque architecture and became easier to move (and move them we did)……. Only to creep on up again, as you stated….. 😳
    Most of our contracted rates have an adjustment for kerbweight and/or GVW…… now, I know they are far from unique in the premium SUV world, but Good God !! They are treated as commercial.
    We see many people yomping up the road with Range Rover models on 4 wheel trailers… behind vans and other SUV’s, clearly oblivious to the safety and legality of such actions……🙁
    As you say Harry….. too many models 🙁
    To me, the Evoque has a place……. the Defender should be the Discovery……. the Velour is pointless (as pointless as the Disco is ugly 🙂)…… the Disco Sport should be an Evoque GT or ?, the Range Rover as is, as it is a lovely thing and one we now rarely see at work - which is a good thing.
    Maybe you’re onto something with a “mad as a fish” sports thing, tauter, lighter, ridiculously overpowered - the sort of thing Tim Burton would have in lime green 🥳
    Then…….. and most importantly……. A LANDROVER
    Utility spec, dry, draught free, enough driver seat room for an adult, simple, robust……. No electric version - save a hybrid, no gimmicks… steel wheels, decent tyres, coil springs, manual box with no more than 5 gears, 3500kg towing
    And CHEAP 🏁🇬🇧
    The Landrover ruled the world…… then, like they say in Australia…… if you want to drive into the outback, get a Landrover……. if you want to drive back……. get a Landcruiser……
    Time to redress the balance 🙂🇬🇧

  • @highlandmalt6368
    @highlandmalt6368 Před rokem +8

    Automotive equivalent of designer sports gear.

  • @howardlake6178
    @howardlake6178 Před rokem +4

    Great video! A friend, who has a business called Harry’s, ordered one in Firenza Red. Which, I’m certain this one is, but he has 22k of options 😳a P430, hybrid Autobiography. When I told a Facebook friend who works at a Range Rover dealership, she said, ‘that’s nothing. A bloke came in last week and order 2 Range Rovers, for £200k each’ 😳

    • @jak493
      @jak493 Před rokem +2

      If you go in the configurator, there isn’t £20k of options available as they are fully loaded. What did he get for £20k, a butler?

    • @howardlake6178
      @howardlake6178 Před rokem +1

      @@jak493 I struggled to get the full list of 22k out of him, in front of his partner, who is horrified, but the last 5 grand of 22k, I think was SEVEN point FIVE k, of wheels. No wonder, Kahn, Revere, Urban, and Overfinch have found a market 😂I got to 17k, of what he said, and then had to fudge the last 5k with the wheel options 😳

  • @avidpix
    @avidpix Před rokem +1

    Great video as ever…..but no field test..🤨….I know, I know, it would probably cause too much damage to the grass, given the conditions

  • @Terraceview
    @Terraceview Před rokem

    The Discovery 2 with the 7 seat option was already 2.3 tons, but I get where you're going. They should be getting lighter.

  • @andiscott8470
    @andiscott8470 Před rokem +3

    I like the new RR Sport. We test drove one last week (looking at the engine performance for RR purchase, and the demonstrator Sport had the engine we are considering), and I was very pleasantly surprised by the Sport in general. Didn't feel as heavy as it is in terms of handling.

    • @__GarbageTime420
      @__GarbageTime420 Před rokem

      Hello have you been listed on my inventory?

    • @Itsharry12391
      @Itsharry12391 Před 8 měsíci

      I’ve just taken delivery of my Range Rover 2023, tried the sport but get the bigger one it’s much better. Prefer it over my new defender

  • @GhulamAli-hg5jj
    @GhulamAli-hg5jj Před rokem +3

    Can't fault your logic Mr. Metcalfe, 100k for a Sport? Nope. Great video

  • @EleanorPeterson
    @EleanorPeterson Před rokem +1

    7:50 - Some idle musing on the 'round dial versus square screen' display issue... There's a split-second data-recognition advantage in having round dials/circular displays.
    When our eyes see a dial, the information is either centred (digital display in the middle) or positional (needle pointing to known numeral locations around the face). A circle naturally guides the mind to what's important. We don't need to think about where to look - we just react to what we're being 'forced' to see.
    Wristwatches usually have round faces with analogue hands. We see the time - instantly - we don't read it. A digital display, however, requires thought. Seeing the time instead of reading it is the equivalent of learned muscle-memory when playing guitar chords. The shapes just happen, faster than you can think.
    On a car dashboard that means our eyes focus instantly on the required data in the circle before flicking back to the road.
    With a rectangular display - especially a digital screen - we're conditioned to see it as a page. Childhood conditioning runs deep. However limited the amount of data on show, we can't help but concentrate on checking everything, starting from the top-left corner just in case there's something new.
    In guitar terms, it's like having to think, "First finger goes here... Second finger, there; third goes over there..."
    That's way too slow for rock 'n' roll.
    Glancing at a modern car's rectangular digital speedo, even when we know that there's no more than a speed in mph to be seen, we naturally spend an extra tiny fraction of a second checking the rest of the 'page' for fresh information.
    We can't help it. It's how we were raised.
    A few microseconds may seem unimportant, but in this instance, thinking is bad. Thinking of where to look takes our focus off the really important part of what we're doing, which is driving. In traffic. Surrounded by idiots. Idiots who are also thinking about the wrong things, rather than relying on their faster-than-thought reflexes to respond to the right ones.
    Yes, the time differences involved are ridiculously small, but they exist. Today's drivers have more than enough distractions already - countless gadgets and toys, controls and settings, touch-screens, digital navigation maps, media menus, phones - and they're being operated from an air-conditioned, heated armchair (with shiatsu massage function🙄) by a driver who's all warm and snug and cosy and probably barely awake.
    So a round dial that takes less time to read than a square one is... good. A driver who prefers to take things easy, relax, slow everything down, take plenty of time to read the dashboard display(s) because it'd be rude not to is... bad.
    Your views may differ...💩👀

  • @charliehmi76
    @charliehmi76 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nothing wrong with round dials.. I always try out the options on the digital dashes of the various cars I drive, but guess which one I always end up going back to.... Just easy to read at a glance.

  • @lefuedebout
    @lefuedebout Před rokem +3

    Interesting and informative video, as usual. Re. the price tax of 100k+, from where I'm sitting that looks like a bargain. It's presently impossible to find a Sport on offer in Europe for less than 200k Euro, which is a lot more than 100k sterling! 😞

    • @phillipweissburg1882
      @phillipweissburg1882 Před rokem +2

      I bought my 1800 sq foot home for $75k.....a fraction of what this car costs....to most people...over $100,000 pounds is a lot to spend on a ride.

  • @martinshepherd6756
    @martinshepherd6756 Před rokem +9

    Interesting review. It sort of feels like RRS has lost its way a bit. The styling is a bit of a mishmash, it's put on weight so has comprised the handling, and has lost some of its edge compared to full fat RR.

  • @Phil-1
    @Phil-1 Před rokem +1

    Had 2006 and 2011 RRS (supercharged petrol). Loved them both - luxurious, spacious, an absolute joy to drive and not prohibitive to buy at used prices. Not keen on the looks of this one though - too bland. Looks too much like the Discovery too. Shame. Hopefully they'll give it a facelift & give it some more character in a couple of years.

  • @stayclassydetroit1
    @stayclassydetroit1 Před rokem

    We have a 2020 RR Sport with 13k miles and a slow, undiagnosed, radiator fluid leak and there’s a 2+ month wait for service at every dealership in Michigan.

  • @Robjess100
    @Robjess100 Před rokem +4

    Another cracker - thanks Harry. Love the honesty. It does look like a confused dogs dinner.

  • @jamessheehy4895
    @jamessheehy4895 Před rokem +3

    Really not sure about it but still get excited when i see one like a new Porsche or something!
    Also please review that F50 already wondered if it came with the shoes!?

  • @struancochrane753
    @struancochrane753 Před rokem

    Harry, brilliant review once again. Almost goes without saying. Do you feel Land Rover are slightly stretched across their range, Range Rover, RR sport, RR Velar,RR evoque, Discovery, Disco Sport, Land Rover defender? There seems to be a fair amount of cross over across their range. Maybe time to drop the sports models? And concentrate on a slimmer range. To me the full blown RR is now way beyond most people. The highest Discovery models are very plush and perhaps sit in the niche now. The new defender is far more like the Discovery was up to model 4. The Evoque could cover the Sport market. I am a big fan of the mark, I have 2 of their range.

  • @Rickwardful
    @Rickwardful Před 4 měsíci

    I have come back to this video as Harry has now got one instead of the full fat RR.
    I do wish manufacturers would get rid of the what looks like a lap-top screen that is slapped into the cabin, rather than be more integrated within it.
    This RRS does look pretty again, but I’ll be sticking to my L320, which was very pretty and has absolutely everything I need apart from youth.

  • @rpm773
    @rpm773 Před rokem +23

    The "mini-boot" is a nice touch. I'd love to find something functionally similar (ie, fold-away when not in use) for my vehicle.

    • @hectorkidds9840
      @hectorkidds9840 Před rokem +10

      I use a banana box, free from Tesco, all in I've saved about £98k I think

    • @rotatoryrotisserie3619
      @rotatoryrotisserie3619 Před rokem +10

      Volvo have been doing it for years 😉

    • @darylclifford
      @darylclifford Před rokem

      @@hectorkidds9840 Hector, he said ‘foldaway!’ You’ll need to add some hinges to the banana box and deduct a few pennies 😮

    • @4Kandlez
      @4Kandlez Před rokem

      There's all sorts of wonderful things you can buy in any decent car accessory establishment

    • @pelocitdarney5718
      @pelocitdarney5718 Před rokem

      They copied the Qashqai!

  • @richardchandler6976
    @richardchandler6976 Před rokem +3

    I don't agree with you about round dials. They are so much easier to read at a glance. If it ain't broke......

  • @willardr100
    @willardr100 Před rokem +1

    As someone who progressed from Sport to Range Rover, I have to say I can’t imagine going back. Back in 2010 when I ordered my first Sport the full fat was £20k more and I simply couldn’t afford that additional cost back then. The fact they are still only £20k more shows how that price difference has shrunk. But the image, the feel difference with Sport vs full fat? Full fat is leaps better both in L405 and L460 versions and part of me is baffled why anyone would buy the Sport apart from willing to compromise image and features vs price.

  • @DanielSadjadian
    @DanielSadjadian Před rokem +1

    Could you review the SVR version when that comes out? Since this is not that dynamic and fun as you mentioned, perhaps the SVR will offer everything that's missing on this version with it's BMW V8/etc....

  • @macpdm
    @macpdm Před rokem +3

    I think staying with round dials is just LR trying not to depart too far from what is expected from a Range Rover. And upsetting it’s core customers. Personally I still like a round dial. And I would love to own one of these. And yes I would have the diesel. I’m Just not ready for electric.

  • @axioms22
    @axioms22 Před rokem +5

    rich suburban moms gonna love this 😂

  • @Knezicdex
    @Knezicdex Před rokem +2

    They should start taxing based on weight as well! I can imagine the stress on the road surface when this tanks hits the breaks at 130kmh+

  • @paulk3681
    @paulk3681 Před rokem +1

    I wonder what this car would have been like on smaller wheels with a bit more tyre. I had a CMax. I hated the drive. It had overly large wheels with silly profile tyres. Also a rundown of the prices of the range would have been useful

  • @Tennisisreallyfun
    @Tennisisreallyfun Před rokem +30

    I’m sorry, but what is the matter with the designers? I like the front splitter (well splitter-esque, at least) piece of equipment and the vents on the hood and the sides. But do they really have to be just for decoration? Would it have killed them to make them functional? I mean, that’s always been a pet peeve of mine to see things like that or exhaust pipes being purely for decoration.

    • @brianiswrong
      @brianiswrong Před rokem

      I have never understood why car designers ,design a dummy vent (especially in or around the font grill) and not either have it body colour and solid, or black and add a couple of small (useless if you like) to atleast look functional.

    • @red00eye
      @red00eye Před rokem +2

      Do you like burning more fuel or not?
      Open vents = drag

    • @mra9085
      @mra9085 Před rokem +4

      Yes, I'm with you, and can we just talk about the rear as well? It's just a lump of tall, boxy metal with nothing really going for it. You'd think it were a van if it didn't have Range Rover written on it!

    • @warren_r
      @warren_r Před rokem +3

      Keep in mind that many of Range Rover's customers have lots of fake bits attached to them, too.

    • @mrcomment5544
      @mrcomment5544 Před rokem

      What is dumber? Fake vents or people complaining about fake vents?

  • @neillangdale829
    @neillangdale829 Před rokem +10

    Nice video Harry.
    I think it's a bit bland looking 👍

  • @hanstenhagen7808
    @hanstenhagen7808 Před rokem

    657 responses so far! I test-drove the hybrid 6 cilinder petrol 2 weeks ago. Don't like the new Range Rover that much: Designwise brilliant, all the hype I will pass on. Plus it's too big. The Sport...loved it! Exactly what I want, so ordered one on the spot. Looks are so so...rest of the car...all you need in life besides love and good health. It makes you happy.

  • @xeode
    @xeode Před rokem +1

    seems like a chunky boy, hopefully that means it's capable off road now it's not just a tall focus! any guesses why the passenger seat belt was clipped in, was something sat in the seat that made the seatbelt alarm come on?

  • @andrewmain8022
    @andrewmain8022 Před rokem +6

    Ask a pilot why round dials are easy to read, and then you'll know why they use them. Great review thanks.

  • @gordonsimpson3235
    @gordonsimpson3235 Před rokem +3

    Its the Sports image which puts me off....it is usually driven by complete prats. Wouldn't want to be associated with that.
    Its also not a pretty vehicle...its a lump. So dumpy that 22" wheels don't look big - remember the original Range Rover had 16" wheels which looked quite big at the time!
    The original Sport was quite sharp looking and not too big.
    The price is also obscene.

  • @ED-zc2um
    @ED-zc2um Před rokem

    I look forward to your review of the new 3.0l Petrol straight 6 Phev model. You gave rave reviews of the previous 2.0l 4-cylinder petrol Phev model, which I thought was really disappointing with its meager 2.0l 4-cylinder petrol engine. The 3.0l petrol straight 6 engine paired to the elec motor in the new model phev sport is superbly smooth with sweet notes. Will you be reviewing this soon? E

  • @reddcocker64
    @reddcocker64 Před rokem

    Good review. I'm in agreement that fake vents are silly. I don't understand why trucks come with gigantic center consoles. Bring back a split bench option to allow the driver to slide in and out via the passenger's door. Also, my dog likes to sit in the front seat between my wife and I.