Here's What It's Like To Buy A Cheap EV!
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2022
- Jennifer bought a used Fiat 500e as a functional city commuter! She goes into the process and first impressions of one of the most affordable EVs available.
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I’m addition to a Volt and Model Y, I have a 2015 500e with about 55k miles.
It’s my daily driver and I love it. I’m 6’ tall around 275 and although it is a little narrow, plenty of head room and easy to get in and out of. My commute is 20 miles round trip. Maybe 30 if I go out to lunch. Still plenty of a buffer for my needs.
As for range, the meter in the middle will show 80 to 100 miles. I ignore it. Basically I take the percentage and divide it in half as a rule of thumb. I can do over 60 miles on some drives but 50 is always a safe bet.
Loads of fun. Plenty quick up to around 40. Then adequate after that. Too easy to spin front tires. That’s my biggest complaint … having to replace them too often.
I’m in central Florida and the AC has no problem bringing the temperature down
We paid around $6500 for it about 3 years ago. Absolutely no regrets so far.
Good luck.
fellow volt owner here!
Bill Luke Fiat has a fleet of bricked 500Es. People park em and dont charge them. The batteries go bad and the cars are basically totaled. Costs about 75% of the car to replace the batteries.
I bought a 2017 for 12k in Dec for my wife until her model y came in and it's the perfect short short trip. But for my wife it was 6 dollars a week you can't beat that. Its a fun go kart for the street . I wish it had fast charging.
Got my 2016 500e back in 2019 for 7k. Fun little go cart for around town. If I baby it I can get just about 90 miles in town but usually get more like 70 miles of range around town with no freeway driving. Costs me about 3 bucks to fully charge at home here in SoCal which is far better than gas. 3 bucks of gas would get us about 10 miles in our explorer.
We bought our 2013 500e brand new. Almost 50k on it now. We drive it all the time, and absolutely love it. Btw, we've had 4 grown adults in it. It's doable, but... lol
It works for two adults you don't like
7 miles round trip? You have a perfectly good bike on the wall for that
That bike is not a good choice if you want to carry bulky cargo. Modification could be done, but it would be sketchy.
She is too posh to ride a bike to work lol
Also it is not as safe…
Dude there's people who take their cars from their back garage to their front mailbox just to pick up their mail. People are not going to take a bike to work when they have cars.
@@Cornelius87 that's why Americans are fatter than the rest of the world
Im 6'1" and I fit in my Abarth just fine. The handle on the front left corner raises and lowers the seat. Most people never see it.
Had a 2016 500e. Drove in about 20,000 miles in 2 years. I'm 6'4" and fit inside just fine. Had the same rotten issue on the weather stripping by the side mirrors. The parts were cheap and I replaced them myself. Also, had the same issue with the lower trim piece pulling away from the body. Super fun little car. I sold it waaaaaay too cheap right before used car pricing went nuts.
0:50 - Yep. We had a 2015 i3, and were looking to replace it with a used 2019 i3 earlier this year. It was cheaper to buy a brand new Mach-E than to buy a used i3!
Loved the i3. Nice small around-town car with tons of "zip". And when we bought ours (used, lease-return) it was a steal. But they want as much for a 2015 now as we paid for our 2015 four years ago! And the newer/better models were nearing new-vehicle prices, even for 2-year-old lease returns.
I notice too that the prices for the 2014 to 2016 i3 are about $19k and up and many have high mileage and no REx. The 2017 and above are all about $28k and above.
In early 2020 before the pandemic hit, prices for the 2014 to 2016 were $8k to $12k.
This is 2013 or 2015? So is the battery between 7-9 years old? The original battery still in it?
I have a 2019 i3s in nice shape and if Kyle wants to come to LA and rip it in the canyons and do a used ev review, I'm down with that 👍
My Fiat 500e has the same piece of weather strip rotted out. I drive 30 mi to work, charge at work. I'm 6 ft 2, it still has extra headroom. 100 mi range,, only if it's downhill at 30 mph all the way with a strong tailwind. Her 60 mile range estimate is good for mixed freeway and City. Less if it's mostly freeway, closer to 55. I don't think it's fair to call it slow 0 to 40 is spicy, drops off after that.
Bought my 2015 in 2020 for 7k out the door, with 20k mileage. Some drop off in range now, with 40k miles on the odo. Smartest 7k investment I ever made, and its' now my daily driver. Eclectic tire shredder!
I bought one similar for $7500 recently in socal because $4000 Edison ev rebate. I just bought it for fun because it's only $3500.
Great find, keep the videos coming doing an awesome job! :)
The wheels and tires are designed to maximize range in the little electric Fiat. If you can test out different wheel sizes, on the regular gas powered 500s (including the Abarth), the most comfortable and practical wheel/tire combination I've experienced up to now with my past rentals and current ownership are 195/45R16 tires on 16 inch rims.
The only problem today is finding 16 inch wheels with a 4x98 bolt pattern. You might have to buy steelies.
I had a 2013 500e I bought off lease and drove it for two years every day. I enjoyed it because it was fun to drive and being short and narrow, it fit into many parking spots that were too narrow for full size cars. Everyone at work tends to favor full size trucks so the Fiat fits.
I eventually wanted a car with fast charging, so I sold the Fiat
I own 2017 500e and I love it, bought a few years back to try electric and its my only car , i got it as my commute to work when i lived in NY was only 10 miles so it was perfect. But I now live in NJ and as my only car its range lets me down continually not being able to really go farther. Wish they would of put CSS on this little thing at least then, it might of been more functional.
I am having some suspension issues with it now, the front shocks seem to be going and I am getting a weird continual plop plop, sound when driving in the 20s , the faster i go it disappears so im wondering if thats coming from a bad bearing on one of the wheels hubs or front axle. Other than that its been a very good car to me. Probably will keep it as eventually I would like to remove the batteries for a solar setup.
Interesting to compare this with the new Fiat 500e that I drive, which was introduced here in the UK in late 2020. My car is about 10% larger with a 42 KWH battery and has quite brisk performance with range between 150 and 190 miles depending on time of year. Technical equipment on the car is impressive with all the usual mod-cons and latest safety features. I like everything about it.
Congrats, it is awesome and overall just a fun car to drive. Sales are gaining traction in Germany too!
We have a 2014 and would love a new one as well. I'm sure it's an awesome experience.
@@eMotoAZ They've just launched it in the USA and it should be available Q1 in 2024. Price is apparently $32,500 for the 42 kWh battery version. Hope you get a chance to drive one soon!
@@briangriffiths114 thank you for the information I appreciate the reply. And also thank you for hoping that I will experience the new 500e, my 2014 is a dream, I can only imagine how the new model is in comparison when you're actually the one sitting in the seat of your awesome ride. Great video
Who are these people? I'm not that new to this channel, but I never saw these people before, and there is no intro or anything, kinda strange 🤣
Don't worry, it's just basic gaslighting
i drove a nissan leaf for 4 years a 2019 and now i am driving a mustang mach e premium awd 2022
I've been using my used 2014 Fiat 500e here in North Idaho since 2017. I commuted 50 miles every day in all kinds of weather. Including blizzards. Paid 7k for it off a used car lot in Hayden Idaho. 65 miles range in snow/cold, 80-90 miles in summer. It now has 65K miles on it. Best car purchase I ever made. Never had a problem. It's sad they stopped making it in North America!
Thanks for the video. In addition to our Model Y, we have ordered a fiat 500e convertible as a daily driver for the city. We hope he still comes as promised in December 2022.
Wow, what a great deal and perfect for a daily commuter!
Once you get new non-aero wheel and sticky tires, expect the range to drop by as much as 10 to 15%.
I bought a 2017 for $6,200 our the door, back in Feb of 2020. Great little car, in the fall and spring i get about 5.5-5.8kwh/per mile. During winter 4.5 and summer same. Over all i am super happy, and since my electric rate is .082 cents per kwh you cant beat it!
That was a great deal, mine was 8K in 2018
5.5kWh/mi? Wow, you must really drive it hard!
@@rzu7120 you'd be surprise, how efficient it is, even when you drive it hard. I get such great consuption mainly becuase i dont use the very much.32 mile round trip all streets. Anyway cheers.
@@rp9674 yeah awesome deal, the market flooded with them after the 3 year leases expired.
Steering wheel cover is the same on mine. Its a 13 too. That stereo isnt Premium. The Beats stereo is the Premium. It has a subwoofer in the trunk.
Can't wait to see more adventures in your Fiat 500e and yes those Carpool stickers are a pain to remove. I removed the ones on mine too.
Bought a used 500e in 2018 for $10K. In 4 years of ownership, I've only had to buy a couple of rear light bulbs and a new set of tires. Really is the perfect city car - you can park it anywhere and fun to drive. Only challenge here is in Minnesota is in winter when the range takes a hit....when the temps gets below 0 F I don't expect more than 45 miles on a full charge.
Great video! Thanks
Are the used bolts still expensive in that area?? My dad got his 2017 bolt ev with 10500 miles in 2019. For just 24,000 $
Your dad can probably sell his car for the same price if not more on Carvana is today’s market. Then they gotta make profit off of that. Quick search shows a 2017 Bolt with 60k miles goes for $27,000 in LA
@@maccheese3190 nah we keeping ours for the long run with two bolts in the house. It's cheaper than fuel and very cheap for going to the beach. We'll are still going to keep our bolt evs.
@@dr.projectx5142 yeah, I wouldn’t sell either, no gas and no oil changes. Just answering your question “if bolts are still expensive”
Starting In Jan you can get a brand new bolt EV for 24k after the tax credit
@@doomsday9973 thats good. I'm good for now 2 bolts evs in the house.
If only Fiat 500es were that cheap in Charlotte…
I’ve been driving my 500e for nearly 2 years now. Great introduction to electric cars. I travel long distances on the weekends so it’s pretty painful I’ll have to get either a Tesla RWD or a Kia EV6.
30 mile commute each way. I charge at work. I get enough range to make it home and back to work the next day
Great video, we have a 2014 and they sure have really nice paint. Your review is exactly how we feel.
Perfect little commuter EV
I hope you enjoy your fiat! I bought a grey 2015 fiat 500e in 2017 for $9k….it was a cute car…..i have been driving it till i just got my new LRMY in may…..the only real issues i had were the seats…..i wish i had put seat covers on them……now the material has split…if you have a short commute its actually a great car….i live in so fla so i will be selling mine soon hopefully…..I’m having it detailed & a few small issues fixed… good luck!
Yes yes yes! Excellent choice. I have tje new 500e model overhere in Europe but this is really classy!
Why would you remove the HOV sticker? Aren't those worth money?
They look like 💩
Which Fiat 500e. There’s the original California compliance 500e, and there is the brand new 500e being sold in Italy and the rest of Europe now. Although they look the same, mechanically they are completely different cars. The new one is supposed to be good, but of course not sold outside of Europe. Please clarifying
Here's a hint: she lives in California.
Did you misspeak? Your work commute is 7 miles round trip?
You have nothing to complain about.
Exact mileage varies depending which route road construction and/or accidents compels me to take but it averages out to 27 miles each way.
Good luck with your commuter special!
I OWNED A 2017 500E FOR 8800 AND HAD 20,OOO MILES ON IT
Thanks for the information. This may work for me or something in that price range anyway, nice car.
nice find! yeah before the used car market went all crazy, i got my 2017 bolt for $15k with ~30,000 miles on it... now the same car and milage is $26k... 🤣🤣
What do you mean the mileage is $26k?
@@nitelite78 right now in my area a 2017 bolt with 30,000 miles is ~$26,000 vs 2 years ago $15,000
@@W4rH4wkXX Ah I see.
Got my 21 in March of 21 for $18k brand new. 🤫
Excellent theories. Thumbs up.
I am surprised you didn’t consider the original Ioniq EV. I bought a 2017 with only 6200 miles for 12k just before covid hit and sent prices soaring.
2017-2019 Ioniq is the BEST used EV ever. We have a used 2018 and it fast charges so quick it can road trip as good as our 2013 Tesla S
"O god, it's so slow" lol! coming from a Taycan 🤣🤣🤣 Expectation.
Well there goes any chance of any one of us buying that EV affordably
Sad, since she seems fairly critical of it and is using it as a beater
Who is Jennifer?!?
Why not get a cover for the car?
That would be an annoying pain in the ass to deal with putting that on and taking it off every single day.
Reminds me of Mini Cooper SE
The new BMW grille kinda looks beaver teeth to me.
BMW i3's are so expensive because they will stop producing it, right this year. The i3 will be a leyend for sure, so the prices are going high like crazy now.
The Fiat name carries lot of baggage obviously but this class of vehicle in EV form makes a lot of sense as a commuter/city vehicle at a very reasonable price. The Hong Guang Mini EV, manufactured by a GM partnership, is very popular in China and sells for about $6K.
Mostly in US, although the gas version of this generation of Fiats seem very popular here. Also, drive train by Bosch batteries by Samsung.
Iron nitride magnets can drastically improve the entire EV market for every make and model with smaller lighter motors without sacrificing power. Iron nitride magnets do not use rare earth metals which means no bad PR from environmental impacts and no bad PR from national security issues and they cost less than neodymium to boot. Do some research Niron Magnetics is making them let's get a revolution in EVs kicked off.
Cheap?? Here is like 37k euros!
I wish I could get an EV for that price in the UK
why not get a solar... or are they not lugz enough for you
Wow. I wish I was that seat belt 😍
Love evs
Don’t know who she is but she comes across as quite arrogant. Been subbed to the channel for couple of years but will put this presenter on permanent ignore.
It’s crazy that someone can be so rich they spend over 100k on a car only to buy ANOTHER car to drive lmfao
You just can't leave the Porsche in the sun, you know...
@@MrDgt66 that Porsche paint is awful quality I knowww 😂
I like this more than a Taycan. It attracts less attention from thieves and vandals.
If I own a car like this I would keep it as long as battery has more than 20 miles of range. Then if the range becomes 20 miles or less I would take the doors and hatch of, detune the power of the car to be slow and convert it to a golf cart. I don’t think anybody would have a cooler vehicle as a golf cart except somebody with historical Harley Davidson 4 wheels golf cart.
Nice FiFi . 🤩
2013 or 2015? You kept saying both years lol
9 year old battery pack? Interesting. Good review. Good luck.
Its cute
Thumbs up for more affordable content
Chevy Spark EV is a better value. You can find used examples at around the same price as what you paid here. It has 140 HP and 327 pound-feet of torque. Hot hatch acceleration and lots of fun to drive. Way more room inside than Fiat 500e. DC fast charging is an option so if you find one with it you can extend your range beyond the EPA rated 82 miles. Perfect inexpensive city car and long range capable with CCS charging.
More expensive and slower L2 charging. It would be nice to have DC fast charging but those reasons were enough for me to get the Fiat, plus I prefer the look of it
@@rp9674 Chevy Spark has 12 amp AC charging at 110v and a 16 amp charge at 220v maxes out the charger at 3.3kw. After a full day of driving down to 10% I'm back to 100% in 5.5 hours. I know because I have one. Even if you plug in at midnight, you're going to be done when you wake up. Fiat 500 styling is cute. Servicing and reliability issues make it not so cute in the long run.
@@randorecumbent anything's possible, I've had my 2015 Fiat for 3 years 11 months, 59,000 MI, I had alignment purchase tires and wiper fluid. No dc, but L2 charges in less than 4 hours. Sparks cost $2K or when I was looking, it sounds like they're fun, I like dash display.
TIP swinging the camera back and forth causes nausea in the viewer. You need to move it more slowly.
Vespa or Ebike? 7 miles round trip work commute and Jennifer sounds Italian... probably has experience with scooters already.
I really don't think it's worth $7k... for 111 horsepower? 47k miles...
Nice philosophy about your cars. I am trying to make room in the garage to baby my e-Golf.
That sounds like a great deal. Perfect for the city.
Ugg I would hold out for an i3. They look so much better.
Double the price, it's a different price range
The great downsize.. Next stop the Fiido T1.
hello I agree with we need to integrate electric vehicles into our lives and I mean integrate but what's going on today and causing all this inflation and the weakening of the American dream the only people really benefiting from this our enemies for that reason I don't want to buy anything Electric unless it's all made in America or at least made in countries that aren't our enemies congratulations on your success for all the nice things you have God bless
Why not a Tesla? You listed a bunch of cars that are more expensive than the Tesla model 3 and have horrible relative specs. Really really stupid
Why not just drive the Porsche to work? This makes no sense.
I dont stink I could buy a FIAT
You could walk seven miles.
Why have a car you can’t drive how stuck up on labels are you
I like it.......But even at 7 thousand plus it's still too expensive for someone like me who is on Social Security........I can see myself driving around town going to Doctors appointments, food shopping, etc., etc. .............Maybe I'll hit the lottery tonight and buy one...
Seems like you need to lower your standards for 10k. The space, why even comment?
An e-bike would have been cheaper.
I've never seen this woman before, why no intro? To have your first video be about how you want to buy a cheap EV because you own multiple $100k cars and don't want to drive them to work that is only 3.5 miles away, it comes across as quite arrogant and elitest. "Oh look at me I can afford everything I want". That's how you come across when there is no intro as to who the heck you are.
Agreed although that older vet is nowhere near 100k
I'm a little defensive of the 500e she's using as a beater
Good to see you saving the planet by buying 2 EV’s when you only need one.
the whole video is so depressing.. biggest facepalm at my work commute is 7miles
@@kotopoulada so true lol, 7 mile ROUND trip, they should buy a 3rd EV as a backup for this incredible 7 mile round trip journey, you never know
Wow it is sad how ugly BMWs are now.
I'm sorry but a car is meant to sit in the sun and deal with it.
It's not the sun you worry about, is it?
That's a golf cart with doors and windows 😂
And a much more powerful battery and motor and electronics to control it and cruise control and chargers and airbags and air conditioning and heat and a few other things, basically same thing.
With perhaps the main difference being that this could be driven on the Motorway, whereas a golf cart could not.....
That can comfortably do 73 MPH on the highway. Did you actually watch the video or just here to talk shit?(only one of them is a good use of effort)
Ah, an expensive, unreliable product from the usual low quality brand(s) that lose their value the quickest.
over priced 🤣
to be onnest it looked worse then a fiat the first car she sits in..
but i never been a porsche fan, specially not of that 4 door family model..
EVERY EV on the market is grossly overpriced.
So why might a £15k EV be overpriced, compared to a £15k petrol car? The massive waiting lists for new EV's suggest you may be wrong John..... The additional cost of the typical new EV is readily recouped come trade in time. Right now, a one year old EV will sell for the cost of a brand new one.....
@@Brian-om2hh thank you for the question. My response was speaking about here in the USA. I have absolutely no clue what prices are or situations are in any other country.
To answer your country based on the USA under normal circumstances it takes on average 20 to 30 years just to break even with an EV against a comparable sized gas model in the USA.
With the current EV in the USA we get less and pay more. Thye are impractical at best due to being overpriced, too short a range, and too long to charge.
@@Brian-om2hh first not every EV has a “massive waiting list” second, many of these waiting lists are artificial because the manufacturers are still producing them slowly in lower numbers
Spoilt brat!!!
How can you be so concerned by the price with those cars in your garage and a nice house....looking like you have plenty of money so why being so cheap on looking for an ev??????