The Strongest Ability in JoJo's The Spin
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2022
- METAs - The Spin is Incredible powerful and is the strongest Ability in Jojo's
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Imagine dedicating your life to a technique only to get completely outclassed by a cripple with magic fingernails
then DIE to the saint's power who your whole religion is dedicated to.
:'c
Then for your descendant to be even more powerful but to rub more salt in the enemy’s wounds they getting clapped by “bubbles”
@@johnathanortiz3066 gyro's descendant?
@@sarojandongol1482 read the og comment wrong thought he meant Johnny originally lmao f it zeppeli new jojo confirmed 🥴
@@johnathanortiz3066 i feel like gyro had more spotlight than johnny, it almost felt like he was a jojo
or maybe i just misremembered SBR
Fun fact: Spin is a real thing within Quantum Physics. Quantum spin is a form of angular momentum carried by subatomic particles 🤓
Wow that’s actually really cool!
Super Nice!!!!
the Jojofication of Quantum Physics
Yes. Everything spins
@@johnartis6514 yes. Everything is a JoJo reference.
The shit you can do with Hamon is pretty nuts, especially because it's more or less confirmed that Hamon can eventually develop into a variation of Hermit Purple, allowing a degree of precognition and clairvoyance. The problem is that this ability only seems to extend to older users like Tonpetty, Joseph, and Jonathan's body, and even then the psychic abilities of Hamon do not necessarily correlate to the Stand abilities we see Joseph use, namely the ability to grow Hamon-infused psychic vines and throw them around, or to perceive Stands in others. That said, no one but Tonpetty would have had the prerequisite skill and experience to develop a Hamon Stand in Part 1, and Straitzo may not have achieved it either, so it's entirely possible that there were Hamon Stand users around and we just didn't see them because there were no other Stands to see at the time.
Stands are literally refered to as 'Spirit Hamon' and when Introduced for the first Time in part 3 it required breathing to manifest your Stand. Imagine if the safest way to unlock a Stand was through Hamon Training instead of betting your Life with the arrow.
@@PigeonJr. I could see that - considering how much control over your life Force Hamon gives, you could probably draw out that Fightning energy easier if you knew what it was
Kars with Max Hamon would go crazy
Someone with hamon could probably just become a god ngl I think we just didint see enough people using it to develop it
@@PigeonJr. Safer but still dangerous
damn if you think about Soft and Wet's ability was actually an extension of Wekapipo's wrecking ball the entire time.
I said the same thing last year but got shot down lol
Hamon: B R E A T H
spin: B A L L Z
Imagine meeting a person who got a stand, then learned Spin and Hamon and became experienced, his stand evolved thanks to the Spin and his fighting style includes Hamon, Spin and his stand, not to mention he fights with his fists and with his stand.
I feel that hamon would be out shined but I feel that dual wielding spin and a stand automatically makes you incredibly powerful and has very interesting power scaling
And a requiem stand ;)
@@lilwheezer6694 hamon is far more versatile and I’d argue better than spin it’s just that we haven’t seen it pushed to the limits ye like we’ve seen with spin plus the strongest hamon has reached is to instantly melt a human’s flesh (ultimate kars feat btw)
@@steem6279 so hamon infused spin balls that are infinite and melt skin bro
Spin + clacker boomerang
That Hamon disrespect towards the end. People forgot that Hamon can instantly kill people by giving them heart attacks (Look at Caesar's Friend, Mark in part 2) or just straight up knocking them out (Joseph who has barely any knowledge in Hamon knocked a guard using Hamon) alongside Mind Control, it can literally do the same thing as Spin aka controlling people but Hamon actually controls the person's mind which is far superior than Spin's body puppetry unless you are implying that Body Control>Mind Control. Hamon can literally shred stone, what is stopping them from placing hamon inside a person and shred their organs instead?
Hamon can literally be used for the ranged game too look at Zeppeli's Hamon Cutter and Caesar's whole bubble fighting style. They can be as good as the Spin Users, its just the infinite rotation is extremely busted. Hamon should enhance the user's physical attributes since Caesar gave this lady hamon with his mind control hamon hax and she was demolishing Joseph. Also Hamon's regeneration is also very good.
I'd like to think that the Hamon and Spin got their own ups and downs, it is similar to Naruto. The Hamon is the Byakugan and The Spin is the Sharingan both got epic abilities but The Spin/Sharingan got more upgrades and ended up looking more op than the other aka Hamon and Byakugan. Also hamon gets downplayed too when people think Hamon is only good for undead dudes when clearly that's not the case.
I don't know what emotion compelled this rant but Spin is superior if for no other reason than the fact that disrupting a user's breathing doesn't render them unable to use it like Hamon. The Infinite Spin is also one of the most busted abilities in Jojo as a whole meanwhile the supreme offensive manifestation of Hamon is Kars' super Hamon laser, it isn't even close.
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Dude, Hamon can literally give People heart attacks with a single touch. It does not matter, I already admitted in the post that Spin shits on Hamon but it does not change the fact that its still a great Ability. The video creator was shitting on Hamon towards the end for no reason.
What would happen if someone had hamon and spin?
@@Baken384 shitting on it, in perspective of OP spin.
@@Baken384 mark was split in half, it wouldnt take much to get rid of that life energy
I realized that gyro dies because of the epileptic sphere but also because Lucy was on him, this perfectly fits his statement saying women are bad luck in the black more arc
Araki is a genius
gyro did say the only woman he rides with is lady luck😪and when lucy rode with him, he lost his luck
Any mathematician who obtains knowledge of the spin, and a stand, within JJBA's universe, would body the whole cast. Especially if Araki continues his trend of math-based super abilities.
I mean, isnt josuke8 a math wizz? i remember him being able to perfectly calculate a lot of things heights and measurements in the part just with his eyes. plus he can actually utilise the spin already
Gyro's Ball Breaker failed because Love Train shaved his steel ball, making it no longer a perfect sphere
So you're saying Valentine shaved Gyro's balls?
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Honestly I love the fact that Araki created a unique (and at least slightly grounded in real world physics) power system that could rival even some of the top tier stands. It just shows how talented he is, that after 6 prior entire story arcs he was able to create something new and refreshing leading to what most people consider to be his magnum opus. Good on you Araki.
I wonder if being part Kira is why Josuke was able to use the spin to it's fullest potential. Kira was a ship doctor, after all. He would naturally know a great deal about human anatomy.
Id say that being park kira is why Josuke can land Go Beyond at the end of the part lol
@@0Chino13wasn’t it because yasuho helped guide it with paisley park?
@@notaco2hu tbh i really can't remember what was going through my mind there, could be just a joke
6:40 I disagree with you putting the picture of Sticky Fingers when talking about the stands that would lose to spin. I actually think that Bucciarati is one of the few stand users who can hold his own against Gyro because of how creative and versatile Sticky Fingers is.
I knew one of you fuckers would say this lmao I should’ve put Mista lmao
@@METAsMETAs You should have lol
@@METAsMETAs naa naa Mista is protected by some fate bs
@@zamuda3852 What's Mista gonna do when his airplane gets balls handed to him?
@@zamuda3852 fate isnt bs bro, how tf do u think made in heaven work?
To be fair, vampirism is probably only held back from being the best power system because it means you can never see sunlight again.
That's not an issue with a basement dweller such as I!
I haven't seen the sun in 3 years and I already got the complexion of a troglodyte.
Also dont forget that
Stone Mask gives different effect for Humans and Pillarmen
A Human affected by the Mask ends up turning them into what the Pillarmen are, Human like Race that is just much more powerfull but is Weak to the Sun, but they consume less energy and can consume more type of life force
While Pillarmen that gets affected by the Stone Mask actually need to consume far more energy but you get a really big increase in power, almost supernatural even
@@RenoKyrie also hamon doesn't effect much to pillarmen
@@RenoKyrie humans turn to vampires pillar men look down on vampires as lower life forms they also eat vampires
pillar men are the closest you can get to still be called 'vampire' lifeform thats still weak to the sun but still being stronger than vampires like dio and straizo
Personally I can only see Dio and Straizo choice to turn into vampires as stuipid... unless they could change their beings to actual pillar men or evolve into the ultimate being like Kars, they give up the power of being a blank slate human and they also give up hamon ability which protect them from pillar men which as I said pillar men are stronger than vampires but less weak to the sun which effectively makes them just better form of vampires
In jojo verse i think it goes zombie-vampire-pillar men-Hamon human-stone mask pillar men-ultimate being
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I would go further and say that he bodies practically 70% of the cast at his maximum, assuming he's not caught off guard and this is a white room. Spin is really broken and there's not a lot of people that could defend against it.
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The only guess for how tf you beat Spin is TS, but that only works if the Spin user is bad at spinning.
You really missed the chance to say "I would go beyond and say.."
It's so cool that the golden ratio if placed over a human body leads to the heart
I have a theory that would make Tusk act 4 stronger than what it is. This theory, in short, explain how the nail bullets of act 4 may have the same "Go Beyond" properties that Soft & Wet has.
You see, S&W:GB bubbles have two main properties; it's spin and explosive capabilities. The spin is what makes them invisible and, most importantly, go beyond logic, while it's explosive power is what makes them deal damage.
TA4, in the other hand, deals damage in a different way, but it also has a greater level of spin. My point is, if a weaker spin can make the lines of the soap bubbles "disappear", why couldn't the Golden Spin make the nail bullets spin infinitely close to the point of zero too? If the problem is that they need to spin incredibly fast, well with the Golden Spin they literally have Infinite energy, they could easily have an infinite spin velocity as well.
Of course, this is only a personal opinion, but I would like to read what you think.
Now that’s some big brain stuff
If that's the case, then what would happen if those two spins hit each other? Would Tusk's spin win because it is more powerful? Or would S&W's win because of the explosive damage bonus?
@@skyrt7426 Good question! The way I see it is, if both attacks collide, their spin will either get weaker or canceled at all. In the case of Tusk, it's only way to cancel it is with another infinite rotation spinning in the opposite direction. Also, I do not see it possible to weaken the infinite energy. Since S&W do not use the Infinite rotation, I believe it has no possibilities against Tusk.
Johny is only new to spin, maybe johnny on JOJOLION can do more spin tricks and maybe even use Ta4 without a horse like how gyro is able to use ball breaker despite not being on a horse
@@jrozlie2280 yeah probably bc in jojolin we can see Johny actually use the spin to actually walk again so if he keep training the spin potential
Hamon: you have to breath and what if your breathing is cut off
Vamp: The sun is a deadly laser
Spin: can be used in basically any situation. All you need is a rectangle shaped object (Aka basically everything) can be infused with stands.
I think the only downside to Spin is purely based on the user's Intelligence rather than the Power-system itself, I think that this is the way that Spin has balanced itself as a Power-system compared to Hamon, Vampirism and to a certain extent Stands.
Oh and you have to be next to nature ( artificial beings does not count) so unlike vamp and hamon spin wouldn’t work in a white box setting
Yeah but spin won't allow one to access the knowledge of fate itself nor have acces to immortality
Edit: also you could infused hamon in stand abilities
@@hainguyn948 well no dio knowing heaven is because he was stuck in a box for 100 years so it’s not necessary vampire giving it to you.
@@andywu1981 "artificial beings don't count"? sorry to bother, but aren't the steel balls and Soft & Wet: Go Beyond's bubbles artificial?
You kinda forget to mention that you need a perfect sphere to summon the infinate rotation.
Of perfect manicure
A perfect sphere? That’s kinda not possible to get
Johny's fingernails are not perfect Sphere by a long shot
6:58 never before have i seen a person enjoy saying the word "balls" as much as this
Fun fact, some digital art software (I'm only saying some because I haven't been able to use many) have the golden ratio as a preset for adjusting the dimensions of images and elements in them. I know that it's in Adobe Illustrator with a special identifier where the box surrounding the image/element turns a shade of yellow rather than the default black.
I think hamon could be useful as a passive buff, Healing and strength boost as well as some utility, but as your only ability, no.
On part 1 and 2, Hamon allows you to body almost anyone, part 3 onwards, you'll need a decent enough stand and maybe a gun on top of everything else if you want to have any chance of survival.
Not being able to see most stands is one of the biggest downsides of not having one yourself
I’m pretty sure that the wrecking balls had a downside that it couldn’t reach perfect spin(since gyro’s steel balls are perfectly soft and the wrecking balls have those little bumps)
The spin is powerful the same way that Sticky Fingers and Yo Yo Ma are. In their own right, they are a beast, but they have the unfortunate fate of not being all that flashy compared to the other powerhouses they are with (Purple Haze, Gold Experience, Diver Down) so most people overlook how busted they can really be.
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Hamon was matched by science with UV lights. The Spin we can't even begin to match.
if you REALLY need something to do what the spin does just shoot someone. guns are to the spin what uv lights are to hamon.
@@SteveIsHavingMC uv light and guns are the watered down version of both if i had to fight a vampire id rather learn hamon then think some uvlight is just gonna work same thing for spin too
@@Zenden1ST uv lights were much more effective than hamon vs kars zombie army. however for pillar men you need hamon
12:30
FV hit by nail bullet: "what happen to me, why my body be like spring. why i always get pulled here"
tooru hit by rotate bubble: "am i bleed? yup, i still got time"
I feel like there is alot more than can be covered about part 7 so i hope we see more of these!
The only thing i dont like about spin is that spin users usually doesnt have a consistent defensive capability, for example Johnny can simply die with a headshot
gyro was able to delfect bullets by using spin on his own body to harden his own skin, to be fair.
Man I love your videos
Been waiting on this one. Best part, best power system, makes sense.
I feel like Soft And Wet : Go Beyond has a lot of potential because in one lesson of Spin, he surpassed Johnny who needed 4 lessons. Imagine a fight between Soft and wet with four lessons against Wonder of U requiem.
it’s base ability is already insane, and it’s limits are unknown, so with that on top of go beyond soft and wet is most likely the strongest stand in jojos
To be fair, go beyond is actively uncontrollable by josuke, he can barely even fire it off of his body. And without the assistance of map/phone stand (name blank for real) it would have done nothing.
@@theunicornwar7589 paisley park ?
The way I see it, Hamon is much more versatile. It can heal people, make people stronger, burn through flesh if strong enough, and even possess people. It's also easier to master. Spin tho is WAY better in a fight. It can manipulate a person's body to an extremely high degree, and even rip through time and space. Of course, if strong enough. That's pretty much it tho. But that's probably because we aren't aware of other Spin techniques tho. Same could be said about Hamon too. It is however harder to master. Melting people is pretty good, but what about breaking dimensional barriers meant to teleport any threats that touches it to another part of the world?
It's also much easier to get a stand out of using Hamon. And it doesn't seem to require complete mastery over Hamon to get one. Even if stands like Hermit Purple stand no change against Ball Breaker. Hamon itself also isn't that great against non vampires. It's only great against them if they're almost dying, or if you're just super good at it. Spin however works on everyone equally. So imo, Hamon is low risk, good reward. While Spin is high risk, god tier reward.
*The strongest ability in Jojo, the spin.*
Ger: "Hold my brouch.."
Haha funni bubble go through logic
Ger in a nutshell. Nope
Hamon + Spin = Minimized Spinning ball of SCP 001 When day breaks for Vampires Or Minimized spinning ball of 3rd degree burns for humans
During the fight between Wekapipo and Gyro, Wekapipo makes explicit the fact that his rotation technique is different from that of the Zeppeli family, since he, unlike Gyro, does not use the golden ratio, so in the hypothetical case in which Wekapipo knows how to use the golden ratio together with wrecking ball and getting them to work together would probably generate a totally broken ability, which could beat more or less 90% of jojo's cast. Yes, the spin is broken to absurd levels
hey meta im a big fan of your videos and after watching this amazing video i noticed that you didn't put in any spoiler warnings no i have read all parts but i was just thinking what about new fans any way thanks
3:20 "It just gets very weird almost questionably at some points.."
The word you're looking for is 'Bizarre'
I liked the video, but the Part 8 segment could have been better. With all the „It is better then Tusk Act 4, and it's crazy powerfull, but I can't show you right now. You'll have to belive me, and wait for the next video” it seemed a bit silly. I think, that at least this part, would have been much more powerfull in a followup video to the Go Beyond video, when you have material that you can refer to.
I just realized that funny valentine is the ultimate user of the ultimate jostar technique invented by Joseph
What if a person used hamon instead of a horse to perform the perfect spin
Or what if a person used the spin technique to manipulate their hamon
Wekapipo: Haha, you fool! I attacked you in a glacier wasteland, where is your precious golden rectangle now?
Gyro mfs: ✋
Spin aside, I think hamon is still the better choice over stands for normal people. There are some major drawbacks coming from stands, mainly attracting other stand users and from what we saw most of these people need psychological help. That is if the stand itself doesn't kill the user because he/she has weak willpower or worse, killing the user is the stands ability.
Hamon on the other hand keeps you young and healthy. In rare cases it can give you an idea of the future. You can live a quiet life with no fights at all, something that is extremely unlikely as a stand user.
Spin is on a different level. It has the most utility and no drawbacks. That's the reason I think in a normal life the choice should be spin>hamon>stand.
The Zeppeli might be trying to imitate the pillar men with their body control
Wrecking balls are all offence and they don’t use the golden rectangles which is why I think wrecking balls are way weaker, also the spin we see in part 7 isn’t the only form of the spin there’s more versions of it like wrecking balls and I’m hoping we see more of the other variants
Gyro could absolutely make you shit yourself and I respect that he still chooses not to.
Johnny after seeing a rectangle: "UNLIMITED POWER!!!!"
"balls" -metas 2022
I’d still argue Hamon is good. It’s definitely not *as good* as Spin or Stands, but it can do a lot.
Fun fact: the spin is technically the only ability from JoJo's that exists in real life
Just that we can't control the spin because it's at a subatomic level
So we can only measure it
i was thinking of a stand idea, a stand that can creat basic guns. and might i ask, if a basic spin user had a rifled gun, with rotating bullets would spin apply? not to the degree of the steel balls but still, a lil bit of spin, as a treat.
7:03 "Thats a lot of balls" - METAs
I don’t know how this thought. Amen into my mind today, but I’ve recently got back into Beyblade and I wondered…
What would happen is Johnny span a Beyblade?
Gyro Vs Risotto would be a cool fight
Bizzare idea for a bizzare adventure; Hamon user learns to use spin then gets pierced by a stand arrow, and manages to complete the Made In Heaven plan on top of it all
Who would win :
Conventional firearms, Physical manifestation of the very soul, Logic of the world itself
spinny strings and balls
I would say that hamon is better than a lot of stands, it just happens to outdone by the more popular ones.
Although Soft and Wet Go Beyond may be able to defy logic itself I do not consider it as stronger than Tusk Act 4. Yes it is also busted but it is more like a ZA HANDO but in the form of a bubble. Just to compare, although I think Josuke’s Go Beyond could manage to surpass Love Train defense I don’t think it could manage to defeat Valentine due to being able to just switch bodies, while Tusk Act 4 is literally unstoppable. But the same could be said about Johnny if he had to face Wonder of U, if he had the intention I think he couldn’t manage to start the infinite rotation due to some calamity such as falling from his horse or the like. Overall I think Soft and Wet is more versatile than Tusk due to the latter requiring the use of a horse to access its full potential. Both are great Stands and were meant to overcome different challenges.
Spin goes vroom vroom
Nice
Remember in the chocolate disco fight where he just dented his own face
i think the Spin is the best ability because anyone can do it, and its fairly fun, but limited somewhat in variety, but with lots of abilities
I think stands are solid because theyre awesome, can be used alongside either of the other abilities, have a ton of variety and ablities, but can lack in the fun department if its not a main character stand
i think hammon is the weakest ability but one of the coolest and most fun. I think it was kinda done dirty by being thrown away so heavily when it still had a ton of potential to be phased out in part 3 with, you know, the last vampire, and introduce stands at the same time, and it has tons of abilities, but its very, well bland. We got some cool side characters with it but nothing came of that, it was kinda just punchy punchy so it lacked pizzazz. I think hammon should have gotten a better end rather than be completely thrown out like it did, thats all
Wekapipo cant access ball breaker because the wrecking balls arent a perfect sphere therefor they wouldn't have a perfect rotation
Ok then , want to talk about something intresting . Can Gyro and his spin defeat the Piller man , Kars , Wamu , Esidisi and at a final round Ultimate Kars . Lets see if spin can defeat gods
So, hear me out, ultamite kars, or a pillar man that ascended, with infinite spin, hamon with the same power as the actuall sun, and a requiem stand like GER. And how would they do against twoh and spoh
Imagine is gappy spun go beyond in the golden ratio or even a normal soap bubble
If im correct
Basically inf is...E.
So if it touches absolutley anything even air
It will heat up infinitley fast to an infinite heat at an infinite sound.
If it slows down and if it touches water it can technically create a whirlpool to sink a entire navy.
It can spin in a direction to create a ENORMOUS wave. Prob thousands of feet
And If im correct and the universe is...A thing or like..Is idk, And its a circle
It can technically spin the whole universe
And maybe everything within it
It just can destroy entire galaxies in an infinitley small amount of time if possible...God
As meti once said the spin formula is in the pepsi logo
Wrecking Balls + Ball breaker= 8+ Stands?....
Would that be a Ball Breaker machine gun with mini stands right behind it???
Araki "Write that down Write that down!!!"
Actually Wekipipo's spin doesn't use the golden ratio like Gyro's spin. The golden ratio is a Zepelli specific spin
the spin created a stand
Crazy how akira could make freaking BUBBLES op
The spin is better than the curve from the movie wanted.
hamon is old. if araki brings it back in part 9 he will make to so that its comparable to alot of stands
Take a shot everytime he says ball and spin
If soft and wet can steal anything can it steal souls? Or stands? Or steal abilities? Or steal requiem
Imagine a Love Train stand like but his barrier is actually a spin and he literally spins whatever touchs it
maybe his powers would be close to Cream too, because he problably whould have to surpass walls, break them, and fly too, and even more
Yes finally spitting the fact that GER does not show upper scaling than SPIN bubbles
It still blows my mind that Gyro's stand isn't actually his stand, but belongs to his steel ball when it achieves the Golden Spin, following the trend of relatively normal badass Jobros despite being a Spin User
Part 8 spoliers
Soft and wet go beyond is kinda like ball breaker hear me out basically gyro unlocked his stand ball breaker through perfect rotational energy aka spin = stand basically soft and wet is the opposite of that so stand = get spin basically
Now spin the earth
The Spin is THE definition of "Practical Mathematics"
I *really* think that Gappy in the thumbnails is a spoiler.
Man Ceasar with Hamom + Spin he would be unstopable
Imagine if someone mástered hamond AND the spin.
hype!!
the amount of times he said BALLS
hamon has the potential but no human will ever get there and only kars would ever reach hamon so hamon is very good but it’s never usable at a good state
the secret ingredient of spin is that only zeppelis is called
[ ~ the bakugan spin ~ ]
Outro music name pls?
Spin is just alternate hamone we both don't get to see both techniques
can you make a video on how ultimate kars would fare against stands? his ability is basically a golden experience that is active constantly but i figure he has enough differences to warrant this question.
I think only the stands which can one shot him like Cream (Destroy him before he can regenerate), TA4 (Probably, if Kars dosn't just learn to control spin), D4C (Bringing alternate Kars), WOU (Probably, it negates defenses in a way so it can probably destroy Kars somehow), Heaven's Door (Writing something to stop him). There might be a few more like The hand and SnW:GB but they are not that consistent in my opinion. GER most likely needs to kill someone to start infinite death loop so it will be just a stalemate.
Now I know what it sounds like. So now what does it smell like!
A new steel ball would smell like new steel and a old wouldn’t have one
Johnny and Happy use the spin using their stands.
Would Gyro be able to produce the necessary golden rectangle at below -100 degrees?
gyro the only man that makes me simp harder than i would to rohan in jojos lolol dude got gold teeth stamped with "go go zeppeli" just to flex on them, AND he literally gives up the corpse parts not only to jhonny to others as well just cause he knew he was goated, he didnt need a piece of jesus to be godlike lol
God good thing these people are protagonists
I won't deny that Spin is powerful, but it feels way less interesting to me because it feels like a bigger hammer contest. Its ultimate ability being infinite damage just, feels kinda bland? People clown on Dragonball for bigger ki ball syndrome for the same reason.