Yes, but it depends on how you mean that. We are not under the Mosaic law, so we don’t have to keep the literal Saturday Sabbath, but we still keep the sabbath by resting from our works and doing the works God prepared for us beforehand (aka taking His yoke upon us).
@@archewing did God change when he told Adam and Eve the only command was to not eat from the tree of good and evil to keep the Ten Commandments? Does this mean God changed? No it didn’t.
Why did God do away with the covenant He made with Adam and Eve? Or how about with Noah and Abraham before the OT law was even given? Are you saying God changed then?
@@archewing really? So Noah and Abraham you’re saying we’re under the Law of Moses before it was even given? How then they be under that law before it was even given? Were the Native Americans under US law back in the 1500’s?
@@archewing really? So Abraham held to all the 613 Mosaic commandments before they even existed? I would love to know how you could hold to a law that didn’t even exist.
Simple. We must keep the commandments of God! Did you watch the whole video? I addressed what the commandments of God are - “And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.” I John 3:23 NKJV
You have explained what it does not mean, or just showed the wrong interpretation. Can I ask what is in your opinion the right interpretation of Matthew 5:17-18?
God-willing I may do a video on this brother. But as I alluded to in the video, we are still under law, just not the law of Moses. We are now under a new and better covenant, or the law of Christ as it says in Galatians. Jesus was the fulfillment of the law, or He filled it up and gave it true meaning. Therefore when Paul says does the law not tell you not to muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain, he says this means in the New Covenant we are to support financially those who labor in the word - “For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.”” I Timothy 5:18 NKJV This is the TRUE meaning of that law. With everything in the Old Testament there is a fulfillment or realization of it in the New. We don’t do sacrifices as far as sacrificing bulls and goats, but what do we do instead? “Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.” Hebrews 13:15-16 NKJV
Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. That movement may want to read what is written in Galatians 3:10 about what happens to those who become cursed for continuing not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.
So did God lie when he said that everyone that keeps his commands shall be cursed and those that disobey shall be cursed? Would Jesus “The Word”contradict the Father? Why do people teach observing Torah is bad? Especially, if someone wants to live like their Messiah.
@@girardedward No Those who obey the whole law will not be cursed those who break and transgress the law and continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them become cursed.
Love is the fulfillment of the law. That passage says it all. This is so good, praise the Lord! Thank you for addressing this issue, Adam. This issue has been a point of contention between me and my Torah-keeping Christian friends, who are always trying to persuade me to join their community so they can teach me their ways. I've been declining their invitation, and when I give my reasons, they always come up with this or that passage to back their beliefs. It grieves my heart that it's causing tension and division among believers (we are back to the same situation and same issues the apostles faced at the council in Jerusalem). As for the sacrificial laws, they said that the reason they don't keep it anymore is because Christ fulfilled the ultimate sacrifice / atonement by dying on the cross for our sins. So they're not really rejecting Christ's sacrifice. But like you said, they have categorized the law into moral, sacrificial and ceremonial. It's the ceremonial laws they're mostly trying to get people to adhere to (feasts and sabbaths). God bless you! Keep doing what you do. This channel has been such a blessing.
No, unfortunately they are indeed rejecting Christ’s sacrifice. Hebrews says there is no other sacrifice for sins - not bulls, goats, or anything else. The Bible makes it clear going back to these things CUT YOU OFF FROM CHRIST!!! This is serious. “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.” Galatians 5:4 NKJV “You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.” Galatians 4:10-11 NKJV
@@dropdeadpinkkk there are a lot of very sweet Mormons too. I have met several, and they are the nicest people I’ve known. Doesn’t mean they are saved and have the right gospel and the right Jesus.
Do you believe that those who follow Hebrew Roots are genuinely saved? I had a friend who recently passed away who followed this devoutly and used the Sacred Name, etc. He actually said that there was no salvation in the name of Jesus. I am wondering if he made it to Heaven. Thank you in advance.
@@karadejesus1690 God is the judge, but it doesn’t sound like he was walking in the light. I think they are just like the Galatians. Those who have fully bought into this and embraced it are cut off from Christ. Those who might just be confused and don’t know any better because they haven’t heard or haven’t had the knowledge I believe these people fall into Romans 14.
Adam, with all due respect, upon examining the Bible and New Testament, it is true that the ritual, outside ceremonial laws of the Mosaic Law were all done with, as they do not concern our hearts and they are external. And Jesus already fulfilled the sacrifices part. However, we True Believers are still to follow the Moral laws of the Mosaic law, because these concern our hearts. For instance, we are not to commit sexual immorality and idolatry and avoid these. These are in the Ten Commandments, do not commit adultery (even in your heart), do not covet, do not have any other gods beside Him, do not murder in your heart. So the moral laws of the Mosaic law, we have to obey them still... Love includes avoiding these sins. There is no dichotomy. We follow these Moral laws out of Love, as empowered by the Holy Spirit. Any thoughts Adam?
I guess the 10 commandments don't apply either because Jesus fulfilled the law. Also you never hear them say that tithing doesn't apply anymore because Jesus fulfilled the law.
I’m so tired of you Judiazers coming on here and commenting without even watching the video. Watch the video! You look foolish as I said in the video we very much are still under law. Go back and watch!
Exodus 5:7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves. Matthew 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
I’ve watched a few of your videos and I’m curious what your definition of sin is? In the last video I watched you talked about how we are not to sin. How do we know what sin is without the law? Genuinely curious how you define it. ❤
Sin is transgression of the law as 1 John states. The question is - WHICH law? The law of Moses? The law Adam and Eve had to not eat of the fruit of the tree? No! The law of Christ!!! “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.” Galatians 6:2 NKJV “to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;” I Corinthians 9:21 NKJV So clear for those who have the ears to hear it. Paul clearly makes a distinction between the law of Christ and the law of Moses, so they CANNOT be the same!
@@abideintheWord ok -so we have to bear one another’s burdens? Thats the whole of the law? I’m curious because I have wrestled with this ALOT! And like you say HR people don’t have an answer for you to some of your questions. I have the same problem. So you’re saying all we have to do is bear one another’s burdens and that’s it? Is there more?
Note it says “…. till all be FULFILLED!” To fulfill the law is not the same thing as obeying it. Jesus says he came to FULFILL the law. How many times did legalistic adherents accuse Jesus of not obeying the law by “ breaking the sabbath” for example; or accusing him of “eating with publicans and sinners”. (Does this mean Jesus ate what gentiles served him; like bacon?) Again, this passage says “fulfill”. The law is not fulfilled in obedience to its letter.
Not sure what you are saying, but if you are saying we are still under law I don’t know how Romans 7 could possibly make it any more clear we are DEAD to the law, and Paul states this law is the Ten Commandments. There is no way around this is if you are going to be honest with the Scriptures?
@@abideintheWord - There's the law of sin and death and than there's the law of Christ. Which the law of Christ comes about as a result of the atonement. Of which the atonement fulfills the law of sin and death; and this is how it delivers one from sin and it's consequences; including death and the judgment of God. Romans 8:2!
@@abideintheWord - The assumption of the people in things like the Hebrew roots movement (or 1st century Judiazers) was that "fulfilling" the law meant obeying the letter of it. Jesus had stated to the legalists that they'd missed the point of the law. "23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." (Matthew 23:22-24) They chose to pay attention to the form it represented and not the meaning behind the form.
1 john chapter 2 is enough to refute the Hebrew/jewsish roots... People are trying to get followers.. they say unless you have a rabbi then you cant Understood what the Bible means... My half brother tried to that one on me to try and claim authority over me...
“Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples 👉after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.” Acts 20:30-31 NKJV “whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of 👉dishonest gain.” Titus 1:11 NKJV
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Those words till all be fulfilled of course God's will will be fulfilled considering so many Bible verses in the Scriptures have already come to pass in these many years since the early church began following the death the burial and the resurrection of Christ Himself from the dead. Its a fact we cannot ignore to be truthful and honest about it.
I’m dealing with a gentleman on the same subject. I tryd showing him acts 15 where Paul appealed to the disciples and elders with James and Peter both giving only a couple of rules for gentiles and even going so far as to write a letter and send others as witnesses They even say they weren’t able to keep the law! But this guy is dead set on keeping the law ….😞
Adam, with all due respect, upon examining the Bible and New Testament, it is true that the ritual, outside ceremonial laws of the Mosaic Law were all done with, as they do not concern our hearts and they are external. And Jesus already fulfilled the sacrifices part. However, we True Believers are still to follow the Moral laws of the Mosaic law, because these concern our hearts. For instance, we are not to commit sexual immorality and idolatry and avoid these. These are in the Ten Commandments, do not commit adultery (even in your heart), do not covet, do not have any other gods beside Him, do not murder in your heart. So the moral laws of the Mosaic law, we have to obey them still... Love includes avoiding these sins. There is no dichotomy. We follow these Moral laws out of Love, as empowered by the Holy Spirit. Any thoughts Adam?
Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Old Testament law is broken up into “ceremonial laws” versus “moral laws”. This is an invention of men that they have made up to put you UNDER The law. Paul is clearly in Romans 7 we are dead to the law and he specifically mentions the command not to covet so yes Paul says we are dead even to the Ten Commandments!
Yes it’s by the Spirit and not by the law! This is how we know if we are being led by the Spirit and not under law - “But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.” Galatians 5:18-26 NKJV
temple construction is nearly complete, ther practicing the opening ceremony , a herd of spotless red cows. Wheres your argument, because soon all those blood spilling rituals are comming back. @@abideintheWord
The Juda izers, or Hebrew roots people, cherry pick the "laws" that most benefit there agenda, which is to have a following, to collect tithes and offerings, to have mind control over peoples faith or rather to keep them in fear of punishment and death, and not to trust in Christ and His sacrifice for all mankinds salvation. Christ freed man from the law of sin and death .What law are we under once we recieve Christ sacrifice for our sin nature? "The law of the spirit of LIfe in Christ Jesus" (Rom 8:2) "Christ IN you, the hope of glory" (Col. 1:27) The law written in our minds(heart) ( Jer. 31:31-34 and Hebrews 10:16) There are many more scriptures that agree with these.One more for a top off: " As in Adam all die, so also in Christ all are made alive" (1 Cor 15:22)
So, I am a Torah keeping Christian. I can’t speak for everyone, but I can say that you misrepresented the beliefs of a good portion of us. Would you be open to a dialogue on this?
You said believing Gods law is good and should be kept starts a cascade of rejecting the scriptures and Christ. Perhaps that is true of some, but not of many. You portray the belief as a faith killer. Personally, my faith has only deepened.
You also make it seem like we think animal sacrifices were/are required for forgiveness of sins. The Old Testament itself doesn’t even teach that. The whole sacrificial system was always a shadow, just as the NT writers and yourself said.
The law was meant to expose sin and be a guardian until Christ came. There are different commandments that are reiterated in the new covenant and taken to a far deeper level, but indeed it is a new covenant that is completely different from the one given on Mount Sinai. And on top of that these commandments are found outside of the ten, and two are the greatest, and one is a new commandment: "Love the Lord God with all your heart soul mind and strength" "Love your neighbor as yourself" But this one surpasses even human ability: "love one another as I have loved you." This commandment shows the heart of the transformative work of the gospel in peoples lives. It goes far beyond anything the ten could do when it is fulfilled. Read the ten. There is not a single command to love in them. That is why the command to love like Christ is surpassingly greater. And if you are found in Christ, you can fullfill the law through that one command: love. This is not an excuse to sin. But if we walk by the spirit, we will not gratify the desires of the flesh, and we can truly love our neighbors, and especially our brothers and sisters in Christ.
The NT is law is different, but it’s really the same. It’s always been to love God with all your heart mind soul and strength and to love others. However, Jesus filled it up to its fullness. The Mosiac law said not to commit adultery, but Jesus said if you even look at a women with lust you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. The OT law was a SHADOW of the things to come - Christ. The OT law wasn’t done away with. No! Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law - rather He came to fill it up! Not many people can accept this, only to whom it is granted by the Father. So now we don’t do animal sacrifices, but we still do sacrifices - “Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.” Hebrews 13:15-16 NKJV They are the manna in the wilderness, but we eat the manna of God’s word and the bread the Spirit gives us. Do you understand these things?
I follow JESUS, completely because I love Him. In fact, I love Him enough to the point where I don’t want to insult Him by trying to continue sacrificing animals when He was the Lamb of God who already took away the sin of the world. As Hebrews says, He was a BETTER sacrifice and the blood of bulls and goats could NEVER take away our sins. Your problem is, you don’t want Jesus to take away all your sins. Do you still sin?
Moral of the story you still have to follow commandments. What your point, what is your focus. Are you saying since Jesus died all we have to do is say we accept Jesus and everything will be ok? We need to know. If you love Jesus youll follow his commandments its that simple why play these back and forth games. And what Bible are you reading from? What is NKJV?
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Who is your friend? Jesus. God is saying deny yourself, pick up the cross and follow him. Know that you have died upon that cross, it is no longer you that live, but Christ in you. The will of the father is to take away the first to establish the second. This means everything from Adam, your past self, your old nature, sin is dead- by faith upon that cross. Because that cross was indeed ours to bear, but Jesus took the punishment- and where there is death for our wages, there is no more punishment for sin. But the accuser and his many minions will try to steal this blessed hope, and put you into bondage. Working all the day long for a righteousness you can't even glimpse by your works. We are to be in rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ. He really did what he came to do, he finished it. So do we go and sin freely so grace abounds? God forbid! Don't be a slave to sin. You've been freed from Egypt. But alas, the journey just begins when you get saved. The wilderness awaits you before you enter into the promised land.
Your post is confusing, but no all punishment has not been taking upon the cross - it is conditional. “But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.” I John 1:7 NKJV
Full disclosure, I am only two and a half minutes into this video. It sounds like you are saying that people trying to keep God's law have to adhere/do all that it contains. Did Jesus keep the laws that were specifically for women? Would you say that He didn't keep God's law perfectly then? The issue is that you are adding stipulations that aren't in any other format of law. Not in the Word, and not even in the corrupt world. Does God expect everyone to buy an orchard or field and plant fruit/veggies just so that we could adhere to the law that says to leave the corners of the field for widows, orphans, and the destitute? Does the U.S. Government expect me to weigh my personal truck at weigh stations because of the laws for commercial truck driving? The point is that God removed the temple so that we couldn't go there anymore. However, Paul still sacrificed while the temple was standing and that was after Christ had ascended to the right hand of the Father. I am not part of Hebrew Roots, but I do my best to keep God's commands. I try to keep all that apply to me? Do I make mistakes? Yes, but thank God for His Salvation that shed His blood so that I could be cleansed. Should we refuse to keep God's commands so that grace may abound? God forbid, Paul says. There are only a few commands that we would probably differ on. Sabbath, of which there is no verse that tells us we can do it how or when we want. It falls under the Love God with all your heart portion, as He set it up as a sign between us and Him. There are a few verses that people can twist to say they don't have to do it, but it's always a matter of interpretation of understanding. Jesus will give us rest. Amen. When He returns, He will set up a 1000 year rest. Just as the Sabbath was on the seventh day, His reign will be the seventh Millennium. Paul says to let no man judge you regarding Sabbaths. Colossians 2:16-17 [16]Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: [17]Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. You have to add a negative connotation to it. Do not let someone judge you for not keeping these things. I add the positive. Do not let someone judge you when you keep these things. This verse has helped me many times when dealing with family and friends. I have been called all kinds of names for keeping Sabbath. Pretend Jew, and Seventh Day Adventist were the nicer accusations. The biblical diet is slightly different. Things taken out of context is where people get permission to eat unclean animals. Peter himself tells us what his vision meant in Acts chapter 10. If that wasn't enough, he recounts all that happened to other men who come to the same conclusion in the next chapter. If pork would have been on the menu, they probably would have said something to that effect. Jesus declaring all foods clean is another case of taking the verse out of context. In Mathew's version, Jesus straight up tells you what He is speaking against at the end. Eating with unwashed hands. Unclean animals are never even mentioned in that narrative. The Pharisees were talking about eating bread without washing the hands in their extrabiblical ceremonial way. The last major difference would be the identity of God's people. Church is an assembly of people, not a people group itself. God has one people. They are currently split into two houses, but will become one in the hand of Messiah. There are references to this all over the Bible, but you will miss it if you don't know the whole council of the Word. Hosea is about the House that was cast out and divorced. God says they are not His people, and He is not their God. Paul talks about this as well. Romans 9:22-26 [22]What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: [23]And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, [24]Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? [25]As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. [26]And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. But if you don't make connections and learn the story then you won't see it. The story of the two houses are all over the Word. It's even in the story of Adam and Eve. One becomes two, then through marriage become one again. Who is the New Covenant made with? It tells us plainly in both testaments. Does that mean we have to be descendants? Read Ephesians 2, and Romans 9-11. You were gentiles before you had God, but now are part of the Commonwealth of Israel. Not by our blood, but by His blood. Grafted in. Adopted. Part of, not replacing. As far as trying to bring people back into bondage. Amen. Bondage to the Master that gave the rules. Paul says that we are a slave to whom we serve.
How about you go back and finish the video. If you won’t have respect enough to watch the entire video before commenting, then why am I going to read your comment?
@@abideintheWord I finished the video right after my comment. No offense, but I don't respect you. If you were asking me to show some respect, I think my comment was much more respectful than what you said about people like me. While you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to twist God's Word to attack His people. You used verses about the Pharisees to slander us, when you are actually teaching things more in line with the Pharisees. You are holding to your doctrine of men over God's Word. You nullify commands by your doctrine. You use cherry picked verses to make it sound as if God changed or cancelled His Sabbath. You twist Paul's words as Peter warns us.
@@AProdigalSonReturned a veil is still over your eyes - “unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” II Corinthians 3:13-17 NKJV
@@abideintheWord Romans 7:1-3 [1]Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? [2]For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. [3]So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. These first three verses have needed context before you move on to declare that we are dead to the whole law. You picked one verse out of four because you could make it line up with your belief. There is context outside of Romans 7 that plays into what Paul is saying there as well. You twist when you say that we cannot keep all of the law as if that is expected. Jesus couldn't keep all of the law either because some laws were specific to women, Levites, farmers, etc. Yet the Bible says he kept God's law perfectly. There are many other examples of what you were doing, or will do if we talk about keeping Sabbath or eating according to the Bible. I was taught to extrapolate meanings when I allowed men to tell me what the Bible says/means. When I started reading it for myself, it said something much different.
Ignorant people should not think they are teachers. What a pathetic work of sophistry 😒You distort Paul's writing to override what Messiah said " If you love ❤️ me obey my commandments "
Yes Jesus says MY commandments, not Moses commandments. You conflate the two by TWISTING Matthew 5 trying to say Jesus’ and Moses commandments were the same! This is demonstrably false! Jesus preached to go into all the world preaching the gospel and baptizing people in the name of the Father Son and the Holy Spirit. Where was that in the Old Testament? Tell you what. If you can show me where this command is found in the OT, we’ll have a convo. But my fear is that you’ll just ignore it like I never even said it and move on to another passage. I hope that’s not the case. Deal with this!
Ok cool....then as we drive through different cities, that have different laws, some of which dont/can't apply to us , ..we can throw out their entire set of penal codes and laws ...all or nothing....sounds legit..
You clearly didn’t watch the whole video. I talk about how we are still under law. Please go back and watch. So sad when people are quick to speak and slow to listen.
Interesting how they leveled the exact same accusation against Paul in his day! “What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!” Romans 6:15 NKJV
Perhaps a mistake on my part. I may have intended to reply to another video. My overarching point is that I haven't encountered a single person in the Torah observant movement that was motivated by personal achievement of salvation through observation of the law. What I have seen is a people motivated by pure gratitude of salvation from Yeshua and a subsequent eagerness to please the Father who made it possible. Obedience to Torah is reciprocal love to the best of our ability in a fallen world.
This is so easy to refute. The practice of animal sacrifice ended when the perfect sacrifuce was made. The veil of the temple on which the blood of sacrificed animals was sprinkled was rent in two. Its amusing me watching u lie. I feel sorry for anyone who follows your lies. Go do your own research. Those aspects of the law that relate to blood requirement have been fulfilled. He said it himself, Christ has not changed the Law, not one jot or tittle has been changed but Christ has fulfilled the blood requirement of the Law. Blood is still required by LAW to cover sin - Christs blood.
We're very clearly not under the law of moses! Romans 6:14-15 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid." We're not lawless because we still are under a law, but not the law of Moses!
So you believe Christ only fulfilled SOME or the requirement of the law, but yet not others? Where in the Bible does it say that? I’ve got to hear this.
You just contradicted yourself, Lexa. You said the law does not change, but also that the animal sacrifices ended? Which is it now? Were animal sacrifices not part of the mosaic law?
@@girardedward No. But it ended even before the temple's destruction. The Book of Hebrews was written around 60 AD, ten years before the temple was destroyed.
I'm not a quarter of the way through and i have to say, you're already building massive straw men. The assumptions you have begun with are flawed Probably should re examine *who* this covenant was for and what this covenant is supposed to accomplish
Everything I said was according to Scripture. Instead of refuting the Scriptures I presented, you just wish to say my argument is flawed without providing a single shred of evidence.
I don't know any "hebrew roots" teachers per se. But I've never heard of any congregation that teaches following of the Sinai covenant is required for "salvation" as presented by Jesus. It is a straw man Leviticus 26 is clear about what such a person can expect for adherence to this covenant. Eternal life isn't there This covenant is for Israel. It's purpose is very specific. And as Jesus said, "until heaven and earth have passed",this covenant is tied to our present physical reality If there are hebrew roots teachers trying to make this incumbent on followers of Jesus, start by asking where they find a provision in the law making it incumbent on gentiles outside the land of Israel
What is it that you have to do to get to heaven? Christ's death was meaningless if you say anything other than sincere belief in Jesus Christ. Grace is a gift of God's, not of works. The fruit of the spirit is????? Galatians 5:22-23 - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." If you say there is something you can "DO" to save yourself, then why did Christ have to die? Is Jesus Christ's blood NOT sufficient? You, a sinner, need to add some works to the mix??? NO. That is absolutely a false doctrine. Your admit to the power of God, but deny its power, (2 Timothy 3:5) If you believe you can save yourself if you believe in works; this is a false doctrine and I sincerely pray that you all read the Word of God, don't harden your heart like Pharoah. The truth will set you free!!!! I wonder what Jesus meant by that?!? Period. This is the gospel and so is this: Romans 1:16,17 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just SHALL live by FAITH" Romans 3:23 "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!" Romans 5:8 "..but God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 6:23 "...for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit." Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Salvation is of Jesus Christ and His Father alone. May their most Holy Spirit fill each of us with the truth of His Word!
So wait, you’re saying if there is ANYTHING we have to DO then you believe that makes Christ death on the cross meaningless? Do we have to believe? That’s one thing we must do. Do we have to confess with our mouth Jesus is Lord? That’s another one. We can keep going. But even if you believe all you must do is believe, it’s still something which you must… DO!
@@abideintheWordI wonder what Jesus and the thief on the cross next to Jesus would say as he watches our conversation unfold, in Heaven. (Luke 23:32-43)That's the Word of God. Either it's all true or it isn't. Either God is constant, unchanging or He isn't. Which is it? Does God vacillate? You sound like you're trying to teach. It's the spirit that teaches. Not me. Not you. Is the Word of God 100% true? Every single time. John 14:26 1 John 2:27 Nehemiah 9:20, Mark 13:11 This sounds more like intellectual pride than the spirit. Judge correctly. You can do NOTHING without Christ. It is the invitation of the Spirit. Not YOU. NOT ME! SO no one will be able to boast. God Bless. Not a single verse in your reply either. Interesting. Did God lie to the thief on the Cross next to him? Was it an individual, specialized dispensation? Is the bible filled with individual acts not to be modelled by believers? This is the very heart of the issue. He want's worshippers IN SPIRIT and IN TRUTH. (John 4:24) Your and my acts mean nothing, for without Christ we can DO nothing. John 15:5 Kind of hard to discuss the Word of God without the Word of God.
@@lancervi1762 how did you not know i was quoting Romans 10:9 and John 3:16? I agree we can do nothing without Christ, but with Christ we can do all things though Him who gives us strength! The Thief on the Cross Had WORKS!!! And You Must Too czcams.com/users/shortssS9ZwvEia6g?feature=share
Many errors in teaching and understanding in this video. If I have the time I will comment on other bad theologies and doctrines being presented. First I will address the levitical sacrificial system. The vast majority of those offerings and sacrifices had nothing to do with sin. Yes, Jesus was the sin sacrifice, once and for all. But what does that have to do with all the other offerings and sacrifices that were not related to sinning? Also, the sin sacrifices that did exist, were for unknowingly sinning. If you go back and read Leviticus, you will find that a wilfull sin sacrifice does not exist. Meaning, if you knowingly sinned, there was not a sacrifice that you could make. You would have to come before God, repent and ask for forgiveness. The reason I say all that, is just to point out the argument you're making against the levitical system, the sacrifices and sin, it's just a flawed argument.
None of what your saying disproves anything I said, so I’m unsure as to the point you’re trying to make. So what if not all the sacrifices were for willful sin? Did Jesus fulfill all the sacrificial requirements for sin, yes or no? If so, then my point has been proven. You have to keep all the law, not just pick and choose.
It’s so sad when people speak before actually watching your videos. You look foolish. Remember what James said about being slow to speak and quick to listen? I addressed this in the video. We are not lawless. Please watch.
What is it that you, abailey3882, have to do to get to heaven? Christ's death was meaningless if you say anything other than sincere belief in Jesus Christ. Grace is a gift of God's, not of works. The fruit of the spirit is????? Galatians 5:22-23 - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." You believe you can save yourself if you believe in works. This is a false doctrine and I sincerely pray that you read the Word of God, don't harden your heart like Pharoah. The truth will set you free!!!! I wonder what Jesus meant by that?!? Period. This is the gospel and so is this: Romans 1:16,17 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just SHALL live by FAITH" Romans 3:23 "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!" Romans 5:8 "..but God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 6:23 "...for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit." Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
It depends on what you mean by this troll comment. THere are two laws, moral and ceremonical. Not eating pork does not have anything to do with holiness. Not stealing, not lying, not fornicating, not cussing etc. does.
@@abnerwhitewaterduck6723 nowhere in the Bible does it say there are moral laws versus ceremonial laws. You have to make assumptions from this in Scripture but it doesn’t say it anywhere. This is unbiblical.
I feel sorry for those like this man trying to "kick against the pricks" Sin = "trangression of the law" "Should we then continue to 'trangress the law / sin' that grace may abound, 'GOD' forbid!
Sad, you didn’t even watch my video. You law keepers don’t even watch my video. I said we are still under law. You need to go back and watch as you look really foolish, as do your other Torah-keeping friends. I do find it very interesting when Paul came against keeping the Mosaic law people also accused him of being lawless as well! You guys have blinders on and can’t even see you do the exact same thing! “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?” Romans 6:1-2 NKJV
@abideintheWord I am not your judge. Nor do I feel a need to defend myself. It is quite sad you still feel you are "under the law" when the real law following MESSIAH came to redeem those previously divorced and whoring and fulfilled Deut 24, freeing said bride, then offering the them a new marriage covenant. Jer 31:31 , Heb 8:8
You clearly didn’t watch my video. Didn’t James tell us to be quick to listen and slow to speak? We are not under the law of Moses. Maybe if you had watched you would know what I actually teach instead of misrepresenting me.
@@johnjones8112 we are not under the Law - as in the Mosiac law as you see Paul referring to it. He often just calls it the Law. We are under the New Testament, which has a new law, the law of Christ - “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.” Galatians 6:2 NKJV “to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;” I Corinthians 9:21 NKJV
To love God and to love our neighbor is a summary of the 10 commandments.
Yes, but it depends on how you mean that. We are not under the Mosaic law, so we don’t have to keep the literal Saturday Sabbath, but we still keep the sabbath by resting from our works and doing the works God prepared for us beforehand (aka taking His yoke upon us).
@@archewing did God change when he told Adam and Eve the only command was to not eat from the tree of good and evil to keep the Ten Commandments? Does this mean God changed? No it didn’t.
Why did God do away with the covenant He made with Adam and Eve? Or how about with Noah and Abraham before the OT law was even given? Are you saying God changed then?
@@archewing really? So Noah and Abraham you’re saying we’re under the Law of Moses before it was even given? How then they be under that law before it was even given? Were the Native Americans under US law back in the 1500’s?
@@archewing really? So Abraham held to all the 613 Mosaic commandments before they even existed? I would love to know how you could hold to a law that didn’t even exist.
Thanks for this brother appreciate your diligence
Hi friend, what’s your understanding of the verses In revelation about having the testimony of Jesus Christ and keeping God’s commandments?
Simple. We must keep the commandments of God! Did you watch the whole video? I addressed what the commandments of God are -
“And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.”
I John 3:23 NKJV
You have explained what it does not mean, or just showed the wrong interpretation. Can I ask what is in your opinion the right interpretation of Matthew 5:17-18?
God-willing I may do a video on this brother. But as I alluded to in the video, we are still under law, just not the law of Moses. We are now under a new and better covenant, or the law of Christ as it says in Galatians. Jesus was the fulfillment of the law, or He filled it up and gave it true meaning. Therefore when Paul says does the law not tell you not to muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain, he says this means in the New Covenant we are to support financially those who labor in the word -
“For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.””
I Timothy 5:18 NKJV
This is the TRUE meaning of that law. With everything in the Old Testament there is a fulfillment or realization of it in the New.
We don’t do sacrifices as far as sacrificing bulls and goats, but what do we do instead?
“Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”
Hebrews 13:15-16 NKJV
Thank you for your replies
Well said, brother!
He who has the Son has life. ❤
Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
That movement may want to read what is written in Galatians 3:10 about what happens to those who become cursed for continuing not in all things written in the book of the law to do them.
So did God lie when he said that everyone that keeps his commands shall be cursed and those that disobey shall be cursed?
Would Jesus “The Word”contradict the Father? Why do people teach observing Torah is bad? Especially, if someone wants to live like their Messiah.
@@girardedward No Those who obey the whole law will not be cursed those who break and transgress the law and continue not in all things written in the book of the law to do them become cursed.
Love is the fulfillment of the law. That passage says it all.
This is so good, praise the Lord! Thank you for addressing this issue, Adam. This issue has been a point of contention between me and my Torah-keeping Christian friends, who are always trying to persuade me to join their community so they can teach me their ways. I've been declining their invitation, and when I give my reasons, they always come up with this or that passage to back their beliefs. It grieves my heart that it's causing tension and division among believers (we are back to the same situation and same issues the apostles faced at the council in Jerusalem).
As for the sacrificial laws, they said that the reason they don't keep it anymore is because Christ fulfilled the ultimate sacrifice / atonement by dying on the cross for our sins. So they're not really rejecting Christ's sacrifice. But like you said, they have categorized the law into moral, sacrificial and ceremonial. It's the ceremonial laws they're mostly trying to get people to adhere to (feasts and sabbaths).
God bless you! Keep doing what you do. This channel has been such a blessing.
No, unfortunately they are indeed rejecting Christ’s sacrifice. Hebrews says there is no other sacrifice for sins - not bulls, goats, or anything else. The Bible makes it clear going back to these things CUT YOU OFF FROM CHRIST!!! This is serious.
“You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.”
Galatians 5:4 NKJV
“You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid for you, lest I have labored for you in vain.”
Galatians 4:10-11 NKJV
@@abideintheWord This makes me sad. A lot of them are really good and sincere people, but sadly deceived.
@@dropdeadpinkkk there are a lot of very sweet Mormons too. I have met several, and they are the nicest people I’ve known. Doesn’t mean they are saved and have the right gospel and the right Jesus.
@@abideintheWord I know, me too. 😥🙏
Do you believe that those who follow Hebrew Roots are genuinely saved? I had a friend who recently passed away who followed this devoutly and used the Sacred Name, etc. He actually said that there was no salvation in the name of Jesus. I am wondering if he made it to Heaven. Thank you in advance.
@@karadejesus1690 God is the judge, but it doesn’t sound like he was walking in the light. I think they are just like the Galatians. Those who have fully bought into this and embraced it are cut off from Christ. Those who might just be confused and don’t know any better because they haven’t heard or haven’t had the knowledge I believe these people fall into Romans 14.
Okay, thank you so very much for your reply. I was really wrestling with the thought that he may not be in Paradise 😢
Yo bro... I'm watching this right now.
Adam, with all due respect, upon examining the Bible and New Testament, it is true that the ritual, outside ceremonial laws of the Mosaic Law were all done with, as they do not concern our hearts and they are external. And Jesus already fulfilled the sacrifices part.
However, we True Believers are still to follow the Moral laws of the Mosaic law, because these concern our hearts. For instance, we are not to commit sexual immorality and idolatry and avoid these. These are in the Ten Commandments, do not commit adultery (even in your heart), do not covet, do not have any other gods beside Him, do not murder in your heart.
So the moral laws of the Mosaic law, we have to obey them still...
Love includes avoiding these sins. There is no dichotomy.
We follow these Moral laws out of Love, as empowered by the Holy Spirit.
Any thoughts Adam?
I guess the 10 commandments don't apply either because Jesus fulfilled the law. Also you never hear them say that tithing doesn't apply anymore because Jesus fulfilled the law.
I’m so tired of you Judiazers coming on here and commenting without even watching the video. Watch the video! You look foolish as I said in the video we very much are still under law. Go back and watch!
Exodus 5:7
Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.
Matthew 25:9
But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
I’ve watched a few of your videos and I’m curious what your definition of sin is? In the last video I watched you talked about how we are not to sin. How do we know what sin is without the law? Genuinely curious how you define it. ❤
Sin is transgression of the law as 1 John states. The question is - WHICH law? The law of Moses? The law Adam and Eve had to not eat of the fruit of the tree? No! The law of Christ!!!
“Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”
Galatians 6:2 NKJV
“to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;”
I Corinthians 9:21 NKJV
So clear for those who have the ears to hear it. Paul clearly makes a distinction between the law of Christ and the law of Moses, so they CANNOT be the same!
Post other questions here instead of spamming all the other threads if you don’t mind. Thanks.
@@abideintheWord sorry- just reading through them and wanted to add some scriptures. ♥️. Will do that going forward.
@@deej4527 thanks because otherwise it sort of hijacks the thread and can take them in various directions.
@@abideintheWord ok -so we have to bear one another’s burdens? Thats the whole of the law? I’m curious because I have wrestled with this ALOT! And like you say HR people don’t have an answer for you to some of your questions. I have the same problem. So you’re saying all we have to do is bear one another’s burdens and that’s it? Is there more?
Note it says “…. till all be FULFILLED!” To fulfill the law is not the same thing as obeying it.
Jesus says he came to FULFILL the law. How many times did legalistic adherents accuse Jesus of not obeying the law by “ breaking the sabbath” for example; or accusing him of “eating with publicans and sinners”. (Does this mean Jesus ate what gentiles served him; like bacon?)
Again, this passage says “fulfill”. The law is not fulfilled in obedience to its letter.
Not sure what you are saying, but if you are saying we are still under law I don’t know how Romans 7 could possibly make it any more clear we are DEAD to the law, and Paul states this law is the Ten Commandments. There is no way around this is if you are going to be honest with the Scriptures?
@@abideintheWord - There's the law of sin and death and than there's the law of Christ.
Which the law of Christ comes about as a result of the atonement. Of which the atonement fulfills the law of sin and death; and this is how it delivers one from sin and it's consequences; including death and the judgment of God.
Romans 8:2!
@@NNaadah I agree with you. What point are you trying to make? I’m missing it.
@@abideintheWord - The assumption of the people in things like the Hebrew roots movement (or 1st century Judiazers) was that "fulfilling" the law meant obeying the letter of it.
Jesus had stated to the legalists that they'd missed the point of the law. "23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." (Matthew 23:22-24)
They chose to pay attention to the form it represented and not the meaning behind the form.
1 john chapter 2 is enough to refute the Hebrew/jewsish roots... People are trying to get followers.. they say unless you have a rabbi then you cant
Understood what the Bible means... My half brother tried to that one on me to try and claim authority over me...
“Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples 👉after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.”
Acts 20:30-31 NKJV
“whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of 👉dishonest gain.”
Titus 1:11 NKJV
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Revelation 17:17
For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
Those words till all be fulfilled of course God's will will be fulfilled considering so many Bible verses in the Scriptures have already come to pass in these many years since the early church began following the death the burial and the resurrection of Christ Himself from the dead. Its a fact we cannot ignore to be truthful and honest about it.
I’m dealing with a gentleman on the same subject. I tryd showing him acts 15 where Paul appealed to the disciples and elders with James and Peter both giving only a couple of rules for gentiles and even going so far as to write a letter and send others as witnesses
They even say they weren’t able to keep the law! But this guy is dead set on keeping the law ….😞
There is a veil over their eyes until they come to Christ. It’s almost as hard talking to them as it is the free-gracers.
Adam, with all due respect, upon examining the Bible and New Testament, it is true that the ritual, outside ceremonial laws of the Mosaic Law were all done with, as they do not concern our hearts and they are external. And Jesus already fulfilled the sacrifices part.
However, we True Believers are still to follow the Moral laws of the Mosaic law, because these concern our hearts. For instance, we are not to commit sexual immorality and idolatry and avoid these. These are in the Ten Commandments, do not commit adultery (even in your heart), do not covet, do not have any other gods beside Him, do not murder in your heart.
So the moral laws of the Mosaic law, we have to obey them still...
Love includes avoiding these sins. There is no dichotomy.
We follow these Moral laws out of Love, as empowered by the Holy Spirit.
Any thoughts Adam?
Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Old Testament law is broken up into “ceremonial laws” versus “moral laws”. This is an invention of men that they have made up to put you UNDER The law. Paul is clearly in Romans 7 we are dead to the law and he specifically mentions the command not to covet so yes Paul says we are dead even to the Ten Commandments!
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This link from Dr. Brown is a balanced discussion regarding the law.
@@amymurray7551 Michael Brown speaks against faith and works. I would not recommend his soteriology.
@@amymurray7551 Faith Alone
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Show Torah people grace and righteousness by the Holy Spirit. God can do it!
Yes it’s by the Spirit and not by the law! This is how we know if we are being led by the Spirit and not under law -
“But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.”
Galatians 5:18-26 NKJV
the sacrificial laws are coming back, what then>?
What?
temple construction is nearly complete, ther practicing the opening ceremony , a herd of spotless red cows. Wheres your argument, because soon all those blood spilling rituals are comming back. @@abideintheWord
@@samhellion how does that change anything I said. We are still not under the law so I don’t understand.
The Juda izers, or Hebrew roots people, cherry pick the "laws" that most benefit there agenda, which is to have a following, to collect tithes and offerings, to have mind control over peoples faith or rather to keep them in fear of punishment and death, and not to trust in Christ and His sacrifice for all mankinds salvation. Christ freed man from the law of sin and death .What law are we under once we recieve Christ sacrifice for our sin nature? "The law of the spirit of LIfe in Christ Jesus" (Rom 8:2) "Christ IN you, the hope of glory" (Col. 1:27) The law written in our minds(heart) ( Jer. 31:31-34 and Hebrews 10:16) There are many more scriptures that agree with these.One more for a top off: " As in Adam all die, so also in Christ all are made alive" (1 Cor 15:22)
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What?
So, I am a Torah keeping Christian. I can’t speak for everyone, but I can say that you misrepresented the beliefs of a good portion of us. Would you be open to a dialogue on this?
No I didn’t. How?
You said believing Gods law is good and should be kept starts a cascade of rejecting the scriptures and Christ. Perhaps that is true of some, but not of many. You portray the belief as a faith killer. Personally, my faith has only deepened.
@@Torah-Man no I didn’t. I believe we must keep God’s law. I never said we don’t.
Did you watch the entire video?
You also make it seem like we think animal sacrifices were/are required for forgiveness of sins. The Old Testament itself doesn’t even teach that. The whole sacrificial system was always a shadow, just as the NT writers and yourself said.
You do understand that there are Black Israelites who actually follow Christ but also believe they are the people of the book?
I wasn’t addressing them.
Hebrew roots is a different, but similar movement than the black Hebrew Israelites.
The law was meant to expose sin and be a guardian until Christ came.
There are different commandments that are reiterated in the new covenant and taken to a far deeper level, but indeed it is a new covenant that is completely different from the one given on Mount Sinai.
And on top of that these commandments are found outside of the ten, and two are the greatest, and one is a new commandment:
"Love the Lord God with all your heart soul mind and strength"
"Love your neighbor as yourself"
But this one surpasses even human ability: "love one another as I have loved you."
This commandment shows the heart of the transformative work of the gospel in peoples lives. It goes far beyond anything the ten could do when it is fulfilled.
Read the ten. There is not a single command to love in them.
That is why the command to love like Christ is surpassingly greater. And if you are found in Christ, you can fullfill the law through that one command: love.
This is not an excuse to sin. But if we walk by the spirit, we will not gratify the desires of the flesh, and we can truly love our neighbors, and especially our brothers and sisters in Christ.
The NT is law is different, but it’s really the same. It’s always been to love God with all your heart mind soul and strength and to love others. However, Jesus filled it up to its fullness. The Mosiac law said not to commit adultery, but Jesus said if you even look at a women with lust you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. The OT law was a SHADOW of the things to come - Christ. The OT law wasn’t done away with. No! Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law - rather He came to fill it up! Not many people can accept this, only to whom it is granted by the Father. So now we don’t do animal sacrifices, but we still do sacrifices -
“Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”
Hebrews 13:15-16 NKJV
They are the manna in the wilderness, but we eat the manna of God’s word and the bread the Spirit gives us. Do you understand these things?
There is NOTHING false about following in the foot steps of Yahushua!
I follow JESUS, completely because I love Him. In fact, I love Him enough to the point where I don’t want to insult Him by trying to continue sacrificing animals when He was the Lamb of God who already took away the sin of the world. As Hebrews says, He was a BETTER sacrifice and the blood of bulls and goats could NEVER take away our sins.
Your problem is, you don’t want Jesus to take away all your sins. Do you still sin?
Were the Corinthians, the church Paul set up, sinning when he accused them of worse sexual immorality than the pagans?@@abideintheWord
Moral of the story you still have to follow commandments. What your point, what is your focus. Are you saying since Jesus died all we have to do is say we accept Jesus and everything will be ok? We need to know. If you love Jesus youll follow his commandments its that simple why play these back and forth games. And what Bible are you reading from? What is NKJV?
You clearly didn’t watch the video. I explained all of this. Please go watch.
I never once said we are without law. The question is, what law?
Name the commandments, Mr. LPMS. Is it not the Sermon on the Mount?
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"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Who is your friend? Jesus.
God is saying deny yourself, pick up the cross and follow him. Know that you have died upon that cross, it is no longer you that live, but Christ in you.
The will of the father is to take away the first to establish the second. This means everything from Adam, your past self, your old nature, sin is dead- by faith upon that cross. Because that cross was indeed ours to bear, but Jesus took the punishment- and where there is death for our wages, there is no more punishment for sin. But the accuser and his many minions will try to steal this blessed hope, and put you into bondage. Working all the day long for a righteousness you can't even glimpse by your works.
We are to be in rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ. He really did what he came to do, he finished it.
So do we go and sin freely so grace abounds? God forbid! Don't be a slave to sin. You've been freed from Egypt.
But alas, the journey just begins when you get saved. The wilderness awaits you before you enter into the promised land.
Your post is confusing, but no all punishment has not been taking upon the cross - it is conditional.
“But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.”
I John 1:7 NKJV
Amen
Full disclosure, I am only two and a half minutes into this video. It sounds like you are saying that people trying to keep God's law have to adhere/do all that it contains. Did Jesus keep the laws that were specifically for women? Would you say that He didn't keep God's law perfectly then? The issue is that you are adding stipulations that aren't in any other format of law. Not in the Word, and not even in the corrupt world. Does God expect everyone to buy an orchard or field and plant fruit/veggies just so that we could adhere to the law that says to leave the corners of the field for widows, orphans, and the destitute? Does the U.S. Government expect me to weigh my personal truck at weigh stations because of the laws for commercial truck driving?
The point is that God removed the temple so that we couldn't go there anymore. However, Paul still sacrificed while the temple was standing and that was after Christ had ascended to the right hand of the Father. I am not part of Hebrew Roots, but I do my best to keep God's commands. I try to keep all that apply to me? Do I make mistakes? Yes, but thank God for His Salvation that shed His blood so that I could be cleansed. Should we refuse to keep God's commands so that grace may abound? God forbid, Paul says.
There are only a few commands that we would probably differ on. Sabbath, of which there is no verse that tells us we can do it how or when we want. It falls under the Love God with all your heart portion, as He set it up as a sign between us and Him. There are a few verses that people can twist to say they don't have to do it, but it's always a matter of interpretation of understanding. Jesus will give us rest. Amen. When He returns, He will set up a 1000 year rest. Just as the Sabbath was on the seventh day, His reign will be the seventh Millennium. Paul says to let no man judge you regarding Sabbaths.
Colossians 2:16-17
[16]Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17]Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
You have to add a negative connotation to it. Do not let someone judge you for not keeping these things. I add the positive. Do not let someone judge you when you keep these things. This verse has helped me many times when dealing with family and friends. I have been called all kinds of names for keeping Sabbath. Pretend Jew, and Seventh Day Adventist were the nicer accusations.
The biblical diet is slightly different. Things taken out of context is where people get permission to eat unclean animals. Peter himself tells us what his vision meant in Acts chapter 10. If that wasn't enough, he recounts all that happened to other men who come to the same conclusion in the next chapter. If pork would have been on the menu, they probably would have said something to that effect. Jesus declaring all foods clean is another case of taking the verse out of context. In Mathew's version, Jesus straight up tells you what He is speaking against at the end. Eating with unwashed hands. Unclean animals are never even mentioned in that narrative. The Pharisees were talking about eating bread without washing the hands in their extrabiblical ceremonial way.
The last major difference would be the identity of God's people. Church is an assembly of people, not a people group itself. God has one people. They are currently split into two houses, but will become one in the hand of Messiah. There are references to this all over the Bible, but you will miss it if you don't know the whole council of the Word. Hosea is about the House that was cast out and divorced. God says they are not His people, and He is not their God. Paul talks about this as well.
Romans 9:22-26
[22]What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
[23]And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
[24]Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
[25]As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
[26]And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
But if you don't make connections and learn the story then you won't see it. The story of the two houses are all over the Word. It's even in the story of Adam and Eve. One becomes two, then through marriage become one again. Who is the New Covenant made with? It tells us plainly in both testaments. Does that mean we have to be descendants? Read Ephesians 2, and Romans 9-11. You were gentiles before you had God, but now are part of the Commonwealth of Israel. Not by our blood, but by His blood. Grafted in. Adopted. Part of, not replacing.
As far as trying to bring people back into bondage. Amen. Bondage to the Master that gave the rules. Paul says that we are a slave to whom we serve.
How about you go back and finish the video. If you won’t have respect enough to watch the entire video before commenting, then why am I going to read your comment?
@@abideintheWord I finished the video right after my comment. No offense, but I don't respect you. If you were asking me to show some respect, I think my comment was much more respectful than what you said about people like me. While you are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to twist God's Word to attack His people. You used verses about the Pharisees to slander us, when you are actually teaching things more in line with the Pharisees. You are holding to your doctrine of men over God's Word. You nullify commands by your doctrine. You use cherry picked verses to make it sound as if God changed or cancelled His Sabbath. You twist Paul's words as Peter warns us.
I didn’t twist anything, and I didn’t take anything out of context. You just don’t want to hear the truth.
@@AProdigalSonReturned a veil is still over your eyes -
“unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
II Corinthians 3:13-17 NKJV
@@abideintheWord Romans 7:1-3
[1]Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
[2]For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
[3]So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
These first three verses have needed context before you move on to declare that we are dead to the whole law. You picked one verse out of four because you could make it line up with your belief. There is context outside of Romans 7 that plays into what Paul is saying there as well. You twist when you say that we cannot keep all of the law as if that is expected. Jesus couldn't keep all of the law either because some laws were specific to women, Levites, farmers, etc. Yet the Bible says he kept God's law perfectly. There are many other examples of what you were doing, or will do if we talk about keeping Sabbath or eating according to the Bible. I was taught to extrapolate meanings when I allowed men to tell me what the Bible says/means. When I started reading it for myself, it said something much different.
Ignorant people should not think they are teachers. What a pathetic work of sophistry 😒You distort Paul's writing to override what Messiah said " If you love ❤️ me obey my commandments "
Yes Jesus says MY commandments, not Moses commandments. You conflate the two by TWISTING Matthew 5 trying to say Jesus’ and Moses commandments were the same! This is demonstrably false! Jesus preached to go into all the world preaching the gospel and baptizing people in the name of the Father Son and the Holy Spirit. Where was that in the Old Testament?
Tell you what. If you can show me where this command is found in the OT, we’ll have a convo. But my fear is that you’ll just ignore it like I never even said it and move on to another passage. I hope that’s not the case. Deal with this!
Ok cool....then as we drive through different cities, that have different laws, some of which dont/can't apply to us , ..we can throw out their entire set of penal codes and laws ...all or nothing....sounds legit..
You clearly didn’t watch the whole video. I talk about how we are still under law. Please go back and watch. So sad when people are quick to speak and slow to listen.
Interesting how they leveled the exact same accusation against Paul in his day!
“What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!”
Romans 6:15 NKJV
Perhaps a mistake on my part. I may have intended to reply to another video.
My overarching point is that I haven't encountered a single person in the Torah observant movement that was motivated by personal achievement of salvation through observation of the law. What I have seen is a people motivated by pure gratitude of salvation from Yeshua and a subsequent eagerness to please the Father who made it possible. Obedience to Torah is reciprocal love to the best of our ability in a fallen world.
@@primalway1317 says no verse in Scripture at all.
This is so easy to refute. The practice of animal sacrifice ended when the perfect sacrifuce was made. The veil of the temple on which the blood of sacrificed animals was sprinkled was rent in two.
Its amusing me watching u lie. I feel sorry for anyone who follows your lies. Go do your own research. Those aspects of the law that relate to blood requirement have been fulfilled. He said it himself, Christ has not changed the Law, not one jot or tittle has been changed but Christ has fulfilled the blood requirement of the Law. Blood is still required by LAW to cover sin - Christs blood.
We're very clearly not under the law of moses!
Romans 6:14-15 "For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid."
We're not lawless because we still are under a law, but not the law of Moses!
So you believe Christ only fulfilled SOME or the requirement of the law, but yet not others? Where in the Bible does it say that? I’ve got to hear this.
You just contradicted yourself, Lexa. You said the law does not change, but also that the animal sacrifices ended? Which is it now? Were animal sacrifices not part of the mosaic law?
@@abnerwhitewaterduck6723Were Jews sacrificing without a temple in Babylon??
@@girardedward No. But it ended even before the temple's destruction. The Book of Hebrews was written around 60 AD, ten years before the temple was destroyed.
I'm not a quarter of the way through and i have to say, you're already building massive straw men. The assumptions you have begun with are flawed
Probably should re examine *who* this covenant was for and what this covenant is supposed to accomplish
Please reserve judgement until you watch the whole video. Be slow to speak and quick to listen.
@@abideintheWord I finished watching it. The criticism stands
Everything I said was according to Scripture. Instead of refuting the Scriptures I presented, you just wish to say my argument is flawed without providing a single shred of evidence.
I don't know any "hebrew roots" teachers per se. But I've never heard of any congregation that teaches following of the Sinai covenant is required for "salvation" as presented by Jesus. It is a straw man
Leviticus 26 is clear about what such a person can expect for adherence to this covenant. Eternal life isn't there
This covenant is for Israel. It's purpose is very specific. And as Jesus said, "until heaven and earth have passed",this covenant is tied to our present physical reality
If there are hebrew roots teachers trying to make this incumbent on followers of Jesus, start by asking where they find a provision in the law making it incumbent on gentiles outside the land of Israel
@@tbishop4961 so if it’s not required for salvation, then we don’t have to obey the law? Ok thanks!
What is it that you have to do to get to heaven?
Christ's death was meaningless if you say anything other than sincere belief in Jesus Christ. Grace is a gift of God's, not of works. The fruit of the spirit is????? Galatians 5:22-23 - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."
If you say there is something you can "DO" to save yourself, then why did Christ have to die? Is Jesus Christ's blood NOT sufficient? You, a sinner, need to add some works to the mix??? NO. That is absolutely a false doctrine. Your admit to the power of God, but deny its power, (2 Timothy 3:5)
If you believe you can save yourself if you believe in works; this is a false doctrine and I sincerely pray that you all read the Word of God, don't harden your heart like Pharoah. The truth will set you free!!!! I wonder what Jesus meant by that?!?
Period. This is the gospel and so is this:
Romans 1:16,17 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just SHALL live by FAITH"
Romans 3:23 "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!"
Romans 5:8 "..but God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 6:23 "...for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord."
Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit."
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Salvation is of Jesus Christ and His Father alone. May their most Holy Spirit fill each of us with the truth of His Word!
So wait, you’re saying if there is ANYTHING we have to DO then you believe that makes Christ death on the cross meaningless? Do we have to believe? That’s one thing we must do. Do we have to confess with our mouth Jesus is Lord? That’s another one. We can keep going. But even if you believe all you must do is believe, it’s still something which you must… DO!
@@abideintheWordI wonder what Jesus and the thief on the cross next to Jesus would say as he watches our conversation unfold, in Heaven. (Luke 23:32-43)That's the Word of God. Either it's all true or it isn't. Either God is constant, unchanging or He isn't. Which is it? Does God vacillate?
You sound like you're trying to teach. It's the spirit that teaches. Not me. Not you. Is the Word of God 100% true? Every single time. John 14:26 1 John 2:27 Nehemiah 9:20, Mark 13:11
This sounds more like intellectual pride than the spirit.
Judge correctly. You can do NOTHING without Christ. It is the invitation of the Spirit. Not YOU. NOT ME! SO no one will be able to boast. God Bless.
Not a single verse in your reply either. Interesting. Did God lie to the thief on the Cross next to him? Was it an individual, specialized dispensation? Is the bible filled with individual acts not to be modelled by believers?
This is the very heart of the issue. He want's worshippers IN SPIRIT and IN TRUTH. (John 4:24) Your and my acts mean nothing, for without Christ we can DO nothing. John 15:5
Kind of hard to discuss the Word of God without the Word of God.
@@lancervi1762 how did you not know i was quoting Romans 10:9 and John 3:16? I agree we can do nothing without Christ, but with Christ we can do all things though Him who gives us strength!
The Thief on the Cross Had WORKS!!! And You Must Too
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Replies with a video link and not the Word of God.
God bless you and take care.
You don’t even seem to recognize when I quote the word of God. Are you new in the faith or something?
Many errors in teaching and understanding in this video.
If I have the time I will comment on other bad theologies and doctrines being presented.
First I will address the levitical sacrificial system. The vast majority of those offerings and sacrifices had nothing to do with sin.
Yes, Jesus was the sin sacrifice, once and for all. But what does that have to do with all the other offerings and sacrifices that were not related to sinning?
Also, the sin sacrifices that did exist, were for unknowingly sinning.
If you go back and read Leviticus, you will find that a wilfull sin sacrifice does not exist. Meaning, if you knowingly sinned, there was not a sacrifice that you could make. You would have to come before God, repent and ask for forgiveness.
The reason I say all that, is just to point out the argument you're making against the levitical system, the sacrifices and sin, it's just a flawed argument.
None of what your saying disproves anything I said, so I’m unsure as to the point you’re trying to make. So what if not all the sacrifices were for willful sin? Did Jesus fulfill all the sacrificial requirements for sin, yes or no? If so, then my point has been proven. You have to keep all the law, not just pick and choose.
I recommend reading the Book of Hebrews, Ryan!
You have made me a follower of Paul , I can do what feels good to me as long as I love my neighbor.wow
It’s so sad when people speak before actually watching your videos. You look foolish. Remember what James said about being slow to speak and quick to listen? I addressed this in the video. We are not lawless. Please watch.
What is it that you, abailey3882, have to do to get to heaven?
Christ's death was meaningless if you say anything other than sincere belief in Jesus Christ. Grace is a gift of God's, not of works. The fruit of the spirit is????? Galatians 5:22-23 - "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."
You believe you can save yourself if you believe in works. This is a false doctrine and I sincerely pray that you read the Word of God, don't harden your heart like Pharoah. The truth will set you free!!!! I wonder what Jesus meant by that?!?
Period. This is the gospel and so is this:
Romans 1:16,17 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just SHALL live by FAITH"
Romans 3:23 "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!"
Romans 5:8 "..but God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 6:23 "...for the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord."
Romans 8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the spirit."
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
It depends on what you mean by this troll comment. THere are two laws, moral and ceremonical. Not eating pork does not have anything to do with holiness. Not stealing, not lying, not fornicating, not cussing etc. does.
@@abnerwhitewaterduck6723 nowhere in the Bible does it say there are moral laws versus ceremonial laws. You have to make assumptions from this in Scripture but it doesn’t say it anywhere. This is unbiblical.
@@abideintheWord Suppose I misinterpreted myself. Sorry brother.
I feel sorry for those like this man trying to "kick against the pricks"
Sin = "trangression of the law"
"Should we then continue to 'trangress the law / sin' that grace may abound, 'GOD' forbid!
Sad, you didn’t even watch my video. You law keepers don’t even watch my video. I said we are still under law. You need to go back and watch as you look really foolish, as do your other Torah-keeping friends.
I do find it very interesting when Paul came against keeping the Mosaic law people also accused him of being lawless as well! You guys have blinders on and can’t even see you do the exact same thing!
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?”
Romans 6:1-2 NKJV
@abideintheWord I am not your judge. Nor do I feel a need to defend myself. It is quite sad you still feel you are "under the law" when the real law following MESSIAH came to redeem those previously divorced and whoring and fulfilled Deut 24, freeing said bride, then offering the them a new marriage covenant.
Jer 31:31 , Heb 8:8
You clearly didn’t watch my video. Didn’t James tell us to be quick to listen and slow to speak? We are not under the law of Moses. Maybe if you had watched you would know what I actually teach instead of misrepresenting me.
@abideintheWord you have first commented we are under the law now commented we are not. Good day
@@johnjones8112 we are not under the Law - as in the Mosiac law as you see Paul referring to it. He often just calls it the Law. We are under the New Testament, which has a new law, the law of Christ -
“Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”
Galatians 6:2 NKJV
“to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law;”
I Corinthians 9:21 NKJV