Why Fernando Alonso’s threatened ‘consequences’ over Red Bull F1 rumour
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- Few drivers take issue with F1 rumour mongering quite like Fernando Alonso, and he’s made it crystal clear how unhappy he is with speculation he could make a SENSATIONAL switch to Red Bull.
Alonso’s even promised to make sure there are “consequences”. Who for, and what exactly those consequences could be, we don’t know.
But whether it’s putting some pressure on behind the scenes or simply freezing out any journalists or media outlets who have wronged him, Alonso sounds upset enough over this to follow through with his threat.
00:00 Alonso's anger
03:39 Would be abandon Aston Martin?
06:56 Not on Red Bull's radar
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Love him or hate him Fernando is not only one of the best drivers the sport has ever had but also one of the best characters, his career will be spoken of for decades to come after he retires and rightfully so. Should he have won more races and championships? absolutely, but 99% of racing drivers would bite your hand off to have the career and talent Fernando has had.
It was so awesome seeing Alonso on the podium at the start of the year. Seeing AM fall so far back has been really surprising, and it goes to show how difficult it is to build a championship car- and maintain it throughout the season.
Can't help but think it would have been easier to develop the car with a world class driver in place of stroll
I can’t believe anyone thought he’d get a win this season. It was obviously just tracing point 2.0 and AM doesn’t actually know how to develop a car
@@Mytube6138tracing point did get a win
@@Mytube6138this. AM was miles off RB, it was mostly Ferrari and Mercedes being extremly bad, not AM being that good.
No, the green RB @@Mytube6138
Seriously I don't understand what's up with these people who tell one rumour and then everyone believes it'll happen . And how can people who believe these rumours who come every day fall for it when there's no guarantee ?
I read that rumours and gossip have been crucial to homo sapiens evolution. So I guess we have it in our ancient DNA 😅
Tbh max hates it when he’s challenged
It works. Presidents are elected this way.
This is modern day reporting
Well, original tweet implied either Perez or Alonso retiring, not any of them moving to another team (the guy would be excited if that was the case). Idk why people took it so far.
Alonso doesn't like playing second fiddle to anyone. He would not be happy as no2 at RB which would cause a lot of problems. His time at McLaren with Lewis resulted in bad feeling through out the team. He would also be a serious challenge to Max and we can't have that now can we.
He wouldn’t be a challenge to max
Max wouldn’t be a challenge for Fernando
I think the hot head he was died off but his driver skill has not. Marko isn't really wrong in considering him, since given his time at Aston, he has proven to have matured quite a bit. Two really strong drivers is better than one in a strategic perspective since it allows constructors championships. Even when you might end up getting outdone by Mercedes.
Need another Lewis Nico team battle
For me it seems that Max would enjoy competing against Alonso, and certainly he has no fear.
@@jarofflies1 Soon enough some strategy would benefit Alonso more and all hell would break loose. Alonso himself would struggle in a team so centered around Max.
Maybe Alonso is upset because the rumor is stressing out his crew at Aston. They have enough stress with performance falling off a cliff and now these rumors. He’s also friends with Perez and may not like how its just more piling on him. I really hope it’s not Albert spreading the rumors.
Exactly
Crazy that The Race is using F1 video game to create their Alonso in a Red Bull videos 😂😂
Alonso would never play second fiddle to Verstappe, nor would Verstappen do the same for Alonso.
This
And it would be amusing to watch, as a non RBR fan. Lol
Second? Alonso? 😂 He would eat Max alive if he get in that car 😂
@@emsan54No he wouldn't. I'm not a Max fan, nor am I an Alonso fan, but Alonso, while arguably an equal or greater talent than Max, is not at his peak, and Max is getting to his.
Imagine us all treating Fernando like he's some 20+ year old driver, he's 42 demit. Let's see how the other guys at 42
I think Alonso is the best F1 driver since Senna. He hasn't had the same level of success as others, but give him a package that works and he's still right up there toe to toe with the best of them. An incredible talent, and a true gladiator.
I saw someone create an ELO system for F1 drivers, and apparently Alonso is considered the GOAT by the system. While it's not extremely accurate I'm not really surprised by that result... However Max is pretty damn high in the system too, came like 4th among all drivers ever
lol yet Lewis beat him in the same car, as a rookie
@@brandodurham5 year-old comment right here🔝
Lewis is better than Alonso, sorry
@@emersoncaicedo3146if Alonso had the same package as Hamilton, my money is on Alonso.
IF he does end up going to Red Bull, this is going to be the funniest video 😂😂
Lawrence stroll really effed up if that happens
The Streisand effect is big with this one.
Honestly, Fabrega never mentioned Alonso… or anything, really. He could’ve been talking just about Checo being kicked out or even the replacement of the Mexico City gp. A Mexican journalist (chacho lopez) later quoted Fabrega and said “I heard the rumor too, I hope it’s not true as well.” So the outside media has been the one making a big deal out of nothing IMO.
Probably more related to a potential retirement, which I don't see either, at least if Fernando's not willing to.
The rumour could be literally anything, and "Alonso to RB" honesty sounds as likely as "Hamilton to Ferrari" lmao
The problem is they didn't elaborate on what the rumor was. People already knew Perez's replacement/retirement rumor, then people started new rumors like Aston Martin is being sold to Aramco, Michael Schumacher's condition, Abu Dhabi GP is cancelled, etc
0:42 guys... READ!
"I would not like it to happen" I doubt he means he doesnt want alonso in RB.. besides he is not some journalist, he used to be a mechanic and even a chief mechanic in f1.
But he also said: "I hope it remains a rumor". So he also doesn't want it?
This has got so much attention that it’s just going to encourage more people to say “oh I’ve heard a rumour” and they never even have to say what it is anymore 😒
“Follow through on his fret” wow I didn’t even know he played guitar!!
Red Bull could gift us the best team fight of history, but instead, they put these long series of teammates that are just "fine". That would bite them in the S next year with Russell and the Hamboy.
Or others. Ferrari and McLaren have excellent pairings too
A strong number 1 + a competent number 2 is the best recipe for titles. Team harmony will soon collapse if you have two strong number ones.
@@barcafan94 That's where the competence part comes in.
When Red Bull said they'd be keeping Gasly & Albon when they were driving for Red Bull, it was Horner saying that. But we all know the person who's making the decisions to drop drivers is Helmut Marko. That to me indicates that Helbut & Christian aren't in synch when it comes to the second Red Bull seat, and if Checo were to be dropped, it would be Helmut's decision. I'm sure Horner would happily keep Checo on for 2024, if it were up to him.
I’m thinking there’s a little power struggle going on since Dietrich’s passing
Marko did say at the start of the season that De Vries will be the AT lead driver. That didn’t last long, either. Marko and Horner are in sync. They also change their minds quickly.
@@flimgenco the just want the best fit for their cars and now Perez is the worst by far, they should give Daniel that RB seat, bring Lawson to Alpha Tauri and ditch Perez for good.
I think we've got to the new era of F1 and they should start thinking how many more championships Max will win while polish the talented young drivers on the back of the stage...
@@Wherestheredwave Everyone knows that any power Helmut had in the RBR organization was due to his buddy Mateschitz backing him. Without the protection of the man on top, to say his word doesn't hold the weight it used to may be a masterpiece in understatement.
Lol Helmut burning bridges
Red bull move is impossible.
Red bull would never do such a thing. They would never do anything that could jeopardize their relationship with Max.
I love how @the race says Alonso move to Red Bull is unlikely, while they proceed to show altered images and video of him in Red Bull racing suits and Red Bull car with his racing #14 😂
I suspect The Race may be doing it to somewhat prove a point; Manbaby, who shall not be mentioned by name without his prior permission, cannot stop public speculation/discussion about his public career.
Those videogame clips were quite cheesy imo.
No other driver on the grid fits Red Bull's brand image as well as Alonso. I would love to see him there. It would make F1 at least twice as interesting.
I'm sorry but this is the dumbest thing I've heard in the media: "Given a Red Bull move should be right up Alonso's alley, you might think that he'd only react this badly to being linked with one if it was actually possible and he's annoyed it's been leaked, otherwise why would Alonso possibly have a problem with people starting to suggest he could or should be a target..." - NO Numbnuts - for self-respecting people it's EXTREMELY annoying to be linked to a promotion when you know the promotion cannot and will not actually happen, especially when you'd love to have that promotion, but you know it's not possible (as is the case with Alonso, as Honda banned him from driving any cars they supply engine for for his comments back in the day when they supplied an awful engine). It's annoying when people have a short memory and then start absurd rumours which neither make logically sense, nor are possible because of other clearly stated public reasons. But when alonso is pissed about having to negate something absurd and then even more absurd comments from the media come like the currently mentioned one - then you gotta be furious... I WOULD BE. I WOULD TAKE MY THREATS SERIOUSLY (SORRY BUT...)
fernando and max would litteraly be my dream lineup been a fernando fan since i was 3 years old when he came into the sport and gotta support max cus dutch ofc
I had such high hopes for Checo at Red Bull but I wouldn’t understand if he kept the seat at this point. His dramatic inconsistency can’t be the best option. If another team steps up and closes some of that gap in performance, Red Bull have got to have someone to run consistently with that challenge.
Great summary of British “media”.
This one didn't come from Britain.
Alonso going to Red Bull wouldn’t be a long term thing. It would be a one year contract as a gift to a man who is widely regarded as one of the greatest ever to go up against the current best. That’s something the fans have wanted to see ever since 2008 when Alonso was back with Renault. Alonso is obsessed with proving he can win and is the best out there on track. I believe he would jump at this opportunity right now if given to him.
I’m curious if there’s a way that Red Bull could make a swap with Alpha Tauri for next year. Honoring Perez’s contract and supplying a seat, but downgrading him based on performance.
The guy said literally NOTHING on those tweets.
"people piggybacking onto his reputation are just asking to be on his bad side."
But actually - nearly the same situation but reversed.
3:53 The Race always has the most off the mark takes by miles. We fans only dream that one of the best drivers in years has for once a decent car to challenge for the WC or races. Simple.
I’m a Red Bull fan and I absolutely love Alonso as a driver, it’d be a dream come true to see him at RB
The amount of hype behind an Alonso to RB move is fucking HUGE. That would literally be the best thing that's happened in F1 in years, just like it would've been huge for him to move to Merc 3-8 years ago.
Alonso wants to be NO. 1 one more time, at his age and time spent in the F1 lineup him winning the drivers championship would get him in the halls of legends.
EL PLAN is moving along..
Love Checo Perez. I'd really love to see Fernando in the red bull but as soon as I heard this rumour i was like "nah. Zero chance of that."
I think maybe Alonso and Marko did meet, under NDA obviously, and Marko is saying "you breach the NDA" and Alonso is saying "no I did not, and will find who's responsible" but it's just a tough.
British media absolutely loves Alonso's rants
I’m struggling with the idea that Red Bull would even have Alonso at this point. I’m not convinced that they can handle having two irrationally competitive drivers who would refuse to back down to the other. Perez clearly isn’t in the same league but he’s good enough to support Red Bull in the constructor’s title, which is all they need even if a notch up in skill would be preferred. Ricciardo seems to be the perfect option at this point if Checo isn’t cutting it.
He's now matched Perez' tally of podiums after the magical last lap at Interlagos.
I think the only one who could be a threat to Max in the same car is Alonso. Would love to see this
Both McLaren drivers, really. But they’d never make that switch.
And a big threat he would be!!!!
I want alonso in a competitive car so bad
Alonso was angry due to lies making him look disloyal. Maybe you eventually mentioned it but I gave up halfway through.
Anyone else chuckle at the “driver contract expiration dates” 7:15 at seeing the date next to Stroll just say “rolling?”
Horner and Marko are like the F1 management version of Good Cop - Bad Cop
AMR have still made a massive leap forward compared to both 21 and 22, and is back to having the second best car behind the big 3 like in 2020 (McLaren had a better car in 2020 but worse engine hence being slower) and this is their own development and not a Merc clone
This is by far the best car they’ve designed since the take-over, and they don’t even have the wind tunnel yet.
I don’t know if AMR will be able to challenge Ferrari/Merc/Mclaren next year but i’d be very surprised if they weren't comfortably in the top 5 teams come the end of next year, rather than relying on early season gains like this year
Perhaps he just doesn’t like being lied about, regardless of whether the lie makes him look good or bad. And as far as consequences…. I don’t know about European laws but Slander and Libel are obviously actionable in court. The F1 rumor-mill gets completely out of control and various media are constantly running with stories that have no basis in fact. I don’t blame him for being pissed.
Using the f123 game as an illustration of sorts to see Alonso in Red bull colours is plain lazy and low calibre at best. You’re better than this guys.
Man people pining this to Albert is crazy, he said right after he saw people where going crazy over his twitt that it wasn't about drivers changes or anything, it was just a F1 change he doesn't like. really all the drama came from Will buxton quoting the twitt, there the crazy checo haters and alonso fanboys went crazy
Horner and Helmet don't like the fans enough to pair up Verstappen and Alonso
Media attacks on Latin drivers starting the season from Carlos Sainz then Perez and now Alonso... media influencing is one of tools lobbying drivers market which the best drivers (ethnic) in the current market
Didn't Christian Horner say he would rather avoid having two 'alpha' drivers in his team as it could tear the outfit apart?
Long term. This would be a season likely.
Thanks so much for this video. The perspectives you have put forward are consistent with my thoughts on the matter!
Alonso and Verstapen in redbull = fun carnage 😁
Would be like Senna and 2002 Schumacher in the same machinery
PLEASE BRING ALONSO AT REDBULL!!!!
Max and Alonso would be a nightmare driver pairing. Tbh Max Verstappen and basically anyone who could actually compete against him in the 2nd RB car is a nightmare pairing. 😅
The thing is that with the other cars starting to catch up, they NEED a competent driver to play 1-2 on race starts and strategy. They don't have that in the current rb form.
I really hope all the click bait channels get. Demonized. They really need to go away
What have you done Alberto? You don't want to piss off Alsonso. That's going to be an awkward moment in the paddock...
Ok so a little inside that maybe can give you some light, in Brazil the biggest motorsport podcast is called "Pilas Pistas" and is hosted by Nelson Piquet Jr ( yep that one, former Alonso teammate) and Christian Fittipaldi, and for a while now they have been talking about this move of Alonso to RBR (they also talked about Lance wanting to retire and a bunch o speculation) and on the last episode Piquet Jr specifically said that he asked Max about (he is his brother in law) and Verstappen said that the deal will not go through. I mean I don't know with that is the case, but is someone "inside" the paddock that was looking for rumours.
I long for the time when F.1 used to be about drivers actually racing. On tracks.
Just swap Alonso for Perez
Both speak spanish - nothing changes there
But we would have a championship fight till the last race
Horner has even said himself too number 1s in the team don’t work. Can’t believe people generally think Alonso is going too Redbull won’t happen.
Very nice to watch. Love the overlay. Car runs warm huh? Very cool!
ALO is right. Social Media, Journo's race to be first etc. is completely out of hand. Compared to other professional sports it's shambles..
There's no reason at all to bring Alonso over to RBR. They'll be looking to add Leclerc or Norris in 2025.
Its the fact that even will buxton was adding more fuel to the fire with the gifs on Twitter
Oooh, the "consequences". Can't wait. 🤣🤣🤣
Obviously Nando is done with Aston Martin. When he signed up, he couldn't have known that they're going to sever ties with their engine supplier, leaving the team "in limbo" for the next two years. Can't see him twiddling his thumbs, waiting for Honda to "right the ship".
Red Bull's dominance is very likely to continue for the next two years and they can easily afford the odd clash between teammates (something Nando's isn't known for actually, way too professional) and if they want him, I'm sure he'd take it upon himself to resolve any contractual obligations he may have with Stroll's outfit.
Gawd knows, Red Bull could do with some good PR after treating their #2 driver like a "floormat"... and TBH, it doesn't get more sensational than signing Nando and grace Formula 1 with the greatest spectacle since Ron Dennis paired Alain Prost with Ayrton Senna in the MP4/4, having the best two drivers duking it out on track in equal machinery. The whole sordid Checo saga would be forgotten in a heartbeat.
Great post!
Piquet Jr. has a weekly podcast in Brazil and on this week's episode he has stated that an Alonso's move to RB is completely out of the cards. He said he got the information directly from his bro-in-law, Max Verstappen.
Inside football!
Max needs to use his position and do a rocky 5
Can you imagine it
2007 all over again
Or beats max to retire with 2 fingers up saying he’s literally top dog
Literally any other competitive team. RB has a significant track record back to even 05 when they came in of “if you’re not younger than 28 and 5 seconds in front of the field, we will not support you”
Thanks 👍
The first two and a half minutes...didnt you guys have a vid up on this within hours?
Alonso is reacting to Marko... and Marko needs to watch out
One of the best drivers in F1 _history by far._ FTFY
Never denied the rumour did he
Fabrega should of been better off not saying anything rather than posting that tweet, if you don't want to discuss a topic then don't talk about it in the first place.
I'm gonna keep saying it. See if I can get an alonso consequence 😅
The reason Alonso is so annoyed and why he wants to take legal action is the “journalists” he is talking about who “leaked” this information are the same journalists who were paid by Alpine to run the story that Fernando was slowing down in his old age and the wasn’t as competitive as he used to he as he got older the year Fernando was in contract negotiations with them (and Subsequently Aston). Alpine paid for the articles and referenced them in negotiations to drive down their offer to Fernando. So these comments are not him being directly offended by these comments but more having the excuse to get back at the “journalists and outlets” who took money to screw him over previously
Alonso didn’t have much to say when there were rumours of him dating Taylor Swift
Albert could just be taking about Checo being replaced and not necessarily by Alonso!
Alonso at RB will give Max a run for his money.
I can't imagine Alonso taking a role where he isn't guaranteed #1 status in the team, let alone one where he would be the team's #2 driver as he would be at Red Bull. Besides which, RB already has too many drivers.
He probably prefers being nr1 at aston than being nr2 at red bull. And who can blame him. He has a decent teammate who won't question him and he gets to drive and have an entire team support him since his teammate doesn't use much resources (in terms of strategy).
Disagree. Alonso burns to be in a car that can show his talent. He doesn't want to fade out near the end of the midfield. The RB would be a car he has deserved for decades.
Shows how shit the season has been when this is the news…
If there was no smoke at all to this story, he wouldn't react like that
Alonso at Red Bull would never work. Too much ego between the two drivers to manage. Which is a shame really because if he did end up at Red Bull would they win the constructors in 10 races? He better at Aston and help them build their program. So much jumping around in driver seats, changing teams etc.
So Perez just got the proverbial “vote of confidence “.
Alonso does look good in that RB merch tho.
The consequence will be Alonso photobombing the F1 tech talk segment.,
I can't believe for a moment Horner and Marko going "yeah, Max is having it too easy, let's bring in Alonso and spice things up."
No, that’s not it. More like they want a number 2 driver that can comfortably finish number 2 in the standings as well. Without being a headache for either Max or the team.
they need a 2nd driver that can at least finish on the podium regularly while driving the most dominant car in formula 1 history, perez can't do that unfortunately
@@barcafan94 makes zero sense. Liberty’s main objective is to put on a show. Making a dominant team even more dominant would go completely against that objective. Unless, that is, majority of their income now comes from Netflix, and that’s the main show they’re concerned about. Take 2016 for instance. It was a better show than the rest of the Mercedes championship seasons, but nothing memorable at all (except to fans who find Hamilton losing to a teammate memorable). We all just think 8 straight Merc titles.
@@barcafan94 no, that’s not a show. Nobody cares about 2016, while people still talk about 2021 today. A show is at least two teams competing. It’s not simply two drivers. If that’s what they’re gonna do, they might as well just run a single-spec series, problem solved. But that’s not what F1 is.
@@barcafan94 it’s a rumor, and it makes no sense. Stop spreading it.
Would be hilarious if those consequences were a move to Red Bull
As a Michigan fan, we understand. "Rumors" basically made up shit is now potentially fact. Its all for clickbait.
Its all about Liberty Media..
I swear.. Alonso is the diversion....
DR will not be going to RB....
He'll be a 1st driver in a RB / Andretti team, backed by US holders...
That means, 1 on 1 with max, or whom ever else...
F1 will expand.... And DR is RB's Gold mine..... Because its more than just racing now.
Why you ask?
Because it could actually be sensationally true!
Checo's insecurity will put his RB seat on jeopardy.
If Perez does well the coming three races he keeps the seat... but if he doesn't deliver in 2024 during the first half of the season, they're going to replace him with Ricciardo or the other AT driver... I say other because I see AT replacing Tsunoda with Lawson.
or maybe per will just get kicked entirely. but i don't think that will happen as per has a strong financial supporter that will probably kick his seat. so maybe he will just not be in a RB team at all. Tsunoda has been pretty consistent imo
So many variables so many opinions
Honda keeps Tsunoda in place. He would have to have a pretty horrible season to be replace midseason.
@@soundscape26 I'm not talking about midseason... I'm not even sure he will be driving next season! Tsunoda has been "consistent"... but not great, not strong enough for a seat at RB.
Nothing scarier for a RedBull sevond driver than the words "Our intention"
When the Taylor Swift rumours came out he definitely didn't threaten to sue 😅
I can understand why he's pissed off, it's going to start rumours in his own team. Not good.
Everybody knows red bull is going with Kimi
As a fan though, we'd love to see it.....
Are there options that are due to be negotiated on Alonso's contract...?
He's definitely going to red bull 😂
If he leaves AM, who is going to babysit Stroll?
Seems like it’s about that time of the year when Alonso gets upset. About anything.