Just returned to golf after a 12 year layoff. CZcams channels are amazing. Yours is one of the best. Thx for the fantastic content to get me back up to speed
I would honestly go thru a fitting like this, don’t show me a thing on screen, I don’t want to see a flight, and just find out what set up suits my swing with no adjustments on my part
Loved the idea of this test…but what do you think about the reality that the best v. Worst was just a difference of .75 degrees of loft? It seems surprising that off all the shots you hit, it was just a slight change in loft that created such a difference. I would have thought going upright or flat would have been more impactful.
Just a little note here to tell you.. just WOW, yess we all know here that your content is great but... as a director, I am very happy when I see high quality images and sound. And you Deliver! Thank you. Your content is good for my game and good for my eyes.!
I tried many different settings before landing on B1 for my driver and 3 wood. I do like that open face look. I get a baby fade with B1. I have my 3 hybrid set at D1. It just felt the best. You have to play around with the Titleist settings to find what's right for you. Great video, Matt!
One thing that goes overlooked in driver settings is that you can’t always rely on what the setting is actually going to do what is stated. That is because of something called “manufacturer tolerances” when these clubs are made. Often times loft and lie aren’t always what the manufacturer says they are, when you have to make 500,000 driver heads at 10 degrees of loft and a lie angle of 58 you can bet that they are not going to be perfect. Furthermore the adjustable neck needs to be precisely installed because it is based on very slight tilts to give you what the setting says. This is why you must try just about every setting on the driver because based on the standard numbers being slightly off it will affect those settings as well.
This is such a helpful way to find the right setting for a driver. You got to know what setting you can count on whether it fades or drawls you need to know
I’m a senior golfer, 78 who has lost some distance. In my younger days I fought a slice ,so with years of lessons and frequent playing, 100 rounds a year I managed to change my grip, stronger and alter my swing path. I now hit low hooks, which run along way but don’t go very high. I was tempted to change the loft on my Callaway Rouge ST Max from 10.5 to 12 but was told by a club fitter that would increase left bias. What’s the answer?
The two problems with that hosel are. 1. You have to use a chart to know what it means. 2. The settings turns the shaft and grip. Love the diversity of it but not the asthetics.
Excellent test and interesting outcome! When I was fitted for my PING G430 last year, the fitter tried every setting available on the hosel and six different shafts. It turned out that one setting (standard) with one shaft (Aldila new NVS) provided the best combination of distance and direction. It seems to me that doing these sorts of exercises are the only way to assess what works and what doesn't for the individual player.
Excellent content! I was interested to see what you would feel was the best out of the settings, and thought it was funny my results were the same. B4 with a 9* is my go to setting for consistent results. I use a Graphite design 70 gram shaft though. And although that setting is more fade bias, I still hit a draw as my natural shot shape with it. Thanks again for the content sir!
I would love to see this experiment as a blind study. Let someone else adjust the settings without you knowing what those settings are. I’m sure you’ll have an idea where the settings would be close to ,based on the club face, as far as draw or fade bias. Eyeballing loft and lie are a bit more difficult.
The good thing about Titleist adapter is its the same for both RH and lefty. The bad thing is you need the chart. I think Titleist should etch the chart on the sole of the club.... The left "std" is D4, however I play the A1 which is the RH std. Is it a coincidence that our preference is the same or a stuff up by Titleist as to std setting??
I have my 10 degree Titleist TSR2 set at C2, which is .75 upright and playing at 9.25 loft, which helps me hit a slight draw. When I was playing it at the A1 setting, I found that, on my misses, I was prone to hitting a spinny, high right shot from time to time. The slight upright setting helps me avoid the high right, and if I miss hit it, the result is a slight push shot that still stays in the "short grass."
Enjoyed the video, feel the break down was rushed. Could have listed your fav to least fav. Then charted best batch of hits to worst batch of hits and seen where they lined up.. think 15 more wins of video would have been great. I know it would make a much linger video but I think ur true fans would watch every second
I have a Darkspeed max. Position the ball just to the heel of the top alignment marker and keep the club face slightly closed. Changed the heal weight to 8g. Hozzle at standard 10.5 degree loft. That’s what works for me. Castle tees that gets my set height relative to club head height / width. And the rest is ball position setting and width of stance. I would assume everyone is a little different.
nice test, would have liked to see a complete comparisson of the results for each setting and a relation to how you predicted the outcome of each set. Maybe you can throw together a "short" video with the end results with numbers and flash the setting on the screen. if not, still an interesting video. Thanks
You should do this with a TSR3 so that way it has the slidable weight. Give you 5 slidable weight settings and 16 hosle settings so that’s what 16x5 so 80 different settings lol
It really would have helped if it were truly blind in the sense that a helper determines a random order of the 16 settings, and makes the adjustment, then hands you the club, perhaps with a wrap of masking tape around the hosel each time to hide the setting. Since you clearly know the settings you possibly could affect the results…. Yes?
Your brain still knows the settings pre-swing. Please grab a partner and have them make the changes without you knowing the settings. Then duplicate this test. You would not know the initial settings nor the results as you are performing the test. Then match the results to the settings and see what you have.
Why don't you put 1 or 2 - 4x8 sheets of plywood under the screen, with a 2x4 under the edge by the screen to make a slant board. Why shag balls all day when the ball can roll back to you.
Of course it doesn't. It's got far too few shots to make any statistical significance at all. That's the problem with all of these golf comparisons in videos, they are completely irrelevant because each of the results is so influenced by the person swinging.. you would have to do thousands of data points in order to see if there really was a difference. That's why we as a group are so easily marketed to, because no one ever tests anything correctly! For example, if you want to say that something is more forgiving how would you test it? Maybe put it on a robot and show us that it's more forgiving after hitting thousands of shots from the center and from the toe or heel? Do any of them do that, of course not. They don't have to, we buy the crap anyway!
@@stevenc9207when you go get fitted for a club, how many swings do you take? A hundred? Maybe 150? How many are with any one setup? A couple dozen at most? He’s not trying to sell you a product, or claim this is a scientific test. It’s entertainment, and an interesting topic that many people fiddle with themselves. Not that big of a deal
SG you need a high lofted driver. 9* ain't for folks swinging 99MPH swing speed. Try 10.5* better yet 12* and adjust down 1*. Thank me later. Maybe you need a better fitter
Just returned to golf after a 12 year layoff. CZcams channels are amazing. Yours is one of the best. Thx for the fantastic content to get me back up to speed
This blind test was excellent. And it's amazing how finicky golfers brains are. It seems like the more I play The more picky I get.
Because it's a numbers game and 1 or 2 makes a big difference..
The higher your skill level gets the more discerning you become.
I would honestly go thru a fitting like this, don’t show me a thing on screen, I don’t want to see a flight, and just find out what set up suits my swing with no adjustments on my part
Loved the idea of this test…but what do you think about the reality that the best v. Worst was just a difference of .75 degrees of loft? It seems surprising that off all the shots you hit, it was just a slight change in loft that created such a difference. I would have thought going upright or flat would have been more impactful.
Just a little note here to tell you.. just WOW, yess we all know here that your content is great but... as a director, I am very happy when I see high quality images and sound. And you Deliver! Thank you. Your content is good for my game and good for my eyes.!
This is very nice breakdown on how setting on Driver that will affect how well Driver will Perform for you.
Love you blind test video, it really helps to reduce that bias. Keep up the great work.
I tried many different settings before landing on B1 for my driver and 3 wood. I do like that open face look. I get a baby fade with B1. I have my 3 hybrid set at D1. It just felt the best. You have to play around with the Titleist settings to find what's right for you. Great video, Matt!
One thing that goes overlooked in driver settings is that you can’t always rely on what the setting is actually going to do what is stated. That is because of something called “manufacturer tolerances” when these clubs are made. Often times loft and lie aren’t always what the manufacturer says they are, when you have to make 500,000 driver heads at 10 degrees of loft and a lie angle of 58 you can bet that they are not going to be perfect. Furthermore the adjustable neck needs to be precisely installed because it is based on very slight tilts to give you what the setting says. This is why you must try just about every setting on the driver because based on the standard numbers being slightly off it will affect those settings as well.
This is such a helpful way to find the right setting for a driver. You got to know what setting you can count on whether it fades or drawls you need to know
You have some of the best tests on CZcams. Well done
I’m a senior golfer, 78 who has lost some distance. In my younger days I fought a slice ,so with years of lessons and frequent playing, 100 rounds a year I managed to change my grip, stronger and alter my swing path. I now hit low hooks, which run along way but don’t go very high. I was tempted to change the loft on my Callaway Rouge ST Max from 10.5 to 12 but was told by a club fitter that would increase left bias. What’s the answer?
At 78, the answer is to try XXIO in a 12 degree. Expensive, but you’ll love it.
The two problems with that hosel are. 1. You have to use a chart to know what it means. 2. The settings turns the shaft and grip. Love the diversity of it but not the asthetics.
So ideally you would get fit, find the setting that works best then get the shaft built.....
Excellent test and interesting outcome! When I was fitted for my PING G430 last year, the fitter tried every setting available on the hosel and six different shafts. It turned out that one setting (standard) with one shaft (Aldila new NVS) provided the best combination of distance and direction. It seems to me that doing these sorts of exercises are the only way to assess what works and what doesn't for the individual player.
Excellent content! I was interested to see what you would feel was the best out of the settings, and thought it was funny my results were the same. B4 with a 9* is my go to setting for consistent results. I use a Graphite design 70 gram shaft though. And although that setting is more fade bias, I still hit a draw as my natural shot shape with it. Thanks again for the content sir!
Love your reviews, I enjoy the pace and the sincerity of your views
Love this little test. Great.
I would love to see this experiment as a blind study.
Let someone else adjust the settings without you knowing what those settings are.
I’m sure you’ll have an idea where the settings would be close to ,based on the club face, as far as draw or fade bias. Eyeballing loft and lie are a bit more difficult.
Got my 9* TSR3 set on A2 with T1 BW setting! PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The good thing about Titleist adapter is its the same for both RH and lefty. The bad thing is you need the chart. I think Titleist should etch the chart on the sole of the club....
The left "std" is D4, however I play the A1 which is the RH std. Is it a coincidence that our preference is the same or a stuff up by Titleist as to std setting??
I have my 10 degree Titleist TSR2 set at C2, which is .75 upright and playing at 9.25 loft, which helps me hit a slight draw. When I was playing it at the A1 setting, I found that, on my misses, I was prone to hitting a spinny, high right shot from time to time. The slight upright setting helps me avoid the high right, and if I miss hit it, the result is a slight push shot that still stays in the "short grass."
Awwww dammit..... now I need a new Titleist driver.... look at what you've done!
Enjoyed the video, feel the break down was rushed. Could have listed your fav to least fav. Then charted best batch of hits to worst batch of hits and seen where they lined up.. think 15 more wins of video would have been great. I know it would make a much linger video but I think ur true fans would watch every second
we wanted the naughty jokes lol.
Brilliant video love the blind test 👍
I have a Darkspeed max. Position the ball just to the heel of the top alignment marker and keep the club face slightly closed. Changed the heal weight to 8g. Hozzle at standard 10.5 degree loft. That’s what works for me. Castle tees that gets my set height relative to club head height / width. And the rest is ball position setting and width of stance.
I would assume everyone is a little different.
Most players have a LOFT problem. Lack Of F'ing Talent.
It’s me your talking about 😂😂
Your mom has a LOFT PROBLEM
Great video! I love how you script and edit as well.
Loving these blinds tests you’re doing lately 🎉
Great video! Can you do a video on set up for taller golfers ? Every video on CZcams talks about the normal size golfers 🏌🏿♂️
nice test, would have liked to see a complete comparisson of the results for each setting and a relation to how you predicted the outcome of each set. Maybe you can throw together a "short" video with the end results with numbers and flash the setting on the screen. if not, still an interesting video. Thanks
Enjoying the new blind testing you’ve been doing
Trying to dial in a draw and I’m noticing the weights on the head are doing more than expected
You should do this with a TSR3 so that way it has the slidable weight. Give you 5 slidable weight settings and 16 hosle settings so that’s what 16x5 so 80 different settings lol
My favorite setting on my Ping G425 seems to be +1/2 a degree. I do tend to pull my drives and this setting seems to help
That would close the face though
you should make a video showing how to use the nex belt, i bought one, cut it, but the buckle just slides off...
Love the driver jazz. Nice choice
So odd that B-4 and C-4 are so opposite even though the only thing changed was .75 of loft.
Face angle changes
Great test!
It really would have helped if it were truly blind in the sense that a helper determines a random order of the 16 settings, and makes the adjustment, then hands you the club, perhaps with a wrap of masking tape around the hosel each time to hide the setting. Since you clearly know the settings you possibly could affect the results…. Yes?
You are the the best,
Great idea
16 thank yous!
Love this
B4 is magical
It would be nice if we all had a simulator
Re-elect the Pres, he will send you one.
I agree, definitely re-elect JB, the only real, sensible option !!
Your brain still knows the settings pre-swing. Please grab a partner and have them make the changes without you knowing the settings. Then duplicate this test. You would not know the initial settings nor the results as you are performing the test. Then match the results to the settings and see what you have.
Why don't you put 1 or 2 - 4x8 sheets of plywood under the screen,
with a 2x4 under the edge by the screen to make a slant board.
Why shag balls all day when the ball can roll back to you.
C4 and B4 is almost identical. Maybe just bad shots
C4 and B4 have only 0.75 degrees of decreased loft, the study doesnt make sense
Of course it doesn't. It's got far too few shots to make any statistical significance at all. That's the problem with all of these golf comparisons in videos, they are completely irrelevant because each of the results is so influenced by the person swinging.. you would have to do thousands of data points in order to see if there really was a difference. That's why we as a group are so easily marketed to, because no one ever tests anything correctly! For example, if you want to say that something is more forgiving how would you test it? Maybe put it on a robot and show us that it's more forgiving after hitting thousands of shots from the center and from the toe or heel? Do any of them do that, of course not. They don't have to, we buy the crap anyway!
@@stevenc9207when you go get fitted for a club, how many swings do you take? A hundred? Maybe 150? How many are with any one setup? A couple dozen at most?
He’s not trying to sell you a product, or claim this is a scientific test. It’s entertainment, and an interesting topic that many people fiddle with themselves. Not that big of a deal
SG you need a high lofted driver. 9* ain't for folks swinging 99MPH swing speed. Try 10.5* better yet 12* and adjust down 1*. Thank me later. Maybe you need a better fitter
It makes no sense that B-4 and C-4 are the best and the worst
How blind is it really, I would know what each setting does from studying Titleist hosel chart 🤔
I've been playing factory settings for 20 years..
That title is a dick move 😅
Sorry about your math issues. That's 64 total different settings, not 16. And a lot more testing, and a lot more ball hitting.
A1, A2, A3, A4, B1, B2, B3, B4, C1, C2, C3, C4, D1, D2, D3, D4.
Those are the only possible settings. 16 in total.