Stall (paragliding tutorial) | Max Martini
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I think this is the best stall tutorial I've ever seen. A video of the highest quality Mr. Martini!
Thanks dear
The more you teach us, the better we are
Yes! I do know what tremendous effort it takes to produce a video like this one Max! My thanks to you Amigo! I have spent as long as two hours sometimes just looking for one photo or video clip.....and NOT found it! So yes, your efforts here & elsewhere are deeply appreciated!
You are very good man , the way you show with extra graphics and different views is very valuable for newbies. Thanks alot
Max, one of the explanations of stalls I've seen. You are a legend :-)
Thank you for making this video Max! I'm going to share it with all of my students and use it in my presentations. You presented excellent methods to practice safely when not training over water.
Thank you very much, sir! I hope it helps your students!
Those ground handling exercises look epic.
This is great! Very easy to understand, and I love the baby-step progression steps you broke down. Can't wait to start step one.
thanks a lot max for this video. I've now been educated regarding this sport.
Max, thanks heaps for this video. I was given a link to it by Mark Mitsos and it has been very enlightening. I fly an Icepeak 6 and had a really bad surge a number of months ago after an accidental parachutal...glider ended up in a ball underneath me. I will be watching your videos now.
Thanks! I'm glad you survived!
Very nice video! But i think that one should fly some full stalls before searching and releasing the stall point - the danger of overshooting and falling into the wing is very high (yes, speaking from experience, even if i missed the wing ;D) if you release just too late. Meanwhile if you pull a full stall and do not release before the glider comes back over your head the wing will most likely not have enough energy to overshoot enough for falling into it. Touching the stall point is an exercise which feels easy if it works but can get extremely nasty if you screw it up. By practicing pitch control nobody is prepared to stop a strongly overshooting stalled wing.
Thanks, and thank you very much for your input! I agree: if too heavy handed any stall practice can end horribly!
It is a very delicate topic to talk about what method is better, I understand your point but it is only effective if you practice over water with rescue boat because even if it is only a simple fullstall there is still a lot to go wrong.
I learned the exact same way I'm showing in the video and did around 150 prestalls before atempting my first backfly/fullstall.
Thank you very much for this tutorial.
Eu espero que um dia vamos a voar juntos no Brasil. Eu gosto muito na energia que você esta transmitindo. Gratidão querido irmão.
Primož Kante muito obrigado 🙏 Vamos VOAR!!!!
Excellent tutorial, I hope you will make some others if you can ! Cheers and thank you !
+Yoann Grudzien thanks! I definetely will do some more, in fact I already planned the next tutorial but right now i'm working and saving some money to be able to maintain this lifestyle.... Be patient 2017 will come some nice videos!
you are One of the Best Videomakers and Pilots...... ....Top !!! Greetings from Chris B. from Austria(CBM-MUNICH)
Vielen Dank! Liebe Grüsse!
Anotado! Bora masterizar o stall!
Best stall,fore aft pendulum control video in the world!
Thanks max!!
Thanks man ! It’s always good to go over these techniques again !
Great video. Everything is explained well and is easy to understand. I especially liked that you included some theory and that you used low performance paragliders. Keep up the good work and fly safe :)
Hey, I´m glad you like it. Fly safe!
parabéns cara, ótima iniciativa. utilidade pública esta aula.
Estes exercícios já deve ter salvado muita gente de ficar traumatizado e parar de voar
Very Nice Compleat Video about All the Kind of Stall , Thanks Max , also you can do it over the water with a rescue boat & life jaket the first few time you make a new move :)
Merci Justin, I'm glad you like it. I intentionally didn't mention practicing over water because I think it is unnecessary and expensive. When you practice in this order and have enough altitude over the box (min. 300) you won't need any special environment.
Great Video. Thank you very much. It helped me a lot learning stalls the last days.
Exellent tutorial. Thanks for clear explanations.
Awesome video Max, I learned heaps. Can't wait to practice
Thanks for your effort Max!
I wish I saw this before breaking my legs . Thank you bro 👊
you're awesome bro! best tutorial ever!
Excelente, claro, explicito, sin tantas palabras. Contundente.
Great video. I will work on these with my instructor.
Excellent video! Than you for sharing!
Thank You! I hope it´s helpful!
Really nicely rendered vid acompanied with good instructions. Great job.
thanks ;-)
Loved the video and really appreciate your efforts. Cheers!!!
Thank you!
Awesome video. Thanks for making it for us. I learned so much from this.
thanks for saving many vertebrae. nowl to the hill to practice
This tutorial is the best - many thanks!
Cr0way thanks! Fly safe!
Thanks for your coo tips! Learned a lot from it. I think, training stall point in 2 m height after take-off is dangerous, though - unless you're already a very, very experienced pilot.
Real nice job!!! Keep going Max!
Thank you for making a great video. Most helpful!
Thank you, John!
con le ali si nasce...Grande
Awesome video! Exellent tutorial! thank you very much!
Great video. Very good explanation :)
Please keep making these man. Great info!!!
Excellent video
Excellent. For sure I'll share.
Really an excellent video. Thank you.
Brilliant video, thank you!
A great tutorial, thank you
Muy buen tutorial , gracias Max !!!
Hey Max, I was just thinking about doing an how to full stalls for beginners. And then I saw your video which was
way better than I would have done. It is very well explained and I like the exercises that you gave. Only one thing worried me tho, when I tried to find my stall point last year, it ended in a full stall and I wasn't mentally prepared for it. Of course I asked ALOT of questions before doing so, but still wasn't really expecting that. Luckily I managed to get out of it well. So my question is: Wouldn't it be a good idea that the person start by the full stall before doing any of this(Except pitch pendulum wich I consider no.1 step.), just to be sure that the person will react well if something goes wrong?
Hey Samuel, I´m really glad you like it!
Well, to answer your question: No, the purpose of those exercises were to prepare for a Fullstall. Pitch pendulum to get comfortable with the surge (fullstall exit), min. velocity to stabilize before stall, and last but not least stall point release shows you max. brake course. When you mastered those steps fullstalls and deepstalls will be easier and safer.
Do you have a video of your stall training or maybe from that actual incident?
MUCHAS GRACIAS O POR SU TIEMPO Y POR EDUCARNOS
Man, this is great, thank you a lot!!! Thanks to you I've realized the stall phenomenon can be contained, controlled and practiced. Just one question, why you advice to put the legs under the seat when exercising those things, please?
Good question! It has to do with body symmetry and centrifugal force...
...when practicing stalls you have to make sure your body weight is symmetric, so when you accidentally start turning while stalling you will quickly realize that your hands/brakes are not even.
Also if you start spinning for some reason and your legs are stretched out you increase the risk of riser twist because your body takes longer to follow the rotation of the wing.
I´m happy that you enjoyed this little tutorial!
That absolutely makes sens, thanks again! By the way, I wonder if you ever realize how significant and remarkable your "little tutorial" is...? Stall for what I've experienced so far from interactions with other, ever quite experienced pilots, is ONLY some scary thing you better avoid by all means. You prove you can get familiar with it, control it and even... USE it for you advantage - this is bold! And I strongly believe there already are, or will be, human beings whose lives you've saved not being aware of it! I'm so happy I've come against this video. Thank God for you, man. :-) P.S. If you have some more of this kind of paragliding skill, just take your pain and record it and put it all on CZcams, please!
Thank you! Yes I´m aware of the impact this video has, and that is why I did it in first place.
For sure I have some ideas for the next video but what would you like to see next?
Man, I don't, know, maybe B'stall, collapses (frontal, partial), deep spiral, veeeery big "Big-ears", because I've heard they can be really big... Maybe how to safely land with strong wind which takes you even back against the ground... Maybe some tricks for ground-handling... Anything you are as good at as your are with stalls!. And I'm going to be honest; since I'm an enthusiast of ground-handling I'd LOVE to have some more detailed instructions on how to get into this "back-flight" when ground-handling the wing!!! That would be GREAT! ;-)
Why would anyone ever want to do these maneuvers? Would they ever come up in the course of a normal flight?
Biggest thank to you man!
Tons of thanks! For your video
Thats the best one! Thnx maan!
Wingover next! This is cool.
I´m glad you like it.
I´m sorry, I can´t do that, I´m still figuring it out myself but check out DTacro´s channel czcams.com/video/CjP6Wqz9q5I/video.html&ab_channel=DTacro
Great Job!
thanks!
I’ve been obsessed with paramoter flying the last 2 days lol looked awesome until I googled paramotor accidents and deaths. Stalled wings low to the ground due to thermal updrafts or wind shear...sounds terrifying. Still looks amazing tho
Thank you Max
grazie mille !
Sooo cool!! Congratulations!
Great! You're a master
😊🙏
Loved this video and really appreciate your efforts. Thanks. I have a U turn blackout plus 21 and I have some problems with helico can you learn me the right way to do it? Cheers.
How can I turn my wing arround and keep it flying, as you do in the minute 10 45? In that manouver, you have your arms VERY opened, and I would like to understand which lines you are using. These are the tricks for ground-handling that we all would like to know ! .
martin i'm using the brakes
Falling into the canopy, what a nightmare? If that were to ever happen, what should I do? Try to find what is up as I fall and throw my reserve in that direction? Thank you very much for this. I'm carefully studying this to decide whether I want to pursue this sport or not. I like hang-gliding too but the landings and take-off's seem more dangerous. All the best to you from Sweden.
I've read: exit the canopy first, follow sewing along the chord (shortest route). While falling put your hands in front. See where you're falling so it's easier to exit.
thanks so much
thank you great stuff from heart
Thank you, great Video
Why do people crash to the ground so often if this knowledge is available? I see so many collapse videos on youtube - are they all avoidable with better piloting?
Thank you
Bro ! Just perfect !
Is there a difference between a stall and a full-stall? I am a little bit confused about the terminology. Thanks for helping me out guys!
"Full Stall" is typically used in siv, where you fully dismount the wing, almost impossible to recover without stabilizing in a backfly first. A Stall by definition only means that the wing "stopped" producing lift. In paragliding we have many stall configurations for example pre-stall, deep-stall, etc.
@@MaxMartini22 Thank yoz Max, highly appreciated!
thankyou very much for sharing you knowlege
Muito bom Max!!
Vanleu mano!
Very simple.
good tutorail! thanks!
Hi, Max: is it possible to practice in a flat area the position you achieve in the minute 1 26? You are hanging in the air without moving forward.How can I gain altitude in a flat area with a normal EN A wing? Thanks for the video, it is very clear as always!
martin Hi Martin, no it's not possible to do it on flat, you need a mountain/dune/hill and constant 15km/h wind blowing.
At 4:42 it looks like the U-Turn Infinity4
Great, thank you !
Awesome tutorial.
Please tell me,which is a model of U Turn on 04:40min
Best regards from Montenegro
dope video! thanks!
Thank you!
I think you have the safety thing backwards 6 ft off the ground is nowhere to practice anything. If you're six feet off the ground and you're almost stalled you are in trouble. If you get a little pitch instability you will swing into the ground hard trying to figure out how to do them tricks six feet off the ground. If you're going to practice these things safely wait until you've got a couple thousand feet altitude so you have time for problems to resolve themselves.
Did you really watch the whole vídeo? Have you tried this method?
@@MaxMartini22 I watched the whole video I watched a lot of other videos. When you're flying close to the ground anywhere near a stall and you were flying into a wind near stall speed, you are asking to fall, any little bit of turbulence and a little bit of wind shift could take your air speed and drop you. When you get close to the ground you need to fly fast so you can dominate the air currents that would trip you up at stall speed.
@@markmcgoveran6811 Incredible how you are not able link the dots.
I'll ask you one last question: Why do you think this video was made for?
@@MaxMartini22 I don't understand the question? At the end. I do understand the physics of flight floating along there to low speed a couple of meters off the ground in a para glider is a risky idea. You may get by with it a few times if you're close to the ocean and you're getting that nice laminar sea breeze. Anywhere else you are begging for trouble.
@@MaxMartini22 I would guess you made this video for organ donors. Not that it matters who you made the video for when you're that close to the ground on something as light and sensitive as these paragliders you need to bring on some speed so you're dominating not getting collapsed because the friction near the ground causes a lot of weird wind currents that are hard to predict and easy to explain.
Thanks
legend mate!
very nice my friend, but is it Búzios, right?
Thanks! Florianópolis 🇧🇷
I'm still doing ground handling. I'm stuck with that for an extra few weeks. I have decided that when I land the first time after they told me up in the air all I'm going to be able to do is unbuckle my chest strap lean far forward. Come screeching in a trim speed with as much parasitic drag from standing up and spread my feet and legs wide and when I get one meter off the ground or less I'm going to pull the breaks on full into a flare just as deep as I can push them. I just don't have the talent to do anything else at this point. Focus on roll axis. I have a giant landing field so anywhere I touch in as fine as long as I can get my altitude right and slam them brakes on hard so I don't have to have any fine motor control for my brakes access controls or anything it's just flying level slam something in. I'm flying on the heavy end of the wing and I'm wondering is this going to work?
Hey, the idea is to be as symmetric as possible and recognize the stall on the brake pressure while minimizing the risk by flying as as possible
@@MaxMartini22 you left out one word as()as possible. I'm at payload not a pilot. If I come in fast moving in a straight line add a 15 degree angle of incidence. I can throw the breaks down hard both hands as fast as possible. Instead of having a skillful transition like you do I want to have a transient like a math professor does. I'm going to have a football mouthpiece and as soon as I flare those brakes I'm going to hold them down no matter what.
that's what the instructor said. He said that you had nothing to fear but fear itself at that point and if you held your hands down you would swing out and down and forward and you better be laying way out to get your legs under you so you don't land on your heels or your back. I think if you come in fast and you commit hard and quick and you bite your mouthpiece there will not be time for any asymmetry to occur. I like to stand up for the 100 ft and below. If you stand up it lowers the trim speed and tips the nose down. More tension on the lines too. I'm new at this I'm working on my ground handling and I'm scared shiftless of trying to do the pitch axis and the yaw axis, I think only the roll axis and and a mathematical transient flare hard is all I'm going to be able to do.
Your video is nicem, but can be missleading. Like using the minimal speed for landing can be very dangerous - many pilots have overbraked their gliders doing so!
Thank you very much for your constructive comment, I really appreciate it!
It should be obvious that to do a proper flare the approach is at max. velocity and close to the ground you pull quickly the brakes to min. velocity position. (It not to a stall like many would think, you touch the ground before the glider stalls)
But in fact with a constant 15km/h wind you can reduce your glide by holding min. velocity until the ground. It's totally doable especially with bigger wings with bigger glideratio. Just be carefull to not stall accidentally and/or accelerate at the wrong moment.
Sure! I understand. Your videos are just great for talented pilots with good understanting of flight mechanics... keep your great job!
Fly safe and hopefully we will meet under cloudbase!
+Petr Polách thank you very much! One day, Amen!
hero!
who?
+Max Martini you!
DieuwerF lol, no! hahaha
If i could i would follow and upvote the shit out of you more than just 1 time... THANK YOU !!
Well done Max ;-)
Thanks! I'm glad you like it!
But can I know what the hell is stall?
can you do a tutorial for speedflying? cheers
hey thank you for your request! I'm sorry but I am not experienced enough to do that... i have been speed flying for 1 year now and only at this same spot
one day maybe...I'll be waiting;)
Hi Peter. Nice video. A lot to learn though.
Best !
bravo
thanx:)
Im not even a beginner (yet) and I wonder how a normal looking guy like you uses a XS B- or C-Wing. I mean you don't look like you weigh only 60 kg. Could you elaborate why you chose to ride your glider that top-heavvy. I know it's stable and stuff but does it really get that extreme? Don't you want some lower sinkrate as well?
I flew it with 90 kg take off weight, 15 kg over the limit.
Flying like that you get more direct handling and the wing flies faster.
@@MaxMartini22 i'd recon this is something acro people do, but are you even an acro flyer? Im weighing 79kg, is a Bolero 5 S, M or L better for me? I think i want good "uptime" and good low altitude soaring on small hills.
@@MaxMartini22 Thanks for your answer Max, my flight trainer and all friends strongly disapprove such behavior. Isn't it extremely uncautious to topple the manafacturers limits? I don't know if you use if for acro, but if you don't i hope i can learn from your insights. Your last statement didn't fully convince me yet.
Every paraglider, that is certified with EN or DHV, is designed to withstand up to 8 times the maximum load. So flying it 15 kg over the top won´t influence the structural integrity of the wing, although it will change completely the behavior, which is not recommended for rookies and beginners!
@@MaxMartini22 I appreciate your input a lot as I see other people look up to you as their role-model. I feel very confused in my research about a clever way of progressing in this sport. I feel like I will be flying A LOT more than most people who have little time, so I wonder what the right Glider could be for me? My job doesn't make a lot of money and thus I fear being stuck with a "lame duck beginner Glider" for many years. Is this something to be worried about? At this point, I think I should get a S-sized wing, so I end up close to the maximum weight. Can you name three models you think are appropiate for me?
Dude falling into the canopy is something I might do a nightmare about tonight. It look soo scary @ 8:34. Is there a way out of it if it happens?
lpblewis As it shoots brake as hard as you can! Fly safe!
Excellent.!!! Irmão.
thx
have fun!
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