The Hapstone R2 Sharpening System: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2021
- Today, join me from the Nick Sha-Batcave for a full review of the Hapstone R2 knife sharpening system, a very big system, which can give very nice results.
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I came here to watch a nice and relaxing video about a sharpener. Nick never pauses between sentences .
Whew, after two minutes I am already exhausted and I exercise EVERY DAY !
I picture nicks wife just standing there in the background shaking her head as Nick yells at his camera.
lmao 🤣 🤣 right that be funny
Makin fun of his "bitch hands".😉
I picture the rod on the sharpener going through the drywall and taking out someone's eye.
This is like in HS biology class when the teacher would take the whole class outside for a module or some kind of exercise. Nice to get some fresh air. Be it in the batcave, Nick’s garage or otherwise.
I’ve had this system for 3-4 months now, and for me it was totally worth it. I’ve got a pro model edgepro I’ve had for 15 years or so now. A couple of years ago I got a kme. I got a sharpmaker in the 90’s. And sometime in the last 5 or 6 years I got a ken onion worksharp. I slipped right into this system and was getting the sharpest most consistent edges I’ve ever gotten right away, no practice involved. Since I had edgepro and kme stones I didn’t bother buying any stones when I got it. I tend to use the kme diamond stones more. Setup is super fast, get the knife centered in the clamps, angle cube on the flat spot on the pivot housing, zero, snap angle cube onto the steel label plate on the stone holder and adjust to the angle I want (usually 17 degrees). Plus that collar on the shaft can be used as a thickness compensator but it’s also a fine tuning adjustment for the angle. It makes micro bevels a straight up breeze. I sharpened most of my coworkers pocket knives over the holidays and the longest is spent was about an hour on an m390 blade that was butter knife dull. Legit it was the best $300 I’ve spent on a sharpening system. Can’t recommend it enough.
A friend of mine just picked up this system and for me I think it’s a “dream” system. I have a KME now and I took a knife I had sharpened on it in the past and then resharpened on his hapstone and what I noticed is the bevels were more consistent in width side to side and the Hapstone clamps actually seemed to be more true or accurate than the KMEs which was surprising. Would you say you experienced something similar?
@@The335plyr definitely
Works really well on big blades like 9” as well. But for those, I use the synthetic stones, like sapphire and silicon carbon stones.
@@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc do you think it could sharpen a 12 blade kukri? Been looking for a replacement for my kme since the stones have started wearing out and it definitely doesnt sharpen a 12inch blade
@@sneakhyperion9297 That’s a good question. I have kukris, but I haven’t tried it on the Hapstone R2 yet.
Thank you for taking the time to walk us through this sharpening system, Mr. Woody Allen, sir.
I’ve had success using spyderco triangle shaped ceramic rods clamped in the stone holder for recurves and serrations .
Now I understand why I can't sharpen well: I wasn't doing the sound effects right!
Love the sound effects Nick made. Caffeine induced no doubt.
Thank you so much for the review.
Does it allow to sharpen a Mora 546 in factory angle?
Or does the clamp get in the way of the stone?
I've had issues with these types of thin low angle blades on other systems
Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work...
Much love from Switzerland
Hey Nick! Just got myself one of these recently. Kinda panicked when I saw this video come up: "Oh no, what little nitpick did I miss that now I'll never be able to unsee?!"
Wanted to address a few things I think you skipped that folks might care about:
1) That little add-on *can* be used as a stone thickness compensator, like any stop collar could be. But that rotating bit is actually a fine-tuning angle adjuster. Twisting the threaded bit lets you raise and lower the sharpening rod by extremely small, precise amounts. A hell of a lot easier than trying to manually slide it up and down with any precision. These are marketed to high-end folks who might otherwise be considering a Blitz 360 (which itself has precision angle adjusting) and plan to use this with an angle cube, but it's useful also for clumsy/inarticulate folks like myself. The Hapstone one feels very well-made, but for anyone with a 3D printer, a kind community member has created 3D models compatible with all major rod-based sharpening systems: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3644585
Which brings us to...
2) There's a metal plate atop the stone holder that was added specifically to securely mount an angle cube. A lot of KME owners will glue a small slab of metal to the wooden back of the stone holder for that same purpose. Which brings us to another common KME mod:
3) That wooden ball at the base of the sharpening rod is ergonomic and easy to grip, but also keeps your fingers further away from the sharp edge of your blade, should you accidentally do anything silly. That's *another* common mod for the KME -- people will replace the little plastic screw at the base of the stone holder with a threaded knob to grip.
4) The part the rod slides back and forth through runs on 4 rows of ball bearings that provide a super smooth drag, making it easier to "feel" the stone against the knife. It also completely eliminates rod play compared to the KME (whose nylon collar can slowly wear), let alone something like the far cheaper Lansky or DMT systems (where the rod can clank around in a much bigger hole).
5) This whole system is sold as modular parts if you want, and the base is fully compatible with an EdgePro-style (rest the knife on a ledge, only theirs have a magnet to hold it in place) unit that you can swap with the clamp module.
6) The Venev Centauri stones cost $100. There's no discount if you bundle them with the sharpener or add them as a separate item in your cart.
7) The lack of a case. Ugh. You're 1000% right. I thought a lot about which parts I'd want to take apart/reassemble each time and decided I was comfortable removing the rotating clamp module, since I'd need the 4mm hex driver anyway to tighten the clamp and you barely have to loosen the bolts to remove the clamp module. That brings the bare minimum dimensions of the base to 8-1/16" x 10" x 3.25". The rod (if you disassemble it with the 2mm hex driver) is 13" long. I found this put it in a kind of odd range for aftermarket hardshell cases: most are either smaller (maxing out at 6" width) or much longer (in the 16" length). I was looking for the smallest possible case, and actually *just* ordered the HUL "Small Military Style Hard Case" off Amazon. Its internal 8x10x4 dimensions should allow the base to sit at a very slight angle, while the 13" rod will have to go diagonal (geometry says I've got 13.4" on the diagonal of a prism that size). It comes tomorrow, so I'll let folks know.
The HUL case did not end up working out. They overstated their internal dimensions (they said "about 8 x 10 x 4", so I can't say they lied), and it did not fit. It was also _very_ cheaply made, and clearly a visual-imitation-only version of a Pelican-style case.
I ended up going with the Eylar "Compact 13.37" Protective Gear, Camera, & Gun Case
." Night-and-day quality difference (feels pretty comparable to my actual Pelican cases), and everything fits inside great.
Full description and images for how to fit everything inside: imgur.com/gallery/zJ4xE8V
Stats:
- Outer: 13.37" x 11.62" x 6"
- Inner: 11.81" x 8.87" x 5.18"
- IP67 Waterproof protection for up to 1 meter fully submerged with a rubber gasket lining.
Manufacturer: www.eylar.com/gear-cases/compact-protective-waterproof-gun-case-gray.html
Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N4CDW3L/
I just picked up a TS Prof K03 and love it.
Does it have marked angles? Or do you have to do it by feel or use a digital angle meter on top of the stone holder etc once you have your knife in there or?
You can adjust the fliption. That's exactly what you can adjust among other things like clamp widthitude, sharpening anglity and stroke lengthness.
Love the look of that sharpener. Hope it is as good as it looks. Big but looks to be able to handle anything from a machete a small folder.
Just got a KME because of Nick and Cedric’s review. I got the package with 4 diamond stones then purchased a Kangaroo strop and the Jensde diamond resin plates 3-15 micron
Another great review Nick.
What sku, kits and add on's for this system would you recommend? Trying to find the best overall kit for the money and getting hung-up with the details.
Hey Nick, I've got a DMT Aligner and a full set of the 4" DMT stones - would these fit in the Hapstone? I'm asking as I think they're same size as the KME stones. Thinking of upgrading to the Hapstone RS...
Nick I know it was discuss that it uses serval different stone, but does it use lapping films, glass blanks from KME ?
I love my Venev stones but I go with single sided over the dual grit ones. No chance of grit contamination, you get more abrasive and they're easier to mount in stone holders since they're tin and attached to a blank vs thick and no grooves.
Nick, put a mirror-polished edge on a Z hunter 😁 !
Hey Nick, have you checked out the new quietcarry waypoint in g10?
Shakespeare and Shabazz, kings of making up new words
Who makes that pegboard system that you have? Mark Rober has the same one. I like that you used a solid door for a benchtop. I did the same.
awesome looking sharpener looking like great quality
I picked one up after watching your video . Can you do a small demo . Using sharpie and angle cube . TYVM for your time .
At the price and taking up the space, if you're a professional wanting something set up the whole time then are there reasons you'd choose this over a powered system (or even simply running a finer grit belt on the grinder you likely already have if you're a maker)?
Most of the powered systems cant give you a perfectly flat edge, the wheel sharpeners will give you a slightly concave edge and the belts will typically give a slightly convex edge. This is not really an issue for 95% of knives for but some it can be if you want a full flat grind or something. Powered sharpeners will obviously have significant speed advantages though. There really isn't a single tool that does everything the best when it comes to sharpening.
The mcro-adjust's main purpose is to allow you to accurately adjust the sharpening angle - best in the industry I believe. 1. adjust sharpening angle with the micro-adjust collar, and tighten the tilting head, 2. drop the micro-adjust down to set the distance from the head to the adjust = stone thickness, and now tighten the collar, and 3, when you change to a different stone, loosen the head, insert the new stone of another thickness, then re-tighten the tilting head. For holding a square stone, don't you rotate the holder 180 degrees? BTW, maybe boring, but the goal is consistency - which it appears to provide.
This dudes way of teaching is awesome. Cool N.E. accent too
What’s the max and min sharpening angles?
Opinion on belt sharpeners?
NGL when you said you were testing a new sharpening system in the Kansept video I was hoping for the Worksharp
Ima tell you first hand that thing rocks. I reprofiled a rounded m390 para 3 tip last night :)
When I saw the thumbnail I thought Nick was reviewing some sort of stair stepper exercise machine 😆
The more I sharpen my knives the more I find that I actually prefer a working edge over a screaming edge. If the knife just cuts paper, it does fine for all of the tasks I'm likely to use it for and doesn't accidentally cut the crap out of me when I'm fidgeting with my knife. Cooking knives are the one exception.
Nick..How do you still have all of your fingers?
Witch do you like better kme or this one
Does it come with a roof rack for easy transport?
Or a class 3 reciever hitch insert.
@@stoneblue1795 LOL
Looks really efficient.
That's not a thickness compensator, it's a fine-tuning adapter. If you use a digital angle gauge, then you use that to fine tune the angle you want. Without it, it's pretty hard to adjust freehand from xx.x to xx (whole number) degrees. You can also use it as a thickness compensator.
Love my Wall Control!
Have you tried the new Worksharp Precision Adjust?
Would love to see the Nick Shabazz treatment on this unit as well. Since it is like the first budget offering from a real company.
his transitions to merch are better than linus tech tips' transitions to sponsors.
change my mind.
this device is clearly a better build then the KME which you sir are a FAN BOY!
Wow. Shabazz's channel has turned gritty.
Outside of the "horrible knives" category, I'd think the Northmann to be the worst to sharpen, with the kento recurve blade. How did that put up in this system?
There are so many similar sharpening systems out there now, it may be a matter of "pick your price". Yeah, the more expensive ones will (probably) always be better....but there are $50 options for those of us who sharpen once in a blue moon that work pretty good too!
As a reviewer, you have the difficulty of comparing the Porsche to the Honda, or the CIVIVI to the Chris Reeves. How much "meh" do you forgive for being a few buck cheaper?
@ 1:31 did you read the manuals before making the criticism ?
Bet those stone jaws are reversible there, Nick. Would the flat side hold square edged stones more securely?
They are, but even still, there's nothing but friction holding it in, on the blade-facing direction.
That thing is way way bigger than it needs to be. I like the idea of the stop collars on each end though
Nick - I’d love to see you do a video on sharpening different blade styles. E.g. Best tool or method to use for sharpening slight recurves, etc.
Actually the adjustable collar is an fine angle adjustment device.
Spyderco Sharpmaker and a strop all you need
I couldnt do without portability, my kme collapses fully into a case, or I can leave it out and be fine. The no rubber jaws sucks, I like my ffg too much.
You can adjust the angle of the jaws to match your FFG by tightening the black screw behind the forward silver main screw, it's a balance between the two screws.
Can I send you my gerber sedulo? The grinds are so uneven.
Love your videos, Nick. Do the Work Sharp guided sharpening system next! Wondering if a $60 sharpener is worth a damn.
It is very worth a damn.
It works very well and will greatly accelerate the learning curve for free handed sharpening but the diamond plates for it are crap and don't last very long
@@9mmmike642 Thanks!
@@thecydonianknight6849 Thanks for the info!
@@thecydonianknight6849 Think their is a good way to use better stones on it? Or screwed with proprietary stones?
Yes but will it sharpen a Batman shuriken?
The Hapstone R2 works very well on big blades. I used it to reprofile a Busse TGULB I also, have the wicked edge WE130 for my regular folders and pocket knives.
If you could only have your hapstone R2 or your Wicked edge, and you were consistently sharpening 4-10" kitchen knives, what one would you choose?
@@legallyfree2955 Probably the WE130 it’s faster than the Hapstone.
@@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc Thanks. I have used a system similar but much cheaper than the Hapstone and looking at videos of the WE it looks like it would be uncoordinated to use somehow but I guess you get used to it. They are the two I am trying to decide between though.
@@LuisGonzalez-gl4wc Oh, and the TSProf I am looking at too, I think that looks pretty slick.
@@legallyfree2955 TsProf is nice. I looked at that one, just haven’t tried. Just got used to WE regardless. You’ll need an angle cube with either to get the right angle and gritomatic sells a cheap one for either
He even has a garage in SoCal!?
It’s like the Tardis. I want to see his corrosion testing infinity pool. It’s a work expense, I swear.
His patreons have been kind
Dat youtube money
@@MrLlama999 tax deductible? Lol
I'm sure there's a ton of options as far as real estate goes, you know, with the mass exodus out of California going on right now.
Could you show sharpening of a knife please?
Pretty neat
Hi Nick is the KME still your preferred choice ?
These days, Hapstone and KME are basically neck and neck, but if I use a system, I would use the KME.
@@NickShabazz thank you Sir for your reply! Getting very close to pulling the trigger on the KME. The community customer support and accessories for the KME are hard to beat. The R2 looks tempting but too big for a town house with no dedicated space. The only other thing on the horizon is the new Hapstone RS on kick starter it does look interesting. The lack of stop collars is a little concerning for a newbie. I wish some one had one to test. Thank you again Nick I thoroughly enjoy your channel!!
When you said size comparison, I lost it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The fliption is nice.
How about reviewing the new Worksharp system which is similar. At least it is afordable
If you could find one anywhere.
Plenty of other reviews of the worksharp. This system can do a whole lot more than the worksharp. Better quality components like machined steel and aluminium compared to plastic. The edge pro style stones are way better the worksharp stones. Clamps the knife much more solid with no flex.
I prefer non clamp systems. They are so much more versatile in sharpening different blade shapes. I have a hapstone m2 and edge pro along with kme, Ken onion grinder, Spyderco and a bunch of other sharpening stuff. The M2 is my goto. Most of these systems are not for novice people, but it makes sharpening more accurate angles.
How is it attaching the blade, does it snatch it quickly causing it bang on the platform due to strong magnets?
@@ILoveTheAllCreator no scratching and you can put tape down to avoid that regardless.
@@tacticalcenter8658 ok, thanks
Nick, would love to see you give the Shabazz treatment to the new Work Sharp Precision Adjust sharpener. Hearing good things elsewhere so far and am interested in a bit of good great bad ugly.
On it!
@@NickShabazz Great!
If you could find one anywhere.
Yeah except they haven’t been in stock anywhere since 10 minutes after they first came on the market.
@@hcookaustin Yeah they seem to go in bursts. Hot tamales.
Judging from the clamps, it is the R2 classic, which costs you $360 on Gritomatic, not $270.
I use a KME and have been very pleased with the results...except...for one thing. That is the limit on the length of knife you can sharpen on the KME. Now iv3 been told that longer knives CAN be sharpened on the KME, but I’m don’t think I want to go to the extreme of that task. This m@chine looks to me like it would sharpen short or long knives both effectively. So I must say the only thing that would stop me from purchasing this sharpener is the price. You could spend twice maybe three times as much money on it than the KME.
Don't be fooled by kme low entry price....because once you begin to buy all the accessories they add up super quick...like to the tune of $1200 all in
The kme is not remotely in same league as the r2 as far as build quality and overall versatility
I had a kme for roughly 7 yrs until it fell apart on me....I doubt the hapstone will do same.
I have the TSPROF K03 Similar to this and love it!
I think it was the original one that sparked all the copies. Although improvements are always good the KO3 is awesome!
Before TSPROF had been known to the US, i found, via a russian knife forum, and talked the owner of TSPROF into sending the originals to myself, Jim Ankerson, and Wranglerstar. Tried to get Jim Skelton and AposteP onboard but they didn't respond. Well, Skelton did and sai he didn't care about sharpening. So I got a K01. They started making so many revisions i couldn't keep up. Anyway, i stopped using it and it sits there rusting as i type this. Too much to set up. I can get results just as good with a ruixin pro or whatever. The russian diamond stones from vendeved or whoever they were called (VID) were really good though. I just don't have the desire to get perfect edges anymore.
Also, i stopped chasing knives. I have different knives I'm content with. Edc a slysz bowie with an m4 carbon fiber pm2, millie with 204p, zt 0561, olamic wayfarer with m390, and a stainless opinel #8 on standby. Got rid of basically everything else. And i prefer to handstone my knives. It's so much faster and gives the slight convex edge and i find that cuts easier than hard v edges. The bevels may not be perfect but after stropping i can still shave hair easily and I'm good with that.
Ahh, just heard him say it. Venev
As Batman, I thought he'd be more muscled.
That's cause the muscles are molded into the costume
Is it just me or do all these things look the same?
They pretty much are all the same with some minor differences. This one is just bigger than it needs to be
Build an overly complicated mouse trap.....and they will buy it.
How is it overly complicated, you clamp the knife down and you sharpen it. You don't have to soak anything you don't have to measure any weird angles. It's all perfectly controlled with guides.
A wet stone is a wet stone regardless of the system you're using. And the "weird angels" still need to be setup for the guides to be "perfectly controlled".
@@rabbitslayer42 there's an angle control on the arm that makes it so simple a 5-year-old could do it. And you can mount any kind of sharpening plate in that system. Diamond or whetstone.
KEJ Adventures I like the remark that “a 5 year old could do it.” I reeks of maker-smarter-than-buyer. “KME Envy” much?
@@ncsEsper I don't know what kme envy means.
with a knife in the vise and the arm set to an angle you quite literally can't push it down any further. So the only possible sharpening you could do would have to happen at the correct angle. It's hard to explain much simpler when you actually just use it.
GAWD FORBID Squiggy gets his hands dirty!!!
You have more space then me Mobil home lol that's why I'm going Lansky Deluxe Diamond System
What’s the dimensions?
The large size & stability combined with the long stroke & ability to use a variety of different stones seem to make this system more suited to a professional sharpener than a hobbyist. Hobbyists want a case & more compact size.
Looks like a giant KME to me 🤔
Thats what I was thinking.
Nick what watch and strap is that?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe the watch is the Maratac Titanium quartz GMT available on CountyComm. (It's essentially modeled after a Sinn 856 UTC). Strap not sure
That's it! And the strap is just a cheapy leather from Barton Bands.
Don’t get into watches! Lol
@@charlesholland6851 I’ve already been bitten by the bug. Ugh! I need watch buyers anonymous
@@MrAndrewberg thank you!
Still waiting on a wicked edge review.
Fliption. I like it.
When I watch people demonstrate this system, they make really short strokes... maybe 2 inches long. Wouldn't that create uneven wear on the stones rather quickly?
I tend to use longer ones myself when using it, for exactly that reason.
There's an echo like in every good cave.
Did the old lady wear a joker mask for the video? She always ask nick why so serious.
@ $400+ ... nope.
That's actually not a stone thickness compensator Nick, it's a fine tuning adapter to allow incredibly accurate angle adjustment while using an angle cube.
As well as a stone thickness compensator. It does both
This guy could sell me anything
Lol on the delica
daaad... this weird table looks weird, I'm scared
monstrous sharpener lol
I think for 300 I'll pass.
Definitely better than a Wicked Edge lmao. After buying my case, im out ~1700 at this point
Hapstone sends Nick the new sharpening system...later probably regrets it haha. Too many downsides.
It wouldn't hurt to mention that the piece is made in Ukraine. You do it every time when a knife is made in USA, don't you? Expensive? As you noted this system is sturdy and heavy as rock. If you compare it to KME, the KME is not that much cheaper, but it is much flimsy shaky and unstable piece of equipment (I have both), and with a plastic pivot for the rod! Hapstone has a whole bearing system right there. Did you see that? Why not to comment about it? It is as smooth as you can get.
You can feel there is much more "real estate" that comes with Hapstone. Compare it to Russian analogue. Good piece too, no doubt, but TWICE as expensive!
You butchered the curve on the knife at 11.48
This looks like a total rip off of the Russian TORSF Knife sharpener, Which is a beautifully machined piece of high-quality sweetness!
Are you intentionally sounding super Jewish?