How Much Fuel Should You Bring Backpacking? || REI

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  • If you’ve ever wondered if you really need to bring more than one fuel canister, this video is for you. In it, Katie covers how to plan how much water you’ll need to boil on your trip, how to test your stove to see how many boils you can get out of a full canister, and how to use all that info to figure how much fuel you’ll need pack.
    If you’ve got a bunch of half-empty canisters laying around, check out our video to see how much fuel is left in them: • How to Measure Caniste...
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Komentáře • 276

  • @aaalllen
    @aaalllen Před 4 lety +234

    Passing on some advice I got a long while ago: write the total weight in grams w/ sharpie at the bottom. Then at the end of each trip, do it again.

    • @toml.8210
      @toml.8210 Před 3 lety +4

      That's not a bad idea. It's about the same as she did in the video. After the trip, you can figure how much fuel (on average) for each boil by figuring the difference and dividing by the number of boils.

    • @5stardave
      @5stardave Před 3 lety +1

      I prefer ounces.

    • @aaalllen
      @aaalllen Před 3 lety +11

      @@5stardave HYOK... the net weight on my can says 3.53oz / 100g... one has easier math imo

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia Před 3 lety +7

      @@5stardave And that's fine but you get better precision with grams ...

    • @duckmeat4674
      @duckmeat4674 Před 3 lety +4

      @@3nertia that's...not how units work. Both can be just as precise...

  • @GregoryVeizades
    @GregoryVeizades Před 5 lety +136

    Really impressed that you mentioned the lack of stove Regulation. Not something the average shopper would know to think about.

    • @andrew40
      @andrew40 Před 10 měsíci

      I don't think that's true, though. The bulk of the fuel in the canister is liquid and the partial pressure doesn't change depending on how much is used. Assuming consistent temperature, the gas pressure is the same until very near the end when all liquid vaporized.

  • @AdventureOtaku
    @AdventureOtaku Před 4 lety +38

    This is really a sensational video.THANK YOU for calling out the caveats! You hit them all! This was indoors, no wind, unregulated stove. The only thing you didn’t mention was water temp! If you are using filtered water from a stream it is going to be COLD which will affect boil time. Great Video, thanks.

  • @BrettVano
    @BrettVano Před 8 měsíci +3

    As a newbie, this video knocked it out of the park. And I was really surprised at the attention to detail on the variables in this. The team on this video really covered their bases.

  • @TheDataDispatch
    @TheDataDispatch Před 5 lety +28

    Sure it's under ideal conditions, but the test gives a nice baseline. Thanks for the video. I prefer to carry esbit so I can take just the right amount of fuel and not have to carry around empty canisters, but this is a great starting point for thinking about how many canisters to carry for when I have to take the old MSR.

  • @hoozurmama883
    @hoozurmama883 Před 4 lety +10

    Very informative video. Sometimes REI stuff is too top level. I appreciate this one getting in the weeds but still making it very clear and concise.

  • @seaotter52
    @seaotter52 Před 5 lety +11

    There's no need to go to a full boil for most rehydration cooking. If you stop when you start getting a couple of bubbles on the bottom it will be plenty hot especially when you use a coozy. Depending on the food, I have the stove on less time, maybe 25-30% less. For hot chocolate I only heat till hot to the touch.

  • @aok5298
    @aok5298 Před 3 lety +17

    Thanks for talking in metric millilitres and grams. This is much more relatable for most of the world. Great vid, useful information 👍

    • @LydJaGillers
      @LydJaGillers Před 2 lety +2

      I have noticed more and more Americans using Metric nowadays. I really hope we do a full on conversion soon. It was supposed to happen in the 70s but we got lazy lol

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 Před 2 lety

      @@LydJaGillers communist. it's freedom units or nothing

    • @Roberta_Esposito
      @Roberta_Esposito Před měsícem +1

      🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @muskietime
    @muskietime Před 4 lety +10

    Well done. Right to the point, mentioned that there will be variables that impact “Real Life” and showed the math so users can draw their own conclusions.
    Appreciate that this was not a “Sales Pitch” (heck, even used an older burner!).
    Thank you.
    Subscribed

  • @legendofhyrule03
    @legendofhyrule03 Před 2 lety +1

    Math never makes sense to me. This was great. Wish I had a math teacher like you back in the day.

    • @rei
      @rei  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for watching, Ver! We're glad our video was able to help you out. 😊

  • @kirkw1740
    @kirkw1740 Před 3 lety +18

    So 27 min 30 sec to burn through 100 g of fuel with that setup. I'd be really interested to see a comparison of burn times and boil times for different burners and tanks. I'm also curious what position your valve was in, but assume it was fully open.

  • @321southtube
    @321southtube Před 3 lety +2

    Great job....good info. Please look past the "could of" "should of" "would of" gang. Mileage always vary...we're adults. Thanks again nice job, good vid and awesome data.

  • @jayesh5131
    @jayesh5131 Před 4 lety +5

    We need videos like this rather than comparing stoves. GD job 😍😍😍

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks to the G Works adapter, I always start any & all trips with a FULL canister of fuel. I don't have any partially empty canister laying around. When I return from a trip, I top of the canister until it is FULL.

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 Před 3 lety +2

    Very useful! I was about to do this on my back porch so thanks for saving me the effort. One of these will do 6 liters or about 25 cups of water. I can boil water for oatmeal and coffee and one of these will last me 12 days or 6 days if I have a dinner. Many thanks.

    • @rei
      @rei  Před 3 lety +2

      We're so glad this information was timely for you. Thanks for watching!

  • @user-yj5pm3gf8h
    @user-yj5pm3gf8h Před rokem +1

    This is a great video for helping kids learn division/ multiplication

  • @klaws2719
    @klaws2719 Před rokem

    Suuuuuuper video!!! If we could only have every video be this worthwhile. For this we can thank REI and cross our fingers for others to step up to the bar that has been raised. Until then…thank you REI for putting a ton of time and effort into a vid that was educational and enjoyable!

  • @dickmitchell7609
    @dickmitchell7609 Před 2 lety

    Thanks to you and REI for the informative video. Thanks, too, to those who contributed their knowledge on the effects of temperature, altitude, and wind. And for the suggestion to carry a full spare canister.

  • @gpwildcat77
    @gpwildcat77 Před 15 dny

    Incredibly helpful

  • @FIA55902
    @FIA55902 Před 4 lety +4

    Huge difference between boiling cold water in winter and boiling warmer water in summer. Obviously wind and altitude also play a role. It's probably more reliable to keep track of how long you've used a particular container, since assuming that the stove is burning full on, the time per canister should be relatively reproducible. Once you know that you get X number of minutes of burner time from a canister, you can just time each boil on the stopwatch on your phone, and keep a phone note of time used for the canister.

  • @mrq1701
    @mrq1701 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! The pot I use to boil water has a heat exchanger and it dramatically cut down on boil times. I always place the lid on the pot as well, which further cuts down on boil times.

  • @TDSudduth
    @TDSudduth Před 5 lety +5

    Nicely presented; excellent information! My results show about 3 minutes per boil for 500 mL (at 8,200 feet elevation). Complications as noted here and in comments are starting temp of water and wind, and not noted but critical, elevation. So bottom line, for minimalist, ultralight, 5-7 day section at 10,000 to 11,000 elevation with ONE canister I will start with one 3-minute boil per day (dinner), use wind screen, warm icy creek water in pack or even perhaps with body heat, then splurge on two boils per day in final two or three days. Comments?

    • @bradleyjohnson322
      @bradleyjohnson322 Před 3 lety +1

      I like hot breakfast and suppers. So i plan on two boils a day... i carry a altoids mini emergency stove in my pack for lunch or a mid afternoon drink. Start to finish about 9 min with set up boil cool down and crushing out the ashes. I also use aluminium foil for windstop and couple loose rocks as back stop. And 250 ml of water to drench the ashes.

  • @michelleshadel3146
    @michelleshadel3146 Před 4 lety +3

    Great video! Super helpful as I've been meaning to find the answer to this myself, thanks for doing the work for me! Same small collection of partially used containers in my gear...Sharpie tally marks on the bottom to keep track of # of boils will be my future plans. Thank you!

  • @glynnmorgan6422
    @glynnmorgan6422 Před 7 měsíci

    I just knew this was gonna be a science lesson. Just knew!!

  • @hankhager553
    @hankhager553 Před 11 dny

    I love your video thank you for that. It’s something that everybody should know and you do a great job of it. Thank you.

  • @JeremiahStringer
    @JeremiahStringer Před 5 lety +3

    Excellent video! Very valuable info to know before hitting the trail. Appreciate the vid!

  • @JohnFisk-OHS-78
    @JohnFisk-OHS-78 Před 3 lety +1

    As so many have said: Excellent video!
    Probably the best take home message - do your own homework if you tend to be OCD and want to be prepared. The alternative is to risk over- or under-resourcing. Admittedly, you can probably live without a stove for an entire through hike, but.. ***shudder*** who would want to. Hot caffeine in the AM fuels human existence. Experiment in your backyard and have some fun.
    Again, many thanks!

  • @StevenTorrey
    @StevenTorrey Před 4 lety +4

    Now that was helpful & practical!

  • @borg386
    @borg386 Před 2 lety

    Genius! Something I have always wondered. Now it's clear. Thanks!

    • @rei
      @rei  Před 2 lety

      Woohoo! Thanks for stopping by.

  • @trailkrum6750
    @trailkrum6750 Před 5 lety +3

    This is a decent baseline so long as you make sure to control for the temperature of the tap water; however, you'll want a much more conservative 'safety' margin than 1.25, preferably > 1.5 or even 2.0 if hiking in cold, windy conditions.

  • @TainoXtreme
    @TainoXtreme Před 5 lety +3

    It is a very good video. Very instructional. It took me a while to understand the technical aspect of backpacking but I’m doing better at it. Being blind makes it a little bit difficult but not impossible. What is your favorite field system for backpacking? Thank you so much for sharing this video. God bless you.

  • @sk8erdawg25
    @sk8erdawg25 Před 5 lety +1

    For all the people saying they use wood to boil water and don't use stoves, keep in mind that in some places it is illegal to have open fires. Also, during certain times of the year or after an extended period of time without rain it is also illegal. Thru-hikers use them for the first reason. Some places, like Harper's Ferry WV, you can't have open fires or stoves. That is because of a historical fire that occurred there I believe.

  • @Mossman4u2
    @Mossman4u2 Před rokem +1

    Also take into consideration that the water boils sooner at higher elevations.

  • @a.ramosakadrumgrl6677
    @a.ramosakadrumgrl6677 Před 2 lety

    I did a camping trip last week and barely had any fuel in one canister, it lasted me the entire trip, two breakfasts (including water for coffee and oatmeal, plus bacon for the first morning) and two dinners (boiling water and cooking meat). I was very impressed with my stove I used and how little fuel it took to feed me for the three days I was gone. I even had major windy conditions both evenings. I had a snow peak canister. I still took an extra canister with me, in case I ran out of fuel (No fires and no BBQs where I was camping, stoves must have regulators on them).

  • @larrys3341
    @larrys3341 Před 4 lety +20

    The starting temperature of the water was not included in the test which is an important factor as you are raising a given volume of water from a starting temperature to a boil. Mountain streams and lakes are cold!!

    • @brandonb.5304
      @brandonb.5304 Před 3 lety +3

      She said multiple times, "in ideal conditions." The implication was pretty clear that if the water is colder or if there's wind, it'll take longer to boil.

  • @mhitchner
    @mhitchner Před 5 lety +6

    I get a kick out of the people commenting and talking about how its a waste to bring fuel. Many places you go there is no fuel. What do you burn above tree line or in the desert? Lichen? Rocks? Sand? I also got a kick out of people saying fuel is a waste of weight yet they say they bring guns/ammo/axes/etc... talk about a waste of weight.... And there are plenty of places you are not allowed to(or shouldn't) collect fuel, like high alpine environments or arid regions where the vegetation is scarce, or in more populated parks with heavy traffic.

    • @suspicioustumbleweed4760
      @suspicioustumbleweed4760 Před 5 lety +1

      Yep. And don't forget you can have coffee and tea while still being in a sleeping bag and tent.

    • @RamaSivamani
      @RamaSivamani Před 4 lety

      I have a friend who doesn't bring a stove or fuel for trips 4 days or shorter. The majority of his calories is consumed in dry nuts. Cashews have the most calories per ounce out of all the nuts so he mostly lives on cashews during short backpacking trips.

    • @governmentghost01
      @governmentghost01 Před 3 lety +2

      @@RamaSivamani Imagine using the bathroom after only eating cashews, it'd feel like a saw movie

  • @RaineErasmusWalker
    @RaineErasmusWalker Před rokem

    This is a great video! I was just thinking about investing into a portable gas stove, I had no idea what a regulated stove was (the new MSR Pocket Rocket actually has this feature). Thank you ❤

  • @TheSJCieply
    @TheSJCieply Před 8 měsíci +1

    Please note that these numbers are when going around room temperature. You could be burning much more fuel in the winter.

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker Před 5 lety +2

    I agree, in most real world conditions, 10 boils of 500 ml of water per standard iso butane canister with an MSR Pocket Rocket us about right. And it also validates my inclination toward liquid fuel stoves for more than three days and if you like more than one hot meal a day. Light up the stove wars.....

    • @GregoryVeizades
      @GregoryVeizades Před 5 lety

      After getting a free MSR Dragonfly, I think i've found my perfect stove for me. I'm usually cooking for more than just myself, and it just made carrying one medium size fuel bottle for 3 days vs the 3 ISO canisters I used to to have to carry with my Whisperlite Universal. (Yes I know the Whisperlite can use liquid fuel) But the dragonfly is the better stove in my opinion.

  • @gdaymates431
    @gdaymates431 Před 4 lety +3

    I love these videos. So helpful!

  • @cmcer1995
    @cmcer1995 Před 5 lety +2

    Useful information. I think it would be good, if in doubt carry the old, use it up along with a new canister.

    • @rei
      @rei  Před 5 lety

      Hello! Glad it helped. If the extra ounces will be OK to carry, that is an option as well.

    • @carloszenteno
      @carloszenteno Před 5 lety

      @Click Bait Good question. Maybe it is a repost?

    • @santiagohills3997
      @santiagohills3997 Před 5 lety +2

      Click Bait REI Travel now offers trips to the recent past.

  • @WAltws-wh9do
    @WAltws-wh9do Před 3 lety

    Please don't forget that you can use your stove to start a warming fire. So pack extra lp always. It can save your life. Packing extra fuel weight is never a bad think. Thank You REI. Miranda Poops 😁

  • @heartbrkkid55
    @heartbrkkid55 Před 4 lety +2

    Great tips! I always bring more fuel than I prob should.

  • @edsmercina7157
    @edsmercina7157 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, very informative.

  • @surfing4theloveofit
    @surfing4theloveofit Před 2 lety

    Great presentation 👏 the way you explained this was simple and informative, well done 🥰 from rick Perth Australia 🇦🇺

  • @richblitz2964
    @richblitz2964 Před 3 dny

    A windscreen properly deployed will also help your fuel canisters last longer

  • @kenwbrenner
    @kenwbrenner Před 2 lety

    Nicely done, I was thinking to be safe, assume 10 boils of 16 oz of water for a 100g canister.
    I'm also going to assume 20 boils of 16 oz of water for a 220g canister, just to be safe.
    Thank you for the demo of this process!

  • @victorvasquez2788
    @victorvasquez2788 Před 5 lety +1

    about what I came up with. 10 boils right on. Thx for the info..

  • @MichaelLeopold1
    @MichaelLeopold1 Před 9 měsíci

    Helpful

  • @toddverbeek5113
    @toddverbeek5113 Před 10 měsíci

    An important factor is temperature: it takes significantly more time/fuel to boil water taken from a 40ºF mountain stream than water that starts at 70ºF.

  • @billseay6399
    @billseay6399 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Thanks big help

  • @georgebowman1060
    @georgebowman1060 Před 11 měsíci

    Awesome 👍

  • @conracewhatever5224
    @conracewhatever5224 Před 3 lety

    I love Cathy

  • @markcummings6856
    @markcummings6856 Před 4 lety

    Excellent video. Thanks.

  • @ronaldrose7593
    @ronaldrose7593 Před 5 lety +3

    Hello Katie, thank you for sharing this great information, very mathematical. Do you have a video which features an alcohol stove? You did an extremely fine job in presenting the information. Take care and be safe. 🤗

    • @BingWatcher
      @BingWatcher Před 4 lety +1

      That would be great to see, but I don't know if REI sells them!

  • @jamesrogers4674
    @jamesrogers4674 Před 3 lety

    I like to pack my 20 lb lp grill tank with a 1lb adapter hose, 1lb to butane stove adapter, and a jetboil.
    Did use a pocket rocket but the jetboil is way more efficient so the fuel lasts the whole weekend.

  • @martinpahl5652
    @martinpahl5652 Před rokem

    Nice video, but one fallacy here: The pressure in the canister does not continually decline. Most of the gas is in a liquid state and compensates for use of gas by some of the liquid turning into gas to compensate for the pressure drop. The effect of lower pressure when the canister is empty is caused by a drop in temperature. A liquid evaporating uses heat, so the temperature of the gas is lower than the liquid. The pressure of this gas/liquid system is lower at lower temperatures. If there is still a lot of liquified gas in the canister the sheer amount will compensate for the temperature drop. When the canister is nearly empty the temperature can't be compensated and you get the typical " cold canister"showing it will be empty soon.

    • @rei
      @rei  Před rokem

      This is what makes the community amazing. We appreciate the insight!

  • @tepanganiban
    @tepanganiban Před 3 lety

    I can’t like this video enough

  • @chaechong8199
    @chaechong8199 Před rokem

    Nice job! = THX

    • @rei
      @rei  Před rokem

      🙌😀

  • @GarGri
    @GarGri Před 3 lety

    Very pleasant young lady with a well reasoned argument regarding the usage I'll get from my canister which is the same (absolutely identical) as hers. But mine says 110g net. on the side. I nit picking here, she answered my question, I'm going out to buy another canister...

  • @Roberta_Esposito
    @Roberta_Esposito Před měsícem

    awesome

  • @willmcgrane6359
    @willmcgrane6359 Před 4 lety

    Excellent & very informative. Thank you!

  • @Red_Proton
    @Red_Proton Před 4 lety +2

    "Ideal conditions" inside makes for a nice baseline, but it's only one condition. Make some other baselines, too, examine the performance over the range of conditions with data points on: air speed, precipitation, temperature, and elevation.

    • @XJarhead360
      @XJarhead360 Před 4 lety +2

      www.mercatorgear.com has your answers. See comment above by the company 16 hours ago (today 7/28/2020)

  • @worldcitizeng6507
    @worldcitizeng6507 Před 4 lety

    Useful information @👍

  • @robertdepalma7321
    @robertdepalma7321 Před 4 lety

    Real rocket science,wow!

  • @renza481
    @renza481 Před 3 lety

    Some countries have free drinkwater points. The average hiker map have these marked. If you don't have 1 on your map go to the local information points. In the netherlands it's called vvv. It saves you gas if you want to drink or use something cold.

  • @Julus65
    @Julus65 Před 4 lety

    Wow excellent video,the explication are well done,thanks

  • @6BRENO6
    @6BRENO6 Před 4 lety

    Awesome video 👍🏻

  • @Choklar_
    @Choklar_ Před 5 měsíci

    I bought two of those small ones for my Wife and I and we've gone on three 4 night/5 day trips and they're both still kicking. I better check their levels, they gotta be getting close to being empty by now? They feel like they last forever though!

  • @stephenimsong3462
    @stephenimsong3462 Před rokem +1

    Just keep in mind this experiment showcases boiling water I’m assuming starting at room temp. Typically water i collect is always colder. I’d take the number if boils and multiple it by .75 to be safe. So 12 boils becomes 8-10

    • @twhis9843
      @twhis9843 Před 4 měsíci

      You’re on the money with that.

  • @dakine9445
    @dakine9445 Před 5 lety +1

    Jet boil is more efficient with fuel especially if just boiling water...however your I do like that msr set up

    • @pablobulldog
      @pablobulldog Před 5 lety +1

      I have a jet boil but didn't know it's more efficient. Do you know why and by how much? Thanks!

  • @wtr7
    @wtr7 Před 4 lety

    Great vid. Thank you!

  • @YankeeWoodcraft
    @YankeeWoodcraft Před rokem +1

    If she would've been my teacher in school, I would've gotten straight A's.

  • @santiagohills3997
    @santiagohills3997 Před 5 lety +3

    Whoa. This passes peer review! I was just working on this the other day, my conclusion was 1 can per person for a 5 day trip, assuming two .5L boils/day, then throw in a partial can for margin.
    Simmering pasta is a big variable, especially at altitude.

  • @naturecallsoutdoors
    @naturecallsoutdoors Před 5 lety

    I really like this type of video from REI. Great Job!

  • @journeysofsaltlick8596

    With my Pocket Rocket, I get 22 boils of 16 oz of water from 8 oz of fuel with my titanium pot. Use 20 as the planning number. Only boil for dinner to 8 oz from dinner and 8 oz soup or tea.

  • @donnajean72
    @donnajean72 Před 4 lety +1

    The side of my jet boil 100g can says 24 boils! I'm glad I saw this because what the heck. I'm not sure how much water was tested to make them come up with 24. Is real life literally half of what they are advertising?

    • @willek1335
      @willek1335 Před 4 lety +1

      They aquired testing water from a hot spring. 👻

  • @aeonthailand
    @aeonthailand Před 4 lety

    thank you helpful for me

  • @carrjeep7538
    @carrjeep7538 Před 5 lety +1

    The 230 gram canisters seem like they last forever. I only cook once a day but I had one canister go from Dunsmuir, CA to Trout Lake, WA and another lasted the rest of Washington when I was on the PCT last year.

  • @strangerous1313
    @strangerous1313 Před rokem

    Bring her back!

  • @ethanneff9817
    @ethanneff9817 Před 4 lety

    Here I am with a jetboil with too much fuel for every trip. I use the same canister for multiple mulit-day hikes

  • @kaseyhair6779
    @kaseyhair6779 Před 4 lety +3

    People should keep in mind that, although minimal, the amount of fuel lost between removing it from the burner and starting ignition can also play a factor in the amount of burn time and uses you will have...

  • @duybear4023
    @duybear4023 Před 4 lety +7

    REI needs to offer refilling services for these canisters. I'm sure they'd make money.

    • @walterronten8008
      @walterronten8008 Před 4 lety +3

      Nice, but you would probably need a stouter valve and stronger canister for it to work.

    • @oz-ng4tl
      @oz-ng4tl Před 4 lety +2

      These butane-propane canisters are structurally designed for single use. It would require to re-engineer a new canister/tank.

    • @wanderingcalamity360
      @wanderingcalamity360 Před 3 lety

      @@oz-ng4tl
      You say that like it's a bad thing.
      A thicker, stouter, reusable canister would easily be worth the weight and cost.
      Think about the added cost and waste of each new disposable canister that you need.

  • @jaybutera3353
    @jaybutera3353 Před 5 měsíci

    Any thoughts on how altitude might affect these calculations? At 10,000 feet, water boils at 194f, so it might take less fuel to boil. However, combustion might be less efficient due to reduced atmospheric oxygen.

  • @TyroneGrinada
    @TyroneGrinada Před 4 lety +10

    Practice cooking in your backyard before going backpacking outdoors.

    • @DerKatzeSonne
      @DerKatzeSonne Před 3 lety +1

      That assumes that everyone actually has a backyard...

    • @TyroneGrinada
      @TyroneGrinada Před 3 lety

      @@DerKatzeSonne cook in font of your house. The point I'm trying to make is practice.

    • @innawoodsman
      @innawoodsman Před 3 lety +1

      @@DerKatzeSonne I don't have a backyard. I just go to a local park if I'm testing a new stove. If the place has grills or firepits it's generally ok to do that there.

    • @DerKatzeSonne
      @DerKatzeSonne Před 3 lety

      @@innawoodsman Well... as someone who is a more introvert person, I dislike this idea quite a lot. Even more thinking about pitching a tent! Haha :D well, I tried the stuff in my parents' garden, even though they don't live next street. And sure, there are ways. Just wanted to point out it's not always that easy.

    • @kdstoffel7574
      @kdstoffel7574 Před 3 lety

      @@DerKatzeSonne Are you serious!? Practicing with your gear *before* your trip may be some of the easiest things a person can do in their lifetime. The world is full of challenges, practicing with one’s toys is hardly one of them.

  • @williemasonjohnson
    @williemasonjohnson Před 5 lety

    Cool informative video, thank y'all

  • @wisenber
    @wisenber Před 4 lety

    I prefer my Caldera Ti-Tri below treeline and white gas above. That way I don't have to worry about partial canisters, temperature, disposal.... Cookless in warmer months.

  • @dennissilverstein5677
    @dennissilverstein5677 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you do that in cups and not the british messerments ?

  • @olegmamontov5692
    @olegmamontov5692 Před rokem

    Thanks you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @LuckyTown77
    @LuckyTown77 Před 2 lety

    Some manufacturers' canisters give you 10 less boils per canister...why is MSR so inefficient compared to Coleman?

  • @toml.8210
    @toml.8210 Před 3 lety

    She is using the difference in weight between the fill can and after boiling 1/2 liter of water. If you use liquid fuel, you need to measure how many ounces of fuel you pour into the stove, then measure how many ounces are left after you boil once (or twice!)
    The time to boil the water doesn't factor into the amount of fuel used. It's just for knowledge. This experiment is only useful if you are camping at a site that's about the same elevation as the place where you do this experiment (at home.) If you climb mountains much higher than home, then you will need slightly less fuel for each boil (water usually boils faster at higher elevations.)
    The important point is to figure the amount (in grams or ounces) of fuel needed to boil the 1/2 Liter of water, then multiply by the number of meals for the total.

  • @joshuaheathcock7571
    @joshuaheathcock7571 Před 4 lety

    Great info REI. I just subed

  • @isaacdelgado7394
    @isaacdelgado7394 Před 4 lety +2

    Curious, wouldn’t the numbers be a bit closer if test was done outside ?

    • @ajw8383
      @ajw8383 Před 3 lety

      Not really, it would just add variables that can't be accounted for to the data (sporadic wind, outside temp, heating from direct sunlight) which would result in data that cannot be reproduced, and is largely useless. Better to figure ideal, cut it in half.

  • @russell2952
    @russell2952 Před 4 lety +1

    Always test with ice-cold water. At least where I backpack the water is stupidly cold.

  • @fabianmargarint7879
    @fabianmargarint7879 Před 5 lety +1

    This is a nice experiment. If it is exact, no it is not. One would have to consider the aptitude, wind factor, season, aso. But that is for us to add to the equation. So thanks for the videos, really helpful. Keep up the good work. From Romania with love! :)

    • @saminthewoods
      @saminthewoods Před 5 lety +1

      Fabian Margarint that's why you can count on 10 boils, not 12.

  • @dougdowney9737
    @dougdowney9737 Před 4 lety +1

    I take a fuel canister per 4 days plus a partial just incase. Boils have so many variables you cant math it out. Just take a little extra or eat cold food

    • @timonix2
      @timonix2 Před 4 lety +1

      I count 3 days per canister. But I also drink tea both morning and evening

  • @michaelbruchas6663
    @michaelbruchas6663 Před 3 lety

    She does a better job than Miranda in the Wild, REI…
    I learned something!

  • @dannyadventurer1172
    @dannyadventurer1172 Před 4 lety +10

    You also need to factor in wind & starting temperature. Your test water was at room temperature & not a freezing cold water stream.

    • @daveybernard1056
      @daveybernard1056 Před 4 lety +1

      It was a beginning. Not too rigorous, but at least makes backpackers BEGIN to think about the topic realistically.

    • @jeffm.2119
      @jeffm.2119 Před 4 lety +2

      She mentioned this at 2:30

  • @saminthewoods
    @saminthewoods Před 5 lety

    212 seconds for.5 liters.
    That's one second per degree for boiling point.
    Pocket rocket 2 does a full liter in 3 min.
    Thanks for this

    • @kevinholmes9982
      @kevinholmes9982 Před 5 lety

      check your math buddy there weren't 100 seconds in a minute last time i checked

  • @oepaga12
    @oepaga12 Před 4 lety

    really helpful, thanks for sharing.