The Sino Soviet Split: Explained

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    The Sino-Soviet Split was an important point in the Cold War whereby China and the USSR accused each other of being completely fake Communists. Thus they both threw a bit of a fit and refused to talk to each other anymore until the USSR died. Does anyone even read these?
    Sources:
    The Role of Foreign Affairs in the Fall of Nikita Khrushchev in October 1964 by Paul Du Quenoy
    Mao and China's Relations with the Superpowers in the 1950s: A New Look at the Taiwan Strait Crises and the Sino-Soviet Split by Michael M. Sheng
    Competing for Leadership: Split or Détente in the Sino-Soviet Bloc, 1959-1961 by Danhui Li and Yafeng Xia

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  • @peffiSC2source
    @peffiSC2source Před 4 lety +8796

    Love how after Khrushchevs arrival, Stalins picture in the Kremlin turns into a cob of corn.

    • @Jame5man
      @Jame5man Před 4 lety +733

      Pretty much sums up destalinisation

    • @19MAD95
      @19MAD95 Před 4 lety +353

      Ohhh that explains what that drawing was, but I don’t understand why Corn on the cob was chosen

    • @SloveneAnon
      @SloveneAnon Před 4 lety +904

      Khrushchev had a well known fetish for corn. "Socialism can't be built on American wheat" as he said.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před 4 lety +601

      @@SloveneAnon Ironically corn originated in the Americas.

    • @JonSnowize
      @JonSnowize Před 4 lety +143

      C O R N L O R D

  • @Alex_FRD
    @Alex_FRD Před 4 lety +7106

    Meanwhile, Mongolia was sweating profusely.

    • @suomi5475
      @suomi5475 Před 4 lety +384

      🇷🇺: \/ _\/
      🇲🇳: O___O
      🇨🇳: /\ v/\

    • @geraldclydeabella3350
      @geraldclydeabella3350 Před 3 lety +61

      @CharlieRobloxKerbal Sukhbaatar

    • @roxylius7550
      @roxylius7550 Před 3 lety +158

      @Jin Bin Ong well, mongolia was already invaded and occupied by Qing dynasty for several hundreds year

    • @ipodtouch495
      @ipodtouch495 Před 3 lety +268

      *Mongolia when it sees the two nuclear armed regional powers on its northern and southern borders goading each other*

    • @sedukai5924
      @sedukai5924 Před 3 lety +139

      It was a Soviet satellite

  • @Zevzs727
    @Zevzs727 Před 4 lety +3704

    2:11 I love how Peoples is just stamped on the Republic of china

    • @77777Spooky
      @77777Spooky Před 4 lety +129

      I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.

    • @minedor
      @minedor Před 4 lety +240

      Zevzs it’s because the PRC replaced Taiwan (Formally known as the republic of China) in the UN Security Council in 1973

    • @LLLLLLEON216
      @LLLLLLEON216 Před 4 lety +30

      Minedor if you look at their passports they are still The Republic of China

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Před 4 lety +83

      China is heading toward a capitalistic ethno-fascism confusiciusm state like Mussolini.

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Před 4 lety +37

      Han supremarcists, chinese ultranationalists

  • @rileyh520
    @rileyh520 Před 4 lety +3209

    Not even gonna mention how Mao, knowing Khrushchev couldn't swim, made him meet in Mao's pool room and basically made the Soviet leader doggy paddle and struggle to stay above water

    • @scamanmagiccarp1932
      @scamanmagiccarp1932 Před 2 lety +346

      wait that really happen??!!! jeez that's both questionable but funny

    • @virgiljianu7166
      @virgiljianu7166 Před 2 lety +529

      @@scamanmagiccarp1932 Yes, he did it in revenge because he wasn't allowed to see Stalin on one of his birthdays, I think (can't remember which one). From what I read about the meeting, it was basically just Mao swimming in laps while Khrushchev was sitting knee deep in water with a ,,fuck me' face.

    • @user-cx1ki8li4t
      @user-cx1ki8li4t Před 2 lety +89

      Khrushchev wanted to build a monument in China to commemorate Russian generals in the Russo Japanese war. The Russo Japanese war is a war between Russia and Japan in China. Mao was aware of the yellow race. He felt very uncomfortable, so he thought of a way to bully Khrushchev.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul Před 2 lety +26

      @@user-cx1ki8li4t also why would China want a monument to utter incompetence built there?

    • @louleetah
      @louleetah Před 2 lety +11

      Mao x Khruschev

  • @GTgaming69
    @GTgaming69 Před 4 lety +4245

    Kruschev: *tries to avoid nuclear war with the US*
    Mao: “aight imma head out”

    • @Ismavolt
      @Ismavolt Před 4 lety +181

      He also kinda fucked the economy.
      Not that Mao was any better.

    • @michaelinsomanywords3647
      @michaelinsomanywords3647 Před 4 lety +2

      loser

    • @POCLEE
      @POCLEE Před 4 lety +382

      “I’m not afraid of nuclear war. There are 2.7 billion people in the world; it doesn’t matter if some are killed. China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left.” - Mao

    • @KOIFishcat
      @KOIFishcat Před 4 lety +74

      @@POCLEE fucking idiot

    • @KOIFishcat
      @KOIFishcat Před 4 lety +15

      @@gabriel.b9036 thanks! This is actually what I always thought.

  • @ilnur9973
    @ilnur9973 Před 4 lety +2705

    The Sino-Soviet relations be like
    ***THUMP***

    • @allanjbucknol4414
      @allanjbucknol4414 Před 4 lety +1

      Lol

    • @fromthewreckage
      @fromthewreckage Před 4 lety +38

      They came down with a bad case.....of death. *thump*

    • @cudanmang_theog
      @cudanmang_theog Před 4 lety +13

      Today there no actual communist or socialist country in the world, expect Cuba.

    • @sebastiantetsuya6879
      @sebastiantetsuya6879 Před 4 lety +9

      @@cudanmang_theog *I agree this*

    • @deezeed2817
      @deezeed2817 Před 4 lety +6

      My mother was of partial Russian descent and they allowed my father to carry a weapon but not her but they wanted her to spy on the Russian community in China. When my grandmother heard this she was pissed off. So when they say that these socialist countries didn’t have racism then I can tell you that’s not true.

  • @SleepySheepy99
    @SleepySheepy99 Před 4 lety +608

    2:25 Ah yes the great Soviet leader
    Corn

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario Před 3 lety +737

    Change stuff
    No.

  • @peteranderson037
    @peteranderson037 Před 4 lety +1407

    Fun fact: the Fleetwood Mac song "Go Your Own Way" was not actually about Lindsey Buckingham's break up with Stevie Nicks, but actually about the Sino-Soviet split.

  • @explosivefiend9008
    @explosivefiend9008 Před 4 lety +2012

    I have always wanted to know why Yugoslavia split from the Eastern block after WW2

    • @klm2639
      @klm2639 Před 4 lety +734

      Tito got rid of the Nazis on his own, so by 1945 there weren't any Red Army units in Yugoslavia and that was key in not being a Soviet puppet. So Yugoslavia was always part of the eastern block just never direct Moscow control, same with Albania

    • @kalyka98
      @kalyka98 Před 4 lety +205

      Because you either obey stalin or become his enemy

    • @juanmfernandez5123
      @juanmfernandez5123 Před 4 lety +182

      Yugoslavia was neutral in the cold war, and they hate stalin

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide Před 4 lety +169

      Tito had multiple assassination attempts against him which failed.

    • @explosivefiend9008
      @explosivefiend9008 Před 4 lety +69

      Thanks lads for answering my question it is much appreciated

  • @cooperrush6474
    @cooperrush6474 Před 4 lety +630

    3:05 The Sino-Soviet Split absolutely did affect China to a significant degree. Khrushchev pulled all technical advisers out of the country and the complete lack of trade that followed stunted China's development for two decades. Furthermore it's arguable whether the catastrophe of the Great Leap Forward would've even happened if there was no split.

    • @user-cx1ki8li4t
      @user-cx1ki8li4t Před 2 lety +40

      Thank you. In fact, Khrushchev has been paying attention to China and the Soviets have tried to give advice. These things are recorded in Khrushchev's memoirs. This is mainly caused by China's nationality and the whole external environment. There were many student movements in the 1960s and 1970s. Chinese scholar Wen Tiejun believes that this is because China can not solve the employment problem of students, and the world market is not mature, and the employment of workers and farmers is also a problem. Due to the characteristics of Chinese character, this problem has a great impact in China. This problem was finally solved by Deng Xiaoping in the 1990s. Now China is trying to develop Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia because it is afraid that the world market can not meet China's employment needs. In the Mao era, Mao put forward this strategy. China should unite all poor countries to make progress together, but Mao could not achieve this goal.(谢谢你,事实上赫鲁晓夫一直关注着中国,苏联人也试图给意见,这些事被纪录在赫鲁晓夫回忆录中。这主要是中国的民族性和整个外部环境造成的,在上世界60-70年代,学生运动非常多。中国学者温铁军认为,这是由于中国解决不了学生的就业问题,以及世界市场并不成熟,工人和农民的就业也是个问题。由于中国性格特点,导致这个问题在中国的影响非常巨大。这个问题最终由邓小平在1990年代解决。现在中国努力发展非洲和拉丁美洲以及东南亚,就是害怕世界市场无法满足中国的就业需求。在毛时代,毛就提出了这个战略,中国应该联合所有穷国,一起进步,但是毛无法完成这个目标。)

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini Před 2 lety +8

      @@user-cx1ki8li4t Latin American here, instead of developing, it's just colonialism by selling us cheap products while keeping the corrupt politicians in power.

    • @sophisticatedthumb5364
      @sophisticatedthumb5364 Před 2 lety +4

      @@LuccianoBartolini Ah yes selling plastic toys=colonialism
      I bet you think the US helped free latin America

    • @LuccianoBartolini
      @LuccianoBartolini Před 2 lety +5

      @@sophisticatedthumb5364 XD
      Try more "cheap cellphones, bridges, busses, constructions" among many more.
      If you want to make a good "gotcha" argument, at least put some effort beyond a straw man that's irrelevant to the main argument.

    • @sophisticatedthumb5364
      @sophisticatedthumb5364 Před 2 lety +28

      @@LuccianoBartolini Yeah I can tell you clearly enjoy military coups and economic sanctions more. No wonder latin America remains poor till this day

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron Před 4 lety +4555

    China: we're the real communists around here
    Also China: *proceeds to be the main manufacturer for capitalist countries"
    Ghost of Marx: wait, that's illegal!

    • @Omegan101
      @Omegan101 Před 4 lety +280

      Without the USSR to challenge them, and Socialism in the West having no centralizing or commanding voice whatsoever, China is in a position to claim what it likes really.

    • @blackgold754
      @blackgold754 Před 4 lety +40

      They still have a communist party

    • @rebecca4680
      @rebecca4680 Před 4 lety +401

      DJ Grandpa . A “communist” party. It may be named communist, but it damn sure isn’t in reality.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 4 lety +114

      They saw how sticking to the book (i.e centralized controlled economy) and then going to a newer system instantly (perestroika and glasnost) is a killer. PRChina tried to keep on the Maoist track with the Gang of Four but Deng sees the realpolitik need to "reform". This is just the CCP trying to maintain power in a post Cold War world...

    • @user-uq1wq2mz2q
      @user-uq1wq2mz2q Před 4 lety +81

      @@Omegan101 China is not interested in anything, only interested in development, development and development. . . .

  • @theKeshaWarrior
    @theKeshaWarrior Před 4 lety +1175

    The split is probably the reason China has survived because unlike most other Communist countries, it didn't need huge amounts of foreign aid from the USSR to function.

    • @lmao.3661
      @lmao.3661 Před 4 lety +193

      They also love capitalism

    • @Chadmeleon
      @Chadmeleon Před 3 lety +21

      @brandon you are wrong on every level

    • @superduperfreakyDj
      @superduperfreakyDj Před 3 lety +37

      @brandon That is just like a childlike understanding of politics and history mate

    • @superduperfreakyDj
      @superduperfreakyDj Před 3 lety +12

      @brandon smooth brain

    • @fallout560
      @fallout560 Před 3 lety +6

      @brandon let me guess, you complain about chinese tourists while saying it's a slave nation?

  • @April_a26
    @April_a26 Před 4 lety +1447

    Last time I was this early mao was forcing me to make steel in my backyard

    • @ayindephulgence4950
      @ayindephulgence4950 Před 4 lety +83

      you must produce steel

    • @April_a26
      @April_a26 Před 4 lety +123

      @@ayindephulgence4950 not again

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 Před 4 lety +80

      Mao proved it was possible to produce negative economic output. He set everyone to making steel with no equipment or training, they produce pig iron instead that had to be resmelted before it could be made into something useful.

    • @ayindephulgence4950
      @ayindephulgence4950 Před 4 lety +8

      @Jay Blake they do not wish to know the fact comrade

    • @TPerm-hj4sf
      @TPerm-hj4sf Před 4 lety +13

      I got a steel rod available for all beautiful communist ladies.

  • @nikolaytsankov9066
    @nikolaytsankov9066 Před 4 lety +742

    Last time I was this early
    I was running away from the KGB

    • @WilliamDiep
      @WilliamDiep Před 4 lety +6

      U r rly funny congrats

    • @makeromaniagreatagain9697
      @makeromaniagreatagain9697 Před 4 lety +5

      Last time I was this early, I war running from the Red Guard

    • @utku1441
      @utku1441 Před 4 lety +7

      Nikolay Tsankov in soviet russia there won’t be a next time if you are running away from the KGB

    • @acebalistic1358
      @acebalistic1358 Před 4 lety +2

      Last time I was this early these videos were 10 minutes long

    • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
      @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Před 4 lety

      Keep running my man. The KGB may be dead but its operatives are still out there.

  • @Armorius2199
    @Armorius2199 Před 4 lety +869

    When are you going to release the Orthodox view on Protestantism?

    • @issacarellano9909
      @issacarellano9909 Před 4 lety +17

      Argyrus 47 been wondering about that for awhile

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc Před 4 lety +62

      As an orthodox i think that this question was long awaited by absolutely everybody.

    • @randomalien7746
      @randomalien7746 Před 4 lety +69

      @@aver_nestress4570 Catholics are extremely conservative as a religion and protestantism allows more freedom. If we're talking about history then Catholics used to pay to the church for their sins which is absolutely retarded.

    • @thayff2401
      @thayff2401 Před 4 lety +19

      I don't think there are many people here in Russia who even know's what is Protestantism. In fact our "orthodox" people don't care about religion at all, most of them openly hates patriarch and church, I even heard that like 30% of people that claimed to be orthodox said that they don't believe in god

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 Před 4 lety +56

      @@randomalien7746 orthodoxies are even more conservative hen Catholics lol, even the word orthodox itself literally means conservative

  • @pwgearedturbofan2348
    @pwgearedturbofan2348 Před 4 lety +688

    "Ideological differences are a matter of life and death for Communists."
    Lol, this continues to today in online communist discussions. Pretty much every flavor of communism hates every other flavor of communism. If you want a good chance of enraging certain communists, just call Trotsky a hero, lol. That makes Stalinists angry.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před 4 lety +678

    Back then we supported the USSR but now we support China

    • @lawjef
      @lawjef Před 4 lety +87

      Kim Jong-un by “support” you mean they support you, right? Because apart from being a geographic buffer with the West, none of those communist nations need you at all. Some uncharitable folks might even say that you make their diplomatic relations unnecessarily complex

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 Před 4 lety +1

      Nuh...

    • @polpot6
      @polpot6 Před 4 lety +18

      You weren’t born and my country is better

    • @glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917
      @glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917 Před 4 lety +16

      Wait wasn't the DPRK historically more allied to the PRC than the USSR?

    • @punishedvenomsnake716
      @punishedvenomsnake716 Před 4 lety +35

      @@polpot6
      Fuck you and the Khmer Rouge. Fuckin CIA mass murderer

  • @igloo2962
    @igloo2962 Před 4 lety +114

    Please make a video on the famous History Matters-Ten Minute History split.

  • @blessingsogbetun7007
    @blessingsogbetun7007 Před 4 lety +125

    Soviet union:come on we can talk about this
    China: im sorry it's not me it's you

  • @punishedvenomsnake716
    @punishedvenomsnake716 Před 4 lety +120

    I wrote my high school history thesis on this! Fascinating stuff. It was mostly ideological stuff but they still had strong ties together obviously

    • @Whydoyoureadme
      @Whydoyoureadme Před 4 lety +1

      A thesis in high school? What weed is your teaching staff smoking, lmao.

    • @thatwolfensteinguy8954
      @thatwolfensteinguy8954 Před 3 lety +6

      @transylvanian ok right, as a Communist myself I do respect you l, but let's see the numbers, ahh yes, Stalin killed 20 Million, Mau almost 70 Million. Their was nothing Communist about Stalin's Iron U.S.S.R or Mau's China. They were both dictators who killed millions, honestly . Marx would be turning in his grave if he saw what Modern "Communists".....I mean Facist Dictators have done.

    • @SteventheOrigin
      @SteventheOrigin Před 2 lety +4

      @@thatwolfensteinguy8954 30 million*

    • @thatone846
      @thatone846 Před 4 měsíci

      @@thatwolfensteinguy8954 Bro really said "It wasn't real communism!"

  • @recursor9469
    @recursor9469 Před 10 měsíci +27

    It's always been interesting to me that the Sino Split occurred because China thought the USSR's communist reforms were too soft, yet the reason why China ultimately remained as the last major Communist power is because of its own liberalizing reforms.

    • @ahogammer6895
      @ahogammer6895 Před 9 měsíci +1

      but the ussr also liberalized.

    • @elevatedmeance6807
      @elevatedmeance6807 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@ahogammer6895 not in the right ways, and by the time they did it was too late

    • @lincw920
      @lincw920 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ahogammer6895 you mean collapsed

    • @sleefy2343
      @sleefy2343 Před 2 měsíci

      They aren’t communist anymore lol

    • @ordavis
      @ordavis Před 6 dny

      You have no idea what you are talking about 👍

  • @dsong2006
    @dsong2006 Před 4 lety +58

    China aside from being Albanians closest strategic ally was closer to both Romania and Yugoslavia then to the USSR. This was important detail that was missed. Also China going to war with the US was Stalin's idea which also put distance between the two powers. Stalin event suggested having a unified Soviet controlled fleet in the Pacific based in Dalian, which was unacceptable to Mao. The Soviets also briefly supported the East Turkestan Republic and tried to stop the Chinese Civil War at the Yangtze River creating a North/South China. When Mao saw the Soviets starting to encroach on Chinese sovereity that's when the split started.

    • @guoxiutang7569
      @guoxiutang7569 Před rokem

      The USSR has never been a great ally to China. All it want is power and more lands.

    • @polpot247
      @polpot247 Před rokem +1

      你是正确的

  • @sidharthakumar8563
    @sidharthakumar8563 Před 4 lety +85

    "Ideological purity is a matter of life or death for Communism"..truer words have never been spoken.

    • @dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002
      @dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002 Před 3 lety +13

      We see that often how to maintain their ideological purity, millions are butchered by them.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims Před rokem +1

      And this is why it fails miserably (well one of the reasons, the main one is that it doesn’t work)

    • @lincw920
      @lincw920 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@dnhdfnfkrjxjxfjjggj3002 well not anymore, at least in PRC, I see loads of capitalism and neo-liberalism supporters on domestic video platforms and not even being censored, these people sometimes bug me, really

    • @ordavis
      @ordavis Před 6 dny

      You're right, revisionists have historically helped or accelerated the destruction of socialist projects, rooting them out is a matter of life or death.

  • @aleksandarvil5718
    @aleksandarvil5718 Před 4 lety +380

    Next time:
    *Soviet - Finnish Relations (post 1945)*

    • @tommyturner7086
      @tommyturner7086 Před 4 lety +4

      Interesting

    • @RyoKasai25
      @RyoKasai25 Před 4 lety +8

      I'm curious, do finnish people make a Vietnam and laugh at the russians for their failed invasion, or they just don't care.

    • @theyoshi202
      @theyoshi202 Před 4 lety +13

      @RyoKasai25 ??? It’s never (well, rarely) the Vietnamese that laugh at Americans for the failed invasion, it’s the rest of the world.

    • @jokuvaan5175
      @jokuvaan5175 Před 4 lety +13

      @@RyoKasai25 Yes. Finnish kids online love to inform Russians how "we beat you beat you in the winter war". It's to the patriotics and nationalists similiar to what beating Nazi Germany is to Russians. A reason for pride. David vs. Goliath known. And WW2 is the only war the independent Finland has been at war with other nations so there aren't really other major war things to pround of.

    • @Feffdc
      @Feffdc Před 4 lety +14

      They had excellent relations with Ussr.They even got the Mig21 first even before some members of the warsaw pact

  • @asj8048
    @asj8048 Před 4 lety +336

    The first History Matters character to die must have been like:
    o.o
    -.-
    *thump*

    • @andreimoga7813
      @andreimoga7813 Před 4 lety +18

      More like
      ○_○
      *thump*
      no mid panel for this channel

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 Před 4 lety +9

      That would be King Louise XV of France 1774. His first video

  • @CT--gs1wj
    @CT--gs1wj Před 4 lety +887

    China: “how dare USSR send tanks to crush the Hungarian revolution, its not the communist way...”
    Also China: “student protesters in Tiananmen Square?! Send all available Tank at once!”

    • @CT--gs1wj
      @CT--gs1wj Před 4 lety +17

      Ilyass Abbad
      China never had overpriced tuition fees, dumbfuck

    • @1.3mviews64
      @1.3mviews64 Před 4 lety +79

      @Ilyass Abbad you two both as dumb fucks lol

    • @CT--gs1wj
      @CT--gs1wj Před 4 lety +14

      @Ilyass Abbad wheres the punchline? don't hide your stupidity by saying "its a joke"

    • @CT--gs1wj
      @CT--gs1wj Před 4 lety +10

      @Ilyass Abbad first of all, no.. and second of all, you're the stupid one for making such a shitty joke, deal with it.

    • @CT--gs1wj
      @CT--gs1wj Před 4 lety +8

      @Ilyass Abbad content cop? your "joke" is rubbish, get over it

  • @hijodeputa5450
    @hijodeputa5450 Před 4 lety +43

    hoxha's albania didn't follow maoism but supported china in the split because he despised khrushchev for his revisionism

    • @dandombrowski9991
      @dandombrowski9991 Před 4 lety +5

      Noah Sabaj for a time but then came the sino-albanian split. which hohxa* would accuse mao of deviating from marxism leninism

  • @Kawaiijapanlover
    @Kawaiijapanlover Před 2 lety +16

    I love how you guys use humor in your videos, it makes them so much more fun (and funny) to watch!
    Good work!

  • @klm2639
    @klm2639 Před 4 lety +176

    This video didn't go into how the Sino Soviet split affected foreign policy specifically in Africa and the fight against decolonisation. The Mozambican Civil War, the Rhodesian Bush War and Angolan civil War, Vietnam and Cambodia too.

    • @glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917
      @glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917 Před 4 lety +2

      I think the PRC was also involved in Afghanistan somehow

    • @MrAnonymousRandom
      @MrAnonymousRandom Před 4 lety +4

      @@glorytotheaprdeathtotheufl7917 Other than selling the CIA some arms it could transfer over to the Islamic fundamentalists, I haven't heard of Chinese involvement.

    • @mxn1948
      @mxn1948 Před 4 lety +20

      @@MrAnonymousRandom it sold a lot of arms to the CIA who then transfer it through Pakistan to Afghanistan. There was also reports of Chinese "advisors" in Afghanistan though not great in numbers

    • @andrewsitu5107
      @andrewsitu5107 Před 4 lety +1

      So China helped the Taliban?

    • @klm2639
      @klm2639 Před 4 lety +12

      @@andrewsitu5107 nope Taliban was purely America's baby. Remember Charlie Wilson's War? I believe Tom Hanks even won an Oscar for that role

  • @general4526
    @general4526 Před 4 lety +461

    We don’t talk about this, comrade

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify Před 4 lety +11

      Sure comrade Ivanovich, we shall sent him to the gulag!!!

    • @OCinneide
      @OCinneide Před 4 lety +3

      @all the princesses men That's a death sentence!

    • @maozedong7536
      @maozedong7536 Před 4 lety +18

      I agree

    • @andreimoga7813
      @andreimoga7813 Před 4 lety +3

      Something tells me we won't see any videos for quite a while...

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 Před 3 lety

      We don't talk about Jewish banks in China either.

  • @lc9245
    @lc9245 Před 4 lety +267

    Didn’t mention the most impactful consequence of the split. After the Vietnam War, Laos and Cambodia, all were under communist regimes. Because all of them are grassroots movements, their allegiance also split between the Soviets and Chinese, particularly the Vietnamese favours the former while the Khmer Rouge, the latter. You don’t often hear about Khmer Rouge, especially at the time, which is astounding considering Khmer Rouge killed 1/3 of its country population, the most percentage wise of all communist regimes. You would think American propagandists would jump all over the story, but that’s not what happened. The US, at the time wanted to get closer to China. They ended up keeping quiet over the entire ordeal. What was publicised was the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. It started with border clashes with the Khmer Rouge, backed by Deng Xiaoping at the time, made several incursions into Vietnam, in the name of reclaiming their ancestral land. The Vietnamese responded by invading Cambodia and deposing Khmer Rouge, out of overconfidence and probably lack of awareness about the political situation in the Union at the time. The Vietnamese were hoping the Soviet would keep China in check, but what ended up happened was the Chinese army invaded Vietnam from its Southern border, crushing some Vietnamese divisions while incurring few losses. The Vietnamese, rightfully, faced political pressure from the entire world and had to withdraw from Cambodia, handing power over to Hun Sen, whom they installed and made a deal with the Cambodian loyal family which last until this day. The Sino-Soviet split caused a few millions Cambodian, Vietnamese and Chinese death. In a classic example of real politics, representing Cambodia in the UN until the 90s were the Khmer Rouge representatives, because they are backed by China. The entire world condoned and supported a communist regime that killed 2 millions Cambodian, because of China’s backing. It’s even more remarkable when you consider that America aided the Khmer Rouge while they fight against the Vietnamese installed government of Hun Sen, refusing to call the killing of 2 millions Cambodian, genocide. I think this sets the tone for our upcoming China dominated century where things that involves China, but let’s hope that I am wrong.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 Před 2 lety +22

      Britain appeased Hitler hoping that he would turn on Russia. Look how that turned out.
      USA appeased Mao hoping that he would turn on Russia as well.
      The Anglo-Saxon russophobia will be their tombstone in the end.

    • @lalehiandeity1649
      @lalehiandeity1649 Před 2 lety +8

      @@rylencason4420 You haven’t studied up on actual Marxist economic theory, clearly. You can see how unchecked capitalism in America has resulted in increasing wealth gaps, tired infrastructure, etc. China is only using capitalism as a stepping stone to true communism.

    • @fgfgdgdfgdfgiidfgdfgdfgdfgdfgd
      @fgfgdgdfgdfgiidfgdfgdfgdfgdfgd Před 2 lety +8

      @@rylencason4420 lol they practically lost ever war game in china. and the economic and demographic issue is also an issue in US as well

    • @nicanornunez9787
      @nicanornunez9787 Před 2 lety +5

      Wasn't Kissinger in Cambodia while everything was happening, wasn't he on the helicopters while the KR was busting everyone with glasses for being a nerd.

    • @fabiandonvil
      @fabiandonvil Před 2 lety +3

      there is one major reason why china will not dominate the next decades. population. i'm pretty sure everyone knows that china has had 1-child per couple policy for 30-odd years by now. as you know 1 kid is not enough to replace 2 parents. 30 years is almost 2 generations with only 1 kid. china's population is expected to HALVE in the next century. even if the communists found a way to rocket up the birth rate, this will still happen. population crises come slowly and impact slowly. the damage has been done. as the elderly population explodes, the CCP will need to take care of them, completely tanking their economy if the population/labor shortage doesn't do it. in addition this will also mean their military will downsize significantly in the coming decades. if china wants any shot at world domination -however small the chance- it needs to do so NOW, before they lose their only major military advantage on the US: huge population.

  • @leonleon2021
    @leonleon2021 Před 3 lety +11

    2:11 I love there's a stick note adding "People's" on China's seat XD

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV Před 2 lety +12

    So ironic that the split began because of Mao thinking Khrushchev was too conciliatory to the West. And then later on, Mao turned around and sided with the West against the USSR.

  • @dannypipewrench533
    @dannypipewrench533 Před 2 lety +3

    0:33 I like the distinctive yellow flash.

  • @danieldeburgh8437
    @danieldeburgh8437 Před 4 lety +7

    This is the best Channel. You actually make videos about stuff I want to know, and not what I already know like every other channel seems to do.

  • @adamcieslik1985
    @adamcieslik1985 Před 4 lety +98

    There's a little mistake in the 1st map in 00:01 - USSR has Kazachstan and kaukasus states which is not included in this map

    • @erwinschliemann7482
      @erwinschliemann7482 Před 4 lety +3

      Adam Cieślik It may be including only European SSR's, which would kind of make sense given what the map is showing.

    • @floringrigore129
      @floringrigore129 Před 4 lety +5

      Also , all maps present Kuril Islands as Japanese , not Soviet

    • @KizanTM
      @KizanTM Před 4 lety +5

      Erwin Schliemann then why isn’t Azerbaijan! Armenia and Georgia part of the nap?

    • @KraljNikola-fu2tu
      @KraljNikola-fu2tu Před 4 lety +2

      Why is Yugoslavia in the eastern bloc

    • @bootmii98
      @bootmii98 Před 4 lety +1

      @@floringrigore129 after WWII that'd be inexcusable, at least for the northern half.

  • @soyusmaximus7176
    @soyusmaximus7176 Před 4 lety +73

    I'd love a video on Anglo-Franco-American relations throughout the Cold War. That was some interesting stuff.

  • @abbyalphonse499
    @abbyalphonse499 Před 3 lety +8

    1:47 Right, because the PRC certainly didn't do that later...

  • @FirstnameLastname-qe3ry
    @FirstnameLastname-qe3ry Před 4 lety +36

    Mongolia: *sweats nervously*

    • @dustin628
      @dustin628 Před 3 lety +2

      Its amazing how the ancestors of Ghengis Khan have become so small and peaceful considering their thousands of years of conquest south into China and west until Moscow

    • @EroticOnion23
      @EroticOnion23 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dustin628 West till Vienna

    • @hiimryan2388
      @hiimryan2388 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dustin628 peaceful... No

  • @FerrariKing
    @FerrariKing Před 4 lety +11

    These short videos are very informative and nicely put together.

  • @RobloxsBest
    @RobloxsBest Před 4 lety +212

    "Mao saw the use of the Red Army in the hungarian revolution as delegitimizing communism" Ironic.

    • @Hungabrigoo
      @Hungabrigoo Před 3 lety +13

      Communism is a religion of peace... oh wait that doesn't sound right.

    • @ayman_2138
      @ayman_2138 Před 3 lety +25

      yea, but mao was dead when the tiananmen square massacre happened.

    • @ayman_2138
      @ayman_2138 Před 3 lety

      probably

    • @debaxer
      @debaxer Před 3 lety +3

      It's because the USSR was doing that in another country.

    • @SamuelRusche
      @SamuelRusche Před 3 lety +1

      They never attack other nations....

  • @goosebumps212
    @goosebumps212 Před 3 lety +103

    After 14 years of CZcams I can easily state (as a history buff) that this is the best channel of the platform !

  • @dracotitanfall
    @dracotitanfall Před 2 lety +79

    1:40 Mao wasn't exporting grain during a drought because he wanted to look rich, it was because he and the rest of the central government didn't know it was happening at all. This was due to the government system where regional managers were supposed to be completely responsible for any problems of their region, and thus avoided telling the issue of the drought and consequent famine to Mao and the party leaders to avoid being reprimanded.

    • @Steven-uk2fz
      @Steven-uk2fz Před 2 lety +3

      What a dumbass lmao. Some people idolise this guy btw

    • @victorwong2875
      @victorwong2875 Před 2 lety +1

      Your rhetoric stinks. Bad guys are the ministers, the emperor is good.

    • @TheIT221
      @TheIT221 Před 2 lety +10

      Well he did have a Shanghai speech where he talked about the famine, and (from what I know) second in command talked of a man made humanitarian disaster

    • @guoxiutang7569
      @guoxiutang7569 Před rokem

      So is he right doing so? Absolute no-no. But he did good stuff to Chinese people so still is a beloved leader.

    • @varoonnone7159
      @varoonnone7159 Před rokem +4

      @@guoxiutang7569
      50 million deaths with the great leap forward and the cultural revolution but still a great leader?

  • @jacobcarignan1
    @jacobcarignan1 Před 3 lety +61

    The PRC is the quiet kid who gets overshadowed by their cooler sibling/friend, but who ends up way more successful later

  • @nb2008nc
    @nb2008nc Před 4 lety +42

    UN general assembly: "Insert Earth here."
    Me: If I do, how do I know you just won't steal it?

  • @DirtMerchant693
    @DirtMerchant693 Před 4 lety +1

    I’m loving these video topics; it’s stuff I’ve always wondered about but never learned

  • @daevious_
    @daevious_ Před 4 lety +18

    0:34 That's hilariously dark.

  • @jonathanbien3685
    @jonathanbien3685 Před 4 lety +87

    You forgot the PRC's border conflict with Vietnam in 1979.

    • @whoboo6780
      @whoboo6780 Před 4 lety +4

      Forgot Viet failed invasion in 1988. Vietnam dead - almost 100. China, 0 dead.

    • @poisonousteapot2394
      @poisonousteapot2394 Před 4 lety +7

      @Uvuvwevwevwe Osas didn't Cambodia at the time was ruled by Polpot ?, I mean the Vietnamese invasion may be slightly justified

    • @poisonousteapot2394
      @poisonousteapot2394 Před 4 lety

      @Uvuvwevwevwe Osas well err... A united Indochina is better than a divided one ?

    • @poisonousteapot2394
      @poisonousteapot2394 Před 4 lety

      @Uvuvwevwevwe Osas yeah I think you're right, while I do think deposing Polpot and unifying Indochina is great, the ends doesn't justify the mean enough now that I think of it.

    • @poisonousteapot2394
      @poisonousteapot2394 Před 4 lety

      @Uvuvwevwevwe Osas in a perfect world that would happen, people there are too divide to do so, sad really since if they were united the region might actually see some improvement.

  • @philips.5563
    @philips.5563 Před 4 lety +7

    0:34 is probably the best reference to atomic weapons ever animated.

  • @kellanjones5591
    @kellanjones5591 Před 4 lety +2

    I would love to have longer videos, I don’t mind if they take weeks, but 10 Minute history is awesome

  • @silence6605
    @silence6605 Před 4 lety +164

    Chinese going their own way - CGTOW

    • @Marylandbrony
      @Marylandbrony Před 4 lety +14

      Involuntarily expelled from the Soviet Bloc: Ineftsb's

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před 4 lety +23

      The Chad Karl Marx vs. the Virgin Mao Zedong

    • @JollyOldCanuck
      @JollyOldCanuck Před 4 lety

      @@merrittanimation7721 Karl Marx was German.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před 4 lety +4

      @@JollyOldCanuck The joke is that Karl Marx is the ultimate communist. His nationality doesn't matter.

    • @JollyOldCanuck
      @JollyOldCanuck Před 4 lety +2

      @@merrittanimation7721 I'd argue that Rosseau, who most likely inspired Karl Marx, was the ultimate communist. That man attributed all the world's evils to private property.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 4 lety +155

    We talked about this as a topic in a Model UN communist committee. I was the only one besides China that was pro-China. The guy for Albania was out and we barely had time for the topic so I was China's ally. I was Romania

  • @AllPileup
    @AllPileup Před 4 lety +7

    0:33 I like how there's a *FLASH* behind the emperor

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před rokem +1

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!

  • @patrickazzarella6729
    @patrickazzarella6729 Před 4 lety

    I was always wondering this, great video

  • @icrushchildrensdreams4556
    @icrushchildrensdreams4556 Před 4 lety +29

    Please make a video about the Taiping Rebellion or the Boxer Rebellion.

  • @6ch6ris6
    @6ch6ris6 Před rokem +10

    Mao holding up a sign saying "make steel" to a farmer is the best summary of the great leap ever

    • @masterdeetectiv9520
      @masterdeetectiv9520 Před rokem +2

      Mao when he realises throwing a bunch of iron ore at peasants who dont know what it is doesnt do anything

  • @hildenburg5
    @hildenburg5 Před 4 lety

    I've been catching up on your videos and did not at all realize this was a new one

  • @mariakelly5
    @mariakelly5 Před 4 lety +1

    Very interesting. I enjoyed this mini history lesson. Thanks!

  • @mariano98ify
    @mariano98ify Před 4 lety +7

    0:34 Focking love these nuke explosions referenced.

  • @duskpede5146
    @duskpede5146 Před 3 lety +36

    2:18 ideological purity was so important that they proceeded to implement none of the economic policies that marx advocated for

  • @Cream1968
    @Cream1968 Před 2 lety +1

    Well done,very concise!

  • @nhmooytis7058
    @nhmooytis7058 Před rokem

    Really enjoy the vids especially as they’re to the point not rambling on!

  • @rubenhagen1453
    @rubenhagen1453 Před 2 lety +4

    1:39 he needed to know how much he could put out so ..He calculated his kingdom

  • @marveyzing1495
    @marveyzing1495 Před 3 lety +6

    china: mocks russia about the Hungarian revolt
    also China: ' does the the tiananmen square massacre '

    • @apinl8844
      @apinl8844 Před 3 lety +2

      The Tiananmen square massacre happened way after Mao died. Deng Xiaoping and Mao Zedong actually disagreed on a lot of policies. Deng pretended to agree with Mao on everything before Mao died in order to become Mao's successor, but in reality were very different.

    • @apinl8844
      @apinl8844 Před 3 lety +3

      Also, not all of China's government was "evil" at the time. There was a vote on what to do with the ongoing protests in Tiananmen square, and the majority of the party voted on a crackdown. Deng wasn't sure what to do about the protests, but his advisors begged and convinced him that a crackdown was needed if Deng wanted to prevent dissolution of China (another warring states period). In the end, the massacre happened, and the politicians in China's government who voted to satisfy the protestors' dream for democracy were kicked out of the party and put under house arrest. (look up Hu Yaobing, a communist official who wanted to turn China into a democracy similar to Gorbachev's). Shortly after the massacre, Deng resigned his position as the leader of China.

    • @russelfang7434
      @russelfang7434 Před rokem

      Even the so-called "massacre" is a fake. If you try to collect pictures about the Tiananmen incident, you will only find PLA soldiers who were brutally killed. I even admire the CCP's restraint at that time. Freedom is not the reason why thugs kill innocent people.

  • @GMEDZtv
    @GMEDZtv Před 4 lety

    Thanks for posting this

  • @Super-chad
    @Super-chad Před 4 lety +2

    Hey, this is the most brilliant historian I've ever come across, seriously...

  • @karthikkv5742
    @karthikkv5742 Před 4 lety +3

    I’ve been wanting to know more abt this

  • @MarcusHansen276
    @MarcusHansen276 Před 4 lety +3

    Love how Taiwan is in a picture frame in the background

  • @BenJamin-jc4jm
    @BenJamin-jc4jm Před 2 lety

    Also, the way you pronounce Boogily Woogily is pure gold. I want to make it my text notification sound.

  • @organicbbqsauce2651
    @organicbbqsauce2651 Před 4 lety +1

    Just made an essay about this a week ago, nowwww it comes a video about this!!!!

  • @magicstix0r
    @magicstix0r Před 2 lety +4

    "What's the difference between Stalinism and Maoism?"
    "About 40 million dead..."

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Kinda ironic for the USSR to criticise the "Great Leap Forward" when they themselves caused a mass famine in the Holodomour

    • @SuperNintendawg
      @SuperNintendawg Před měsícem +1

      Well, it's not THAT ironic considering Khrushchev's #1 internal priorities were improving agriculture and ending Stalinist oppression. Leadership changes led to a radical change in policy.

    • @oliversherman2414
      @oliversherman2414 Před měsícem +1

      @@SuperNintendawg I know but still

  • @sakura7431
    @sakura7431 Před 2 lety +1

    A rare video that is all objective and accurate about this matter, thank you for this!

  • @marqc.9904
    @marqc.9904 Před 3 lety

    I frickin love these videos. That is all.

  • @cheydinal5401
    @cheydinal5401 Před 4 lety +14

    I had no idea that Albania was randomly Maoist but Vietnam Stalinist. Also um, yeah, that explains a lot about Ethiopia's position today

    • @iddomargalit-friedman3897
      @iddomargalit-friedman3897 Před 4 lety +16

      The leader of albenia was a real nut head, even in communist standarts - and eventually no one was communist enough for him.
      BTW he was sure the west would invade albenia, and fortified the country to a rediculous extent.
      To this day albenia has the most bunkers-per-capita in the world.

    • @redcommierad2447
      @redcommierad2447 Před 4 lety +3

      transylvanian their capitalist part in China is mainly in commercial cities and for foreign businesses. If not many other places are highly socialist in China.

    • @hephaestus9901
      @hephaestus9901 Před 4 lety

      @transylvanian we have a unique look into the minds of the truly insane

    • @Arjibi
      @Arjibi Před 4 lety +1

      Vietnamese Leninist*
      Not Stalin, Lenin it's Hồ Chí Minh teacher in ideology and revolution. Stalinist were tolerant and Lenin don't "like it?"

    • @punchdreadnought8101
      @punchdreadnought8101 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Arjibi Vietnam prefers nationalism, or similar to pure Marxism.

  • @interesting6436
    @interesting6436 Před 4 lety +8

    2:04 Americans put nukes in Turkey first.

  • @longclaw22-72
    @longclaw22-72 Před 2 lety +1

    You're unironically the funniest guy on this whole site.

  • @creepystares9853
    @creepystares9853 Před 4 lety

    yeah, this my favorite channel

  • @Neversa
    @Neversa Před 3 lety +4

    My grandpa fought in Zhalanashköl against Chinese in 1968.

  • @BHuang92
    @BHuang92 Před 4 lety +29

    Stalin had no interest in Asia and so the Chinese Communist had zero support from the Russians. The only faction Stalin supported was the Kuomintang which changed after 1947 when the Communist won the civil war. Mao was a huge fan of Stalin while Stalin personally did not like him. During the 1960s when the Sino-Soviet split happened there was a series of clashes alongside the Russian and Chinese border in which one incident a T-62 (the Soviet's most modern main battle tank) was captured intact by the Chinese and was used for their own tank development. Since the 1990s, China has repaired its relations with Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.

    • @fosso8803
      @fosso8803 Před 4 lety +6

      Stalin didn't like anyone

    • @NortheastIndiaindetails
      @NortheastIndiaindetails Před 4 lety +14

      Stalin is Georgian not russian

    • @ls200076
      @ls200076 Před 4 lety

      @@NortheastIndiaindetails *Angry Soviet noises*

    • @Rishi123456789
      @Rishi123456789 Před 4 lety +4

      @@NortheastIndiaindetails Stalin was a Russia-loving Georgian.

    • @ohamatchhams
      @ohamatchhams Před 3 lety

      @@Rishi123456789 Every tankie are either Russophile, Sinophile or both in denial
      They're just imperialists under different coat of paint and dressings, yet somehow they're ironically being less degenerate than how North Americas and Western Europe entails to be despite of state-atheism bs

  • @kapitonas6202
    @kapitonas6202 Před 3 lety

    Loving that corn portrait next to khrushchev

  • @nanookdiwi4543
    @nanookdiwi4543 Před 4 lety

    This is quickly becoming my favorite channel. Needs more signs tho.

  • @dogeboi1804
    @dogeboi1804 Před 2 lety +8

    *Kruschev and Mao arguing who is the real communist while both not following the communist manifesto written by Karl Marx* Marx:😐

  • @Samuel-wm1xr
    @Samuel-wm1xr Před 4 lety +6

    You missed out the funny part, Mao allying with Nixon to fight the Soviet Union after condemning the USSR for being too friendly to the US

  • @UNKNOWN-wh2jb
    @UNKNOWN-wh2jb Před 4 lety

    Your videos are great

  • @denisdaly1708
    @denisdaly1708 Před 2 lety

    I'd love if these were longer

  • @NoNameAtAll2
    @NoNameAtAll2 Před 4 lety +11

    1:34 less than or more than sign?

    • @Root174
      @Root174 Před 4 lety +5

      Every CZcamsr seems to do it wrong :P . The symbol he used is "less than", so he accidentally wrote 15,000,000 or less instead of 15,000,000 or more. Draw imaginary vertical lines inside the arrow and you will notice that one side has longer lines than the other. Longer lines = larger number; shorter lines = smaller number. It should either be >15,000,000 or 15,000,000

    • @esef18
      @esef18 Před 2 lety

      @@Root174 it's not that it's just showing a Chinese farmer so it means 15000000 Chinese farmers died

    • @esef18
      @esef18 Před 2 lety

      na

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims Před 3 lety +7

    “After the time of their (Japan’s) surrender...”
    *Bright flash behind Japanese figure*

  • @blackpowderuser373
    @blackpowderuser373 Před 4 lety

    The mad lad actually did a video about this. Thank you! :)
    Next suggestion: The Non-Aligned Movement (Cold War-present)

  • @hms_thunderchild5456
    @hms_thunderchild5456 Před 4 lety +1

    Please do another End of Year Q&A 😃

  • @scotandiamapping4549
    @scotandiamapping4549 Před rokem +4

    Mao : We hate you because your too soft on the US
    Also Mao : Becomes softer with the US

  • @thebuckhunter8881
    @thebuckhunter8881 Před 4 lety +7

    You lose (atomic flash in background). Very accurate

  • @tinderbox4690
    @tinderbox4690 Před 4 lety

    Wicked awesome, man

  • @shrekgamer4199
    @shrekgamer4199 Před 2 lety

    The running through flowers never gets old

  • @ronaldreagan7772
    @ronaldreagan7772 Před 3 lety +7

    Mao detested Khrushchev because of his thawing of the cold war. Although he had some minor disagreements with Stalin but he believed Stalin was a good communist unlike Khrushchev

  • @danilotroncoso9170
    @danilotroncoso9170 Před 3 lety +3

    Mongolia: if we dont move they wont see us

  • @seanhartnett79
    @seanhartnett79 Před 4 lety +1

    I love this content and videos. Keep up the good work and keep making content. If you have to, move towards Patreon.

  • @0wntXPl0x
    @0wntXPl0x Před 4 lety +2

    Any chance of a classic 10 minute video now n again, maybe finishing off the British history series please :)