"NOBODY SAW IT COMING" | Richard Jefferson On Playing With Young Steph and Klay

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2023
  • In this clip, Richard Jefferson talks about playing with young Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green on The Golden State Warriors. He talks about the impact he had on their young careers and if he ever thought they could become this type of dynasty.
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Komentáře • 960

  • @JJRedick
    @JJRedick  Před rokem +52

    Obligatory full episode link! czcams.com/video/dAdQCzvwYSE/video.html

    • @b-radg916
      @b-radg916 Před rokem +3

      GREAT clip JJ … I’ll check out the full interview!

    • @Primenumber19
      @Primenumber19 Před rokem

      Question… why do we all pretend Draymond hasn’t had the yips for five years?

    • @jadengregg4832
      @jadengregg4832 Před rokem

      No

    • @I_love_burnt_toast
      @I_love_burnt_toast Před rokem

      It's so sad that a team that won by spending more than everyone else and by lucking into playing only injured teams could change the game, especially since they played the weakest style by shooting mostly 3s.
      The warriors deserve blame, not credit for pussifying the league.

    • @b-radg916
      @b-radg916 Před rokem

      @@I_love_burnt_toast: So why is Steph Shaq’s favorite player? His play was anything but pussified.

  • @DawryMike
    @DawryMike Před rokem +2637

    That mid 2010s Warriors squad became the model for pretty much every team in the NBA. It was bizarre seeing one team in real time force the entire game of basketball to shift.

    • @mikemikeyee
      @mikemikeyee Před rokem +183

      The dominance then was so mouthwatering.

    • @akeembrown7661
      @akeembrown7661 Před rokem +195

      Felt like our lifetimes Jordan’s bulls. I never thought I would see a once a generation type team

    • @b-radg916
      @b-radg916 Před rokem +69

      Their brand of basketball made me want to watch the game again. The only reason I don’t think I’m a Warriors bandwagon is that the last time I was into basketball was when I was a kid watching Nate Thurmond and Rick Barry! #Dubs 👊🏽

    • @felix3033
      @felix3033 Před rokem +25

      No they didn’t lol the 2014 Spurs did .

    • @felix3033
      @felix3033 Před rokem +16

      @@akeembrown7661 Spurs ??

  • @olivermichael7152
    @olivermichael7152 Před rokem +1328

    I gotta say this, the best thing about this podcast is there is absolutely no cutting the other person off, you say your piece then they do. JJ you’re an amazing host

    • @phillipparedes6444
      @phillipparedes6444 Před rokem +12

      Very true

    • @Handle9
      @Handle9 Před rokem +25

      That's a fact I sometimes find myself looking for a different podcast with the same guest for that reason lol.

    • @romerobryan83
      @romerobryan83 Před rokem +7

      Cuz they were both very smart players

    • @bradzukerman9141
      @bradzukerman9141 Před rokem +4

      💯 It’s not always horrible for a host to interject gracefully interject, but there are some hosts who just seem absolutely incapable of giving their guests any space whatsoever, and it’s awwwfulllll. [lookin at you David Aldridge 👀]

    • @Jamesah
      @Jamesah Před rokem +1

      ​@@romerobryan83 yep and cuz they are smart they are asking good questions and giving good answers...

  • @kendalldavis6082
    @kendalldavis6082 Před rokem +752

    The most underrated part of Steph’s game is his stamina and endurance. He has the lungs of a professional cross country runner. And that’s what makes him such a threat off ball even well into his 30s. So many players talk about how drained they are after having to run around the court guarding him off ball.

    • @kevindelavega3746
      @kevindelavega3746 Před rokem +64

      Fr, even after packing on at least 10 lbs of muscle

    • @yg2522
      @yg2522 Před rokem +106

      Steph litterally put delavodova in the hospital by just running him into the ground.

    • @boondockbwoy14
      @boondockbwoy14 Před rokem +8

      Facts

    • @Ahmari223
      @Ahmari223 Před rokem +20

      @@yg2522 facts that’s crazy

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +62

      Curry doesn’t even look winded after running so much

  • @fahmyboy1
    @fahmyboy1 Před rokem +602

    When he said “I forgot you were here” to Tommy 😂😂

  • @henrywitherspoon8064
    @henrywitherspoon8064 Před rokem +637

    I'm glad RJ mentioned David Lee he's very underrated

    • @mlee4467
      @mlee4467 Před rokem +51

      He used to put up nasty numbers with the knicks

    • @H0tDawgWater911
      @H0tDawgWater911 Před rokem +2

      💯

    • @dogshxtgames3257
      @dogshxtgames3257 Před rokem +6

      mad underrated

    • @arco718
      @arco718 Před rokem +4

      I know most recent all stars, however I had never even heard the name David Lee before this video

    • @terrancecarmichael619
      @terrancecarmichael619 Před rokem +14

      @@arco718 Damn go back and watch some highlights. I wasn’t old enough to watch him in his prime but when I started watching 2011-2012 he was still pretty good on the Warriors.

  • @kbar5821
    @kbar5821 Před rokem +684

    One of the most amazing things about Steph's career arc is that he could (and should) have won Most Improved Player in 2016 after winning the MVP in 2015!

    • @ReggieRob
      @ReggieRob Před rokem +6

      FACTS! It was unbelievable to see

    • @themomofmemes467
      @themomofmemes467 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Then lost a 3-1 lead to LeBron. So improved! Def MVP

    • @12tac0cat21
      @12tac0cat21 Před 10 měsíci +19

      ​@@themomofmemes467reminder that 3-1 is also stephs record against lebron in the finals

    • @themomofmemes467
      @themomofmemes467 Před 10 měsíci

      @@12tac0cat21 Reminder that it's 2-1. One of those doesn't count

    • @mrkickinthesky
      @mrkickinthesky Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@themomofmemes467 the mvp and most improved is a regular season award,you stop the season at conference finals,steph would have overtaken lebron,it was at the finals lebron proved himself to be still the best by leading everyone in all 5 major categories,but dont pretent like it didnt went to 7 games to the final posession,kyrie had to hit that super clutch 3 ,they needed the suspension vs draymond ,otherwise it would have ended in 5,and kyrie and bron had to play out of their minds in the final 3 games,while steph underperformed,be it cause of injury or mind games,but all that and it still went to a game 7 ,only loosing by one posession,you needed one of the best,if not the best player,your 2nd best player to play historically good,league interference and warriors injuries to the inside ,just to win by one posession in 7 games,i dont think its a shame,it hurts but if you take in all those factors...

  • @cwflet01
    @cwflet01 Před rokem +837

    That "What if David Lee never got injured" is without question the BIGGEST what if. In hindsight, it completely changed basketball.

    • @listeinn
      @listeinn Před rokem +10

      like their opponents didn't get injured... give me a break lol

    • @cwflet01
      @cwflet01 Před rokem +236

      @@listeinn what does the opponents injuries have to do with what I’ve said? Guess you just needed to get something off.

    • @TheRipePunani
      @TheRipePunani Před rokem +146

      @@listeinn Bruh you completely missed the point lmao

    • @aaronhutchinson885
      @aaronhutchinson885 Před rokem +84

      You're right. I've said this for years..he doesn't get injured. We don't see Point Draymond, thus we don't see Steph the way he is now

    • @TheColdest510
      @TheColdest510 Před rokem +1

      Blessings in disguise tbh

  • @thorfinnthegoatmc
    @thorfinnthegoatmc Před rokem +217

    20 years from now we will still be talking about the greatness of Steph Curry

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem +10

      and off each player. We tend to take lightly the fact that they broke the Bulls 72-10 record. Everybody said that record would be untouched.

    • @andystrub7930
      @andystrub7930 Před rokem +11

      20 years from now? That's an insult to Steph. As long as basketball is being played and people are talking about it Stephs name will be a part of the game just like Kareems, Kobes, Larry's, Magics, Michael's, etc...He is in that class of greatest players of all time and will always be talked about as such.

    • @thorfinnthegoatmc
      @thorfinnthegoatmc Před rokem +3

      @@andystrub7930 FACTS BRO ALSO CURRY >>>> MAGIC when its all said and done

    • @BalanceBalls
      @BalanceBalls Před rokem +1

      Steph and these Warriors will be talked about until the end of times no doubt 💯

    • @yerik6034
      @yerik6034 Před 11 měsíci

      If people still talk about kareem, bill Russell, wilt and bird, curry will be talked about till the end of time

  • @ABruhMan
    @ABruhMan Před rokem +145

    I love Curry stories man, dude really changed the NBA

  • @rockjm9876543210
    @rockjm9876543210 Před rokem +1076

    That 73 win season was draymond's best offensive season. Dude was a legit 3rd scorer.
    14 ppg, 9.5 rpg, and 7.4 apg. While shooting 38% from 3.

    • @chinoxSD
      @chinoxSD Před rokem +225

      The fact draymond was also the best defender on that team and could switch legitimately 1 thru 5 and still be consistent on the offensive floor ...that was peak green thru year 2015-2019

    • @samknight9825
      @samknight9825 Před rokem +49

      What’s insane is that he’s still insane on defense and can still hold his own on the offensive end

    • @therealsoeazy
      @therealsoeazy Před rokem +126

      Say what you want about Dray, but you slot prime Draymond on any all-time team and they are always going to get better - he is the perfect glue guy.

    • @aa-jx5zz
      @aa-jx5zz Před rokem +6

      Playing 2k with that team small ball 1st 5 out line up curry klay Iggy barnes and green🙌👍💯

    • @philliposkaypaghian
      @philliposkaypaghian Před rokem +43

      Draymond could’ve averaged that for a couple more years but once KD joined he obviously was gonna be the fall guy, i feel like those years stunted his growth as a shooter/scorer

  • @allonisaacs8765
    @allonisaacs8765 Před rokem +380

    Crazy to think RJ played with Steph, Klay, and Draymond!

  • @qqw743
    @qqw743 Před rokem +356

    "Would Draymond be as good on another team" can easily be answered by watching him in international play. In Tokyo for example, KD was the obvious scoring leader, but Draymond was doing everything else like he always does. Elite NBA players on the team were on the bench so that USA could have Draymond's defense, passing, picks, intensity, etc.

    • @kpkafle
      @kpkafle Před rokem +96

      I noticed in the Olympics if Team USA was having problems and started losing in games. Coach Pop would put Draymond in to stabilize and change the momentum of the team. He knew that Draymond would make the right and simple plays. International rules basketball is so different than NBA basketball but Draymond had the confidence and respect of his team mates. The three best players for Team USA were Durant, Jrue Holiday and Draymond in a team that included Booker, Tatum and Lillard. It's not that these players were not good but the older guys were more experienced and could adapt their game better to international rules.

    • @WidgetWagyu47292
      @WidgetWagyu47292 Před rokem

      @@kpkafle damn I wish I had watched live I missed the Team USA Olympics run

    • @theressakimbrough2867
      @theressakimbrough2867 Před rokem +29

      Agreed! People really underestimate Draymond's bball IQ. Dude is hella smart!

    • @getmoneychill6462
      @getmoneychill6462 Před rokem +14

      In the great words of Stephen A Smith Draymond is a basketball savant

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr Před rokem

      not just IQ but PEDIGREE. Pedigree is everything

  • @goldenstatewarriors9418
    @goldenstatewarriors9418 Před rokem +105

    Always be grateful to Jerry West for making sure they didn’t trade Klay.

    • @jordanbarclay4434
      @jordanbarclay4434 Před rokem +1

      When we’re they going to trade klay

    • @renenhfule
      @renenhfule Před rokem +10

      @@jordanbarclay4434 for Kevin Love in 2014 before the Cavs did. Deal would've been Kevin Love for Klay and Harrison Barnes

    • @tindao7708
      @tindao7708 Před rokem

      @Brian Charleston he worked as an advisor with golden state. He protested against the trade

    • @Deathnote819
      @Deathnote819 Před rokem +10

      Jerry west was a consultant with the team at the time and he threatened to leave his job if they traded klay and west was helping lead roster decisions at the time and they didn’t want him to go bc he was the architect behind 2-3 dynasties in the past so they listened

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +1

      @Brian Charleston Jerry West told the Warriors “if you trade Klay, I quit”

  • @bobwiegers
    @bobwiegers Před rokem +163

    RJ is a unique mix of super insightful, kinda funny, and a great big jerk. great interview.

    • @SoulDuJour
      @SoulDuJour Před rokem +19

      Totally agree, but it's like necessary jerk to make the insightful part funny

    • @dre32pitt
      @dre32pitt Před rokem +3

      RJ is the type where if he's not capping on you, it's because he doesn't like you..

  • @patrickwilliamscoaching
    @patrickwilliamscoaching Před rokem +97

    Those warrior teams were so crazy fun to watch. The perfect blend of players with Livingston, Iggy, Bogut, the role players were so locked in.

    • @noahdaugherty8235
      @noahdaugherty8235 Před 9 měsíci

      Locked in and committed to their roles. That was key. No one had an ego, no matter how many years played, accolades achieved, or minutes they used to get. Steph helps set that tone I think with his unselfishness

  • @JSmith-kh4vo
    @JSmith-kh4vo Před rokem +154

    I wish RJ could be a part of the podcast with you guys the chemistry is there.

  • @quilenblackwell4820
    @quilenblackwell4820 Před rokem +48

    Richard Jefferson is the definition of being unapologetically HIMSELF and literally not caring what anyone thinks about him. Makes him a great pundit and media personality!

  • @shaquilhoskins3078
    @shaquilhoskins3078 Před rokem +129

    I love Steph bcuz he made me sound like BBall philosopher bcuz his run in the March Madness was my 1st time watching college ball and I told all my friends he’s goin to change the league he proved me right thanks so much Steph 🙏🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @chinaskibukowski7747
    @chinaskibukowski7747 Před rokem +178

    In an interview Andrew Bogut confirmed Draymond was asking to get traded off the team because Jackson rarely used him. That David Lee injury not only gave Draymond the opportunity to play more it also ensured Draymond didn't traded. Jackson really had no idea how to use Green.

    • @sratnatozmrde
      @sratnatozmrde Před rokem +11

      many coaches dont have any idea how many gems they have on team and how to work with them.

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 Před rokem +6

      And other players on that team. Jackson is a good coach to hire after a team has stunk for a while…But not to keep long term

    • @JuliettKilo
      @JuliettKilo Před rokem +1

      @@newagain9964 Jackson is one those coaches that can bring their team to playoff but no any further, like Doc River.

    • @vinnyl264
      @vinnyl264 Před rokem

      @@JuliettKilo doc river won a title…

    • @JosepinoRizal
      @JosepinoRizal Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@vinnyl264yes but he have the most blown 3-1 lead too.

  • @MrFraiche
    @MrFraiche Před rokem +75

    RJ speaks at the right intelligent level that JJ needs on the channel.
    This should be the new Stephen A and Skip. Real basketball talk, not a bunch of angry dudes talking nonsense.

  • @jahper3426
    @jahper3426 Před rokem +16

    Gotta be the most articulate duo in basketball media.

  • @abyan63
    @abyan63 Před rokem +25

    This was so refreshing to watch, by the time I knew it the video was done. No grown men yelling, no interjecting, allowing the others to clarify their theories, intelligent basketball IQ! One of the best basketball podcast out there, along with AllTheSmoke
    Podcast. Well done!

  • @John-ct9zs
    @John-ct9zs Před 11 měsíci +13

    I remember back around 2015 it felt like the Steph/Klay Warriors just came out of nowhere, shooting from all over the court. They completely changed the game. In 2012, 2013, it was still the old NBA, with the Spurs, Heat still competing, and other teams like the Kobe Lakers and Dirk Mavericks were hanging around. Then all of a sudden, almost overnight the league changed in 2015 with the Steph/Klay Warriors.

  • @5N0023
    @5N0023 Před rokem +28

    7:49 "I forgot you were here."
    Bro why did RJ do him like that 😂💀

  • @jpete3027666
    @jpete3027666 Před rokem +11

    I’ve been a warriors fan for 30 years and I thought that early Steph/Klay team was good and they’d be a playoff team for years but I never thought they would be championship caliber. I’m still amazed.

  • @careymahoney4058
    @careymahoney4058 Před rokem +8

    "I forgot you were here."
    "It happens. Frequently."
    Poor Tommy, lol

  • @damonfranklin1351
    @damonfranklin1351 Před rokem +30

    I’ve gained much more respect for Steph’s career as it’s gone by. I’ll be honest that I used to be a nonbeliever but he’s so special. Glad I grew up in this era of basketball

  • @butlar265
    @butlar265 Před rokem +20

    People don't credit Draymond enough for figuring out what to do to compliment the shooting of both of them

  • @Justjo3223
    @Justjo3223 Před rokem +12

    Warriors fan here from before and after the we believe team. Everything they touched on is true. Been a blessing getting to witness this from our home team

  • @duffman1876
    @duffman1876 Před rokem +20

    I always say this!!! Real one's remember da early G-State in 2K12-14😅😅🍻🍺

    • @jordanbarclay4434
      @jordanbarclay4434 Před rokem

      Mark jackson is a max genius I never thought curry would be that good not after those injuries either nobody really expected him to be that if they tell the truth I mean first unanimous mvp you thought that would be Lebron or kobe or Kevin but curry at the time no never seen it coming

    • @dadagaming1260
      @dadagaming1260 Před rokem

      I started to become a fan since B Davis and J richardson we believe era

    • @LilBoSkeetE85
      @LilBoSkeetE85 Před 2 měsíci

      Reals ones became a GS fan the day Steph was drafted.

  • @sftheletters
    @sftheletters Před rokem +24

    RJ is right. Where the Warriors truly changed basketball is by proving teams could win championships with a small ball 5. Dray was/is savvy enough to guard bigger players, and Steph & Klay would torch teams that rolled out multiple big men on switches. That versatility made them a dynasty. Obviously Steph is the catalyst of it all, arguably a top 5 player of all time but Draymonds versatility also made them nearly unbeatable.

    • @dre32pitt
      @dre32pitt Před rokem +3

      It's the perfect mix.. two all-time shooters and a all-time 'glue/defense first guy'.. Props to GS front office.. When they said 'light years..', they weren't joking, lol.. Injuries and the rest of the league caught up with them.. but Steph is arguably better now, than then.. Older.. wiser.. but more importantly, STRONGER.. he's yolk'd now and has the wind of an Ethiopian long distance runner.. His game will age like fine wine (Klay's too) as he can just sit in the corner and provide spacing for the Poole/Kuminga PnR in the future..

  • @rlawson598
    @rlawson598 Před rokem +17

    Game four of last year's finals defines Steph for me. The way he can will or carry that team to win sometimes despite what Klay or Draymond are contributing. In his full-on Batman mode, anybody can be his Robin. He and Wiggins were in basketball nirvana in that series. Steph will always be the catalyst..

  • @sebthelobster
    @sebthelobster Před rokem +21

    Individually, Steph dray and klay have all glaring weakness in their game.
    But together it’s just a beautiful thing. Almost like a perfectly balanced D&D team designed to take down whatever monsters coming their way.

    • @ezyryder11
      @ezyryder11 Před 4 měsíci

      Except the Lakers in the 2023 playoffs. Sad 😢 until then, they never lost a series when all together and healthy

  • @jerryking2194
    @jerryking2194 Před rokem +9

    One of the greatest modern era basketball clips

  • @ballislife1616
    @ballislife1616 Před 11 měsíci +3

    It’s amazing looking back what the Warriors accomplished, and they’re still going. Gives me that nostalgic feel 🥹

  • @SirGenesis206
    @SirGenesis206 Před rokem +9

    Steph is absolutely a shooting guard that sometimes plays point. And good on the coaches for seeing that, sticking with Draymond, and letting him loose.

  • @RedE4NBA2K
    @RedE4NBA2K Před rokem +28

    Honestly you could see Steph was gonna be an offensive juggernaut if he could just stay healthy, obviously not to the level he has become, but Klay I felt really came out of nowhere.

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 Před rokem

      No you couldn’t.

    • @RedE4NBA2K
      @RedE4NBA2K Před rokem +2

      @@cheerioss-9121 yes you definitely could. I thought him and Brandon Jennings were gonna be the next generation of future star PGs. We know what happened with Jennings, but the potential was there for both of them. Never thought Steph was gonna change how basketball is played obviously, but point is u knew he was gonna be offensively one of the best players in the league if he stayed healthy, because the only thing stopping him early in his career were his constant ankle injuries.

  • @yaMamaStillLuveMeTho
    @yaMamaStillLuveMeTho Před rokem +4

    As a real life long warriors fans I loved this conversation and how they explored and understood the full trajectory we took...they hit the nail on the coffin! With so many points and aspects..I talk about about of these different subjects with the warriors all the time....great convo!

  • @Stardust414
    @Stardust414 Před rokem +2

    I thoroughly enjoy the 2 of you together. I’ve long been a fan of JJ (I’m a lifelong Duke fan 🤷🏼‍♀️) but RJ has really grown on me the past few yrs and yes, I’m a Warriors fan 🙌🏼

  • @arshdeepkaur3377
    @arshdeepkaur3377 Před rokem +2

    Thankyou for giving a shoutout to my favourite basketball trio of all time! Love my Dubs and love ya guys for this 💕

  • @chefjonsf
    @chefjonsf Před rokem +31

    As a lifetime Warrior fan, I never saw it coming. I thought Steph would be a great roll player at best. Unbelievable.

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +2

      As a fellow lifelong Warrior fan, I thought he’d be a great statistical leader on yet another sub 500 Warriors squad. So glad I was wrong.

    • @xembones
      @xembones Před rokem +4

      at the time I was telling people that they should trade him for picks and try to draft Austin Rivers.. good thing im not a gm😅

  • @Jollighe
    @Jollighe Před rokem +29

    The death lineup was so lethal it was scary and fun to watch at the same time.

    • @boondockbwoy14
      @boondockbwoy14 Před rokem

      The Hampton 5..Steph, Klay, Draymond, Iggy, Bogut

    • @cy3000
      @cy3000 Před rokem +3

      @@boondockbwoy14 Hampton 5 was with KD because they recruited him at a meeting in a Hampton, no?

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem

      @@cy3000 Correct. Bogut was the dubs starting center, but was never a part of the Death lineup nor the Hampton 5.

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem

      It felt like every time was just scared/angry at them. They would give it their all and still lose.

    • @peterthegreat100
      @peterthegreat100 Před rokem

      @@cy3000 yes, the Hampton 5 lineup was Steph, Klay, Draymond, KD & Iguodala

  • @easymoneyrad
    @easymoneyrad Před rokem +1

    Love dray and jj’s pdocast, they just know how to talk and interview and dissect the game and players

  • @RealRoryVLOGS
    @RealRoryVLOGS Před rokem +1

    I love hearing people talk about basketball who really kno what they’re talking about 💯

  • @NoVisionGuy
    @NoVisionGuy Před rokem +6

    I immediately joined the Warriors bandwagon in 2014, I knew that team would be magical.

  • @Qharisma
    @Qharisma Před rokem +14

    I love RJ .... I actually loved him as a player ... but even more as a commentator ... I need friends like RJ.

  • @GenghisClaus
    @GenghisClaus Před rokem

    i could listen to these two talk basketball literally forever

  • @RoLLUpAFat1
    @RoLLUpAFat1 Před rokem +2

    Feels good to live that decade and witness the shift in the NBA. Dubs 🎉

  • @IconicClipsForYou
    @IconicClipsForYou Před rokem +3

    So much intelligent insight of basketball here.

  • @jordanb.4514
    @jordanb.4514 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Richard is a top 3 guest of yours in my opinion

  • @MARISSAFEHERRADURA
    @MARISSAFEHERRADURA Před rokem

    I enjoy your podcast a lot because you are both articulate and insightful thus easy to listen to.

  • @hoppy23
    @hoppy23 Před rokem +13

    Steph isn't a pg like steoh said himself call me whatever you want regardless of position he's one of the best basketball players the game has ever scene and he actually creates more looks for his teammates on and off ball combined then anyone in the league

  • @aidancullen852
    @aidancullen852 Před rokem +8

    I tear up a little when draymond gets his flowers man I love it

  • @RockyTucsonPaik
    @RockyTucsonPaik Před rokem +1

    Great content! Thanks for posting

  • @NZV13
    @NZV13 Před rokem +2

    Im not a big fan of GSW and this era of basketball but i remember just telling to a friend that the warriors were something we never saw 1 or 2 years before steve kerr arrived...
    They were spectacular back then

  • @mithicash1444
    @mithicash1444 Před rokem +7

    On the contrary, my Highschool coach saw it coming in 2011. His number one emphasis when shooting was a quick release. We had drills where all we practiced was quick release. Looking back that is what Steph and Klay thrived on

  • @Itz_Marni-_-
    @Itz_Marni-_- Před rokem +6

    7:29 I feel the same way bout ky, that says a lot about how good steph is at PG. To JJ’s last point that’s y they have 4 rings, individually would thrive but grew and still r together.

  • @marcbrown6084
    @marcbrown6084 Před 2 měsíci

    I love hearing people that sound so smart about a thing that I don’t feel inadequate bc they are just that good

  • @BrenttttttMCMXC
    @BrenttttttMCMXC Před rokem

    this is the best podcast i watched at this day in JJ youtube👍🤭

  • @gsp3428
    @gsp3428 Před rokem +18

    If they traded Steph instead of Monte, there is no warriors.

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 Před rokem

      Bucks would’ve been the dynasty with Giannis and Steph

    • @gsp3428
      @gsp3428 Před rokem +1

      @@cheerioss-9121 Would they have been able to draft giannis. If you had giannis and steph on the same time, at least now they would be hard to beat. It took Giannis about 4 years to really become a great player though.

    • @cheerioss-9121
      @cheerioss-9121 Před rokem

      @@gsp3428 It’s actually scary how these time tables actually match up, lmao.
      Monte gets traded in 2012. Steph has ankle problems very early in his career so it’s in play that the bucks definitely are still bad enough to get a top pick. Giannis is drafted just one year after this deal haha.
      So if Steph ankles continue to be the problem that’s a plus for the bucks.
      You say it took Giannis four years to really develop.
      Steph doesn’t break out and really become Steph until 2015. That’s 2years with Giannis on the team.
      Steph and Giannis if they just develop and build the team correctly literally would’ve both been hitting their primes at similar times

    • @gsp3428
      @gsp3428 Před rokem

      @@cheerioss-9121 Yeah that would be pretty amazing, they are actually the two most improved players that have ever played. I didnt think Steph would even make it in the league when he came to the NBA, and then he was a pretty good player his first 4 years,and developed into in my opinion the greatest point guard ever. Giannis was a guy who you might have thought would maybe make a couple all star teams at his peak when he developed, but in my opinion is one of the greatest players ever, could be the GOAT if he ever developed an consistent jumpshot which he is convident in. But a steph and Giannis team would be better than Kobe Shaq or Jordan and Pippen in my opinion.

  • @letmediecast
    @letmediecast Před rokem +35

    The "not understanding why Draymond is a valuable" trope is THE dividing line between people who watch basketball and people who understand basketball.

    • @janicerichards8959
      @janicerichards8959 Před rokem +2

      No lies told here Dear❤❤❤

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +5

      It’s funny when I see people STILL say Draymond is useless or that all he does is kick people in the nuts.

    • @user-gm5gc1be4w
      @user-gm5gc1be4w Před rokem

      He’s useful but at times he’s emotions can negatively affect the team. I.e 2016 suspension, fighting KD, and Poole punch

    • @user-gm5gc1be4w
      @user-gm5gc1be4w Před rokem +1

      I still rock with him though but if he keeps a lot of these antics up I won’t be surprised if he’s gone as his play declines and he gets older.

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem

      @@user-gm5gc1be4w yes when he lets his emotions take over, it can negatively affect the team. OP’s point is when people don’t understand his value, all they see are his flaws and lack of scoring.

  • @justinoliver4053
    @justinoliver4053 Před rokem +2

    Every all time great had elite teammates. People need to constantly be reminded that this at the end of the day is a team game.

  • @JoseVargas-bs8gx
    @JoseVargas-bs8gx Před rokem

    what a fantastic convo.

  • @yonisbadar2129
    @yonisbadar2129 Před rokem +8

    I watched Golden State back then the same way I watch the thunder rn

  • @TheGallant9
    @TheGallant9 Před rokem +7

    They played like the Bad Boy Pistons, Zeke, Joe and Vinny were interchangeable at the 1 and 2 spot. The difference is that Steph was really benevolent in sharing the ball. Even if you wanna call him a 2 guard the guard wants to have the ball in his hands and Steph was willing to come off the ball for people to get touches. That's a real General. Richard always tryna find ways to diminish Steph with back handed compliments. Even tho it's Larry Bird folks always find ways to say LeBron is the Best Small Forward ever but don't mention he scores primarily at the rim, he doesn't space the floor and is a horrible free throw shooter to be at the wing position but no one ever calls him a undersized Center or Power Forward. They always try to find passive aggressive ways to hate Steph, especially anyone who played on that Cavs team, weather its Bron making Steph and Klay tombstones to step over at his party, weather that's Richard Tristan or Kendrick hating on him on NBA networks. The only Cav who didn't hate on Steph was Tye Lue who came out and said they still Doubled Steph even with KD on the Floor and even KD finds ways to shade Steph on social media, he got mad about that

    • @sauldula
      @sauldula Před 4 měsíci

      It's not a diss, it's a fact. Steph's movement off ball was their most effective offense. When he ran point you could trap him in the pick and roll, off ball there was damn near no defense for iggys smart cuts, and drays passing with the defense jumping at every steoh and klay curl

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 Před rokem +1

    2:07 Very endearing use of that phrase.

  • @BlackroastTerrierfinches
    @BlackroastTerrierfinches Před 2 měsíci

    I would live for JJ and Jefferson to have their own show on ESPN. Both arent boring and well spoken 👏 👌

  • @adanomics5997
    @adanomics5997 Před rokem +11

    Mark Jackson seen it coming.

  • @saycheese6773
    @saycheese6773 Před rokem +5

    I feel like Klay slightly changed his shorting form post injuries. You can tell their is a slight difference.

  • @bw7754
    @bw7754 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Saw him play at the socon tourney right before his first run in the NCAA’s. Everyone in the gym knew he was special

  • @hansolodolo1672
    @hansolodolo1672 Před rokem +6

    I saw it coming in 2013. All they needed was a healthy Bogut the whole time. They would've had more championships. It's only a hypothetical now.

  • @jarrensleezluis3878
    @jarrensleezluis3878 Před rokem +5

    Exactly daymond needs more recognition for playing the 5 at 6’6

  • @Marekeb
    @Marekeb Před rokem

    Dang my two fav analysts together

  • @joshcook
    @joshcook Před rokem

    That series is when I became a warriors fan

  • @philbuttler3427
    @philbuttler3427 Před rokem +3

    I think Steph now would be good on any team but Steph when he came in the league idk he clearly had the stuff there to be good but I really believe every top player has the potential to be great and it's coaches and orginizations that see it and know what to foster to get them there. Like Steph and Steve Kerr were perfect for each other like Tim Duncan and Pop were and it took the absolute confidence Kerr had in Steph to get him the opportunity he excelled at. So idk if Steph would be the same player if he went to a team coached by say Larry Brown who hated 3s and just didn't use them.

  • @jorgeparada8101
    @jorgeparada8101 Před rokem +5

    To put in perspective, Rudy Fernandez held the record for most threes in a season as a rookie until Curry came out.

  • @ChrisTreborn
    @ChrisTreborn Před rokem

    Yo. This is what we’ve been wanting to hear.

  • @funguy2380
    @funguy2380 Před rokem

    Watching that 2014 and 2015 of drop coverage on that warriors team was hilarious to watch

  • @shondarby-mcconnell1502
    @shondarby-mcconnell1502 Před rokem +3

    Shoutout to RJ for talking about David Lee people forget that man was A hopper and I bet they keep him over Draymond if the injury doesnt happen

  • @RunitsFox
    @RunitsFox Před rokem +9

    If Steph trained he could probably got to the Olympics for the Mile 😭 🔥

    • @gregoryharlston0602
      @gregoryharlston0602 Před rokem

      You’re insane! If you really think that, then you don’t understand how good/fast those guys are! Steph would get SMOKED!

    • @RunitsFox
      @RunitsFox Před rokem +2

      @@gregoryharlston0602 smh I clearly said if he trained , your a goofy if you don’t think a professional athlete can’t be trained for other sports .

  • @edsondepina8430
    @edsondepina8430 Před rokem

    JJ AND RJ 🔥🔥🔥🔥, 2 great minds , the pod would be much better with you two

  • @miquelangeloliver7626
    @miquelangeloliver7626 Před rokem +1

    These two guys are articulate

  • @MauricioSouza-93
    @MauricioSouza-93 Před rokem +6

    People hold up LeBron and Giannis as examples of dominance these days, but Stephen Curry is in that category as well. I AM NOT putting Stephen over LeBron and Giannis, but since he debuted in the league, he dominates the league, not physically like Giannis and LeBron, but talent. It's been a decade and they still can't stop Curry, that's dominance too. He changed the game and it's been ten years and he's still one of the best and unstoppable.

    • @Ntwolf1220
      @Ntwolf1220 Před rokem +5

      Absolutely. Dominance doesn’t have to mean physical dominance like Lebron and Giannis

    • @countertenorflor2107
      @countertenorflor2107 Před rokem +3

      lebrun has never dominant the league, dude needs at least an elite squad to begin with 😂 and he gets away with his travellings and flagrant fauls all the time!

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem +2

      I know its your personal setting but in reality Steph and Bron are at the same level. Giannis still has time to get there but come one now.

  • @bigpimpin3098
    @bigpimpin3098 Před rokem +9

    RJ is dead wrong on Steph being a shooting guard. What makes Steph so lethal is that as soon as he crosses half court with the ball, he's a threat to pull the trigger. This stretches the defense out and helps other players get open. He is also the best off the dribble shooter ever, so you wouldn't see that as much if he was a shooting guard.

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem

      He said he plays more similar to a shooting guard. Steph is literally a modern pg.

  • @Idkyou89
    @Idkyou89 Před rokem +1

    I remember playing college hoops 2k8 and I would use Davidson because I watched a few of stephs college games and I was like damn this kid is good I wanna use him in a video game and then he ends up being the greatest shooter to ever live!

  • @oudadhakim1857
    @oudadhakim1857 Před rokem +1

    This is the first time I questioned whether jj was the smartest basketball mind on the podcast, and I'm all for it!

  • @cineglasses
    @cineglasses Před rokem +3

    7:49 me too RJ lmaoo

  • @brewer921
    @brewer921 Před rokem +5

    The first jump shooting team to win a title was the Dirk Mavericks.

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem +1

      I mean it was just Dirk going beast mode.

    • @circlebox3
      @circlebox3 Před rokem +1

      So if that's your arguement, could I say 2008 Celtics was also a jump shooting team because the big three KG, PP and Ray are all good at shooting the ball? I don't think that alone makes them a jump shooting team, right?

    • @brewer921
      @brewer921 Před rokem

      ​@@circlebox3 Do you really think I'm just talking about Dirk? I called them the Dirk Mavericks as a way of describing the 2011 Mavericks. As a whole, they were a jump shooting team. I would not consider KG a jump shooter.

    • @brewer921
      @brewer921 Před rokem

      @@alejandroserrano7755 and Kidd, Terry, Peja and DeShawn Stevenson hitting jumpers.

  • @zionplays2918
    @zionplays2918 Před rokem +1

    The way he holds the pen like he's actually noting or writing something down is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Born2Win7774
    @Born2Win7774 Před 2 měsíci

    "They were moving faster than the defense can act" that perfectly encapsulated that 73-9 team, their movement was truly a work of art that has yet been replicated.

  • @jacobboen7611
    @jacobboen7611 Před rokem +5

    I remember Draymond getting benched in the first finals and Lee saving the day

    • @kbar5821
      @kbar5821 Před rokem +1

      He didn't save the day, they lost Game 3 but what he did show Dray during that loss was the way to attack the Cavs PnR coverage was to make quick decisions on the short roll to press the 4 on 3 advantage. Worked perfectly in Game 4 along with the lineup change and the rest is history.

  • @dewshr
    @dewshr Před rokem +4

    By RJ definition joker is a point guard

  • @tapone6621
    @tapone6621 Před rokem

    I did💯 Peeped it 2013... The Warriors franchise shaped Klay into the shooter he is today due to lack of athleticism compared to Ellis who they traded a season or two before Klays arrival

  • @gators9570
    @gators9570 Před rokem +5

    “Shooting guard who can play point” no man he’s an all time great point guard and all time great shooting guard

    • @OGSVN
      @OGSVN Před rokem

      this.
      RJ stands on this hill of “steph isn’t a PG” and CLEARLY can’t understand the difference between a primary and secondary ball handler.
      is kyrie not a pg bc he let lebron/luka operate on the ball? is murray not a pg bc he lets the offense run through jokic? of course not.
      the pg’s #1 job is to do what’s best for the team - and id argue that NO ONE understands that better than steph.

  • @ebilimmiri
    @ebilimmiri Před rokem +3

    Even Klay knows Steph is the God shooter. Good try RJ

    • @stonedecatur6602
      @stonedecatur6602 Před rokem

      What? Klay is 11th all time in three pointer made

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem

      @@stonedecatur6602 Klay knows his own value, but has openly admitted Curry is the best shooter of all time

  • @MidnightMouse
    @MidnightMouse Před rokem

    Aw Tommy😂. I can relate brother don’t worry…

  • @415garcia
    @415garcia Před 10 měsíci

    Watching this now after the CP3 trade, I’m excited to watch the dubs with Steph, Klay, and CP3 on the court. Let’s go dubs!

  • @kevinjames60
    @kevinjames60 Před rokem +7

    I still think Steph is the catalyst for the game changing. Without Stephs elite shooting, Klay be another great shooter and Dray would be a defender without that playmaking

    • @lorddj9910
      @lorddj9910 Před rokem +2

      Vice versa

    • @butlar265
      @butlar265 Před rokem +1

      @@lorddj9910 True. Without the spacing both of them provide and the intelligence of Draymond with those passes the game doesn't sway to shooting as much

    • @bagchaser326
      @bagchaser326 Před rokem +5

      @@lorddj9910 nah because Steph is also a great ball handler and has vision. Klay doesn’t have handles and draymond can’t space the floor… Steph is the main reason for all of it lol

    • @alejandroserrano7755
      @alejandroserrano7755 Před rokem

      I think its a mixture of everything.
      Those guys individually are great players but together? Unstoppable.
      They implemented so many things. Shooting 3s, small ball lineup, quick fast break points, good defense, etc.

    • @jeffhardy6333
      @jeffhardy6333 Před rokem

      You have to throw in Harden and Rockets. I think more teams use their model than the Warriors. They changed the game just as much imo

  • @gsp3428
    @gsp3428 Před rokem +3

    Warriors would have won even if they traded Klay for Love. As long as Steph was there they can win.

    • @setsen941108
      @setsen941108 Před rokem +2

      L take, keep forgetting about Game 6 Klay and third quarter Klay. Klay don't play, Klay is one of the fundamental player game has ever seen, comparing him to Love is disrespectful Curry is Curry because Klay was around to knock those 3's.

    • @gsp3428
      @gsp3428 Před rokem

      @@setsen941108 Klay is a great player, no doubt, and he has had some legendary performances and he is a pressure player who has come up huge in many games, I will be the first to say that. Klay is a shooter, one of the best ever. But he cant create his own shot, he isnt a very good passer or ball handler. Steph was to the warriors what Jordan was to the Bulls what Giannis is to the bucks, now if you take Pippen or Drue Holiday off those teams and replace them with other guys you wont win as many rings or be as good, but Without jordan or steph or Giannis, those teams dont go anywhere.

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +1

      Klay’s shooting and defense >>>> Love

    • @gsp3428
      @gsp3428 Před rokem

      @@hypocritetrollbot7729 Klay's defense is so overated, not sure why people always talk about it, The only way we can truly measure someones defense is by looking at statistics of players when they played against him and their averages. Team defense is much more important than individual defesne. I can name 10 shooting guards I would take ahead of Klay right now at least, maybe more.

    • @hypocritetrollbot7729
      @hypocritetrollbot7729 Před rokem +1

      @@gsp3428 lol your comment was about the Love and Klay trade and you’re going to base it off of how Klay is playing now? Why don’t you go look at how Love is playing then? Before his injuries, Klay always guarded the best opposing guards and consistently did a good job at it. Team defense? Of course that’s important! But remember you’re the one here talking about individual players in Love and Klay