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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2017
- #ShareTheKnowledge Podcast Episode 25 (re-upload with audio)
Today we talk about what it means when a DJ is reading the crowd and I answer some questions from the comment section.
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Here we go: a version with audio ;) Sorry for the delay!
djTLMtv Your fast reaction to our complaints is really cool! Thank you!
Thank you man (pura vida) all the way from costa rica.
This stream quality is terrible
I’m 50 years old I’ve been doing this since 1981. I’m still humble enough to gain knowledge and wisdom from you brother. One Love TLM. #STK
Same here man, I'm still learning every day!
hey Scott just wanna say keep the passion what you have is gold
I'm also 50 yrs old (well nearly) have been djing for more then 30 years now and I still do gain each gig knowledge or humble enough to accept it. It happened to me that I switched genre and suddenly the floor went empty, I immediatly switched (like after 15 seconds not the whole track) to another genre and the floor was again packed... if you don't look at your crowd at that moment, you can't adapt either. Cheers big up! DJ CFLY
Great advice as always. Unfortunately a lot of DJs out there still get it wrong. Some assume that playing bangers/music they like, works regardless...#Fail. I've had instances where I literally had to completely throw out a prepared playlist and completely went freestyle just coz the crowd was feeling it. A DJ is an entertainer, period. And if you cannot make the crowd move, then it doesn't matter what technical skill, flashy equipment etc. you got.
So true. I've played for people who clearly wanted a more chill atmosphere. They did not want crazy high energy bangers or super fast mixing at all. I just played groovy R&B tunes like R Kelly - Step in the name of love, Koffe Brown - Afterparty, Lucy Pearl - Dance Tonight, etc, etc and they had a blast! Non-stop dancing and singing along to everything
Hell yeah, I can relate. Plus that's my kinda music. Actually everything Old School, is my kinda music, hahaha.
Lmao at you clowning my big ass library😂🎉
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Only God can reward you for sharing your experience with us. I have been thinking of this for a while and you just explained in details. Thank you boss
+DapTee consultancy UK Ltd Great! 👍🏽👍🏽
It is always good when someone with unbelievable experience shares their knowledge. Especially in music. Respect, thank you and I learnt something.
I appreciate hearing that👊🏾
@14:40 How to organize music: SMART CRATES. Smart crates are a game changer, you will never have to drag tracks into crates ever again. You do all the work when you prep a track, and then it organizes itself. add tons of tags to tracks with info about them (vocals, if they have multiple genres they could fit in, opener/closer, energy level, popularity, etc) and then you have a library that organizes itself as you add more music.
"I make a conclusion that that crowd is just like that" 😭Dying rn. Truth. Please don't change. And THANK YOU!
Thanks for posting this Sensei. You always have pearls of wisdom. Reading a crowd has always been the MOST challenging for me as Dj.
Very important to read the crowd I don’t never prepare sets..I carry crates... now in digital mp3 I’m a versatile DJ. Great video TLM
I started DJing in an area where there was little reaction. I thought it was me at first until I did a party in another city and they went crazy. Different type of people react differently. I noticed a younger crowd does not party like the older crowd did and still does.
Different people, different location, age. All factors that play a role for sure
really good tips,been a DJ for 28 years and it's refreshing to see a DJ tips channel that's clearly outlining the same issues I overcame after about 2 years since I was 16/17,you explain clearly,no ego,unlike me,I do mixes,just in the house that are mostly to complex,doing total mixing,like 5 minute or more mixes taking bar breaks,dodging chord/key/vocal/ clashes,beat breaks,intros that start 4/8 even singe or 2 beat breaks at the start of DJ nightmare records that make you work a little harder,tricky out of single/double beat tracks giving you a 14 or 15 beat intro while great when you can do them but for the novice it's hard,have opinions re passing the time waiting for your cue,I sometimes add in some reverb or echo and or maybe with some bit crusher at about 5,10 20% out of 100%,usualy about 6-11 on bitcrusher,gives more of a kick to the beat ,esp if your playing it faster than norm wich you can manipulate at a minor twist of I dial and it sounds like your bringing in new drumbeats when your only tweaking a a little,lots of we fx you can do but don't overdo,unless your really improving a track, the croud won't thank you for ruining a song,they may like a good track with some on the fly live remixes,maybe adding the same song a half a minute in so you get the best bits of the tracks played throughout,but work that out first,sometimes I only play the same records just 4 beats in,gives you some mad echo effects.Sound DJ tips,after 30 years almost not anything I didn't know but if just starting out I'd listen to this guy,dunno who's been mixing longer and not heard his stuff but impressed by his style and content,wise words,listen up to the man,CLEARLY knows his stuff,subbed,thinking of starting a channel myself,not great with social media but will follow,could be swapping to odd tip between us,and anyone in comms if you understand the shit I'm saying pat yourself on the back,you are a good DJ,cheers TMLmt,am sure many dj's have learned some good pratical common sense that ya get with years of training,good luck,if I feel I can add my own takes,back up what you're saying and even suggest alternate ideas and thought,saw so many dj's with"Advanced Mixing Tips!.... two 32 beat basic drum machine pattered tracks being mixed so you can hear each track ever so simply falling into line ... er,I learde that in a couple of days!But your vids are really good,very good presentations and ya cover a lot that beginners and average DJs will benefit,cheers,KraktE(alienrape is not a DJ name,it's a trigger name,lolz
In my experience it's the bar owner that wants to control the vibe with certain genres of music. What they don't realize is... the crowd doesn't like it but as a DJ we know what's gonna get the best reaction. I've come to the conclusion to stop listening to bar owners who have no experience in reading a crowd and knowing what to play.
Thanks to share the knowledge. What I love about DJing is that feeling that I’m going out of my comfort zone and comes the butterflies in the stomach. My adrenaline level goes high. However, when I note that me and the crowd are connected and party is flowing, the sensation is priceless.
Thanks for the Knowledge.
No doubt bro. I love doing this
djTLMtv One question. I’m new djing. Start a short period of time ago from watching your videos. Always had a love for music. When mixing is there a certain bpm range I soon try to stay within when I’m trying to transition to the next track. I’m not good at all with fancy transitions that will come later.
Thanks and keep the knowledge coming. I need it.
So True about that Dead Crowd! #salute
It will happen to all of us some times ;)
Great content as always..
Thanks bro
hey could you do a show about MIDI DJs who perform with external drum machines and live synths?
I plan to talk to a DJ who does stuff like this. Check out Kypski - Mura Masa on CZcams to see what he does
djTLMtv kool watching right now
First things first... thank you @DJTLM for posting this video. I find all of your tutorials/videos informative and helpful. Keep doing what you do, sir!
I have a SZ2. The SZ2 is absolutely huge but I really like it and the features that it has including the post fader effects. I upgraded from a DDJ-S1 and I got a little lost when I first looked over all the buttons and knobs. Now I'm more familiar with them and I'm at the point where I'm figuring out how to use them to improve my mixing. The SZ2 costs quite a bit but if you have the money for it and don't already have the SZ then you may want to consider it.
Another thing you may want to take into consideration is Rekordbox DJ. I've used Serato since I first started but I was also curious about how Rekordbox worked. Unfortunately (as of several months ago) the SZ2 does not work with Rekordbox but I didn't know that until I brought it home, plugged in it and tried to run it. Had I known beforehand then I probably would've also considered the DDJ-RZ. But again, I'm happy with the SZ2 and I'm already familiar with Serato DJ so all is good.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback! I saw someone in the comment section who has the sz2, but can't get the post fader fx to work. I don't have the unit here so I can't check. Was there anything you needed to do to activate post fader?
I don't remember doing anything special, they just worked...well sort of. On FX1 I have UFO, Space Verb Lift and Reverb. I just tested all 3 again but I still couldn't get UFO to work post fader. On FX2 I have LPF, HPF and Echo, but I could only get the Echo to work. I'm still new to the post fader effects feature and I'm still learning the SZ2 so I don't know if the post fader effect feature is designed to utilize all of the FX in Serato. But for as much as the SZ2 costs it definitely should.
Also, I'm running Serato V 1.9.10 on a Windows 10 laptop that was updated earlier today. The post fader effects, mentioned above that worked, still worked even before the Windows updated that I did today.
Please let me know if any additional information or clarification is needed. #ShareTheKnowledge
I have found that 25 to 40 song crates. I add to crates until I have the page slide once when I twist the knob.
THIS IS (THEPEOPLESDJDJFROST) AND I HAVE BEEN DJING FOR A WHILE. MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN I DJ BETTER
DO TLM, great content!
I’ve been wondering this since I started watching your videos about a year ago. I know you’re living in Amsterdam but where are you originally from? Love the vids. Thanks for the excellent content!
I wanted to know, how can you rock a crowd while still playing the unique and rare music you love? Do such crowds even still exist, where they are open to hearing new things and enjoying it?
+Shreya Panigrahi I know what you mean and it’s not easy. Most “mainstream” places will attract crowd that want to hear mainstream music. They don’t react that well to “unique and rare music”.
I used to play at a spot where I could literally play anything and the crowd would love it. As a DJ that is such a liberating feeling!
What I would do (if I was in your shoes) is try to find your audience online. Look for people in your area who are into your style, and once you find enough organize a small event for those people. That way you will have the right crowd. Now it might never turn i to something really big, but at least you get to do what you want to do
Wassup TLM? What happened to the Super Sessions?
Well, one difference I encountered with rekordbox dj is that if you scratch slow , like really slow, it cuts out the audio. I’m not sure if I’m doing something wrong but I never had that problem with serato
Hi TLM! I have some Questions about Mixing Technics:
When you do a transition oder drop-it-on-the-one, are there special Points in the Tracks where to do this best?
So I recogniced a good Point for a Drop is after a Hook, whithin the first Beat of a ne Verse, because after a Hook, the old song often has some kind of closure. Are there any other Points that you can suggest?
The more difficult thing for me is to choose the right Place for a transistion. A Break seems to be always a good Part to go out of the Track.
If the new Track has the same Key as the Track thats playling, it coult also be possible to Mix the 4 Bar Intro in the last 4 Bars of a 8 Bar Hook and as the new Track is going to be start right, the old Track can be closed.
Do you sometimes also mix into a Verse? Or is that a no-go? Do you have any other clues about this theme? Thanks a lot an best regards!
As a DJ, Do you need to have all the genres on your playlist? For example, I like playing House Music and I have a collection of several sub-genres of House Music such as Future House, Electro House, Progressive House and etc. Should I have tracks that I do not plan to play in the future?
+Garry Malalo-an As a DJ you should do what you want to do and play the genres you like to play. I don’t have folders with tracks/genres that I don’t plan to play. But for some DJs this will be different. If you choose to become a DJ who plays everything then you will need to have all genres in your crates
Thanks for answering my question, brother. I watched this vlog from a DJ who you may know; who said that if you do not have all the genres of music in your playlist, you're an incomplete DJ (Which I would strongly disagree). Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts on my question. More power to you, DJ TLM. Bedankt! :-)
Garry Malalo-an holy shit man. If house is the only genre you’ve got you really need to broaden your taste a lot. I’m s dj And always get people dancing and it’s usually not from house . I do pop , disco , funk , soul , 2000s dance , 90s r and b . Oldie Goldie’s , rock n roll , blues bop , 80s dance . Check out my CZcams if ya like
What good standalone controllers are out there that work with serato? I'm looking at the denon DJ MCX8000 but want to know if a cheaper, 4 channel option is out there and has good reviews etc.
rct3isepic mcx8000 is a great controller but I use a legit dj pool and in standalone mode doesn’t recognize a lot of tracks even if i scan it through the engine software, you’ll need to get a separate program to convert the tracks to a format that engine will recognize
Serato DJ is new to me and importing new tracks to my crates can be a pain. With Virtual DJ v7, (and every other version before it) importing was not necessary as Virtual DJ's library can locate your PC's library and play the tracks as is. I'm not sure if Virtual DJ v8 still functions that way. I like the method you use to import new tracks to Serato and I would love to see a video on exactly how its done.
been talking to this guy from pioneer about the idea and how they plan to make RB z 1st dj software , and it all seems like rekordbox gonna dominate for the coming decade or over .
Appreciate to share this knowledge to us . Thank you sir! But this video has sort of glitch? The audio sounds so uncomfortable for hearing. Sry for my English.
Yeah, a couple of episodes had some audio issues indeed
DJ TLM TV still supporting you as always. Keep it up sir
we miss you bro!!!!!
Mr.TLM do you manage your music with itunes or direct in to serato dj
+Dean Salmon Neither. I make folders on my computer and import those folders into Serato and Rekordbox
I had a personal experience with iTunes management and I would agree with TLM and make your own folders. Years ago when I used iTunes there was a bug that rewrote all my files to four-letter character, for example, MJ Thriller was renames to QXUC. This happened to all my files, imagine what it was like to correct that. I would never rely on any software again to organize my music. Even last year there was another bug that deleted your files from the library.
Thank, Allan Brown. Something like that happened to me it rename the files in chinese language
I manage my music with itunes, because I use a lot of Rekordbox and Serato. For me when I manage my music direct to serato or rekordbox, it’s harder to find the folder, because I must always copy that folder. You can use also rekordbuddy to convert that. It’s all depands what works better for you
DJ TLM... you stated that the podcast are Mondays at 1pm. Is this 1pm est?
Much respect from the StL!
+Kiume Afrika No, that’s GMT +1. I think that’s a 6 hour difference from est
Its there a way I can use my NS7iii with out a lap top.
No
djTLMtv so I guess just placing the lap top under the booth is what I'll have to do.
#sharetheknowledge Hey Fam! Big fan here with a question. I play a lot of corporate events and weddings. I read a lot of DJ's talking about "taking the crowd on a journey" How can I do that when I'm playing just "Top 40" and "Pop EDM" and no "real dance music" like Soulful House, Deep house etc.
where would I get old hip hop from....idjpool?
What kind of Hip Hop you looking for? I've had a great experience with Franchise Record Pool (www.franchiserecordpool.com) so far. Everything from New School, to my favorite genre - Old School Hip Hop. Their database is quite extensive. You can also try BPM Supreme
I agree. Franchise record pool has all the old school bangers. Plus they have a ton of intro edits of these songs.
Franchiserecordpool.com have a pretty good selection i really like directmusicservices.com
they got some hard to find tracks too
I hosted a wedding ceremony two weeks ago. I started dj'ing back in 89'. I am 40 ish years old. I've performed in all aspects of our industry. House parties, private, corporate, wedding ceremonies, clubs, east coast, "Vermont" west coast, "LA/Compton", up north to include "Chicago & down south @ Panama City Beach/Tampa/Y'bor city, Miami. I've been lucky & very fortunate. That ceremony I hosted a couple of weeks ago was terrible. The bride was unbearable. She provided me with her personal song library. She said, if you play a song not on my list, I will sue you in a court of law. Her song selection was so terrible that people only danced to four of her song requests. A four hour gig turned into a two hour gig. I made $2,200.00 and got to go home early. What would you suggest that I should have done differently?
hank shepherd hey man I feel u on this subject with the lady in the wedding I felt the same about the groom family not the groom just his family. They want me to play the some type of genres of music that I don't have cause the groom didn't give me his list that his family request now they from Africa i had reggae for few but this guy give me his CD of songs that the groom should of gave me but yeah I did it they dance for lil bit but got the bride list like old and new school hip hop r&b 2 step music that I got on lock her husband didn't give me his list so I Always Request give the bride and groom of there genres of music (Hip Hop R&B Reggae Reggaeton Top 40 etc) u name it (P.S. make sure it's super early like before the wedding comes up they can send u throw email or social media or pen paper what not) then u should be fine. Reading ur story its wow crazy experience and what ever the bride list was I'm sorry u had to go through that experience. But keep doing ur thing and keep on mixing man.
DJ DR FUNKJUICE I appreciate your advice. Sounds like you had a mess with them folks. Shakin it off n lettin it go. On to our next gig. Take care Doc!
hank shepherd same to u fam salute.
DJ DR FUNKJUICE Salute!
I've had something like that happen to me. To avoid loosing future clients in the audience, I usually will announce that the playlist is from the bride/groom and not me.
Man, the video quality/latency of this is far worse than your previous ones - audio is cool tho - thx 4 sharin ur knowledge
+DJ Free yeah, the quality is also worse because OBS didn’t record my stream this time so I had to download the FB stream and that’s way worse than the OBS recordings from the last episodes. The OBS recording path was set to my main external HDD, but because that drive wasn’t connected it failed to record. Things you learn by doing 😄😄
We’ll get there though. Couple more episodes and everything will be as good as I want it to be 💯
You ever get a group that don't dance, but sing along?
I'm looking at getting a cheap audio/midi interface does anyone have any suggestions?
Same here! I looked online and you have so many options nowadays.
I did buy a Zoom U22 last week, but that is mostly for being able to record for my podcast when I'm on the move. It's very portable. But it is severely limited as far as ins and outs so I would not buy that for the studio.
Advice for anyone looking for an audio interface: think about what it is that you need the interface to have. How many ins and outs, mic preamps, xlr, etc. What kind of connection? usb, firewire, thunderbolt, usb-c?
Once you figure that out, look for reviews of devices that meet your criteria (and fit your budget) and make a choice.
wish it wasnt choppy but good audio
Yeah, I still have a lot of issues with the streaming software (OBS). I'll be testing with others this week because the video stream needs to be better. I know it's not my connection because that tested just fine
DJ TLM TV great information!
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