Stake Out Pole Vs Anchor - When to Use Each
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2019
- The dilemma is when to use a stake out pole vs anchor. A kayak anchor pin can be a hassle since it is an additional item to include in your fishing kayak setup, but if you fish in shallow water, it can be a real advantage over an anchor trolley mounted kayak anchor.
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Good information about not using scupper holes. Thanks
I like this video because you explained why use the scupper hole for a stakeout pole. I went on my first kayak fishing trip in Florida and I hired a guide. He provided everything, including the stakeout pole. He said to use the scupper hole. I will not be using the scupper hole. Thanks for the heads up. You always have such common sense solutions.
I use a 6 dollar plant stake , just have a loop of line attached to two cleats on side of kayak by my seat . No noise from rubbing. Do however have a plow style anchor too. Great info as always , set the hook brother
Each has it's place. Just yesterday, I wanted to plant my stake in a spot and the sand was packed too hard. Had to use the anchor
Yeah the anchor trolley never made sense to me. I just have a cleat at the front, back and side of the kayak so I can tie off whatever instead of using a trolley just untie and rehitch
I have applied a bunch of your tips to my adventures, thank you for your videos! So very helpful to me an tons of other people!
I really appreciate that! I'll work even harder!
Great video. An advantage of the stake out pole is you can use it as a quick brake and if needed you can use it as a push pole.
Great point! Thanks
We’re about to hop on the Yak Fishing train. Thank you for all the tips and tricks 🙏🏼
Have fun!
New to kayak fishing and always assumed pole through scupper hole would work best. Thanks for the cracking info. I'll look for an anchor ring solution!
Thanks for your advised! Take care bro~!
This was a great video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks!
Thanks for the tip about not using the scupper hole. You helped save my investment
No problem 👍
I use my stake out pole on calm wind and the anchor in super windy days. I prefer the stake out pole, it’s more practical on the flats. Nice information.
Great point on the wind - same with a strong tide we you and I fish.
Thank you
You're welcome
Excellent advice. I going to install a anchor trolley before spring. However, I do fish the shallows at times and I know an anchor won’t work. It looks like I should utilize a stakeout pole and an anchor. Thank you for your excellent advice and perspective.
Yes, when I know I will fish shallow, I take both. That way I have the anchor for when the tide rolls in.
I used 8lb & 12lb mushroom anchors for my boats, and the stakeout pole for the kayak. The stakeout pole is a lot easier to deal with and stow in the limited space on a kayak. Using the wide top "handle" of the YakGear stakeout pole also comes in handy when pushing-off from banks/shorelines in really shallow water (hull is aground).
uh oh... Navy guy grounding his ship!! lol
@@KayakhacksFishing 👍😎 I try not do that. It keeps me from relieving myself of command. :)
Do you need a rope on the anchor pole if your only using it through the anchor trolly ring? Good video! Just subscribed!
Yes. You never know when you will drop it :-) Thanks for supporting the channel!
I connect my anchor line to my anchor trolley. Then when the anchor is in place either in front or behind me I draw up the excess line and tie it off. In faster moving water this really works or if the sea floor is really rocky.
Is that a diy phone holder from the beginning of the video. Do you have a link to your video for building one.
Yes - here is the link - czcams.com/video/yVnWF6NKrJ0/video.html
I like that stakeout pole. Did you make it? If so is there a video showing how you made it? I want one but hate paying KBF a fortune for a piece of plastic
Yes - czcams.com/video/pABrekhvAJ8/video.html - but... Don't get the pole from AM Leonard any longer. They no longer have cheap shipping. Others said to get the same type of pole at Home Depot or Lowes. I have part 2 of the build posting on Sunday
I've been wondering about a stakeout pole that would fit right through a scupper. But, thinking about it more, that'd be a really bad idea to put something that migh damage the kayak inside the scupper.
Yes, the plastic inside the scupper is thin and weak.
I have med tubing Loosely tied to my ring and pass my pole through its loop rather than the ring itself. It works well here on the Cajun Coast east of you. 👍🏻🇺🇸⚔️🇺🇸
Great alternative!
What depth would you say to ditch the stakeout pole and go with the anchor? I have a 12 foot stakeout pole where I only use up to 7 feet and still have enough room to dig it into the ground and still have room to pull out.
I stop using mine when only 2 feet is showing above the water
I think Hobie scupper holes are stronger than others they sell the carts that go through the scuppers and looks like they are reinforced.
I would still be very careful.
Good information! What about the maximum length of the pole? I lost two anchors because of the rubbish/stones.
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When fishing shallow water, I'm usually in 1' - 3' depths. My stakeout pole is 6' long.
yakgear.com/product/yakgear-yakstick-floating-stake-out-stick/
Here in the states, you can buy them in lengths up to 3 meters. I am using a 1.8m pole because the water is shallow where I fish and do not need any more than that. The problem with a long pole is keeping it out of the way on the kayak. But... if I had to offer an opinion, I would assume at least 0.3m into the mud (these will not work on rocky bottoms) and then add additional length based on the typical depth with at least 0.15m above the gunnel of your kayak. So, if you typically fish in water that is 1.5m deep, you would need 1.5 + 0.15 + 0.3 = 1.95m plus the distance between the water line and your gunnel.
@@KayakhacksFishing What is this "meters" thing you keep mentioning? :)
lol! Just trying to be international!
@@KayakhacksFishing 👍😎
I also have the $6 plant stake. Do you put the pole straight through the ring in the anchor trolley?
Yes. I find that is easier to manage it than tying it to the kayak with a rope
@@KayakhacksFishing Thanks! I have the 2019 Hobie Outback, but with the new 360 Drive, well, I gotta get the new one! I don’t use a stakeout pole much due to the drive, but I think there are times it will be useful. And I find anchors really never did what I wanted.
Another terrific post!
I LOVE that you don’t have long prefaces about why you haven’t posted in a while, etc. All useful info!
lol! Yes, just get to the point I dumped my intro segment a while back.
I noticed you were using a Bruce anchor is it better than a grapnel for inshore fishing?
I really like this version for its simplicity, but either model works just fine.
Charles Cox I also us a Bruce. Used to use a grapnel but the Bruce seems to hold a lot stronger. I do have a few ft of chain on it as well.
I’ve been out in 2-3 foot waves 🌊 no way anchor was working. On a sit inside kayak. It was just being dragged. The stake out pole would just rip up too.
I ended up timing it for the lower part of the wave and stab angling the state out pole then leaving enough rope to wait then tying the rope. The angle 📐of the stake held and I was bobbing like a bobber on crack!
Fun day I had to keep going to shore to drain my kayak from almost sinking atleast 3 times but was the funnest time I ever had on kayak to that point. Caught my limit then relaxed feeling great knowing I was having a blast doing what others out there gave up on.
I hate waves... I get seasick
I use both methods. I’m a river rat, mostly. Bottom is rocky and sandy in most places so the stake out pole is not an option. Anchor is a must in my rivers. Stake out works for local lakes and ponds. I have used the fiberglass poles from Lowe’s, made PVC poles with dowels inside for a bit more stability, and also use a retractable paint roller when I need more than 10 feet. The paint roller is definitely the most expensive of these. You can grind a point on the end or create whatever type “point” you like. Thin and sharp or wider and more broad for better holding power in the muck of softer bottoms.
I tried a golf ball retriever once as well
Kayak Hacks Fishing, now that is a great idea, too!!! Cheaper than paint roller, for sure.
Are you really driving the stake out pole through anchor ring? Or running the stake out pole line to the anchor ring?
Yes, the pole goes through the anchor ring so I can adjust the angle of the kayak.
@@KayakhacksFishing just worried it could be disastrous if a you catch a big fish or a waves. If you move the ring (along with the pole) to the front or back, it could be hard to quick release yourself ...
@@rfphill You make a great point! I always have my anchor rigged for quick release. Never thought about the pole.