Quran In Context - Gnostic Crucifixion Of Christ
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2023
- In this entry in the Quran In Context series, we examine the Quran's account of Christ's Crucifixion and demonstrate that the Quranic narrative is heavily influenced by Gnostic accounts, for example, what we find in the Gnostic text known as the Apocalypse of Peter.
It’s amazing looking back at Islam after studying ancient heresies.
It's amazing looking at modern heresies, particularly Protestant ones, and seeing the similarities with ancient ones, as well.
Islam IS Christian heresy. And Muhammad idolizing. Muhammad isn’t necessary in God’s almighty divine plan.
Islam is the biggest heresy of them all.
@@loksterization and Roman catholics. Not orthodox.
Protestantism is far worse than Roman Catholicism
Very informing content. I had never stopped to think how the Quran's account of Jesus may have been influenced heavily by early Christian heresies.
@@DaneilT verily
I came across this fascinating study that delved into what psychics claimed to have witnessed during Jesus' crucifixion. According to some of them, Jesus had a look-alike who took his spot, and this imposter was apparently drugged to play the part. It's interesting that in all these accounts we hear about Jesus being filled with virtue and kindness, but suddenly, during the crucifixion, he's portrayed as deceitful and almost elated with his trickery. Goes to show you what kind of spirit recites these alternate histories.
I think it is also interesting how to the gnostics’ versions have the Spiritual Jesus laughing at his enemies/blind. The real Jesus Christ would be sad for them, not laughing at pulling a trick on them.
Gnostic texts are the only instances I've ever found where "Jesus" is depicted as laughing. He does so in the Gospel of Judas as well.
It is blatantly clear that Islam has "borrowed" extreme Gnostic and Neoplatonic philosophy. Great video as usual. I especially enjoyed the series on the Ark of the Covenant ☦
No it didn't
Are gnostics heretics?
Obviously yes
@@makeytgreatagain6256 what was heretic about them?
Excellent video, more on gnostic influences in the quran could be a good idea
not gnostic but a really good one. dhu al qarnayn. the two horned one.
Only 1 person in history. Alexander the great. pre islam saudia arabia even had coins bearing his image, as the two horned one. if you read the pre-islamic syriac legends about him, youll find the stories are identical. setting place of sun, gog and magog, building a wall.
romance of alexander. Before we found out he was a pagan, the FIRST 20 tasfir written all say dhu al qarnayn was alexander the great. because its blatantly true
Yes. Devestating to traditionalist Islam, and important with the perennialism use of Sufism and today's neognosticism and ecumenism.
ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER BANGER ☦🕯
ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER LIE KEKL
@@alkhenjakehassan1121 the door is thataway, twitch frog
@@thefakebriskeh Resorting to lying and masquerading to get attention, how low really. I'm starting feel bad for you people. Sadge
@@alkhenjakehassan1121 Explain where I lied.
@@OrthodoxShahada Deception number 1: naming yourself "orthodox shahada" disguising thyself in arabic to attract unsuspecting muslims.
Deception number 2 : Cherry picking from the Qur'an, ignoring the apparent meanings and making assumptions to fit your narrative.
Regardless of the crucifixion of Jesus which was explicitly said he wasnt and made to appear so . SURAH MAIDAH V 116 : And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
The Qur'an itself refutes you and it exposes your lies.
Sajdah 2-3 : The revelation of this Book is-beyond doubt-from the Lord of all worlds. Or do they say, “He has fabricated it!”? No! It is the truth from your Lord in order for you to warn a people to whom no warner has come before you, so they may be ˹rightly˺ guided.
What a wonderful channel. Very well presented. God bless you, bro.
very well made video
The 1st Gnostic account of the crucifixion possibly influencing Muhammad is the extant "Gospel of Basilides" found in Irenaeus: Against Heresies, book I, 24:4 (175ad). 2nd and 3rd are from the Nag Hamadi library in Egypt; "Second treatise of the great Seth" and "The Coptic apocalypse of Peter" (220ad ?). The forth comes from the time of Muhammad, "The gospel of Barnabas" (610ad). This one is not to be confused with "The epistle of Barnabas" from the end of the 1st century. This one probably influenced the most what we see in the quran (IMHO)
Allah deceived everyone into believing that it was Jesus who was crucified and then condemns them for having fallen for his deceit?
Reason number 987 why Allah cannot be God
Awesome video, Great work bro!
Great teaching!
Fascinating, thank you. I should read all these strange texts
Awesome Video from a new Christian!
Welcome 🤗! GBU and May the intercession of our mother Marry be with you!✝️
Ending was perfect...
Excellent! Very important. There is a current use of Henry Corbin’s use of this in academia and esoteric circles for docetism that will dovetail with Islamic apostacy rates and archetypal/cosmic misconceptions of Christ.
heresy, heresy, everywhere in islam
You should do a video with GODLOGIC about this. I think this is such an insightful approach to understanding the Quran.
Just to let be known, it's not gnostic that bring that in Quran but Manicheans who had a tot of gnostic teachings and even gnostic library with gnostic gospels and their ,,prophet'' Manu was also claim that he receive revelations from angel Gabriel and that he is seal of all prophets just like hadiths said for Mohamed.
Like the founder of Mormons. It is always the sam story! An angel appears to a chosen one and reveals "messages"
Galatians 1:8 👈
The Ginza Rabba (Classical Mandaic: ࡂࡉࡍࡆࡀ ࡓࡁࡀ, romanized: Ginzā Rbā, lit. 'Great Treasury'), Ginza Rba, or Sidra Rabba (Classical Mandaic: ࡎࡉࡃࡓࡀ ࡓࡁࡀ, romanized: Sidrā Rbā, lit. 'Great Book'), and formerly the Codex Nasaraeus,[1] is the longest and the most important holy scripture of Mandaeism. It is also occasionally referred to as the Book of Adam.
Jesus IS The Son of Man, Son of The Almighty God and God in the flesh. EVERY knee will bow to the king one way or another.
Gnostic texts could have been as early as 50-60 AD, but this was interesting overall
Hello Qai. Please check out the Gnostic "Second Treatise of the Great Seth".
Right Ginza
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"I am the Life Who was from aforetime; (ana hu hiia ḏ-hun mn l-aqadmia)
I am the kušṭa that was the first at the beginning. (ana hu kušṭa ḏ-hua mn qudam briša)
I am the radiance, I am the light. (ana hu ziua, ana hu nhura)
I am the death, I am the Life. (ana hu muta, ana hu hiia)
I am the darkness, I am the light. (ana hu hšuka, ana hu nhura)
I am the error, I am the truth. (ana hu ṭʿia, ana hu šrara)
I am the destruction, I am the construction. (ana hu hbila, ana hu biniana)
I am the (unwitting) offence, I am the purification. (ana hu mhita, ana hu asuta)
I am the outstanding man who is older and earlier than the builder of the heavens and the earth. (ana hu gabra iatira ḏ-qašiš mn qudam ḏ-bania ʿšumia u-arqa hua)
I have no friend as king, and there is no crown in my kingdom. (habrai b-malkia laiit u-laiit taga b-malkutai)
There is no person who could give me information in the clouds of darkness. (u-laiit kul ʿniš br anaša ḏ-paršigna naitilia b-rpilia ḏ-hšuka)
Book 6, paragraphs 16-17
Was Jesus crucified before or after the Passover?
Passover was practiced on a different in Judah compared to Israel that year. They were two distinct kingdoms at the time, some of the disciples were from Judah and thus wrote it in the way they practiced it, while others were from Israel.
Fun Facts: In the first written account of muhammeds life, Ibn Ishaq writes that the injil is the gospel of John. He even quotes from it
Fun fact: ibn isaq was a historian, he got reports from anyone who would give them to him. His works are not seen as reliable
@@Notreallyhereanymore "Historians dont report history" LMBO your scholars sure quote him a lot
mutawffika can mean to take you
Quran 4:157
is very very very clear about hte crucifixion
wama qataluhu wama sabaluhu
this denies the crucifixion and the death
Nice explaination of one of worst AO3 fanfic chapter bro👍🏽
The quran before the quran: ginza rabba"
The main premise of your argument rests on the assumption that 3:55 should be translated as, "I will cause you to die". The Arabic word used is from tawafi, which means to take something fully. Are you aware that the Quran uses exactly this term in relation to Allah taking the souls of the living during their sleep, 6:60 and 39:42? To remove ambiguity, the Quran should have used the word derived from mawt (death) if Isa (peace be upon him) had died.
Islam defines death as separation of soul from body. What we have in Q6:60 and Q39:42 only serves to emphasize this connection to death. Moreover, in Q39:42, the context is contrasting those who die a permanent worldly death during sleep (which is reinforced using موت), with those who will have their souls placed back into their bodies thereby allowing them to awaken since their appointed time has not arrived. No matter what kind of mental gymnastics you try, these two verses do not help you get around the fact that Jesus dies in Q3:55 as per the Quran. If you want to claim that Q3:55 is talking about a bodily ascension in its totality (which is nowhere affirmed in the Quran and goes against the linguistic usage we find in the Quran related to و ف ي), then you're basically now aping Christianity, which believes Christ ascended bodily AFTER His Crucifxion, Death, and Resurrection. Check mate.
The Apocalypse of Peter is strangely very Prolife for a seemingly wholly Gnostic document, stranger given how antinatal and supportive of abortion most kinds of gnostic have tended to be
The verse is badly translated. There is no mention of doppelganger in the original language, but only "walakin shubiha lahum" that is "but it appeared so to them". This is more general, an illusion. The doppleganger reading of the verse is influenced from the ahadith that came centuries later and give details about whom got crucified.
So the original position could be that the author of the Quran is refuting jews (and that only God/Jesus decided to kill Jesus like it is said in the Gospel of John) in a christian way and then later the gnostic understanding prevailed.
boy, you must have crazy flexibility with all this mental gymnastics. "Allah is refuting jews in a christian way"😆
You are conflating the categorical definition for tawafaa with mutawafee. The Arabic word mutawafee does not fall into the categorical definition for “death”. The root word for Tawafaa is Wa-fa-ya which means to take.
On the authority of Ibn Abbas in Sahih Bukhari he explicitly says that mutawafika is to be understood as mumituka. Go educate yourself and stop making up nonsense.
@@OrthodoxShahada it doesn’t really matter what they say. Im saying the word doesn’t fall into the same categorical definition as “death” and because we interpret some words using the Quran, we can conclude the word can’t mean death but rather the word it’s rooted from (wa-fa-ya to take)
@@nametato6712 Yes, it does matter what they say because they demonstrate that the word means death. These are the highest ranking scholars in Islam saying this. You are some random nobody on the internet coping.
@@OrthodoxShahada you stole this argument from rob? You ran from reed and posted his premises online as if that was gonna do something and I’m a nobody💀🙏. Maybe if you understood linguistics, words meanings can and will change based on the context. Since we’re using the context of the whole entire Quran, we can accurately understand what Allah was saying when he uses the word mutawafee by using its rooted word (i.e take). The scholars using this word for death doesn’t matter by the way their using it is in the sense of death.
@@nametato6712 Rob has nothing to do with what's written in Sahih Bukhari. Mutawafika means mumituka according to Islam's own scholars and tradition. You are the ones twisting the meaning of the verse. Your own sources refute you. As for reed, he's low IQ that no one is running from. Just illustrating how nonsensical his stuff is, as well as yours.
Let this fact cry out to other brothers of In Christianity.
Erase false writings. Thats ever given work to jews to every followers of the Truth. Thank you.
God memorialized the crucifixion on day five of creation proving that it would happen and how. "THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES" Look it up.
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What's funny?
Ahmed Deedat wrote cruciFICTION now Ahmed Deedat is dead now he knows what is truth in hell🔥💥
Be careful of implying that you know who or who isn't in hell. Only God knows.
@@MrSofuskroghlarsen he made jokes with the Holy Spirit that’s an unforgivable sin.
u guys are a joke. rewriting history constantly to fit in with one mad man's narrative...😅
What history
There was many gnostic sects, the belief that Jesus wasn't crucified was literally ONLY ONE out of hundreds. And even then it was trying to make a wider point of why Jesus was even more of a God.