Why YOU Should Savage Raid In FFXIV Now!
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Doing savage unlocked a new super power in me. Now I see mechanics in EX and normal modes in slow-motion, it's epic.
After learning P1 and 2 of TOP i ascended to a whole new Dimension no joke. Highly recommend.
You're a real one for this
After clearing an ultimate like TOP it gets even slower
I wish this was me with ffxiv. The only game i have felt like that is when finishing the hardest side levels i celeste. Every game i played after felt slow motion for a while 😂
The mechanic becomes slower?
No...
I have become faster!
~Every protagonist that undergoes harsh training
I like savage content and would like to do more of it. Unfortunately I've had a lot of bad experiences with the community which has really discouraged me from finishing the tier. I ended up in a static that wasn't a good fit for me, and I should have left earlier than I did but only stayed so I could get weekly loot, and I was also in a situation where someone posted my FFlogs to a discord server without my permission and everyone just used that as an opportunity to insult me instead of actually helping me to play better (none of the people in said discord actually raided with me btw), and the combination of all of that makes me just not want to involve myself in this community. Maybe someday I'll find the right people but I feel like I've just had really bad luck.
Report the person that post the logs, is against the rules.
@@kanedafx1 sadly unless they do it in-game there isn't much I can do. Although in the time since I posted the message I've found a much better static and I've even started progging ultimates so I'm in a better place.
@@truesoprano2152 Good for you, no let no one bully you, we play for fun.
I raided back in the day in WoW and it's just stress I don't need now in my 40's honestly. That said: Azurite is 100% on point with that feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction. The first time Gnomes Will Eat You cleared Razorgore the Untamed was an AMAZING moment I remember decades later. It's genuinely worth at least a try.
I feel this as I too am middle aged. A friend has been trying to get me to go back to play for 5 yrs now and still I just feel eh about it. It was a decent feeling beating all the new content and all but was I really destressing and having fun by doing all that? I really don't know if it will hit the same anymore.
Savage Raid is nice, especially for the PF memes, they always come back
Just like I always come back for you owo
@@AzuriteTV uwu
I’ve played in both statics and party finder but for some reason my performance in party finder is much more better and consistent compared to how I play in statics
Everyone's experience is different, I've done casual, mid midcore, hardcore, world prog and Party Finder and let me say that Hardcore and World Prog definitely are more consistent then PFers but PFers ars seemingly more consistent then Casual and Midcore groups, at least in my personal experience.
As someone who is more casual, I'd like to add that doing savage with Echo is also a good start for someone with little to no experience. Mechanics are still relevant but you have more leeway for mistakes and dps/heal checks aren't that strict. That's how I first tried doing Eden Savage and I had a great time!
But yes! Doing it while current (even with echo) give a more meaningful experience. You miss out so much doing it unsnyc the following expansion. I'm both glad and saddened that E8S light rampart is skippable now.
Why do some people do it without echo? I’ve never understood if something is easier and you get the same reward why not just do the easier haha. I understand unsync but echo not so much
Hit lv 90 1.5 week into this tier (got crafted gears, food, and pots funneled by a very supportive friend) and just full PF cleared the entire tier yesterday! It was honestly a blast and insanely satisfying (my friends heard me nearly crying when Pallas Athena died after 3 truly harrowing days wading through trap PF parties) but I definitely am glad to be done progging after dealing with some truly...unique...individuals...
I'd like to look for a good static eventually, but opted for PF just to see if I could do it. Knowing I could clear in PF by myself (in a reasonable time frame) just gives me comfort xD The savage fight definitely opened my eye to the game, there really nothing that beats watching your own consistency skyrocket from being barely able read the mechanics to dancing through them while flying through full burst rotations with no mistake.
Been watching your video since I started playing half a year ago, and you definitely helped a lot with the good information and supportive message towards jumping into savage! Thank you!
(Now I can go back and get to 6.4, stopped right after 6.0 just to raid LMAOOO)
Dont forget thay clearing Savage will make it easier to pick up Limsa egirls. One of those Ultimate weapons and you will be drowning in Miqo fur or lizzar scales!
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I dont really have that kidn of feeling like when i beated Elden Ring, my PF savage experience is just like u learning for an exam, nothing more, kinda sad and unpleasant tbh
Very good and informative video like always!
I’ve been savage raiding on and off since Shadowbringers, and I love, love, love Pandaemonium Savage. P7S is actually my favorite, oddly enough- I enjoy the back half of the fight. It feels good to do right.
My motivation is… well, it’s the internal drive to *be better.* I want to get better for its own sake, and what better way to improve than to do so alongside seven other people, testing my mettle against some of the hardest content FFXIV has to offer?
I love the high-end content in this game as much as I love the lore, the glam, or the RP. You don’t have to be one or the other. Nothing’s locking you into one stereotype. Go forth and test yourself!
p7s? the fight that isn't actually a fight till the last 2 minutes of the fight? the fight that was annoying asfk in pf cause the fight was so braindead before the last 2 minutes every pull ud waste like 7 minutes till you hit the prog point and wipe? that p7s boring as fk fight?
@@slimfastsubaru2043 Like I said, the back half of the fight is fun to me. I didn’t PF it, though, so your experience may vary. Harvests and Purgation were very fun mechanics to me.
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I've cleared one Extreme raid on PF just to see what it is like but haven't made the jump to Savage or Ultimate. From what I've seen and heard the most difficult thing about raiding is finding the time and the right group. That seems impossible for me. I wish I could at least clear one Ultimate raid someday, just to say I did it and to know what it feels like to do it but at this point it seems really difficult to find the time and people that are willing to take this non-raider there.
i am the same way honestly and i also dont want to waste peoples time because i have no idea what im doing
Everyone starts somewhere though, and everyone wastes each others time... the point is to have fun with the game.
While progging TOP, I wasted my groups time on Phase 2 for an entire raid night, literally every wipe was on me... After Phase 2 though? I played flawlessly and my group wasn't upset with me, because besides that I performed extremely well... the point is, even an experienced raider like me wastes people's time, for an ENTIRE night, yet I can still clear the content so you can do it! It's just about starting... the start is always the most anxiety inducing part, but once you get over that hurdle, it gets better
I think every youtuber ever has a video like this. So I took the advice and tried, but what all of these videos don't tell you, is that you need quite a lot of time. EW tier one I had a midcore static, that did hardcore times on week 1 and 2. In order to then have good replacements. I only managed to do this because of lockdown and winter time where I was able to reliably fit the scedule into my week. It's the only tier I cleared and I didn't fell any accomplishment after the kill. Mainly because of the other 7 static members I was happy to never see 5 of them ever again. For the second tier, I had less time, so I joined a casual static. What I did not expect was them being so slow, that after 8 weeks, I noticed I couldn't complete the tier and thus asked them to look for an replacement. For the current tier, I had even less time to reliably be there for certain days, so I PF raided. And this takes way way way more time. I mean, I was a bit unlucky too, but for P9S I had to join so many many parties. And people failed so often on fissures and the soccer game, I had no more energy to go further. Plus work ramped up even more, so there was no time.
TLDR: You need copius amounts of time if you want to raid. Or your weekly schedule is so empty, that it's fine to join a static. Either way, say goodbye to real life friends wanting to come over or spontaneous barbecue parties or other activities. And for this tier I decided for myself, that I value my time and the friends more then gear, that will be outdated in 5 months, or the 500th glam piece/ 165th mount.
I’m very new to this game and I just got done doing a lot of extreme trials and I feel ready to try a raid. Where should I start and what ones good for beginners?
I’ve been back and forth about wanting to really wanting to try savage on the current tier, and I legitimately enjoy watching guides and understanding how the fights work, but I can hardly work up the courage to just dive in and try, especially as a console player where communication is a bit slower than usual. And even with now been playing for a year almost, it’s mostly due to being anxious and thinking it’d be a disaster even though I know it’s likely not and I’m just being overly worrying.
Mayhaps its just not in the cards for me yet or until I find a group I know I can trust, but I wouldn’t say it’s not for me, I have the patience for progressing and learning the dance. It’s just hard to adjust to entire new style of content that feels very out of my own control. Really it’s about taking that first step. Because I’ve seen these fights on release, and even if it takes weeks, that’s an accomplishment for sure.
Im so nervous giving it a shot being a dark knight.. i really dont wanna disappoint players. Including myself. Finding people to try with me has veen super difficult. Im still a sprout. I really dont know where to begin.
If you're still a sprout then I'd say you should just go slowly, enjoy the game at your own pace. I do plan to make a video diving into how to actually be a Savage raiding, this video is more about convincing people to give it a shot!
I find savage content design in this game to be absolutely top tier encounter design. Its a beautiful dance and often makes fantastic use of different aspects and systems within the combat system. Sure there are many ways to nitpick individual fights for one reason or another but overall its an excellent game design feat to pump these out to the players so competently.
However, I do not Savage raid, and often dont do extremes either despite me adoring the design and ludoaesthetics of them. Why? short answer is 2 words: Other People.
The long answer; its alot more complex but depends of context for certain situations. Basically, I believe it is a clash of several factors that don't work for me personally. First thing is that I have found that over time, if I am doing any content, in any game, with people and some sort of coordination is needed, I will alllllways prefer VC coordination. Its clearer, you know who your dealing with, you can read others better, bring up and correct things easily, everything happens quicker and more precisely, even if ppl arent the most precise with words, its all immediate back and forth. Theres also more fun and banter than text communication. So even with just that fact, PF is immediately hell for me. There are other reasons I hate PF too and my most recent example is the fact I've done the latest extreme for 15+ hours now, never cleared, yet can do all the mechanics blind. Why do I keep failing.... OTHER PEOPLE. I just can't deal with randoms who never get mechanics therefore I never clear. God I love the fight but when I have ppl in the group who do the same shit every time and never learn.... drives me feckin crazy lol
Oh and cant do statics either cuz I cant do schedules without lots and lots of flexibility (irl out of my control problem) so fuck me I guess xD
Just my experience and frustration with all this jazz. Hope you enjoyed my random spew :D
Sheesh, I hope it gets better for you ;w; with more gear and such the extremes and savages will become easier so there's hope, I believe!
I get you on the current Extreme. It took me a good while to get the clear and is sucks that for this fight, even if i do the mechanics correctly, if one person dies before double meteor, we are boned...
@@Ihealwounds Agreed. After a while I just feel like I'm wasting my time when I could be doing other fun things in the game or other games 🙄
This is my first time catching up to the endgame without:
1. Being burnt out just from msq/casual
2. The next expansion coming out the next few weeks
For the first time im actually grinding the current tomestones. I almost have majestic weapon, and am buying 640 gear piece by piece and saving up to 650 comedy tomestone gear.
For some reason this doesnt feel like enough knowing that currently 660 is out there (and will probably increase in october tho), but no matter what approach one does it seems like it is locked behind savage.
I dont NEED this 660 gear as like you say, you have to beat the savage to get it anyways.
However, i actually am struggling a bit with even "recent" casual content. I am dying a lot recently and even wiped on the mother crystal one which really scared me from doing extreme+.
This + having a huge "missing out" fear is really a paradox for me
Honestly I feel that I can Savage raid and do ultimates, my major enemy is time, alot of statics have days and times they raid, with my free time i rather be doing something else in the game or playing another game than progging a fight with people I dont fully know or trust and that goes for party finder as well. Were it I had more free time I would give it a shot, but for the time being im happy slowly farming tome and normal raid gear for my jobs, besides savage raids and ultimate are but 1 ride in this amusement park and theres many.
Comparing an MMO raid to elden ring boss seems off here. In my opinion, the difficult bosses of souls game and how I die to them is my fault, recognizing them and fixing them bring me satisfaction. In an MMO, not so much, I could never tell if it was my fault or my teammates. If it is my fault, will fixing them allow me to clear? Sometimes. If it is my teammates faults how do I tell them? Should I tell them? Who am I to take away their satisfaction of finding their own solution? Am I underestimating their intelligent when I told them what they did wrong? How will they take it?
and yeah, loot. When I overcome a boss in a single player game I get the satisfaction of the loot, not always in FFXIV.
Edit: Last raid tier I did was Kefka, much might have change.
I just want to say that the true test of skill is clearing in partyfinder, with 7 other strangers who may or may not be mentally challenged.
I'm sure having a reliable static with callouts is comfy and all, but pf will make you actually good at the game because the only person you can rely on is yourself.
Honestly true, doing Party Finder has not only made me rely on myself to solve Mechanics but also force myself to be more consistent, because 1 more consistent player in a PF will significantly speed up progression
I am DESPERATE for the Axi mount from this time's savage, but I'm truly miserable at reaction times, as well as playing on the NA server while I'm in Japan with a 9-5 job. Obviously you can't fix my reaction timing, but aside from finding resources to learn my rotation, do you have any advice for how to find statics overseas/with extreme time gaps? Is twice on the weekend enough, or do you rec much more?
I think my best suggestion would be moving to the JP datacentre... There is a small ENG community on Tonberry from what I know
Instructions unclear, got hard-walled by PF at P9S Limit Cut with no statics currently recruiting
Dig deeper
not much to dig in Elemental DC to begin with sadly
and due to language barrier I’m nowhere near confident enough to join JP Only groups on Mana
I am still on only 1 single clear (p1s carry with Azu) - burnt out hard trying to do P5S in PF. Not willing to get a static as that feels to much like another job and I will not do PF again as it isn't for me. So Sadly I will sadly most likely not celar Savage. Heck I don't even clear EX fights any more as I loathe the idea of doing another fight in PF - my time in that was miserable.
I might think about doing it when the tier unlocks but not anytime soon.
For me, the reason to raid is simply because it's pretty much the only content in the game that challenges me. Esp playing healer, normal modes hardly give me anything to do. I kind of HAVE to do savage (or at the very least, extreme) if I want to have any sort of challenge playing this game.
That said, I do get tired with the commitment it takes to clear these, esp in a static where you HAVE to show up or you're disrespecting other people's time. This tier I was going to PF it but uh... i progged p9s like 3 times in party finder before lazing out xD Gotta have the drive to do it and I guess right now I just dont.
There's no rush! I understand not having the drive to do it though, no point in forcing yourself, I'm sure if that drives comes back you'll smash the tier Ai!
@@AzuriteTV im glad i did the tier i did, because it seems like it was one of the best for healers. P9S was kind of easy xD not sure about the other ones though.
I been kinda nervous to try savage raiding but I’ll give it a try soon. Still trying to pick a job to try it on. If any one has a suggestion that would be great.
Can you include more visualizations of the word "but" ? Thank you.
I have no idea what you're talking...
I think the main problem is time and looking for static. I have joined one and it disbanded after we cannot find time.
3:51 pause
Wait no, STOP
@@AzuriteTV 🤣🫣
Maybe a video on how to find a static group i still dont have a team to try ultimates :/
This has gotten me to want to Savage raid again. Lemme get my old Blu group and I'll get back to it for level 80 soon for the satisfaction.
Doing ex when I can. Will try p9s when I get tome weapon next week.
Big poggers, good luck!
I agree everyone should give it a try. However, imho, one should NOT be forced to try. Speaking from FC experience where one guy was dragged into a quasi-static despite not wanting to put the effort nor enjoying the process. They ended up going nowhere after 5 weeks and disband. They should've tried for one lockout and leave it at that....
Mmhmm, I agree! I can't force or want to force anyone! I'd just like for people to at least give it a shot, I think everything is worth trying at least once or twice on this game
Been trying to get into this tier for many months now but my FC is way too busy to do Savage, literally every single Static I go into falls apart before we do P9S either due to drama or commitment issues, and I found time so late in the tier that PF is full of people newer than even me. It got to the point everyone I know is saying wait until Dawntrails Savages pops up since I am hardwalled this bad by circumstance.
Probably a sign Savage isn't for me.
Gonna be an honest new player here, and after doing the first raid, i so want to try the harder difficulties down the line, but I'm very intimidated and don't know where to even start to gearing up wise hell i don't even have a single combat job leveled yet.
I see your releasing sneaky videos to make that p12phase1 PFs fill faster, clever 🤣
For me the reward is not worth the time investment. As with most rewards in the game, its all just Glamour and satisfaction of completing the content.
the satisfaction of seeing your own self improvement and doing it with a group you vibe with is the best experience in the game. nothing comes close to it.
I can definitely understand not doing esp if you don't have a fun friend group to do it with, but if you're lucky enough to get together some people then it will be a blast
It's both a combination of wanting to clear and mememing so hard
I don't know what rewards you're looking for, but rewards don't always have to be material in the game. The true reward of savage raiding is the gameplay and the journey itself to be honest.
@@Henurisongs This sadly only works with statics... I agree with you it is a great feeling but those of us who cannot or don't want to commit to one have no chance and then it is just a clusterfuck 9 times out of 10.
why play any game then if not for satisfaction lol
I came back to the game after a long hiatus and got abducted into an FC, formed a 5-man static and immediately ran EW's ex7 on the 2nd week, clear that and after almost 3 weeks of progging, I got my p9s clear as a tank and i am enjoying p10s prog so much
This tier was the first tier I did fully in PF... it's the fastest I cleared a tier actually.
Love to hear it! It's a case by case basis, if you have a lot of time to PF you'll probably clear faster then a casual or midcore group
@@AzuriteTV indeed, i havent had loads of time though due to work. But definitely put in more time than any static i been in, though a lot has been wait time.
@@cocolanfofolan2508 I feel that... did a 7 hour stream yesterday with the intention of progging p12s and only did like 50 mins of actual prog, the rest was waiting in PF 😭
@@AzuriteTV p12s is so slow in pf, my reclear this week took 3 hours to assemble… 45 minutes to beat the fight. I think majority is still in p11s
As someone who is TERRIBLE at this game, I know I'll never do Savage raids legit (and Twelve-forbid I ever dare show my face in an Ult raid), but I have at least tried and tasted basically everything the game has to offer, so I came up with a rough 'scale' of difficulty for content. This isn't official and is just my way of viewing things and hopefully others can kinda determine how 'ready' they might feel for harder content. The scale goes from 0 to 10 and is meant to be an exponentially increase in difficulty, so something being labeled as 1 or 2, doesn't mean it's a small 'step' necessarily for example, in difficulty.
0: Trash mobs in the wild, becoming a Mentor, literally anything NOT otherwise mentioned in this list that's 2 or more expansions old (and done unsynched with others, or solo, depending on the content)
0.25-0.75: Leveling dungeons, solo duties, easier-end hunts, and most regular FATEs (done solo)
0.75-1: Leveling trials (synched)
1-1.5: Finale dungeons, finale trials, sitting through the hours of cutscenes (love this game but it can get a bit tedious with just HOW LONG they talk sometimes), sitting through the credits
1.75: First tier of regular and alliance raids (synched)
2: End-game dungeons for an expansion (anything as part of the 50/60/70/80/90/etc etc going forward sets of dungeons), Treasure Dungeons, normal Variant Dungeons (if done in a group and synched), *This is also where things can actually start feeling even slightly tough*
2.25: Second tier of regular and alliance raids (synched)
2.5 EX-trials that are at least 2 or more expansions old (synched), third tier of regular and alliance raids (synched)
2.75: Very *very* last dungeon, trial, and raid fight of an expansion (first time only, synched), FATE Superbosses (if enough people are around), *This is also the level that 'at most' a super-casual can beat with face-rolling if everyone else is still even halfway decent, let alone actually good*
3: Variant dungeons (solo), Deep Dungeons (first time/solo) *Things really start gettin more legit tough here*
4: First tier of Savage raids (except for the 4th fight, and synched), Savage/Criterion Dungeons (synched, with a team), Baldesion Arsenal/Delubrum Reginae savage (first time)
4.5: Last fight of the first savage tier, second savage raid tier (except for the last fight, synched)
4.75: Last fight of the second savage tier, third savage raid tier (except for the last fight, synched)
5: Last fight of the third savage tier (synched), Ultimate raids
6: Fishing log
6.5: Getting every job/class maxed out
7. Actually gearing every job/class at max level
7.5: Actually finding a Static you can tolerate and not wish to curse their family lineage for three generations
8. Getting the last fucking EX trial mount you lack and the goddamn game won't fucking drop it (or you roll nothing but low numbers time after time!) so you have to grind the fight out 99 times to get it with your Totems of Shame! (Not that *I* have ever had that happen of course)
8.5: Buying a house in-game
9: Getting achievements (any)
9.5: Getting a Triple Triad card (any)
9.75: Getting Commendations as a DPS (extra points if you're a caster who rezzed people to save from a wipe)
10: Mentor Roulette
(Limited jobs like BLU don't really fit on the scale, as they vary too wildly to really be nailed down in any single way)
If I missed anything, lemme know. I will also say though that this game has a weird way of feeling a bit 'overwhelming' your first time doing something, especially as you get up into higher levels, yet the second you actually 'do' beat it, suddenly the anxiety vanishes, or at least for me it has. I've genuinely had god-awful hard fights...then as soon as I beat it once, I can turn around and suddenly the problems I had not but a minute ago are all gone and I can (usually with at least fewer mistakes/deaths) beat something again and again without issue, even if I'm rusty at it and haven't done it in awhile.
I love raids in the game, but terrified to actually try them due to anxiety
You ain't the only one. I'm pretty much the same way haha
It's inspiring to see that your recent frustrations with PF Savage lead you to encourage the next Generation of Raiders, not just curse the current
I bear no grudges against the people I raid and party finder with but that might be because I'm honestly an extremely patient person and fault myself over everything in life before faulting others
there are more pros and cons ,
Static pros: you have a group of people you enjoy playing with therefore you make more friends and makes xiv more fun.
static cons: if you only have 1 character, you are locked out proggessiong futher without messing up loot for your group. Therefore you must be dedicated to your static. Also static drama is a thing so it can be WAY more stressful at times not to mention if your static is stuck, then you are stuck too.
PF pros: you can contantly work on your own skill and play on your own time. It also lets you play more then 1 role in a fight if you have the gear too which is a case later in the tier. You are drama free so if a group is not to your liking you can leave without consiquence.
PF cons: You are at the mercy of RNG of teamates, you can either make good progess or go 2 steps back from your point and its very frustarting. If you cant ever get to your point that you have to join a PF further just to get practice then so be it.
either way savage is fun but dont burn yourself out trying to clear the fight.
"Butt!" deceased me! XD
i feel so dumb for waiting so long because i didnt want to be that person to wipe the group in a savage raid, or i would learn to slow, or playing on console would hold be back.....then i finally joined party finder and realized most people suck as much as i do and all of that went away. i wonder if ultimates are the same
If I could savage raid with trusts or solo content savage then I would do it but I'm really done with team based, time scheduled games, they don't feel like game but a job
i tried and at most i just beat 1 or 2 bosses from the tier, then is just not fun at all.
No one wants me doing savage anything. I wouldn't want to punish anyone that bad.
Everyone has to start somewhere! You'll never be the best Savage raiding when starting out... its of course completely up to you but I'd say its definitely worth a shot if you have the time
That’s me too
It's for the glam!
Id love to raid, but there is so many words that i literally dont know the meaning, especially in pf lol. Example, what tf does bring markers mean ???
Mechanics arent the problem, the unnecesary linguistics are lol
Bring markers, I believe, refers to waymarks. It shouldn't be as common now as you can save like 30 waymark presents
@@AzuriteTV yeah, its still hard to get into harder content, for me at least. your videos help alot tho
Nah
I hate to running against a wall for hours for stuff i easily can get easily later.
And the gear is just for glam and not needed out of the raids.
You want to do it, cool its your game get the fun out of it you want to have. Thats the most important thing!
For me Ffxiv is a space to slow down and relax.
Haha jokes on you
I'm not Savage Raiding this tier cuz I'm Ultimate Raiding :^)
What if you're no good? Ive P10S enrage multiple times, but trash will always be trash.
Bad take, be better... if you're self deprecating then you should try and improve, there is always room for it
while ur at it make an alt. i make like 30-50 million a week doing gil for gear parties on my alt lol. granted this is only when tier is somewhat new.
One thing to keep in mind about PF is that you shouldn't use it as a gauge for how difficult it'll be to prog a fight. PF raiders tend to not be very good at the game.
I disagree with this, I’ve met some great players and nice peeps in pf although I can agree it can be inconsistent
these arguments are not very compelling
1) if glamour is what you want there are plenty of other options that take far less time, effort and commitment. the only thing that makes sense to me is ultimate weapons, but getting one is not entirely contingent on YOUR dedication but also that of seven other people's which leads me to my next point
2) most people simply do not have the time nor volition to practice fights multiple hours every day to get into raiding when there are massive hoops you need to jump through. i am an ilvl 642 white mage main, fully melded, and even with the free time i currently have it does not make sense to me to join party finders, wipe, learn a bit, wipe, learn a bit, wipe because of other people, learn nothing, and so on until we manage to clear. my alternative is finding a group of people willing to bear with me as i learn the fights- that is unreasonable and unfair to ask of anyone and you will not find such a group easily at all
3) about experiences and "you wont get to experience it like when it was released", minimum ilvl sync is a thing. ive been playing since heavensward, before SB released by a few months, and i have the exact memories youre talking about. byakko ex and half the party dying to gliding between his orbs, shinryu ex aka falling off the map simulator, nidhogg ex and that time i pulled a healer lb3 and saved the run as the last one alive. even did some of the savage scapes
the people on PF are not very welcoming of people who have not raided before which leads to people lying about clears which leads to terrible experiences. on one side of things you cant blame people for not wanting to play with noobs but on the other i dont feel like its worth my time OR anyone elses time to join a PF for an ex trial when theyre all duty complete/demand youve progged on it at least.
it wasnt like this back then. people were far nicer and more patient. you enjoy raiding and thats great, im happy for you. but many raiders look down on players who want to get into endgame content + its really hard to find people to raid with. if you want to encourage people to raid this is not a good video because trust me, we KNOW. instead a video which points players in the right direction if any and acknowledges the elitism in raiding would be fantastic
I am glad to know I'm not actually crazy feeling this. I feel like I can't do anything even in different FCs I joined. Couldn't even do the first two EW EXs when those were fresh because the FC I was in because they wanted 580 ilvl for learning parties and I was seeing the same with party finder. Making my own PF was disastrous because no one actually wants to help new players get into raiding so I get left waiting several hours before getting a party and people disbanding after two pulls. Tried to get into raiding again when the current tier released and only had luck with finding one party in PF and ever since I've had life to focus on. Now it's nearly impossible for me to get into the tier and Crystal PF is dead because everyone goes to Aether. Sure I can travel to Aether but then I'll likely get paired with other Crystal players, which still leaves me with waiting hours for people to help and join my practice party.
TLDR: I can't get into raiding because Skill Issue on my part with lack of interpersonal skills and bashing my head against a wall.
I've been playing since early ARR and pugging has only gotten better at clearing content over time. Sorry you've had a bad experience with toxic and elitism though, but I've been taking my friend who hasn't touched a Savage raid at all through the current tier and myself and people in PF has been patient with them, so it's not the same experience everywhere clearly... I'm not going to make a video complaining about toxicity and elitism when I personally don't experience it either but I can understand your point, I've been raiding for a while so I get that I don't get that towards me for the most part.
pf for life
update: i have recently found a static and can conclude that pf is in fact not for life
My condolences.
I'm like so interested in giving savage a go, it's right up my alley as difficult content that you slowly learn to get better at, but everything besides actually the savage content is stopping me from doing so. I've been trying to find a possible static for like 2 weeks now but every single one is either already in p10s or later, needs loads of previous experience and wont take a fresh raider or they already have the role I'm interested in playing. I loathe to do savage in party finder as other pf stuff I've done has been hell, but have given it some thought. Sadly since its been almost a month since savage came out it seems like at least on EU not many fresh groups around anymore or at least not doing p9s or then once every few days I see one they already have everything besides melee which I absolutely hate to play and will never touch in harder content... I don't wanna setup my own either cause I don't wanna be "the leader" of a pf group as a new player, cause most likely I'll end up waiting hours and hours for anyone to join, would much rather just join one and wait till some action. On top of all of this I also only have around 6h max of free time on most days and waiting like 5h in pf just to wipe repeatedly few times and then disband is kinda wasted imo. (Not sure if this is common with current savage but oh my god if you wanna do older hard content people leave as soon as you wipe few times)
I hear your concerns and they are definitely valid! Doing PF is hell, and some people are really rude to new raiders ;w; personally once I've cleared the tier I'll be taking fresh raiders into the tier to get them comfortable with savage raiding. Of course I can't realistically get every single person who wants to try out raiding but I can at least contribute! I'm also EU based so if that's something you're interested in, you can check out my community links like Discord and Twitch to keep up to date! Alright I'm done selling myself out sorry >
Just make a PF for “fresh prog” and have at it. The leadership thing is not really applicable when it’s party finder. The only thing you’re more responsible for compared to other people is queuing into the duty. Everything else can be handled by someone else and I’m sure you’ll get someone willing to take the reins for you.
Manage expectations. If you want blind prog or want people to have watched a video, specify that in the PF description. Make sure to include “fresh prog” and toggle the sprout icon to welcome other first-timers.
Just give it a shot!
Some advanced party-finder-fu: If it’s slow to fill, see if you can get a friend on tank/healer to join the PF since if there’s already 3-4 bodies in the group people are more likely to join. If they don’t want to actually raid they can dip out once you reach 5 or 6 people and you should finish filling within minutes. You may need to edit PF once they drop to allow more jobs in their role to join since the slot will default to w/e job they were on.
@@Cellybeans appreciate your comment a lot. I know that as the person who sets up the pf you don't need to do much and I've seen lot of people put bring waymarks into the desc etc but I'm still a bit afraid of having to do all of that in case no one else wants to but I'm sure I'd manage. Just recently actually discovered that sprout icon in pf and that does give me a bit more hope as parties with it seem to be a lot more forgiving if you have it on.
I have since also talked to my friends but they are awfully against the idea of me doing savage as blm or the class overall. It's constant complaining about me playing it. Even tho it is my main and I know it inside out by this point, could probably play it blindfolded lol. One of them has a static and mentioned how they don't even let blms join, cause they're too difficult to manage and usually require specific catering towards them strat wise or something like that. Other friend said that as a blm apparently I'd be more of a burden and slow down progging. Bruh a way to encourage new players to get into savage...
Not sure what I wanna do at this point but if nothing ends up happening I guess I'll start preparing for the 7.0 raid tier then already lmao feels shit when no one wants you with them for content cause the class you wanna play and your skill level yet you can't practice cause well no one to practice with since no one wants you...
@@no00ob yikes those friends sound pretty sh*t. It may be true black mage is hard to play well when you're learning a fight but people who exclude jobs based on meta are dumb AF. All jobs are viable. Black mage is the most mobile caster at 90 and the mobility is usually what people cite as the issue.
Realistically Black mage's only real downside is the lack of combat rez compared to the other casters, which is super helpful during prog, but it's not strictly necessary.
Definitely make that PF and give it a shot. And tell your "friends" to go f*ck themselves. GO GET THAT CLEAR OUT OF PURE SPITE, I SAY!!
To anyone in a similar situation, you can do it! My friend running savage is planning a fresh group to bring us beginners through savage. On top of that I found a Blu static recently and soon getting started with Blu savage.
But.....im still starting as a sprout 😢
You're exempt! Enjoy the game at your own pace
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I would raid but i hear that raiding in this game is somewhat toxic, people being kicked out for not doing enough dps or the raid just quits after 4 or 5 pulls so you don't get anywhere, don't think that's a environment i want be in.
That's hardcore raiding... You will not find these kinds of ppl and expectations in pf, usually lol
At least not in my experience, ppl are only looking to get a clear. Not set world records
High parsing and such are only ever necessary on week 1 statics and certain ultimates due to strict dps checks but you pretty much wont find yourself in such things as a beginner
As for ppl giving up early, yeah that's unfortunate but sometimes you also get lucky and find ppl willing to wipe 10+ times to prog :')
Dps checks are not that high now it's so late in the savage tier so that's why you shouldnt feel pressured to make big numbers, only that you can do things without dying and comfortably do your general rotation with minimal mistakes
if ure on a fence if u want to raid, its probably not for u.
Blanket statement
@@AzuriteTV what does blanket statement mean?
@@AzuriteTV never mind i figured it out
@@LodriUp it means your statement has no evidence to what you're actually saying.. but you did say "probably" (my reading compression skills fail me) so I guess you aren't entirely wrong but everyone is different and some people might be hesitant but still enjoy raiding once they get into it!
thats such a bad mentality im sorry 😭savage is the same for like everything you'll ever do in life, you wont know until you try
why you shouldn't do savage: being stuck in p10s for weeks
But, I don't want to burden others with my lack of skill or ability.
Everyone starts somewhere!
If you fear you are not skilled enough to do savage then I have some news for you... EX and savage is what teaches you how to play to begin with lmao. If you don't do it, then you won't have the skill to do it.
Also praise party finder and playing when you want, join and leave on your terms and yours alone!. The struggle and sorrow that comes with it adds that little spice you need to feel immense gratification at finally clearing
Like always - too many ppl in PF that are not up to the task. And when you eventually clear it by accident, there's the new frustation of the RNG that ensures that you don't get what you deserve. The sensible thing to do is to unsub now and resub 6.5.
I don't raid because most of the time the party members aren't good enough. I have no interest in wasting time waiting for Betty to learn the mechanic after 20 attempts, i get bored and sleepy. My idea of a good raid is to go in, clear all savage bosses in a short evening and be done with it for the week. Maybe wipe once or twice because of a disconnect or an oopsie, fine.
its a waste of time. 6 months later your gear becomes trash
Endwalker savage raids are to hard compared to shadowbringers and it doesnt seem like they're going to slow down. So i started playing wow for the first time, And now im hooked and i dont think im going back anytime soon lol.
the good thing is that p10s will wall all the sub optimal players out. still personally think this is a terrible first tier for the new raider to start with though.
So you were NE when Circles happened... just run North of the dropped tower since it's a chariot shape ... and you dodge it... It's braindead.
??? Are you nitpicking the footage? Lmfao
No thank you.