My First Cush Core Install experience; it can't actually be that hard right? WRONG!!
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Cush core is a foam insert that eliminates nearly all pinch flats, acts as a bead lock, improves traction and ride quality. Sounds likes a win win, why wouldn't your run in it? IT'S REALLY HARD TO INSTALL (and expensive). In this video you will get to watch Phil struggle to install cush core. I should add, I did watch the installation guide multiple times, but even after doing that, my first experience with installing the cush core insert was very frustrating. However, knowing what I know now, the next experience should be much easier.
- Jak na to + styl
Watch my updated cushcore review with a few installation tricks czcams.com/video/Z3326Pd1Pio/video.html
Better yet delete this video.
The key to cushcore installation is BURY THE BEAD ALL OF THE WAY AROUND. Deeply into the rims channel. It’s is that simple. Patiently bury that tires bead using the tire logo as a depth gauge. It’s really that simple. Use soapy water on sticky compounds. Any decent tech or a couch monkey that listens can mount these inserts 5-10 min. per wheel. It’s a tire change…🙏🔑✌️
Imagine noticing that you put your tire on the rim in the wrong direction...
I don't want to!
Done that before on my DH bike. Really sucks. 😩
Just means it would be time to buy a new bike!!!!
Wait... You WANTED the Magic Mary on the Rear?! Where are you riding?
Adam Demas MM front and rear is good for DH all around conditions... maybe not on the rear for racing in dry hardpack.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that struggles at times with mounting the tires. Some go better than the "how to do it with ease" and some go like your experience shared here. I really appreciate the integrity you display.
Man, your videos are as informative as they are entertaining! My wife and I both just learned a lot but chuckled and laughed along the way. Thank you for making such amazing MTB videos. It’s not wonder that you have so many subscribers and views!
soaper wooder , CHRIS FIX, IS THAT YOU?
serious effort required, and this dude is strong! i think this is one of those products that has the potential to really positively impact my riding. very rooty and rough and often wet. the ability to control chatter, improve traction and minimize rim damage and flats is huge. looking forward to your critical review mate.
If you go out on your first ride and slit a sidewall, it's going to be the first video where we see you cry on camera!
HAHAH!
Your comment about pushing the bead down so it’s not visible around the rim (for more slack) saved my hands and SO much frustration! Got it on first try after seeing that.
I can't get enough of your vids! I love them all! You make learning and reviews fun and entertaining! Keep them coming!
awesome video phill! I'm digging the new vlog style I can't wait to see the reviews on the core insert they most def finely seem like a good investment.
Thanks Mike! It's a good way to get more comfortable in front of the camera. i don't think I'll be vlogging 100% but I may add that element from time to time. This channel is still a work in progress :)
Hi Phil, hilarious watching you do this, so thanks for that! I too have suffered 30 minutes a wheel trying to put Tannus Armour in my wheels with tubes!!! Great to see we had the same feeling after pumping them up!
I know this is an old vid but just discovered the channel... loving your channel so far.
So appreciate the real (not sponsored, hard to believe vids) video showing how to deal with challenging aspects of the install. I might try again after initially giving up.
It gets a lot easier once you learn the quirks. Also some tires are more challenging than others
"smells good. Reminds me if a sharpie" lol
Love your videos Phil, you're funny, and you also really know your stuff. I learned so much watching your riding skills videos, even if I haven't mastered most of it yet. This is a product I never knew existed. Thinking of going tubeless so keen to see how you find it after riding it for a bit.
Lol easy as that! My girlfriend and I got into mountain biking about 2 years ago. We've really learned a lot from you. We just saw you in a video for opening day at Whistler. I bet that was a blast! Good luck with those tires!
Awesome, Looking forward to the review in awhile. Keep bringing the RAD Content!!
A tip I got from an Arron gwin video installing a similar system suggested using zip ties to help get the tyre on- so when you get to the point your fingers can't do it, zip tie and it won't pop off as you work on the final bit.
I see you emulated this with a clamp but I think zip tie is easier :)
Great work Phil- still loving the videos!' :)
toasty bear That's a good tip! Probably would have been a bit easier then the clamp, thanks!
I tried the zip tie technique during my install, but didn't work as well as I hoped. The bead still kept removing itself past the zip tie. For me.....you have to use extremely soapy water and dig the bead that is on the opposite end as deep as you can into the rim to give you extra room to fully install the tire/tyre. Funny with my hoops the Cush Core went around the wheel very easy. I didn't need to grunt or use a hammer at all. I hope it wasn't pre stretched.....
Try a couple of clamps directly on tire sidewalls. Can keep the bead towards the center of rim, giving you more slack.
Dude, why did i not think of that.. ace tip thanks.
Nice work Phil! That looks like a huge PITA!
I'm not even getting a Cush Core and I watched the video to the end! You're the best Phil!🤙
+Kaysen Klingler haha you rock dude!!
This vid is awesome. It's pretty much a documentary of my fight too. I spent 2 hours installing cushcore and I did only one rim. 90% of that time I was laughing my ass off because it seemed totally impossible task without tools intended to be used for working with truck tires. However after pushing the sidewall to the center so that the line disappears totally installation become very casual. So this time obeying the instructions is even more important than when putting together some Ikea furniture. Just remember to use liberal amount of lubricate and push the sidewall to the center also when seating the first bead.
You are awesome. You have inspired me to start riding mountain bikes and just find a way to have fun in general.
Dude. I had the same experience. Omg. Keep up the awesome work.Phil
thanks for your advice on how to install the tire. finally was able to get the bead over and on the rim!
At least you've finally lined up your tyre and rim logos!!
Wow that was epic. Kudos for persevering
Sounds good.. But I don't think I could get that together.... Geez! Good job Phil. Good workout.. Time for a nap now after that struggle. 👍😉
That's a good job done ! Hopefully they will perform .
I LOVE! That popping sound a tire makes.
Hey Phil, very helpful video. I'm glad you made this one because I've been thinking about trying these cushcores out with the plus tires. I thought it was my lady strength that made it challenging to install tires on a carbon wheel but alas it seems like a struggle for anyone. I wrangled with mine for a good half hour. Looking forward to your thoughts on the cushcore. Cheers!
6:25 This was me last night, glad I'm not the only one struggling on the first bead. All the guides/video make it seem like the first bead is easy and they don't give you further instructions about tucking the bead until you do the other side.
I gave up on just prying it over and started tucking the first bead under the CC toward the center of the rim to get slack, almost got it and had the CC slip out the other side and had to start over so I stopped for the night. Watched another video and he said to stuff the bead under the CC to the center for slack so I guess I was on the right path. CC is on the rim fairly tight so its hard to go around lifting it up enough to push the bead under it.
Hey Phil. Great honest video. Very informative and kinda funny! That tyre was a mother!! to get on. Feel kinda bad for laughing, but I think I would have p'd my pants if the tyre was on the wrong way round!!
Love your stuff, keep it up Phil.
I'm anxiously awaiting a follow up video, of all the people on youtube I'd take Phil's opinions because he rides enough to actually know the difference and he's not sponsored or going to support a product he doesn't believe in personally. Is this a revolution or a fad? The product looks really interesting albeit a bear to install it seems.
Soooo glad i went with the Vittoria tire liners instead.. Specially after watching the installation process... And , was able to do a ghetto tubeless system with a super easy installation.. Vittoria Air liners for the win!!
Great video. The other one I recently watched didn't show the install. I know how much of a PITA a really tight tire can be so I was thinking this would really suck to do. So much work to do one tire, and then you have to do the other one!
#1....good stuff. $160 for foam rubber? Better be a great product...
So Close!!
My Alternative title was along the lines I got swindled into spending $160 on some dumb foam.
Hahahaha. Hope it works for you...
If you have fat bike put just pool noodel in it
Great video, you earned it💪🏼. The Volume (2.4/2.6 vs. 2.1/2.2) of a bigger DH tire is what makes it feel plusher. Not the casing. Casings on DH tires are usually heavier and rougher riding.
+Kim Rice the casings do have a dampening get effective. It's more than just the volume.
Very stoked to hear your feedback especially!
Would love some macro slow motion shots of the tire hitting rock/obstacle at various psi as well as trying to burp it on camera with a cutie or something. Maybe too much to ask. Just want to seeeeee the difference in slow motion if possible 👍🏻✌🏼️
The rim took more abuse mounting, than when riding.
LOL, love it. As an XC geek my only concern would be an increase in rolling resistance - I run 18psi generally F/R on 2.3 Ikons and as long as you don't ride lazy or roots and rocks I dont get many rim hits but the idea the product is neat but it almost seems like a solution in search of a problem. I have never had a tubeless pinch flat.
I had to admit that this video was funny as f*** to watch! be waiting for the review
Hey Phil, please include in your future review of this foam, the effect on climbing or acceleration given the little extra weight this foam bring, if there is not much trade off on this side, could be a very interesting product for my ride!!
Had to Go full beast to get those on son! great video bud, thanks for everythnig you do
It's a lot easier now that I have more experience. Most installs only take 10-20 minutes, but occasionally I still run into stubborn tire combos that make the installation a bit more laborious than I'd like.
Haha! Told ya it was a hard install. That's why in my video I showed folks that I used pretty heavy duty tire irons. Good job man!
+Regular Guy Mountain Biking I had already recorded this video when yours came out. I don't think I would want to use levers on my carbon rims but other wise I agree
Ok, here's some advice: in cush core's video they suggest installation on top of an open plastic trash can, saving your back and your wheel from damage.
Also it is very important to utilize the thermal powers of the sunlight, not only to remedy your pasty white skin and give you some vitamin D, but also to warm up the silicone cores and the tire to make it more malleable and much easier. I install full sets in about 15 minutes, including time for the sunlight exposure.
Why not then one of this burning trash cans instead. Cool compromise. Best of both worlds.
Great information, I didn't even know this was a thing.
I love how you were talking to your tire like it was a baby😂👶🤦♀️
OMG! This video is making my road tire install PTSD kick in! Same thing, super hard, 30 mins per tire!!
cool vid and cool handlebars :)
06:40 was the most hilarious thing I’ve seen Phill do 😆
Tire direction rotation, I remember in the 80's or 90's some MTB racers mounted the tires wrong because they worked better that way. Foam inserts have been around for awhile but usually the intended purpose has been tube replacements for flat elimination, usually at a heavy weight price. The first I remember was called appropriately, No-Mor Flats. Expecting to see the review in August!
Michelin DH tires
Got to say it looks like hard work but very entertaining video, made me chuckle, not got the patients to do this, so off to the bike shop for me LOL
Thanks for a realistic tire video. And hey, now you're ready to mount moto dirt tires!
nice work thx for bringing on the reality! that helped a lot!
Nightmare tire work 😯 It will be interesting to know how it rides.
4:46 "Holy Crap!" Lol dude the look on your face :D you crack me up
Magic Mary's have got to be one of the hardest tyres I've ever had to put on a wheel. Couldn't imagine making it even harder with those inserts!
Not sure I would put a clamp on such rims but, that was a noble hack. Beats the 2 spoon shuffle.
Love the sealant suck up technique!
I bought a set of these from Cush Core 6 months ago in Oregon . They installed them for me . This past week I needed to replace my tires. The front tire was bitch to break the bead . The Cush core pushes against the bead that your trying to break lose. And Bontrager rims and tires are already hard to break lose with no Cush Core working against you , I almost cut the tire but I was able to break the bead and get it off and get the new tire on I left the Cush Core off the front to see if I could tell a big difference. It was a huge difference but I could tell the front had less cushion. Today I wanted to replace the rear tire thought I would be even better at it since I did the front. Today I cut the tire off. I just could not get the bead to separate from the rim and the Cush Core doesn't help at all. After today these Cush Cores are not going back on my bike. Its not worth the hassle for what they give you in performance . And yes you can forget about trying to fix a flat on the trail you better have a plug system which I do carry. You will be hard pressed to get a new tube in there on the trail. They do increase dampening and they push the corners of the tire out which helps a bit in cornering . But its not a huge difference. It was easy for me to decide when I had to put new tires on. I have been putting tires on for about 30 years with no issues until today. Maybe Your rims may make it easier but the Bontrager rims a super hard to break the bead. I just don't want to work so hard and hassle with it . If I was racing and needed ever bit of edge over competition I may use them maybe not they are not easy to remove.
Sick mustache dude🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
50/50 on tire direction.... NAILED IT! =)
LOL!! Thanks for watching until the end. Anyway, I checked before the install, but I've made the mistake before.
....yep, me too.
Dude I feel buggered just watching that install process! Be interesting to know your thoughts on it tho 🤘
Just did it front and rear and new tires today. Not that bad, but I work with my hands a lot as a tree climber, so wrist strength was a non issue for me.
Pro tip though: warm both the core and the tire in your dryer first.
Looking forward to hearing your opinion, these have been popular with moto guys for a while
This is the funniest vid by Phil. hahaha awesome.
Hmm. This is intriguing. I'm pretty new to MTB, so I'm not sure I would even need anything like this. But I did look at their web site. Right now, they don't have a product that's optimized for my plus size tires, but their current product will fit my Fuse. I think I'll just wait until October when they're expected to introduce their 27.5+ product.
wondering if the sealant is able to make its way past the cush core... and into the "air" volume part of the tire... where it would do it's job... instead of chillin' in between the cush core and the rim...
+The MTB Crashing Dad it did, very slowly. That was the most frustrating part
It's %#! Getting a tire on/off these carbon rims. Glad I figured it out at home instead of Moab. Hey Phil use two tire levers on that last section...makes it a little easier
9:23 I lol'd. I hope you did editing it ha!
Do you think it's worth running the Cush core in both front and rear wheels or maybe just in the rear? Also, love the videos! Keep up the good work!
THAT was entertainment!! Nice video. I sure hope you never flat on the trail......unless you pack 10 tire levers and a wood clamp. LOL!
laughing my butt off... I'm going through the same install right now, but having an even harder time than you. got the first bead on, but noticed I had the rotation the wrong direction 🤦♂️ the upside is, usps knocked on my door with the actual valves as I was starting over. I almost have the second bead on now, but have broken 3 tire levers and spent about 4 hours on it. This product has caused me to have an existential crisis.
RGMTB did this same project, and he recommended buying metal tire levers so that you can do this without breaking them. Good luck, Tim!
RGCastro7 thanks, have a wide assortment coming from Amazon on Tuesday 😂
Tim Pankratz pedros make the best plastic tyre levers
I know it's a month later but make sure you put tape around the end of the tyre level so you don't scratch the rims!!
Legend says he's still installing the tire
Lol, you reminded me of Fro Knows Photo when you did the sniff test!!! BTW, you forgot to put on the Cushcore stickers Phil 😬😬
lol I love the use of the clamp
you've covered the most important point, what's it smell like.... Hmmm, A sharpie, I'm sold!
Wow, Phil I hope the Cush Core works because if you still get a flat on the trail you day is done with that installation !!
Haha yeah, but you're much less likely to flat with the cush core. So it's a fair trade off.
Skills With Phil how are you less likely to get a flat?
Mtb Wheelie Nut does have a point since of the four flats I've had since I've been running tubeless (all of which destroyed my tires) two were cuts that this foam would have done nothing to prevent. An Hans Dampf SG and a Michelin Wild Grip'R2 that got pierced by some sharp rocks.
I have a feeling Cush Core will be worth all that work, however if I ever buy some I'll be thanking my local bike shop for putting them on!
Struggling to get a tyre on a rim..... been there, done that, will have to do it again very soon when I attempt a tubeless conversion on my 29er. The tyres went on the standard 19mm rim width okay but when I try to fit the same tyres to my new wheelset with 25mm rim width my experience was virtually identical to to this video.
Just want to make a suggestion,if you cover you rotor with a plastic bag,and spray the inside of your tire,and the rim with dry silicone spray before inserting the foam insert,it will make life easier to get the tire on,but remember to completey cover the rotor befor applying the dry spray silicone.
Am i getting this right? If the tire is on one side still a bit outside of the rim while it's fitting well on the other side, I have to drag some of the tire material to the not so well fitting side? Or do I have to push the tire a bit closer to the rim's center on that side? (Not a native speaker lol)
I was contemplating getting some of these until I saw this video but this is a lot harder to setup then tubeless (well it looks that way anyway) thanks for the insight
good video, I've heard they're a pain to put on... super cool shirt I want one!
nice work dude
Thanks Ali!
I really like this product. Seems expensive but will save way more expensive rims while giving you better traction/control. My install went WAY easier.
haha, I feel your pain Phil, it took me almost an hr to do one wheel!
Magic Mary is like the hardest tire to put on with tire inserts. I have gravity casing and it took me forever + 2 broken tire levers to + another person to put them on.
Wow, that reminds me of fitting first generation tubeless tires or ultra heavy casing downhill tires. I see the potential for this product though and look forward to your review. Price seems way to high considering what it is though...
+Curtis Gillen that is not too far off what was going through my head as well. Expensive, but will save your expenses ass wheels in the long run, but definitely not for everyone.
these look cool!!
I just got them so how was the ride after 2 months testing?
Dude your videos are spot on! Sniffing on the sharpie!! Oh yeah. hahaha
Based on this video I’m going with Vittoria Air liner! Cheers mate!
"little bit of elbow grease" understatement of the year haha
Danm phil, your arms must be jacked after doing both of those! lol
you do great videos more detailed then others and that's good ...send it ...ride it out
Why did you change tire brand/model? I've never ran a schwalbe, one day i'll try it. I'm looking forward to your opinion on this.
Dang! I hope you never get a flat on the trail...
Sweetbutterflykripperino can still get flats
Sweetbutterflykripperino So funny that people believe, when you run tubeless tires, you will never have a flat again.
Lukas Radzimski you will never have a flat caused by a hole in the tube. However, you will get flats caused by holes in the tire that are too big for sealant to seal, in which case you will need to take the tire off and put a spare tube inside.
Mtb Wheelie Nut which would suuuuuuck
Mtb Wheelie Nut nah just use a tyre plug and to inflate
are those the snakeskin magic marys or the super gravity casing..? i usually run the super gravity ones as i never get punctures with them however they are painfull to get on the rim and to set up tubless.
I use ProCore since last September. It is also hard to get it on the rim and even harder to put the tire on, even on wide 30mm rims. What I want to know from this product is how good you can get the tires down from the wheels because at this point the ProCore try to teach you how the hell would feels like. I also interested in how much it actually can prevent the damage to the rim because the hug Norris looks more appalling to me for fast tire swap.
Look into getting a kool stop tire jack. I had the same problem with road tires. I worked on them for about 3 hours with no luck. The tire jack had them on in less than five minutes.
+Cycling Product Reviews I have one in my Amazon cart already. Went to the bike shop while I was making this to see if they had one in stock!!
Skills With Phil it is a lifesaver!