Fleetwood Mac Jeremy Spencer or Bob Welch
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Was Jeremy Spencer or Bob Welch a better fit with Danny Kirwan? Here are two live renditions of "Tell Me All The Things You Do" showing how different each sounded. The first features Jeremy sharing lead guitar with Danny; the second with Bob playing rhythm.
Danny and Jeremy playing off of each other is a revelation, not only in this number, but in other Kirwan songs such as Purple Dancer and Station Man. I find it hard to understand the band never performed Station Man live during the time Bob and Danny were together. Was it because the slide guitar was such an integral piece in the song? Could Bob play the parts effectively? Peter and Danny did perform Station Man and Purple Dancer live in San Bernardino shortly after Jeremy left the band. The songs took on a whole different vibe without Spencer's contributions. (nothing against Peter, mind you).
Moving on to the second rendition, I found Danny's work to be on a whole new level of excellence. My ears tell me Bob is in the background throughout. Kirwan is magnificent. When Bob came aboard Danny expanded his own skills without relying on Welch other than playing rhythm to support his numbers. Both periods produced wonderful music, but in my opinion, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan were the better team. I do believe Danny created his finest work with Bob in the band, but it wasn't due to Bob's collaboration.
Happy birthday, Jeremy. Would appreciate knowing your thoughts.
The version with Jeremy is fantastic but Danny's work with Bob especially on Future Games is a masterpiece.
I believe if you take a poll, FM fans would unanimously select Bare Trees and Future Games over Kiln House. I'd be in that camp as well. For those who haven't followed FM before Bob Welch, you are missing out big time. It's no secret the time with Peter Green is mind blowing, but the Kiln House LP is underrated to say the least. The song "Future Games" is a masterpiece. However, we all know now Bob wasn't good for Danny. Among other things, Welch was trying to prod Mick into firing Danny a few months into his tenure. The fact that lineup carried on for another year and was able to give us such glorious music is incredible.
I think Jeremy and Danny definitely worked better together. They got on very well (at least from what I've heard about them working on Spencer's first solo album). And musically there was so much chemistry. The Madison Blues compilation which has a ton of demos/live from kiln house era really shows how well they gelled and complemented each others playing, the band is insanely tight.
As for Station Man I think it's both the slide being an integral part and Bob not being able play the parts well. That's what makes me think that Bob Weston maybe would've been a better fit to work with Danny for something like that and the Purple Dancer on stage.
Can't deny that Kirwan/Welch's work together was fantastic, even if Welch didn't contribute and gell as much with Kirwan. It's interesting how much their material on future games complemented each others. Musically the band sounds great during the future games lineup, a bit softer at times compared to previous stuff but they could still rock out and improv and Christine's keyboards became a lot more prominent because of having only 1 lead guitarist. I fucking love how much Kirwan takes over in the 1972 renditions of TMATTYD, because the way Kirwan/Spencer played together imo didn't work as well for a song like that. It needs a lot of rockin soloing and less interplay between the guitarists.
Also gotta add that I think the lineup during the time Peter rejoined to help them finish their tour could've perfected their material if that iteration stuck around. I assume you've heard the 20 min version of TMATTYD that spirals into a fantastic jam from the San Bernardino show and that just showed how perfect that lineup was. The live songs could've been perfected and you have all the best players of the Mac all together.
Wonderful post.
Sure wish the Children of God hadn't gotten their hooks into Jeremy. The band could have gone on forever with the Kiln House line-up.
Bob. Maybe only for the fact that Jeremy joined a disgusting predator cult.