The Visual Guide to Season 3 of Guilty Gear Strive!
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- So Season 3 of Guilty Gear Strive has arrived, and with it enjoy this visual guide video detailing to you the major changes that have happened in this patch! To note the universal changes are absolutely the biggest changes, and will be the ones that effect the game the most overall! That said everything is timestamped for your ease of use so skip to what makes sense to you and enjoy the video!
VIEW THE PATCH NOTES IN FULL HERE: www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/ne...
0:00 - Intro & Burst refill
2:34 - Wild Assault
7:20 - Deflect Shield
11:24 - Burst Changes
13:12 - No more weight system
14:14 - Other universal changes
15:14 - Sol Badguy
18:29 - Ky Kiske
21:09 - May
23:35 - Axl Low
26:08 - Chipp
28:25 - Potemkin
31:30 - Faust
34:24 - Millia
35:39 - Zato
37:57 - Ramlethal
40:42 - Leo
41:51 - Nagoriyuki
44:57 - Giovanna
46:37 - Anji
48:47 - I-no
50:20 - Goldlewis
51:58 - Jacko
54:12 - Happy Chaos
55:47 - Baiken
57:44 - Testament
59:19 - Bridget
1:00:22 - Sin
1:01:57 - Bedman
1:03:18 - Asuka
1:03:47 - Closing Thoughts
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Here we are with the big Visual Guide to the Season 3 Patch of Guilty Gear Strive! Everything Timestamped for your ease of use so skip around to what makes sense for you. PLEASE NOTE: The absolute biggest changes are the universal ones! Burst changes, the new Wild Assault and Deflect Shield are bigger than any one single character change, and will wind up being the most important addition to any character regardless of what they get! Many characters were not change too much with that in mind(mostly universal changes to damage and how scaling works), because of the reliance of the new mechanics. That said, enjoy the video and spare a like if you could because it sincerely helps!
Tell that to zato 😞 they massacred my boy
Will you do one for DBFZ?
This isn't directly related to the update, but it's important to bring attention to the fact that currently, all the regional pricings for strive on steam have been removed out of nowhere, and as a result the base game and all the dlcs currently cost anywhere from x2 to x10 more for most regions outside NA and europe. This is a really big problem, so I'm leaving this comment to make people aware of this so it can get to arcsys's ears quickly, for them to fix it sooner rather than later
Regional prices are getting smacked for no reason. Tekken 8 in my region costs more than minimum wage, Sadge!
Its like 2 years after launch and no one watches this channel if they dont have the game. Idk who this was supposed to be for. Just go to G2A ffs if youre that broke
That explain a lot, Season Pass 3 was pricier than the base game before. Thank you for the info.
@@nlm7033 the comment is to make people aware of the problem because I don't see anyone talking about it even though it's a major issue and it's hurting the game quite a bit. The SA servers have dropped in player numbers because nobody can afford johnny down here, and I assume in other lower income regions the situation is the same, the game is gonna die in most developing countries if the prices don't get fixed. If enough people are talking about this arcsys will take notice and hopefully fix it
@@fatyoshi696 I was laughing about this awhile ago. People from rich countries are making fake accounts to get the game for cheap. That's why the prices have seen a big increase. It's so funny that the culture of colonization still lives strong. It really is fucked that a couple of kids from Europe taking advantage of cheaper prices in another country ruins it for everyone.
Ok I put it in the pinned comment but like, seriously, the universal changes are the biggest deal. Wild Assault is bananas and by itself will redefine matches more than any one single change the characters will get. Although... Nagoriyuki's changes are still pretty nutty lol
My main getting all the more busted changes... Let him cook
Noticed an important universal change missing:
Charged dust now gives positive bonus upon landing a "finishing blow". ( Done by double tapping the last input in a dust combo )
It gives a lot more reason to fish for those cheeky charged dust reads. :)
derp I recorded that but I guess I didn't edit it in, my bad lol
nice that it's a way to actively grab Positive Bonus without needing the wall. it always felt strange to get charged dust and then land without anything but damage. Even though it takes a harder read than a corner combo
@@lyubit9841gold burst also gives it
If taking off half their health wasn't enough motivation. Most people still won't go for it at high level considering how risky it is.
Since Roofle didn't really say... basically anything on Anji's new move in comparison to all of the other new moves, imma gush about how absolutely bat shit insane the funny fish slam is, because it makes the spin absolutely terrifying to beat out. Going over everything:
-The fish grants a hard knockdown on hit, which on its own is huge, granting him easy access to butterfly oki off of spin
-The fish outright beats light attacks, whereas before you could easily invalidate spin by using quick attacks
-The fish outright beats most attempts from the opponent to steal their turn back with PRC. If they try to throw, they get bopped. If they try to attack, they get bopped. The only option you have to beat the fish after a PRC is do a fast RC into an invincible reversal, which is extremely costly for most characters and is incredibly tight timing wise
-If you try to PRC and then block against the fish or use a projectile to trigger spin so you can block it, then you get guard crushed and Anji is left absurdly plus on block.
In short: don't fuck with the spin, or you will be forced to deal with the fish
Do you think having the fish is better than trying to fish for big fujin counter set ups? Like having it more oriented around spin into fish/butterfly oki as opposed to read opponent and the get big counter fujin?
Is Anji a good beginner character? I've been looking to get back in the game.
@@justingoersI’ve started strive and it was my first fighting game. I’ve enjoyed Anji immensely and climbed from 3F noob to a 6F competent player. What most important is playing a character you gel with while learning the game you can always swap when someone doesn’t meet your need anymore.
Omg roofle. I hope you've slept and are well. The speed in which you bust these out is INSANE. much appreciated as always.
I am def not slept or well right now cause this video took like, a full day to make but its out now so I can rest lol, make sure to smash the like and subscribe button as the kids say
Roofle please go nap now
@@rooflemongeryour dedication to the craft is much appreciated
I feel like they wanted to reduce extreme damage from a lot of moves to compensate for not always having access to a blue burst if you use the new mechanics often. I think the idea is to keep the rounds lasting for about the same amount of time regardless (still fast but not getting absolutely obliterated for not having a burst).
Yeah, but they compensated for it with Wild Assault giving combo extensions for almost every character.
@@Ikenhauerbut wild assault does scale combos quite a bit. So it leaves the round length around the same, but it more active for the players
Great video, but with Anji I think you might have understated how good fish is. Because it’s strike invulnerable and comes out so fast, it lets us set up butterfly oki off even spinning a jab and people who prc to punish when caught are much more manageable now. I think it’s a very healthy change overall 😊
I always read the patch notes and have no idea what it means, so these videos are always a blessing 😂 thank you lord Roofle
Feel like you kinda undersold the value fish provides with Anji because if you land it that's a free meaty butterfly
Also being able to convert off farS via held wild assault is amazing
Anjis fish really helps him out. People can no longer negate the spin with RC and throws since its invincible. The knock down also gives you perfect spacing for a meaty butterfly right after. Basically its something he should have had from the get go.
It also has guard break so PRC and block isnt even a good option
Key detail for stun dipper of Ky: He can now consistently meaty 5k out of it, massively improving is low resource pressure
5k being one of the best meaty buttons in the game, easily being +on block by itself if timed well.
Numbers for Ky mains
5k has 8 active frames and is -2 on block at the earliest(so if you meaty on frame 5 of the active you would be +3) and it has a recovery of 6. So theoretically it can be safe meaty in most MU
Anji player here. Koi fish is absolutely silly.
You can beat 5p prc throw with the koi fish, and if you are blocking it’s a guard crush, on hit it’s a hard knockdown which lets you set up butterfly and start pressure. No joke, fish may actually be, as implemented, one of the most important tools in anjis kit! Great video
Klaige made a video explaining it better then I ever could
I watched a video explaining Anji's new Koi fish move. Its actually stupid good once you understand all of the properties it has.
Gotta say I love the implementation of Wild Assault just from my limited time playing with it.
It feels like they really took the time to identify three different ways to use it and assign those three different ways based on the character’s needs. I haven’t personally seen a character given a type of wild rush that I felt was nonsensical for their character which is really cool.
Shows they put thought into the mechanic.
“Visual Guide” has bridget nago testament baiken in the thumbnail
I am certainly being guided visually
Now they’ve really shaken up the core mechanics, I hope they pay more attention to individual characters from here on out. Characters who previously struggled like Anji and Faust seem to have awesome sauce from their new options and the new design space that the game is in. I think the closest it can get to perfect is with interesting new characters, and care taken to tweak and add to each character so that they all have viable and interesting options
It’ll also be very interesting to see how new moves will effect things. I’ve already heard how Anji’s fish is absolutely crazy for his spin. Don’t know for the other characters.
Can’t wait to see what they do for the rest of the cast
The change to Ky’s Stun Dipper for the increase launch height is to compensate for the increased recovery. They didn’t want to make the same mistake they made with Leo 2D nerf where it had increased recovery but the launch height was the same, causing him to be less advantageous.
thanks for putting these out! i always look forward to these whenever a new patch drops.
This Patch is a new fresh air to breathe with the universal nerf of damage to all characters supers and my boy Sin, Potemkin, Bedman recieve the buffs need it.
Thank you so much for making these whenever a patch comes out! You're the best to do it
Worth mentioning, jackos change to FED is actually a huge buff since it's now an actual reversal
Honestly whether or not it's a bad thing depends if you can hit people in the air with it now. I haven't really planned it yet.
@@spicyluvsyou you can hit people in the air. It's a normal strike
52:03 I know this has nothing to do with balance but I absolutely love the loud metallic “BONK” when jack-o’s super gets blocked xD
As a galaxy brain goofball to a simple grappler main, you've missed a few important aspects to Jack-O!: It should be noted that with Jack-O if you use Wild Assault at ANY time it calls back all your minions if they're out on the screen! It's not the end of the world per se, but it's definitely disappointing because it limits any unique uses of Wild Assault and lowers the amount of minion gimmicks you could've potentially done.
5K has a reduced launch rate which hurts quite a bit of her previous combos out of 5H Counter Hit tomfoolery. The buffs in my opinion sort of outweigh all this and I think there's much more interesting potential with the bomb guard crushes and minion defense launches.
Dude bless your heart for these visual aid vids 🙏🏿
Appreciate your channel I've recently gotten into fighting games again after a long hiatus 👍
Great work as always! Thank you!
Thanks for the break down, very helpful, as ever! I'm loving the changes, it's definitely bringing a breath of fresh air to a game I already loved!
This is an awesome video man
thanks as always rooflemonger, always helping me catch up to date to every fighting game
Thank you for the visual update
Good job as always!
Thanks so much for this in-depth coverage of the patch. I saw so much dooming about the changes on social media, which I know is standard for when these kinds of patches are done, but it's still a relief to hear your more optimistic and seasoned perspective.
Millia got the monkey's paw of the century, she finally got a good defensive option but that same defensive option completely negates her oki
Your Strive videos helped me go from rank 5 in the tower all the way to celestial back when ArcSys did the first sale for Strive.
Uni and work got in the way of actually playing fighting games for most of this year though, so it's time to watch your stuff as if I were studying for a test yet again. Thank you so much!
🙏
Great content as usual
Thanks for continuing to cover Guilty Gear with the same quality as you have before. Great video and it summed up everything nicely for me as my eyes always glaze over a bit when I try to figure out the patch notes on my own.
*FINALLY!!!!* I've been waiting for you to drop this, so I can get a clear succinct explanation of all the changes in S3.
Excellent vid. Aside from Nago getting some crazy mix up options the new patch was awesome imo. I hope you'll do one on the new DBFZ patch soon.
Thank you roofle, for all the hard work and dedication 🙏
Thank You!
Just wanted to say thanks for always making high quality fgc content! You’ve been my primary link to the community for the past year or so and I truly value your content.
This wild I literally was thinking “I bet roofle will post something by today” looks on yt and at the top of my page 😂 always look forward to your guides
I love the visual change videos. Thanks Rooflemonger.
nobody else seemed to mention it, but one of the main uses for the axl bomber change is to be used with wild assault, if you cancel his WA into the bomber it sends both you and the opponent flying
you re doing a great job, thank you a lot for all of that
giovanna mains are EATING
Thanks Rooflemonger! Looking forward to your Season 3 GG content to come!
Ah yes. Every time there's a new patch i always just wait for your great videos to get a much better idea of what changed. Keep up the great work
Man the work you’ve been putting in for the past few years has been ridiculous!
Roofle put out a S3 guide, now I can finally play GGST again and understand what’s going on.
Really like the shake-up. Getting Positive Bonus from the Dust stage transition is something I've wanted since the initial release, so it's almost weird to see it finally happen hah. My boy Axl didn't get much character specific changes, but his toolkit was already pretty sturdy and the new mechanics alone give him some great new stuff to work with.
I almost had a heart attack when I read the patch notes and at a glance saw "... Potemkin Buster ... Reduced Damage", and then I saw it was HPB that got the damage nerf. That kinda of sucks, but it's not the money maker, so I'm okay with that. The normal buffs are good and forward megafist getting a bounce is pretty great. The fact that no one used it purposefully outside of tacking on damage in certain comobos was a good enough indicator for arcsys to buff it.
They lowered the overall damage in preparation for Slayers arrival, so that the massive damage he's gonna dish out stands out
Important note for Anji is that the spin follow up punishes jabs….JABS. And it is a hard KD that sets him up for butterfly oki. Like that is huge for him as when they took the hard KD from Kou (anti air special)
Also WA (Wild assault) can be jump canceled. Small thing but important for some characters.
Love your work Rooflemonger ❤
Thank you for this video. I tried to read it all, but I havent played this game since Testaments release so imma a little behind on whats going on.
Very important: With Bedman, you can't mash jab out of his 2HS anymore. Unless you have an invincible reversal, his best forward advancing "neutral killer" move is much stronger now.
The Axl Bomber Momentum change is mostly for After wild assault
All I wanted from Strive season 3 was defense and frame data. I got the defense I wanted. Is it really so hard to add frame data to training mode?
24:55 Rensen Winter Cherry is actually harder to Meaty now because of the tumble effect it now only works at certain distance and heights when it was more universal before.
The axl bomber momentum change applies with wild assault combos, enables a lot of corner travel when converting.
My man with the info we all need as usual. Thank you so much for getting this out with all the Mk1 stuff going on. Hope you’re sleeping bro
I don't expect non-Jack-O' players to have known, but probably the most impactful change to her was actually the 5k launch height nerf. It quite drastically limits her midscreen combo potential. Her damage and especially corner carry off of midscreen counterhits took a pretty big hit. Wild Assault might help with that, but it sucks to have to spend burst for something that used to be meterless.
I dabbled in Jack-o as a replacement main for Ram because I really enjoy the Valentines, but played Elphelt in Xrd. Wasn’t a huge fan of Ram. Eventually settled on Testament cuz they more like what I was hoping Ram would be.
I totally feel this nerf though, and it sucks. I didn’t feel like she was too powerful and needed nerfs
Definitely seems like they’re trying to make Jack-O players focus on relying on minions for combos.
Not a Jack-O player so don’t really know how good she is, but as long as they’re able to improve her minions and their mechanics, hopefully this nerf won’t be the worst thing
@@pian-0g445 I don't think it's super devastating, it just feels pretty bad. I was talking to Eddventure and he seems ready to drop the character over it, but he was also ready to drop the character two hours before winning CEO with her so we'll see.
Have not watched it yet but thanks so much Roofle the 🐐
thanks been waiting for this. i for damn sure wasn't gonna figure out what all these creeps did by myself
as a bridget player, can confirm 6H juices combo routes 😍 in s2 i could not find a meterless 200+ damage combo for her myself, but immediately found one within a few minutes upon booting up s3
Baiken really said "Say it with ya chest!"
Fr I'm returning after playing a bit of Season 1 and this is a super helpful guide for me to keep track of the changes.
I look forward to trying out the new mechanics with the newly buffed Potemkin. I wanna point out that the thing I appreciate about the Forward Megafist buff is it's actually advantage on a normal hit now. (old Forward Megafist used to be -2 ON NORMAL HIT)
Rooflemonger always here to make sense of things when I don't get the patch notes
i'm a really big fan of this patch and loving bridget as always
On the millia 5k change, I'm p sure it's meant so that during juggles like 5k-6h loops, or catching backdashes with 5k will mean that she'll be able to more consistently combo off of it without the opponent slamming to the floor prematurely cuz of the gravity system in combos
Ky's stundipper launch height change was just to ensure he has the same oki option despite the longer recovery(meaty 5k, or CSE if in dragon install) .
You truly are the GOAT of the fgc! Thanks for this video, I really appreciate it!
I was ready
From what I've seen, Anji's new move will basically chew through anything that isn't PRC into frame 1 reversal. If the opponent doesn't want to eat a hard knockdown and have to deal with Shitsu oki, they need to spend 50% to get Guard Crushed, spend 50% and need to acutely time a reversal if they even HAVE a F1 reversal, or 50% Tension + 50%/100% Burst to get Anji off of them.
Spin to win.
With the reduced recovery, CH 5H, slide head, hammerfall is a combo now.
You are GOATed!
Awesome visual guide. I now know almost everything I need to know before jumping back into the game.
Looking forward to how this new season is going to play out, especially at high level comp play.
Also, what THE HELL were they thinking with 'buffing' Nago!? Lol
I'm starting to think they want Nago, who is a new character in the GG series, to be a poster boy character, right along with Sol and Ky.
I think they're very proud of what they've accomplished with him as a character and a fighter. So, I don't blame them. He is very freaking cool! Haha
Arcsys really just looked at SF6 and said, "lemme copy your homework, don't worry I'll change it a little." It'll be wild to see what the GGST cast can do with definitely-not-drive-rush
It's not drive rush because it attacks for you obviously smh.
Yeah. This ain’t drive rush, this is strive rush.
@@colingaul9579that's good. Like if it wouldn't piss off ASW immensely I would say that tournament commentators should call it that lol
Guilty gear had this thing called blitz shield before and now they just split it in half
Man, Nagoriyuki is looking like a menace with the mix up options. In the right situation he's gone be a bulldozer
Honestly, i think the biggest significance of blue burst hitting full screen is that it prevents burstproof combis like from HC sthat hit full screen so you can't contest
Rooflemonger out here actually saving lives. Keep up the good work king.
For Ky players, the reduced horizontal blowback with his fireball is actually really good for combos (if you are close are RC into the player or wild assault)
I can't believe they removed Canada from the game by making it impossible to burst too high.
Yo I know you're super busy with just getting back and breaking down EVERYTHING but do you have plans for a visual patch guide for DBFZ as well? My FG bud and I are gonna play it tonight after a long time but id love to still hear your input on things in it if you havent already done so.
I feel like weight system's appropriate for Virtua Fighter, but no other series should try 😂
axl bomber out of wild assault sends you FLYING into their face
ahh so thats the momentum change lol
@@rooflemonger its incredibly fun suddenly throwing both you and the other person across the screen
I believe the specific Stun Dipper change was to nerf the recovery time so it was more punishable on block but they wanted to keep the same advantage on hit.
So the “increased knockback” or whatever is basically just there to compensate for the increased recovery. Dustloop says the move is +20 advantage on hit for Ky, so they wanted to keep that same +20 frames on hit advantage even though they also wanted to make the move take longer to recover. They didn’t want to make the move like +18 on hit or something.
I don't know if this has been posted already.
The easy way to know which wild assault you character has.
It leaves a trail with a different color
Type 1 Wild assault is orange
Type 2 is the blue one
Type 3 is the white one
11:24 another thing about burst is the fact that during dust jump, even if you block it you get hit by extra blockstun and can't punish
Visual guide FRICK YEAH, BABY!
You have no idea (or maybe you have exactly the idea) of how annoying it is scrounging social media to try to find any visual references from people who actually understand what the changes mean.
Like sure, I read, “A thing that May does is this way” and my never-played-a-charge-character ass has zero idea on what that means. LOL love these videos.
56:38 Youzansen's blowback is probably mostly a nerf, but it has a fun interaction with Wild Assault: If you hit a Youzansen, you can fully charge a wild assault to hit it meaty. If they block the wild assault, you get an S Kabari for free. If they get hit, well, you get a big combo for free.
Basically, unless they have an invincible wakeup, they're instantly in the Baiken blender.
That Faust item eat is cool. Not sure how much it will actually help him, but I like it.
HPB should do *increased* damage as a reward for actually being able to pull it off in a real match.
Haven't touched Strive in quite a while, but the new mechanics do have me interested. Looks like this update is a big win overall.
They shall all fear the wrath of FISH.
Seriously though that move is stupid good. It hits any kind of PRC mash, its throw invulnerable, it wins against jumpins and jabs, it ignores projectiles and it even guardcrushes. Theres no downside to it, the only way to punish it is to just not be in range (and the range is pretty good horizontally and as tall as the animation) or to fast PRC into something immediately invincible, which is spending 50% meter for unfavorable RPS. It doesnt combo but it gives a hard knockdown into butterfly setup
you can just prc backwards to evade it and punish. it's still a great move though
@@kesitron9302 yep, and that's spending 50 meter for unfavorable RPS. It's totally beatable but damn if its not kinda strict
I like that you title your videos like a normal person.
That Anji new attack off of auto guard is better than it seems since its completely invlunerable to everything including grab and will punish basically everything including jabs, and if by some miracle they manage to guard it it'll guard crush. The new fan toss movement is also really nice since now if you move forward while doing it and get a counter hit you can combo off it with close slash.
I think it looses against PRC into reversal, but not 100% sure
@@Gronalak I didn't think about that, I'll have to lab it.
@@GronalakIt does... with _very_ good timing.
You are such a gem
Anybody here know if you can still burst bait by blocking the burst? Or is the new blue burst unblockable to help the burst babies even more? Kinda hoping it can still be blocked.
I think it has become really clear with Season 3 ArcSys wants to give GGST the GGSign treatment. Like Revelator and Rev 2 were MASSIVE changes to the game that eventually completely changed the feeling of the original iteration I think GGST is gonna evolve into something else but keeping its name this time.
Then again, Thank you for that huge and well made video!
Bandit bringer is a combo starter in corner btw. Revolver is now hits low profile too so that's pretty good. Kara fafnir with dash momentum straight up covers 80% of the screen. Overall he has been buffed quite a bit especially due to WA
Stun edge buffs allow to use both versions in a combo. CSE specifically adds shitload of damage