THE LONG-AWAITED "HERO" - Theory/Analysis || MILGRAM 2nd Trial

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Have you seen the Milgram earbuds??? I don't want them, I NEED THEM. I hope they're still buyable at the end of this month👉👈 Imagine listening to a random song and Shidou dropping "Give me the death penalty" or John's screaming haha
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    Translation of News thing:
    www.tumblr.com/ranmaru-kageya...
    French thing:
    www.tumblr.com/sequoiareaches...
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    Timestamps:
    Intro - 00:00
    MV Analysis - 00:29
    Her Outfit - 00:30
    Chess Pieces - 01:30
    Lyrics - 08:42
    Lucky! - 11:10
    The Werewolf - 14:38
    Voice Drama - 16:51
    Es & Lucky Parallels - 18:10
    Unanswered Questions - 19:00
    My Verdict - 20:26
    Outro - 21:11
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    Music in order:
    Sunny Side Up by zukisuzuki BGM
    My Name is by BGM President
    Drama by zukisuzuki BGM
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    Tags: #MILGRAM #ミルグラム #DECO27 #TakuyaYamanaka #HarukaSakurai #YunoKashiki #FutaKajiyama #MuKusunoki #ShidouKirisaki #MahiruShiina #KazuiMukuhara #AmaneMomose #MikotoKayano #KotokoYuzuriha #Kotoko #Keiko #Lucky #Es #Deepcover #Undercover #Harrow #Werewolf #Theory #Essay #Analysis #Reacting #Reaction MILGЯAM

Komentáře • 164

  • @kindnapkin
    @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +70

    Found this in my notes, I guess I forgot to add these :'D -
    • After the moon reaches it's end, the sunrise appears in 15:12 . Does it mean the moon phases we saw throughout in Deep cover are the build-ups to Kotoko's murders and the real murder starts when the sun is out aka the yellow fog?
    • The "tree's" in the forest Kotoko runs through in Harrow / also seen in minute 15:12 - look like deer antlers/horns. Kind of similar to that scene in the first opening of Beastars.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +8

      14:29 also rlly random but do you think the small heart on the building below means that Kotoko deeply cares for Lucky? I mean I know that's an actual building in this place but still it's interesting to see that the heart is exactly in this scene

    • @starpeep5769
      @starpeep5769 Před měsícem

      Yonah = Jonah.

  • @emtb5810
    @emtb5810 Před 5 měsíci +196

    i"ll also add fuuta's piece looks like a bishop which is a piece that can only walk diagonaly which can symbolise his way for cutting behind the enemy but never truly seeing the facts up front

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +27

      That's so smart!!! I rlly had trouble looking for a chess piece that resembles his. Its really helpful!!! ^^^

    • @megumimimimi
      @megumimimimi Před 5 měsíci +13

      also bishops can only move in the square color they started (e.g the bishop on black can only move on black squares) which. Tbh i have no interpretation of it but might be how he keeps on blaming his friends or a foreseeing in t3 on how he keeps falling into the same traps (his friend group-amanes ideals)

  • @RinnenenMw4h
    @RinnenenMw4h Před 4 měsíci +36

    honestly i feel like if we vote kotoko guilty she MIGHT ransack the whole prison 💀💀

  • @spoiled_lacrimosa
    @spoiled_lacrimosa Před 5 měsíci +68

    i'd also add that Es's chess piece, aka the scale, looks like an unloaded crossbow. this could further symbolize that kotoko sees justice as a weapon that Es is incapable of correctly using

  • @anepeilia
    @anepeilia Před 5 měsíci +122

    As a french i'd like to precise some meanings behind the translations.
    While the word "pute" and "attardé" that are used by Kotoko about Yuno and Haruka (edit: Mikoto not Haruka) only have the single meaning of "whore" and "retarded", the word for Kazui has actually different ways to be understood:
    - On the strict meaning of it, the word "refoulé" means literally that the person is hiding something inside, something he doesn't want to face (this word is used in French as a common adjective with word like "emotion", "feelings", "truth", ...)
    - On the other side, if we take the word in its disrespectful meaning, "refoulé" is indeed used by itself to refer in a insulting way to someone who supposely wants to hide the fact that they're gay. It's straight up assuming something without any consideration for both the person and the ones that are indeed homosexual, and honestly I haven't heard anyone used it without saying something homophobic in addition... (maybe it can be used without being homophobic, but I really doubt so...)
    What I mean to say is that this word has various meaning or ways that can be translated, and its meaning can be different in french depending on the context (either saying that the person doesn't accept to face something in particular (and most of times that's how it's used), or straight up being homophobic and disrespectful by saying that the person is hiding the fact that they're gay). In conclusion, I don't think it really confirm anything but just saying that Kazui is hiding something that he's afraid to face, and I'm 100% sure that the meaning isn't a solid proof anyway, even if I really support the theory that Kazui is gay (that would we awesome and make him even more complex and interesting than he's already, at least in my opinion).
    (Sorry it was very long)

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +11

      It's alright!! It's really helpful and thanks for explaining everything in detail🥹🫶🫶 Thanks for your efforts ^^❤️

    • @M0n1x_
      @M0n1x_ Před 5 měsíci +7

      i'm taking this as haruka is now canonically autistic because the word used for haruka in french is a slur typically used against autistic people or those with down syndrome

    • @ryry5663
      @ryry5663 Před 5 měsíci +15

      @@M0n1x_Guys, I’m just here to say that the slur wasn’t against Haruka but Mikoto. It’s would technically still work on Haruka but she didn’t say it for him.

    • @SHSL_RM
      @SHSL_RM Před 5 měsíci +6

      It's possible that she could be using both meanings, saying how he doesn't want to face into or accept that he's gay. There's also how if she was willing to use such intense insults for both Mikoto and Yuno, I wouldn't put it pass her to do the same to Kazui given that he did protect Futa from her.

    • @anepeilia
      @anepeilia Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ryry5663 My bad I misread '^^

  • @SHSL_RM
    @SHSL_RM Před 5 měsíci +87

    At 6:14 you say how Mu is a queen, but I don’t think this the case as Kotoko later refers to her as “phony queen”. I also say this is because just below the crown we see a head shaped like a pawn. So with that, I think Mu's piece is actually a pawn with a massive crown in order to make her look like a queen, showing how she views herself as above everyone else but in reality is on the same level as that of Haruka, Yuno, and Amane. It could also represent the current relationship between Haruka and Mu, which Jackalope described as a possible “slave and queen” relationship.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +8

      I never noticed this!! I always thought the head of the pawn was just a ring that belonged to the queen chess piece,, :'D
      THANKS FOR EXPLAINING!!

  • @blackfrost8536
    @blackfrost8536 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Something i really like is how the use of colors is used to symbolize kotoko's morals and character
    In chess, it is a rule that the player using the white pieces will move first, and the player using the black pieces will always move second. The prisoners (Kotoko's targets in Milgram) chess pieces are white pieces with color highlights to each prisoner, and Kotoko's outfit herself is black. Possibly representing how Kotoko and her actions are far more reactive rather than proactive. She never moves first, she always waits for a move or waits for someone to tell her that they are deserving of punishment, she harmed three prisoners and once trial 2 started, has merely been waiting for Es' call, why? Its odd for someone who preaches about justice and punishing evildoers, and yet she does nothing to prevent crime or wrongdoings, she only acts when someone has been hurt already rather than preventing it in the first place
    And then theres her milgram assigned color purple. Purple is a combined color made up of blue and red, two colors we have seen many times in Harrow with her two outfits that show two very different approaches to her work. She is either very passive or sleuthing with Blue, or she is actively harming wrongdoers with Red. the color purple likely representing the werewolf motif you explained in the video, where Kotoko is at odds with herself, as every time she has caused harm to others she looks visibly distressed at the start of this mv and at the end, and her clutching onto Lucky, and the chess piece likely show her desperate desire to cling to something or anything to justify her actions because of the likelihood that she is just addicted to violence rather than the 'justice' it results in (considering her voice trailer in trial 1 was her saying how good it feels)
    Also in regards to what the stare Kotoko gave lucky right before the final chorus, personally i do think Kotoko harbors some negative emotions to her, or frustrations at least. In the article Kotoko was reading on her phone, the article states that news had spread like wildfire, and Kotoko had to drop out because of the negative association she was giving the school, all this because Lucky testified, tho likely was coerced or manipulated into speaking that only made Kotoko's situation harder, (remember Kotoko's trial 2 voice trailer has her screaming " From the begin I've never asked for your understanding! My actions, one by one, are bringing earth closer to peace. Useless Weaklings should just shut up and let me protect them! ")

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +27

    I have the impresion that some people are still being stuborn about Amane being conflicting/ difficult to judge for Kotoko because they are projecting their own morals on her.
    She literally stated that she is just another prisioner to her. Saving Lucky doesn't mean that she is a defender of all children rights or that she is really empathetic with victims of abuse.

  • @yukkikana
    @yukkikana Před 5 měsíci +22

    Hello, Guys, i want to add about werewolf. If you remember Harrow, her first MV, you see that she wearing a hat with "Jacques Roulet" written on it. Jacques Roulet is a story written by HP Lovecraft
    the creature Jacques Roulet, of Caude, who in 1598 was condemned to death as a daemoniac but afterward saved from the stake by the Paris parliament and shut in a madhouse. He had been found covered with blood and shreds of flesh in a wood, shortly after the killing and rending of a boy by a pair of wolves. One wolf was seen to lope away unhurt.

    • @PROUST_EFFECT
      @PROUST_EFFECT Před 4 měsíci +1

      Jacques Roulet is not a story written by Lovecraft, instead he's a character in one of his stories.

    • @yukkikana
      @yukkikana Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes, The title of the story is "The Shunned House" written by H.P Lovecraft.

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +62

    17:40 Kotoko's sudden change in the way she talked to Es made me felt uncomfortable. It felt like if she was making him feel vulnerable to manipulate him.

  • @itzfedra1197
    @itzfedra1197 Před 5 měsíci +51

    I'm SO glad you're gonna do the Haruka, Yuno and Fuuta analysis now that we'll be going to intermission. I thought you were gonna wait until their t3 songs released in like MONTHS FROM NOW. I'm so happy I'll have something to watch until t3 😭😭

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +9

      We gotta keep usself entertained somehow😭😭👍

  • @emannes0
    @emannes0 Před 5 měsíci +16

    Kotoko and John parallell eachother alot when you think about it.
    - Kokoto's original motive was to save weaklings from preadators?, while john's was to protect mikoto from outside stressors
    -Kotoko was forgiven, and contimued on with her behavior
    - john (well mikoto tecnically) was unforgiven and owned up and apologize

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +17

    I have been thinking a lot about the list at the end lately. The adjectives she uses are more related to their personalities than their crimes and that bugs me.
    She is judging traits of them that she despise and finds annoying, looking more like a personal hatred than a desire for justice.
    For example, "001 Parasite" refers to Haruka's depedent nature instead of his "I can kill what is weaker than me" philosophy. There's also the "002 Slut", which makes reference to Juno's sexual life but not to the abortions.

  • @genericyoutubecommentchann7418
    @genericyoutubecommentchann7418 Před 5 měsíci +54

    I made a comment about YONAH’s possible meaning on another video, so I’ll repost it here.
    Yonah is another spelling for Jonah, who is the main character in the Book of Jonah in the Old Testament. In it, God instructed him to warn the city of Nineveh that they would be destroyed for their wickedness. At the end of the book, Jonah delivered the prophecy of destruction to Nineveh as instructed by God, but the people of Nineveh repented and gave up their wicked ways, and God was merciful and spared the city. Jonah was displeased with God for this and waited in defiance for God to fulfill his original prophecy and destroy the city.
    Kotoko is like Jonah in this situation, as in her eyes, she did just as Es wished, and yet Es chose to have pity on the prisoners and not go through with the punishment she wanted for the others.

    • @TheMageOfVoid
      @TheMageOfVoid Před 2 měsíci

      Also, since I haven't seen it written anywhere, Yonah means 'Dove' in Hebrew, a symbol of peace ironically.

  • @freilotte
    @freilotte Před 5 měsíci +36

    i think that kotoko's crime was the girl's death after she left her. Someone on tumblr pinpointed that on one official art where prisoners sit at the opposite sides of table based on whatever their crime was direct or indirect, kotoko was sitting on the indirect side 🤔(if i can find the post i'll link it)

    • @yourhighnessshanzay
      @yourhighnessshanzay Před 5 měsíci +6

      I saw a counter-theory to that theory that if you identify the table pattern then the indirect murder spot is given to midokoto

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +2

      OH I NEED TO SEE THIS

    • @genericyoutubecommentchann7418
      @genericyoutubecommentchann7418 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@yourhighnessshanzayI think that could still fit. My personal theory as to why Mikoto is considered a prisoner is because he intentionally took on more work and stressed himself out despite knowing it was too much for him. So by continuing to do it and make John front, he was indirectly responsible for the people’s deaths. I provided my support for this in a comment on the Mikoto theory video.

    • @batrex_
      @batrex_ Před 5 měsíci +4

      It's on first anniversary art
      Also there's clear pattern between indirect and direct murder in each pairing.
      Haruka-direct Yuno-indirect
      Fuuta-indirect Muu-direct
      Shidou-direct Mahiru-indirect
      Kazui-indirect Amane-direct
      So by this pattern
      Mikoto is direct murder and Kotoko is indirect.
      It's pretty much everything but confirmed 😭

    • @yourhighnessshanzay
      @yourhighnessshanzay Před 5 měsíci

      @@batrex_ UNLESS
      kazui - indirect, amane - direct
      redkoto - direct, mikoto - indirect
      greenkoto - indirect, kotoko - direct

  • @Eishi_poulpy
    @Eishi_poulpy Před 5 měsíci +9

    as a french, I can tell that reading the fr sub on the official mv really had me shook, like SHE REALLY CALLED MIKOTO A RETARDED AND THE WORDS THAT SHE USES ARE TRULY VIOLENTS HHELP 💀💀⁉
    naaah she totally deserves her guilty like wth is wrong with her

  • @Hibiscuitsy
    @Hibiscuitsy Před 5 měsíci +13

    im not sure if anyone has added this, but the name in Kotoko’s hat (Jacques Roulet) is actually referencing the case of Jacques Roulet, a man who was persecuted for lycanthropy/murdering someone as a werewolf. Please check out the story on it, theres more details that I think has some ties to kotoko!
    another small thing ill add is that I also think mappi’s chess piece resembles an anchor as well, and how her love “weighs” people down (her bf)
    tysm for this vid, this is very well made :3c

  • @ForgettablePerson
    @ForgettablePerson Před 5 měsíci +13

    The name of the CD drama JONAH is a reference to a bible story that can be found online since i forgot about it
    Also the color of the chess pieces might be referring to the fact that in chess there are white vs black and gray is the color between white and black meaning she’s fighting for herself and her believes

  • @grimkuji
    @grimkuji Před 5 měsíci +14

    The way I'm voting is not only based on their crime but their doings in MILGRAM as well. I voted Kotoko as Not Forgiven because it seems like she's quickly, possibly, spiraling out of her own control and I think some restraints could possibly help her gain her own "good" control back. I do forgive her crime, but I also want to think about the possible after effects of voting a prisoner Forgiven/Not Forgiven.

  • @megarotom1590
    @megarotom1590 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I think it’s fascinating that most the prisoners video 2 is to help further elaborate their crime… but Kotoko’s is about her actions in milgram itself

  • @dadsfatherdads
    @dadsfatherdads Před 4 měsíci +5

    I have not finished video yet, but in the same way animals in Amane music videos did not represent real animal but rather represented people were who not in the cult
    Girl in Kotoko’s music video “Lucky” is meant to represent funnily enough “Kotoko Nation” Kotoko’s fans the reasons they followed her then become scared of her, not just the girl herself
    It sounds blurry at first but I could talk about it for hours

  • @Eskun8998
    @Eskun8998 Před 5 měsíci +12

    OMGGGG I was always confused by the facial expressions during the scene when kotoko abandons lucky, but your explanation makes so much sense!!! it actual makes me sad for kotoko 😢 I also think the theory about her waiting for lucky to get hurt is probably true, her outfit change isn’t there just for effects and what not…so that’s kinda screwed up kotoko gurlie 😭 Still I forgive her crime buuuuut what she’s doing in milgram is NAHH 💀

  • @Lisab-nc2mm
    @Lisab-nc2mm Před 5 měsíci +13

    Isn’t mu’s piece a pawn? Queens don’t have a round portion in the middle like mu does and if you view the round part as a head it looks like a pawn attached the crown of a queen onto it’s head to look like a queen. Other than that, I loved this theory video and I’m looking forward to the haruka, yuno and futa ones. Good luck on the exams!!!

    • @iciarsoto8860
      @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Her being a pawn with a crown really fits the idea of her being a "fake queen"

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +3

      OHHH

  • @mudible
    @mudible Před 5 měsíci +4

    15:07 I was in AP art and spent WAY too much time analyzing colorism and color theory so here's my take on the matter, yellow is often associated with light, perhaps the "yellow fog" is quite literally the truth coming to light, whether to kotoko herself realizing her own motivations, or the public eye.
    I could also think that maybe the fog could also be a cautionary sense of hers, perhaps signaling danger of some kind: yellow is often associated with these themes
    OR maybe it has something to do with how the murders have affected her psychology in one way or another, yellow can indicate egotism and madness so maybe her selfishness could be coming to fruition in the name of "pursuing justice."

  • @Linc-hm8zkidjd
    @Linc-hm8zkidjd Před 5 měsíci +6

    15:09 personally i think they just made it yellow to indicate that the fog its toxic

  • @ahuman8260
    @ahuman8260 Před 5 měsíci +2

    My take on this trail is just that Kotoko is just trying to cope with self-hatred about smt related to injustice. Likely, she seems fond of the idea of justice before she got to uni so when withinessing/hearing someone (especially somebody she is close to) getting attacked, abused,... by bad guys who can get away thanks to power like the kidnapper may have crushed her core belives and led her to try punishing due to feeling gulity for not helping. She have to collect evidence to go against him so she do need to wait. The expression Kotoko give after saving Lucky is her gulit for not helping sooner or just her distaste to see someone relying on her when she thinks she isn't doing enough yet.
    In the part where Kotoko walks pass Lucky, I do kind of think she is angry at Lucky for maybe going to weak or not doing much in the case like bringing up evidences (she mentioned this in the VD about weaklings not trying to fight for justice), making the case got closed. At this time we do see her beliefs going more toxic as by the look of Lucky and the lights (most likely refers to the social morals) and just demanding for more criminal to punish then to the gas scene. It is possible that she feel like she couldn't help the weaklings fight off individuals like the kidnapper, hence her carving for more chances to prove her "justice", which is just her coping with the fact she feels worthless, tho she trying to fight the idea off like in the gas scene. That's why she looks kind of terrified at the end, as she knows all of this is bad and just trying to hold herself together like in the end of the VD where she talks about actions, or yes, she end ups losing Lucky due to her actions.
    That all my rambling about it
    Good luck on your exams, I've just finished one and have a few more to go.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you!! I hope you will pass yours🫶🫶😭

  • @Valthetransfem
    @Valthetransfem Před 5 měsíci +5

    I’m Ngl I took the voice drama in a way different way. To me with the build up it seems more like she was manipulating es, taking advantage of his distress to make him let her keep doing what she does. The way she continues despite es saying no also just rubs me the wrong way. I think kotoko has been driven mad after the first trial and affirmed in her beliefs causing her to get bolder which is why she was so quick to try and take advantage of es being so vulnerable

    • @Valthetransfem
      @Valthetransfem Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think her whole deal is to be milgrams complete opposite. Where as milgram follows justice in a more liberal sense kotokos justice is final and without thought “a murderer is a murderer and should be punished” she shuts down any room for argument and to keep her fragile world view she refuses to consider any of the prisoners as anything but kilelrs

    • @iciarsoto8860
      @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci

      I feel in a similar way about the voicedrama

    • @maydaymayday4225
      @maydaymayday4225 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ValthetransfemKotoko will be the worst prisoner guard if she somehow becomes the next Es.
      Shes legit gonna KILL all the prisoners before their trials gonna start and gets purged at the results of her prison.

  • @thiefpotato2759
    @thiefpotato2759 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Btw for your question 4, she has denied being a victim. She said it in her last questionaire and she responded with, "you dont have to be a victim to value justice" or something similar.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Question 18 of her Interrogation the question was: "Have you ever been bullied?" And her answer was "No. Are people with such pasts the only ones who're allowed to hate evil?" She said no to ever being a victim of bullying. There's still a possibility that she or someone else close to her got hurt. I don't remember if she answered a similar question in the voice drama but that's what I found. ^^

  • @hopeyouhave666
    @hopeyouhave666 Před 5 měsíci +2

    20:20 probally not unless milgram is public to the outside world but the system is too different and that table probally wont be used until the 3rd trial where the prisoner that got a final verdict of guilty be purged by jackalope (if you read it yk what i mean)

    • @hopeyouhave666
      @hopeyouhave666 Před 5 měsíci

      and also it depends how far back the earliest millgram we know is , if i have to guess its probally 1980s to 1990

  • @nomncla
    @nomncla Před 5 měsíci +4

    8:41 imo i wouldn't say kazui was unaffected by milgram, more like it's not showing up on the outside. all three pieces are surrounded by debris by this scene and the scene beforehand (except for amane) (surprisingly also, mahiru's side of the table before kazui's has its own scattered parts), which probably represented the deterioration of those three's mentals. the state of the pieces is what i interpreted as how that deterioration manifested itself: the head on mikoto's piece + one of the three layers disconnected from the rest of the body (and basically gone by the looks of it) like how john says that mikoto is "trying to disappear," the body on amane's piece disconnected and gone as well w/ only the head left like she's fully become her ideology/beliefs, and kazui's piece being tipped over like he's lost his stability. his piece is still whole, but there is still debris around it, like that deterioration exists but isn't showing itself physically

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks for mentioning it!! I didn't notice it and if I remember correctlyJackalope also mentioned in the T2 Announcement Video (forgot what it was called) that Kazui also went through changes but he himself didn't notice it either (?) Not sure what's going to happen and what it means but very excited ^^ (I have my tissues ready.)

  • @randomsnapperson8008
    @randomsnapperson8008 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Actually, in the Cat French subtitles, Kazui uses the same slur that Ktk does.

  • @Artic_corrin
    @Artic_corrin Před 5 měsíci +4

    I might be way off with this but I honestly thought kotoko killed more than 2 people. In both Harrow and Deep Cover there’s a board with I think possible targets she wants to punish. In Harrow we see the board with not many people crossed out and one person circled (I think it’s Kaneshiro) but near the end of Deep Cover the whole board is scribbled out in black meaning she’s punish all the criminals in her town. I might be wrong entirely because that board could also include things like informants and general news but just a thought I had

  • @choisok
    @choisok Před 5 měsíci +6

    KOTOKO-ING TIME ‼️‼️ I CANT BELIEVE TRIAL 2 IS OVER?!?!?

  • @thiefpotato2759
    @thiefpotato2759 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Something I wanna see you cover is the connections between each prisoner.
    For example, Muu and Futa are both bullies who had their power blow up in their face. One is a traditional and one is a cyber bully. There is Amane and Kazui, who are opposites. One is dealing with the pressures of society and the other is dealing with a cult isolating her from society.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 3 měsíci +1

      OH YEAH I WOULD LOVE TALKING ABOUT IT!!! Not sure if I would include it in the Undercover Analysis I'm planning or make it it's own. Maybe do both if I realise later that I forgot smth or the comments adding amazing stuff ^^ Organs
      Mappi: Giving (too much) -> Toxic Love
      *Society/Promises*
      Kazui: Pressures of Society/Breaking a Promise
      Amane: Isolation from Society/Keeping a Promise
      *Protection*
      Mikoto: Defensive
      Kotoko: Offensive
      I think I also wrote something else about 0910?? Can't find it 🥲

  • @meteor504
    @meteor504 Před 5 měsíci +10

    i think fuutas is supposed to be a bishop? it would make sense, fuuta is associated with the letter b a lot!
    bring it on, braze you, backdraft, baptism of fire, and his blood type is b as well.
    ALSO religious theming with fuuta! (baptism of fire, he says something about offering penance in backdraft)
    the religious theming is likely foreshadowing, based on the timeline convos it seems amane is converting fuuta to her cult (we see her attempt but don't see if she fails or not on fuutas birthday [2023], then in later conversations fuuta uses "we" to refer to himself and mentions salvation a lot, muu points out how hes been saying strange things)
    this isn't saying that i disagree with the sword analogy though, it could easily be trying to resemble both
    also muus chess piece is a pawn with the crown of a queen piece :D

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks for your insight!! I think you're completely right ^^ The b association is crazy, I never noticed how often it appears!! And yeah the religious theme.. I'm rlly interested what's going to happen in T3 ^^
      Maybe his piece is a merge of a sword and the Bishop :000

  • @ihavenoideawhatimdoing-dz3ho
    @ihavenoideawhatimdoing-dz3ho Před 5 měsíci +3

    10:34 OMG THANK YOU FOR MENTIONNING THIS everyone is angry abt kotoko slutshaming yuno but in the frech translation shes also ableist and "refoulé" can be pretty homophobic too

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +4

    9:10 I think the one on the left is Kotoko judging Es for changing opinions.

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I was thinking about this and I agree. We are voting, and true we keep changing our verdicts after every trial.. ^^;;

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +15

    13:00 Even if it has "sense", the idea of Kotoko letting him hurt Lucky first to get evidence it sounds really disturbing.
    It sums to the pile of things that make her look really bad.

  • @wafflearea868
    @wafflearea868 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I'd like to add this because I'm still not sure if its intentional or not. But in the song, Kotoko starts the Guilty prisoner's descriptions with "So ridiculous, isn't it ridiculous?" EXCEPT for Amane. At the start I wondered if it was just because of the structure of the song, but I wonder if it's also because out of all the prisoners, Amane has the most similarity to Lucky.
    Cuz if your theory about Kotoko listening in is true (and it would be interesting if thats so the case), then wouldn't she have also pieced together that Amane is a victim of abuse? However, unlike Lucky, Amane wasn't a "perfect" victim and ended up retaliating on her abuser and killing them. So, Kotoko can't say that her situation is 'ridiculous' because looking at it, Amane's crime could be justified. However, Kotoko's so far gone in her idealogy that she still thinks that Amane should be punished of her crime regardless.
    Looking at the percentage of the votes rn Kotoko will most likely be guilty so I'm a bit curious on how Amane will retaliate with that or if she'll bother at all.

  • @mikomappi
    @mikomappi Před 3 měsíci +1

    19:56 , it looks like an alleyway to me

  • @LazyNicoSucks2
    @LazyNicoSucks2 Před 5 měsíci +3

    As someone who just hated kotoko by her acts yet forgave her crime (she still guilty) I must say this video analysis did change my persective of kotoko someway I NEED TO SEE KOTOKO T3 AAAA 🔥🔥

  • @justdemi2585
    @justdemi2585 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Honestly, sometimes I wonder what would've happened if Fuuta got voted innocent in T1 and Kotoko got voted guilty also in T1
    Maybe Fuuta would have her "role", as in punishing the guilty prisoners in some way (not necesarily physically like Kotoko tho, and I also doubt he's use an excuse like "Being Es' fang", maybe he'd punish inno prisoners as well bc in his eyes they're all nothing but murderers, and as you said, he doesn't look at the other side of the story)
    Maybe his T2 song would've had "UNDER" repeated instead of Kotoko's but idk
    I just really like 0310 parrallels lmao

    • @justdemi2585
      @justdemi2585 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Also the fact they're the only Milgram prisoners of the exact same age would maybe kinda add to this? Idk

  • @danamilgram
    @danamilgram Před 5 měsíci +2

    thank you for the analysis!

  • @zen000o_
    @zen000o_ Před 5 měsíci +2

    YAAAA ITS HERE!!!

  • @marcelostalker
    @marcelostalker Před 4 měsíci +1

    Part of the rules is that we can vote the way we want for any reason we want, so do just that. I try to vote asking myself two questions, though I do make use of the loose rules to adjust it case by case (I'm a hypocrite, there, spared anyone the trouble): "Have they been punished enough?" and "will they kill again if they are released into the world?". In Kotoko's case the only confirmed murder is completely fair, so no need to think about punishing her, but the "will murder again" is the problem imo. She WILL. I can't say if she really cares for justice or not, I hope she does, but what I am convinced is that she uses justice as an excuse, a rationalization of what she does, her true reason is the beast inside looking for blood. If we, as judges, leave her beast unchained, she will keep seeking blood for her beast, to the point she will eventually feed someone innocent to it. I like her, but don't think we can trust her, she's way too dangerous to be free.

  • @AkumuIsSleepy
    @AkumuIsSleepy Před 5 měsíci +3

    Honestly I don't think she used Lucky, but my theory doesn't exactly align with yours. I hypothesis that Kotoko has some kind of hero obsession where she needs to be the one making the decisions and being the good guy, I think it's a decently common idea at this point, but personally I think this whole obsession started with Lucky's case. Like, she got a taste for heroism when she killed Kaneshiro (I think that's his name? Can't remember) and started chasing it ever since. Picture this:
    She see's Kaneshiro take Lucky, follows him, get's in a scuffle where she accidentally kills him and then gets called a hero by tons of people online and Lucky. After that, I suspect she made some kind of vigilante group (bc of the first mv with the pack of wolves) and sought after petty criminals, punishing them and slowly taking it further each time as she loses herself in power. During this time, more people drop out of the group and she becomes more distant with everyone, including Lucky, as she sees herself above them. A judge in a courtroom, a god among men, SHE makes the choice on who is right or wrong and she doesn't want people to pull her down, nor does she want to drag anyone with her. After that, I infer that everyone leaves the group, she ends up taking the last criminal alone (the one that she gets sent to milgram for) and she goes too far, brutally murdering them out of rage.
    That's just my take on it though :)

  • @05noodles05
    @05noodles05 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Omg I’m so excited to see the analysis for the first 3 prisoners!! I love listening to your theories!!

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yay thank youuuu🥳🥳🫶🫶

  • @rainoftime37
    @rainoftime37 Před 5 měsíci +3

    wake up new napkin milgram analysis dropped...
    love your videos!! good luck on ur exams, i always look forward to seeing your analysis videos so im very excited to see what you come up with for haruka, yuno, and fuuta! :]

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      THANK YOUU😭😭😭❤️🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶

  • @Lulu-iv7fr
    @Lulu-iv7fr Před 5 měsíci +3

    This analysis is really good! Good luck on your exams
    Also side note but when Haruka told us his age he said that he is 17 not 16

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      THANKS!! 🫶🫶
      OH I guess I got it mixed up with smth else😭 Thanks for pointing it out!!🫶

  • @wonder-pixels
    @wonder-pixels Před 5 měsíci +5

    The meme at the end was priceless. Good luck on your exam! :)

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks the memes always keep me sane hahahaha AND THANK YOUUU!!!

  • @madalenafreitas4791
    @madalenafreitas4791 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Can't wait to see more milgram theory analysis😁 Good luck on your exams

  • @jejekuroe
    @jejekuroe Před 5 měsíci +2

    11:17 I actually prefer Lucky over the other name I'm not gonna lie

  • @user-un7tf7fh4b
    @user-un7tf7fh4b Před 5 měsíci +4

    I didn't even know about the novels😮. And i am so happy to see your video, it's always cool to see somebody do something with happiness and passion( i am french do i don't know if"passion" is the right word to use)
    You clearly deserve your subscribers ❤❤❤

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      THANKS FOR ENJOYING IT! :🫶😭
      Yeah, the novels aren't rlly known in the fandom I think. Probably because people rarely talk about it and there is no official English translation😕 I wish it gets released internationally because I would love talking about it ^^ and thank you again🥹❤️

  • @Muismshru2307
    @Muismshru2307 Před 5 měsíci +3

    HII I'd like to say something at 12:42 , the perspective in Harrow and Deep cover are actually both from Lucky herself ^^ the scene just got inverted/flipped in Deep cover :33 Goodluck on your exams !!

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 3 měsíci

      OH I SEE
      And thank you so much!!! :DDD🫶🫶
      (I failed them all LMAOOOO)

  • @hanniesung3595
    @hanniesung3595 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Omg yes please voice your earlier videos!!!

  • @shortie_cake
    @shortie_cake Před 5 měsíci +3

    About the voice drama
    Okay so update if you saw my comment about the explanation of the drama i want to explain it more
    So think of Yonah as kotoko es as god and the people of nineveh are the other prisoners if you want to you can read the whole story at the end of the comment
    So i just wanted to add that yonah didnt believe in second chances the people of nineveh raped stole from one another etc god wanted to give them a second chance but yonah didnt believe that he believed they deserve to be punished so yeah if you want to know more about the story keep reading
    Im sorry but i just noticed that her voice drama is called Yonah and i wanted to explain (hopefully im right and it's the same yonah with the jewish bibble) so yonah was a prophet who was send (by god) to convent the people of nineveh to Judaism but he tried to run away from god (by moving to another city with a boat) which caused a big fish to swallow him and he stayed there for 3 days and 3 nights and thats when he realized he cant escape god (i dont know where im getting with this but maybe kotoko feels like she was chosen by god?) Feel free to tell me your thoughts

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      OHH THANKS FOR EXPLAINING IT!! Everytime I looked up Yonah, I only found the meaning of the Hebrew name ^^;
      You explained it really well! But yeah, I'm not sure what the end could mean as well? Maybe the fish represents justice, or the Verdict Es is going to give Kotoko and she is getting swallowed by it.. IDK 😭

    • @shortie_cake
      @shortie_cake Před 5 měsíci

      @@kindnapkin Ty!!
      i hope that the fish will represent the better outcome and that kotoko will realise its okay to fight for justice but because they're in prison and she also sinned like the other prisoners her justice might be wrong and she needs to listen/ let Es decide

  • @ryry5663
    @ryry5663 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Maybe all along she was the one trying to rely on someone…
    Anyways good luck on your exams you can do it !!! I believe in you !!!

  • @fu9727
    @fu9727 Před 5 měsíci +2

    YAY 🎉NEW THEORY DROPPED ‼️‼️‼️ I LOVE THIS SM

  • @GANIMEDESINSANOAALFA
    @GANIMEDESINSANOAALFA Před 5 měsíci +2

    Its kotokotime
    (Gl with ur exams i dont enter school until march)

  • @Alys_Kytton
    @Alys_Kytton Před 4 měsíci +2

    Lucky and Es parallel I noticed;
    Their eye shape is HEAVILY similar. Perhaps kotoko sees lucky in Es and is inadvertadly repeating the past?

  • @sarablais2744
    @sarablais2744 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Firstly, i really love all your theories!
    Secondly, i have a few points to add on the french translation part :D
    The slurs arnt inappropriate to say, thats just how we talk/insult. For anglophone it can sound pretty harsh but it doesnt have the same impact/intensity in french.
    For Kazui, "refoulé" does not point to him being gay. Its just means that he is repressing himself/his emotions and stuff. Ofc u cant see it as being in the closet type of repressing but not necessarly. Imo it doesnt confirm/support the gay theory at all (even i wish it would 🥲)
    Then for "attardé", it is kinda harsh yeah but i feel like its not that bad of a word cus we use it fairly often so im maybe desensitized to it idk. My point is there are way more harsher words/slurs so attardé isnt that bad lol. And i know its not an excuse but french people are verrrrry sarcastic so we use harsh words without meaning it to be harsh/derogatory
    And finally, "Pute" is derogatory, the most violent one out of the other two above. But the english translation uses "slut" which basically have the exact same meaning. And we dont have a 'softer' word for slut in french, apart from prostituée (prostitute), and since the english translation didnt use it either they went for pute i guess.

  • @the_clover_star
    @the_clover_star Před 5 měsíci +2

    ITS HEREEEEEEEE

  • @Snow-flakes20
    @Snow-flakes20 Před 5 měsíci +4

    OMG 🔥🔥🔥THEORY (and about the French translations, as someone who speaks French they’re correct, well Yuno’s actually means prostitute/whore but still, and Haruka’s did get changed later but nobody else’s that I know of) OH AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR EXAMS!!

  • @TheMageOfVoid
    @TheMageOfVoid Před 2 měsíci

    1. Kotoko explicitly says in the 1st interrogation that she was listening in on the others' (that's how she knew Es was being attacked by John, she was there watching), I don't think it was mentioned whether or not she saw the MVs though.
    2. Mahiru's piece also looks like an anchor to me, maybe symbolizing her dragging her partner down with her?
    3. Yonah means 'dove' in Hebrew, ironically symbolizing peace.

  • @muifuku
    @muifuku Před 3 dny

    Es keys opens the prisoners cell, maybe it means lack of power or how Kotoko actually has no power over prisoners!

  • @mxlgram
    @mxlgram Před 5 měsíci +2

    THIS THEORY IS ONE OF THE BEST NANSHTNKTKEOAOSKWM THANK YOUUUU

  • @latteemoji4570
    @latteemoji4570 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I feel like Futa and Amane will take kotoko's role in the 3rd trial...

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Might be really possible..
      Everyone might let them do it because they feel bad for them. Aaaa why does everyone has to suffer so much 😭😭

  • @vocaloidutopia
    @vocaloidutopia Před 5 měsíci +5

    kotko video dropped….
    i wonder what will happen after kotoko’s t2 verdict and how she will act.,,

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'm actually worried if smth is going to happen to her. I get it if everyone else wants to take revenge, but like pls I hope not;;;;;
      Also I think I already told you this or maybe it was someone else BUT I LOVE THE KAGEPRO PFP 🥹🫶🫶🫶

    • @vocaloidutopia
      @vocaloidutopia Před 5 měsíci

      @@kindnapkin I MIGHT BE THE SAME PERSON HAHA

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I hope she survives and also KAGEROU PFP!!!

    • @vocaloidutopia
      @vocaloidutopia Před 5 měsíci

      @@megarotom1590 AHH

  • @billy4lifeify
    @billy4lifeify Před 4 měsíci +1

    was waiting for this and forgot to watch this, hhhh

  • @rinrinko
    @rinrinko Před 5 měsíci +3

    kototko🔥🔥theory

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +3

      KOTOKOTOOO MY WIFEEE🔥🔥

  • @SilliestcritterEVER
    @SilliestcritterEVER Před měsícem

    FRENCH KOTOKO IS SO WILD 😭😭😭

  • @zypheox
    @zypheox Před 4 měsíci +3

    English really isn't your first language?! You're so fluent, I'm so shocked lol

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 3 měsíci +1

      It might sound fluent because of the robot text-to-speech voice I'm using HAHAHAHA
      Very recommendable👍👀

  • @megarotom1590
    @megarotom1590 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I think perhaps what happened to Kotoko is at first she just wanted to protect the weak from the strong but then after she got screwed by the person she saving withdrawing the testimony, she saw it as a betrayal which crumbled the foundation of protecting the weak so to keep herself mentally afloat she became extremist in defeating evil as an alternative way to justify her murder

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I am really excited to hear your opinion on the three first characters

  • @iwishiwasfaster
    @iwishiwasfaster Před 5 měsíci +2

    i hhave a mid termm this week end. good luck

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci +1

      good luck to you as well😔😔🫶🫶

  • @chelliepepper825
    @chelliepepper825 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Good luck on your exams

  • @ShrugMoji
    @ShrugMoji Před 5 měsíci +2

    For Lucky I believe got kidnapped at the same timein both MV's (hope that makes sense) So you see Kotoko's perspective about Lucky and the kidnapper, also I think Kotoko knocked out the kidnapper, but during her werewolf phase she saw ;ucky as (GUILTY) for being easily kidnapped so she attacked her until she died. Although this may be a dark route I don't think Milgram would shy away from this kind of topic: Kotoko feeling guilty of killing someone as innocent as Lucky, I've been looking around but I haven't heard anyone else express this theory, I may be wrong though

    • @ShrugMoji
      @ShrugMoji Před 5 měsíci

      Also I have a theory that the Milgram character are all linked in some way, like the kidnapper could be related to Futa, Futa's brother's death may lead to Futa's crimes

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      WAIT FUUTA HAS A BROTHER?? I THOUGHT A SISTER
      DID I MISS SMTH😦😦😭

    • @ShrugMoji
      @ShrugMoji Před 5 měsíci

      @@kindnapkin sorry it was a theory

  • @InK_DeD
    @InK_DeD Před 5 měsíci +4

    I have a feeling she killed more then two people, cause of how many posters there on the wall, and I can’t read them yet, but who she killed, their crossed out, making them look like they died. But I know my theory doesn’t hold much water- so yeah-

    • @iciarsoto8860
      @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Maybe they were people she had beaten up but not killed

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah I think those were just people she had beaten up!! And the crossed out & ripped up ones in deep cover show Kotoko's mental state and her not being able to achieve more justice or else more deads would be on the news ^^

  • @iciarsoto8860
    @iciarsoto8860 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I really like your analysis but I don't think Kotoko cared for the girl in a personal level. I believe she was just a victim, something to protect and reason to punish.
    So when she was already saved, she became distant to make sure she doesn't interfere with her "justice".

  • @Cloud_no.42
    @Cloud_no.42 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Kotoko is turning to into an alpha
    You guys just don’t know

  • @ValeriaXSandra
    @ValeriaXSandra Před 5 měsíci +1

    Kotoko is tragic and despicable at the same time.
    Her uniform and werewolf transformation are nazi allegories. Just like Nazis, she views her actions as "betterment", when in reality she is despicable.
    Also, that would explain the derogatory language. Guess what who was first on the death list? Gay and mentally ill people. That also gives yellow GAS very, very dark implications.
    Also, how is she comforting ES? No. Her voice gets quieter, whispery almost sultry. She grabs onto them, and uses their moment of weakness, nearly ASSAULTING him. So I think she was a victim, and now is mirroring her abuser.
    So here is my theory. She was abused, barely survived, dead set on revenge, waits for Lucky to get hurt, and then adopts "kill for betterment" mentality.

  • @kagomagica
    @kagomagica Před 3 měsíci

    To be fair...for the french translations, if she's characterized that way (she does call Yuno a slut so thats not out of the picture) it makes sense for it to be bigoted and derogatory. If you changed it, it'd change how Kotoko feels on the matter. She's being shown as the obvious bad guy in the situation, so the usage of the slurs (in translation) isn't wrong to do. If a character is homophobic, they should be characterized as such.

  • @stranger_danger0714
    @stranger_danger0714 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I have this random theory that Kotoko deep down knew she was going to be a horrible influence for lucky so she distanced herself but it’s probably wrong 🥲

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      It might be possible!!

    • @kindnapkin
      @kindnapkin  Před 5 měsíci

      But it would make me REALLY sad🥲
      It isn't Milgram if you don't cry about at least something