Did you catch the genius contrast? Ren "Murderer" Reaction & ANALYSIS
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2023
- Ren's voice and production is always fresh and wonderful to listen to... But his WRITING!
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Ren's way with words, imagery and the way he weaves so many different themes together and subtly nods in multiple directions is unlike any artist I've encountered.
Join me in my first time experience with Ren's new single, "Murderer" and see if you agree with me in the hidden genius behind the contrast he's creating in these lyrics!
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Ren raps in key. Those bars are not just clever wordsmithing, there are melodies in there as well.
I think that's what makes him compelling even for those of us who don't normally care for rap. (That, plus the songwriting.)
I love that he raps in key!
Yeah, I always hated rappers that don't give a shit about the pitches. If you're tone deaf, make percussion-only backing tracks. Rappers who can't be bothered to learn to sing, just seem lazy. Though I think sometimes, ignoring the key makes it easier to hear the lyrics and stops the voice falling into the mix. But when it's all you can do, it all just sounds the same.
And it usually seems to be the "Hood, bitches, driveby" rappers who can't rap on pitch. "Out of tune I-lived-in-a-rough-area-but-now-I-drive-a-hideous-gold-humvee-and-date-models" seems to be an actual genre. I just can't bring myself to care about your damn financial status!
Absolutely spot on. He is on another level. He is every bit as brilliant as a musician as he is a a rapper. Man I love Ren
He always sounds like he’s about to slip from rap to singing, or the other way around.
Oh Chris, you may be the only reactor ive seen that concentrated on the tone and pitch of the line, "shocking like a finger in the anus" instead of freaking out. 😂😂 Thats why we love you.
Thankyou for your perspective on Rens music.
Sending love from the UK 💕
The "murderer" hook was a nod to the song of the same name from "barrington levy". Massive reggae influence here.
Nah, it's the lyrical gangsta song
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he even sings this song at the end of a jam session with Liv Sangster
@@seth1455 I'm sure that Ren does have many influences, but he mentions Barrington Levy specifically in relation to this song, during the livestream he did after the premier.
"you feel like you could pet his voice" Love it.
Ren is a total chameleon musically, vocally, and as an actor, effortlessly taking on the characters that he is portraying. Hi Ren is the prime example of being able to switch vocally, musically and behaviourally between different characters, and not faltering even once. I think he said somewhere that the character in this one is an extension of Screech - it very much feels like this is who Screech would have grown into ... It is perhaps ironic that, simultaneously, we love him for his authenticity as a person and an artist, but also love him for his ability to inhabit a fictional character
You are the first person i've heard say Chris that Ren is playing a Character in this and other Video's you picked up on it right away, too many Reactors seem to Judge Ren by his more serious stuff and think everything has a hidden deeper meaning, sometimes Ren is just having Fun and creating catchy Music just because he can. This is obviously not the Person he is and it's not to be taken Literally it's just a Fun Tune.
Yeah good point. Every thing is not autobiographical.
nah, Ren's a murderer 🥷
Yes!! Sometimes reactors try to read too much into things. This is part of thr beauty of art - yiu can be someone else, anyone and anything you want to. A bunch of reactors that I watched initially were like "oh Murderer ok he's metaphorically murdering something" and then when he says he's talking literal murder not metaphors they're like "ummm..." and then there's like an awkward moment 😅 he did have to point out to one reactor that not everything has any intended meaning behind it.
I think we're seeing a chapter of something that, after other songs, will be revealed to be a multi-song plot line, like the trilogy.
My guess is that this leads into the plot line of Money Game part 1.
Ren saying that the guy who gets kidnapped here is the same guy (actor) as the guy who shows up as the prisoner at the beginning of Animal Flow may mean Animal Flow is a part of it, too.
I mean, if my wild guess turns out to be right (that this will be a chapter in a multi-song plot line).
Since Ren's getting ready to release Money Game part 3 this fall, we may get some confirmation of that soon(-ish), if my wild guess that Money Game 1 is part of this "universe" is right.
@@rebeccaburnell9319 I'm pretty sure his first Money Game song is totally unrelated. It was released almost 4 years ago.
I agree that the inflection he uses in his raps makes them far more interesting to listen to.
As one of the millions of Ren fans who fall in the "I don't normally dig rap" category, I have a couple of things to say about him and his rapping:
1) his diction/enunciation is consistently exceptional. like next level insanely good. He makes sure that you don't need a lyric sheet to figure out most if not all of what he is spitting, and that instantly makes it all so much more accessible.
2) He really blurs the line between rapping and singing more than any artist I have come across.
Finally, and unrelated to the above: huge props to #LukeFlagg for some exceptional camera work!
This! Absolutely! It's truly his impeccable enunciation that has made his rap accessible to myself and so many others. I used to find rap exhausting because it was just too much work to figure out what the hell they were saying. Not so with Ren.❤
Ren has helped me appreciate Rap music and the Hip Hop culture. I have recently watched the films "Out of Compton" and "8 mile" to learn more about it.
Your take on Ren's rapping is spot on. Imho
The guy Ren abducts is the " hostage" at the beginning of Animal Flow
Pig mask was chopping something up in the kitchen, so are you sure about that? /jk
@@rog2224 Yes, ren confirmed it in his last stream.
That’s right - Ren said that in a post . Not sure why murderer was not released prior to Animal flo .
Thank you, so many reactors critique his delivery in a narrow category of rap, not considering Ren's unique ability to act/sing/melodically rap and perform. Standard rap bores me, I am enthralled with Ren. Your reviews are always so sensitive and intelligent, thank you!😁
Love that you immediately understood that Ren is portraying a character here. And I always love your breakdowns of his songs! ❤
I'm absolutely loving the different characters Ren brings to his songs not to mention his genius writing, he resonates so much with me and many others. His vulnerability and humility is admirable and i just can't get enough of him.
Yes! The look on his face before he steps out of the car... Priceless!
Haven't seen anyone else mention this, but for me it's the most terrifying part of the whole video.
@@MichaelCRush Yeah, he let his demon out to play...
Yeah I noticed that the first time I watched - he stares at the driver ( pig mask ) for a few seconds before exiting the car - its chilling .
My favourite bit….😂
Well done sir.... Someone that finally gets it! Even though his resonance is all over the place somehow he manages to deliver almost perfect cadence and diction which is only made possible by his unnaturally good breath control. Add in some clever word play an understanding of producing beats a talented guitar player who also sings beautifully and then throw in a little bit of lunacy and the result is a once in a life time artist!!... it's just simple maths really. 😁
You are right about the breath control - I have tried to sing along to some of his songs - having the lyrics which he always posts on his channel - I couldn’t keep up - almost gasping for lack of oxygen . That’s part of training to be a singer is I guess .
@@SilkytoasterI'm glad he quit smoking cigarettes. Preserve that breath control and beautiful voice
Watching this reaction I now realize why I and other older people who normally don't like rap music enjoy it when Ren does it. I will now send people here who wonder the same thing. Chur from NZ.
REALLY hoping you'll take a look at "Swan Song" by The Big Push. It goes to a whole other level on the singing, and I'd love to hear you break it down.
It’s soooooo good
Swan song is gorgeous . Voices of angels .
Always love your reactions. Have you done Humble ft. Eden Nash? I think you'd really like it, because Ren goes into some very 80s punk vocal twists and "ugly" notes. And of course, Eden Nash is amazing.
#Ren 💙💖💙
He is an amazing human being & doing great thing's. Deserves ever bit of success 💖
Bro... you must do his cover of Englishman in New York!!!
I think that the main clue that Ren is playing a character in this song is the fact that, in the video, he is working WITH the pig masked man
Yes - good point . Immediately we should have picked up he is not playing himself .
Remember there is a pig masked person in HI Ren. I see a lot of Ren in that performance.
@@susanhall5514 But in every other video (exept maybe Animal Flow) the pig mask in an opponent to Ren. In "Hi Ren" the pig mask is the one that brings him in the empty room and I think this symbolize the medical industry that abandons people to the loneliness of their own mind. In this video Ren is an accomplice and this doesn't fit with what he talks about
@@marcoprimavera2992 he is not playing himself - he is playing the character in league with the pig masked man . His work is not strictly autobiographical.
Lol, righ
A skilled reaction Chris Liepe. Your production setup is a class setup mate.
The roomer is that - Animal Flow - is part 2
"you fee like that you can pet his voice." 🤣
Great commentary as always. I love the track too. I agree that Ren is just portraying the brag or battle rap persona in tracks like this and Illest of Our Time. Ren’s provocative lyrics and video are designed to shock, but it just cracks me up when he lets his hooligan side out and he definitely murdered this track! He gave credit to Barrington Levy’s song, Murderer, for his inspiration. 💔❤️🩹❤️
This song comes off as a statement, like he knows he's putting out a large variety of styles but doesn't want you to forget he can throw down some aggressive bars when needed. Really excited to see where he takes this on the rest of the album.
I saw a clip of him a while back, might still be online, where he took a section of a song he was working on and kept increasing the BPM of the backing track and then he'd try to match it by reciting the lyrics over the new faster beat. It was insane how fast he could get through lyrically complicated sections, it seems like this lets him do a lot more of the stylistic flourishes when he throttles it down to "normal" speed.
I love how he is content to have a bedsit or small attic/top floor room and still make great vibes.....crazy..
I think if he had a top floor penthouse apartment he would be so creative as its all about life experience
and working hard which has/is defining him and his talents and friends.....
REN’s friend Knox Hill just hit 1M as well. Congrats to them both. REN has lifted so many people up as far as helping his musical friends be seen. So many of them are taking off to great places!!
I didn't notice this until just now but the man he captures at the end of the video is himself, same haircut same type of clothes. Like this is another example of Ren's inner darkness. Wow.
I don’t agree - if you look carefull - the victim is a bit shorter than Ren and when he is placed in the car boot ( trunk ) he looks stockier in build . its a cool idea though if he was abducting himself .
Yea I don't think it's supposed to be himself.
Loved your intro - well said! 👍
Really interesting and enjoyable reaction - as usual!! 😁❤️
#Renergy is strong and growing love to see it
You really need to check out the big push cover of Praise You. 3 very different, very amazing vocal styles.
I really appreciated your final interpretation and thoughts. It does, indeed, give a person something to consider.
Plus, that hook is just too damn catchy!
Love your ability to match the sounds/vocals. The description of a feathery voice is a nice analogy.
Much love and have a great day!
Can't wait to see you do more vids on Ren when the album drops! I'll for sure be listening to it!
Always enjoy your Ren reactions, and the parts of his range and technique that I would never notice if you weren't helping to educate my ears.
Ren's bandmate from The Big Push, Romain Axisa, has a new song (Happy Song) that I would be fascinated to hear you discuss. He has such a unique voice and sings with such a rich accent that it really is beautiful in a way that is entirely his own.
"Even though the notes aren't rangey, the expression is."
Spot on with what you were saying here.
He's "super expressive" with lots of "character" in his voice and that's why I love it and stay interested.
Chris he acts to the song theme and would not be out of place as a peaky blinder. He even had the gangster walk before the kidnapping. Even Elizabeth in her reaction was a little perturbed.
You are truly one of my favorite reactors. Thank you Chris.
thank you for continuing to react and support my favourite artist ever ❤❤
Vocal vinyl scratching, "Rocky keep it cocky..." So good
There's a moment of scratching in the mix at one point while they're in the car.
I watched another reactor (Stumpy) who commented that Ren's entire rap delivery in this song (Stumpy was pretty new to Ren at the time so he wouldn't have known how often it shows up in Ren's rapping) incorporates "scratching" in the vocals - by which he meant the way Ren uses exaggerated nasal/head voice tones, often in rapid alternation with dropping to a lower chest voice.
I think of that every time I listen to this song now (and many of his other songs too).
edit: argh, I Just went back to the Stumpy reaction to remember exactly how he put it... and it's not Stumpy who said it. I can't think of which reactor it was then.... sigh, I wanted to give the person credit.
Rens making Rap actually musical for a change!
Murderer Pt 2? I hope so. It looks like a prelude to Animal Flow with the guy in the trunk.
You can hear the influence of "The Streets" in Ren's rapping. Also the influence of "Faithless".
And Welsh is a singing language when you listen to it 😊💕.
In the Netherlands f.ex. the dialect in the city of Rotterdam is singing while speaking. While some others are more monotonous. I love that! As a singer, trying to be able to make different dialects and accents your own, you can use that for creating and practicing your own sound. It's like a listening exercise, hearing how it sounds and replicating it. 😊❤ My guilty pleasure, becoming a native ASAP 😜🤣💜
Always a great reaction to Ren
It's interesting that he was your fan but you can truly see you're as big of a fan. The joy you get in these
Talking about how he often ties songs together- the guy being kidnapped at the end- he is the SAME guy we see tied up at the start of animal flow. So Here we see HOW he was kidnapped- the pig guy is still there with him in animal flow- and we can assume this murderer character is probably someone who works for Rens 'Boss' character in animal flow.
That's a fascinating take. Couple that with another commenter noting that the "murderer" could be Ren talking to himself or to the person he kidnaps. ... Hmm, but he did talk of shooting more effective bullets than metaphorical ones. More to be revealed... it's hard to wait.
Dont think it goes that deep man. All the extras are his friends, I think he was just saying that as an interesting note that it happens to be the same guy.
@@inuchan74 I think it IS meant to be the same character- he has the same pants on and the pig is with him - its not coincidence the same friend dressed the same and by the pig is tied up like the guy same guy here was kidnapped. But Its not anything majorly deep- its just a fun hint of a connection to another song- like an easter egg - Ren does this in lots of songs.
I love your Ren reactions! I learn so much. I know I love Ren, but you crystallize the reasons that I do😊❤ thanks Chris
Great insights, Chris! You will LOVE the live version that Ren just dropped, so much vocal play to drink up! 😊
You have to do Sam Tompkins - Lose It All (live)
I 2nd this. And Sam's Hero, Time Will Fly, and See Me...
Great breakdown as usual Chris. Always love your insights.
You are fo sho mo than just a reactor. You bring in added quality, and that is much respect. That insight was spot on, Ren is making something much bigger that some still have yet to catch on to.
I absolutely lost it when you repeated the “shocking like a finger in the anus” as an example and followed up with “you don’t hear a lot of guys do that” 🤣 I do agree though. Ren is never boring to listen to with all the musicality in his voice as well as the flow switches. He understands all aspects of the music and makes every detail intentional and work together. Love the man 🐰 🕳️
I came. to the comment section to find this one.
Shout out to that amazing camera work. Smooth.
Hah! I hadn't noticed that aspect of his rapping until you mentioned it. It's like ghost notes and accents in drumming. I guess at the end of the day, rap *is* percussive, and it's this ability to add flavour to a beat that separates the good from the great...
Been waiting for your reaction....I love the interpretation you provide but mostly the genuine reactions from your body language and facial expressions , you can really see when music touches you and its great! Cheers to you! Also Thanks to Ren, I found ya because of him, his art is dumbfoundingly beautiful and his character healing! Ya both bring a spark to my night so...nice one! 🤌
Chris - I eagerly await your reaction to Ren's music. Your breakdowns are as unique as Ren's music - A match made in music heaven 😉😆❤
I loved it in another comment, someone said the Police were called about a guy being abducted and they said, Oh are you sure it’s not REN messing about making one of his videos!! 😂😂
Loved this reaction and breakdown. Nice to see you chuckle in the vid as well.
ive seen loads of reactions of Ren, lets face it his skill calls for it. as youre a vocal coach, im glad you followed him after Hi Ren. as jaw dropping that track is, it doesnt showcase his vocal skill completely, im constantly amazed by his music, and the work of the big push.
if you didnt see it, the live video of this track is awesome.
Listen to Rens live version of Murder simply brilliant. 😮
Ren is so unique.
He is a greatful for analyse and you catch big part of him
His live acoustic version of this is even better!
you will love the live version
Enjoyed your review, there is a huge element of acting in his videos. You may not know, but the catchy 'Murderer' chorus piece, Ren has unapologetically taken from Barrington Levy's 1964 reggae song of the same name. Ren has a huge depth of musical influence!
Knox Hill pointed out that Ren used his breath as an instrument when the red word “BREATH” was shown. He noted that they would usually edit that out
Thanks for the great reaction
It took me a while to acclimatise to REN’s rapping style because it is so different to anyone else’s but it’s so refreshing.
The lyrics speak for themselves but a lot of people miss the humour in them.
The other outstanding thing about this video is it is performed in broad daylight on a public street. Notice the guy walking down the street as Ren gets out of the car. As Ren is "abducting" his victim the guy now at the end of the street looks back, stops to take a look, then carries on. Bizarre..but crazy good.
"Pet his voice," ... ? I have the strangest internal visual of that. Lol 😂😂😂 (But I actually know exactly what you mean. I just never would have come up with that descriptor, though. Now I must inject it into as many conversations as possible until my friends, one-by-one, ask me, "WTF?!")
That means he belongs here. He's exactly in the right place at the right time. For us. Harmony?
Great reaction!
What can I say about Ren or this song that been already said.
I dont know why but the more I listen to a song by Ren the more I like it.
Even this song which i didnt care for at first.
The way you speak and describe things reminds me so much of Bishop Barron who is also on youtube.
2:31 - THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS!
So this is how Ren gets his animal people...
"Yes, I came to rock man, drop it like it's hot, Fam"
Sounds like record scratching. It's the highlight of the song for me, for some reason. I haven't heard anyone bring it up in any reaction video. Am I just too easily amused?
I love this one so much. The reggae feel with the hip hop vibes is fire.
good stuff
Animal Flow would be the sequel to this.
The RAP community has embraced Ren which is most unusual. You have to earn your stripes and it's a battle to the top, one not easily achieved. Dissing and killing it on the scene is all part of the game like his songs, The Hunger, and Genisus.
Thank you 👍 great tune gets stuck in my head ❤
Ren is using this song to strut his stuff, because he sure can strut! That’s all.
Peep his 1 mil speech. It's very enlightening!!
I always love watching your reaction to REN. Ten is fun in this video, I say that when he has just kidnapped a man and put him in the boot of a car. He is showing his duality, his real side and his characters. 😂😂😂
Ren knows that this is entertainment. yes he has had vids with extreme personal connections, but not all of what he does can be set to an expectation that everything else he does is going to connect like that as well.
do not combine his message of gratitude and success with any of his songs. keep Ren Gill separate from Ren during a performance. that would be akin to being terrified of Samuel Jackson because of pulp fiction.
Quentin Tarantino style, no lullaby.
he loves exploring the dark side.
I loved Stephen king books and horror movies, I still enjoy exploring the darkness.
doesn't change my character.
people love horror because it's a way to experience the fear and shock without the consequences of reality.
I can't wait till Ren can be in charge of his own show, wether on TV or movies...hopefully there is a studio exec out there smart enough to let him have the reigns completely.
he has already proven he has mastered high quality on no $ production budget.....
I look forward to anything and everything this young man will create, enthusiastically.
LESSS GOOO
Musically, it reminded of a 60s Brit Gangster movie soundtrack, crossed with Kid Creole.
Kid Creole (& the Coconuts) haven't heard that name in forever, the "rat tat tat" in Murderer sounds like Ha cha cha cha in "Stool Pigeon". In my memory it does anyway.
I always laugh when he's wrestling the guy to chloroform him in the distance. I don't know why its so humorous. Its like the trunk scene in good fellas. It shouldn't be as funny as it is.
He's playing an earlier version of the Animal Flow character
Thank you Sir!
You are welcome!
You said "expanded range of expression" ... someone else said layers of an onion ... I couldn't agree more.
It's not just the flow of several bars(?) ... it's also the transitions in and out of a new tempo (cadence?).
The guy who was put in the boot/trunk is the same one tied up in Animal Flow... Im hoping this album turns out to be some Floyd Dark Side shit
While I'm certain you are correct that Ren is playing a character in this, I'm 99% certain this song was written and filmed sometime before Hi Ren was released. Ren wrote and filmed a number of videos before heading to Canada for treatment and has been drip-feeding them while there. The only song that was written & filmed this year was For Joe (and the 2nd part of Su!cide) I think it was just a coincidence that Murderer and 1M video came at roughly the same time
Idk how much you read the comments (especially on older videos) 😂 but...
I Absolutely love ren and your reactions are brilliant mate...I show them to my daughter who is only 15 but sings pretty well imo, because I want her to see what you see in the hope it helps her develop her vocals (videos on my channel btw)
Anyhoo...since you love ren and his sing rap style...I thought I'd ask you if anyone has ever recommended dappys music to you before? His beautiful me acoustic where he plays piano sings and raps is absolutely amazing imo...hope u check it out even if you don't react to it as his voice is epic 😎 🙏🥰
"Shocking like a finger in the anus" "you don't hear a lot of guys do that"... True.
great reaction. Reconciling the contradiction between the humble, grateful Ren who just reached 1M subs and the 'murderer' is interesting. Of course, for me, it helps to keep in mind that the song was done about a year ago. Also, we can all be glad that he prepared ahead of time to have music to release while he's in Canada for treatment.
Love your reactions! Have you seen the live version of Hi Ren already? You would love it, I'm sure 🥹
Yes. Amazing!!
Did you see his funeral for King Dotta in the ongoing 3-way Rap Battle? It was something I enjoyed a lot, and was by turns brutal and Ren-uplifting. The challenge and reply both reference this, as well as other bits of Ren artistry and literatur, as well as traditional and subverted Rap Battle formats.
Ren has said this song is a prequel to Animal Flow. The man they kidnapped is hung from the rack at the beginning of the video.
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Please Chris, check Tallah - Overconfidence. You will love it !
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