Stephen A. Smith Rants On Phil Jackson's 2017 NBA Draft | First Take | June 23, 2017
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- Stephen A. Smith rants about Knicks' Phil Jackson and his performance in the 2017 NBA Draft.
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I love when SAS rants about Phil Jackson & the Knicks. This is great entertainment
YRN Jon Swavyy Literally every episode of First take 😂
YRN Jon Swavyy I was hoopin he talks about him fallin asleep on one of the rookies
I literally only came here for it and I was not disappointed:P
Think we should wait for him to play before passing judgement though.
Angry Knick Fan's crazier cousin
replace Phil Jackson with whom? Stephen A, Max? WHO!?
"Lord knows where Willy Hernangomez is from" 😂😂😂
Dman107 Spain, that Johnny Cacrum wannabe need a map and a geography class ASAP
Spain... he's from Spain lol
This 'analyst' must have been watching him all year and acts like he dont know that. SMH.. clearly hasn't learn since '15 draft to WATCH players before he judges
😂😂😂
Aleksander Olsen doesn’t matter now their both scrubs
Didn't he do the same thing when Porzingis was drafted?
No, he didn't.
Ronold Cledor he did lol. search it on youtube. His reaction when they drafted kp and his reaction after kp shows he is not a bust. It's night and day lol
Let's be honest, Nobody knew who Porzingis was.
So his reaction was genuine. Porzingis proved a lot of people wrong in a good way.
Still doesn't excuse the fact that the Knicks passed on Monk & Smith Jr.
Thats exactly why you should wait and actually watch the players play.
Seriously, Europe talens have a much higher chance to be better straight in the NBA because they usually play with actual pros in Europe instead of kids in NCAA since there is no actual High School/College sports in Europe
if u watch basketball then u knew who he was.
New York Knicks are the Cleveland Browns of the NBA.
JMT at least the browns got good future
JMT um nah chill not even close
that would be the kings
Nah the Knicks are the Jets. Never the worst team but somehow the most disappointing.
JMT Noooo we diapoint sometimes but were not the worst
Y'all ain't like when he drafted KP either.
Staymelo7 I'm strictly talkin bout the draft. Y'all mad at the pick before you even see him in summer league what is that?
Staymelo7 I get your mad at Phil Jackson but you can't let your dislike for him reach your draft pick before he can even prove himself.
Staymelo7 early was a 2nd round pick & Hardaway couldn't defend a rock. I wish we kept him but he wouldn't make or break us
It's more about the reason why he drafted the guy. Only to fit triangle but everyone knows you draft for best available not fit. KP just happened to be both but who knows if we can hit twice on a gamble with another euro pick in the top 10. Phil is focusing too much on triangle that's the issue
+Staymelo7 What makes Frank not worthy? Because he didn't play in America? That logic is so flawed its insane. Michael Beasley avr. 26ppg & 12rpg in college & turned out to be a bust. Where you played before the NBA doesn't dictate how good you'll be in the league
Tonight for Game 7 Nuggets vs Jazz 2020 playoffs, SAS claims he claimed the Knicks should've taken Donovan Mitchell. In reality he mentioned DSJ, ZC, and MM.
All still better options
Back after his latest Knicks rant that had me in tears 😂😂😂
SAS lost all credibility on this subject when he said in the past porzingis was a bad pick and now he's in love with porzingis and he's untradeable. He's trying to spin it now as I was upset with Phil and not KP, but go back and watch what he said. He was clearly knocking Porzingis game
low comprehension level huh??
watch this be the same thing that happened to porzingis 😂
Juan Lozano exactly
SAS is annoying
Juan Lozano facts
This guy has no special attributes like KP. Very unlikely
Yeez he has two tho. 6'5" and 7'0" wingspan
Juan Lozano Just cuz the dude is European, doesn't make him a good pick. What kinda logic is that
Interesting, SAS never mentioned Donavon Mitchell 's name on this video, but he's on First Take today screaming at the top of his lungs saying he wanted Mitchell.
same reason i’m here, not surprised
These dudes really just say anything and think we don't keep receipts he hyping up Dennis Smith and Zach Collins 😂😂
I hope it's gonna be like when they drafted Porzingis, and he proves everybody wrong. Stop assuming the international players are trash, when you know nothing about them!
He's not trash but he has the potential to be a good starter that's it. He not gonna be an all star type player
Most likely is non of the players drafted lower than him going to be all star players. And he's 18 years old, could still grow a few inches, so you really can't tell how good or bad he will be.
FlixerDK Malik monk and Dennis smith jr will both be better than him. And it doesn't help that he's in NY which is a horribly run organization
bryan adamson he actually had the highest all star potential in the draft
Muneeb Sharif no tf he didn't he had a 14% chance of being an all star and a 47% chance of being a bust. I'm not saying he's not good but he shouldn't have been drafted top 10
Now we can say he's right. DSJ is better, Zach Collins is better, Malik Monk may not be better but #13, Donovan Mitchell, is better.
Now we can say dsj is a bust lmao
@@ohwow1359 however he was better before he got traded to the Knicks 😂
@@NiklasLuger6 that's correct lol
@@ohwow1359 fizdale ruined DSJ....You’ll be editing this comment soon lol
@@Culley91 I hope frank or Dsj step up this season cause I don't want us to tank again.
Dennis smith averaged 15 points pg frank averaged 5 gotta love being a knicks fan
This is why I don't like some of us fucking Knicks fans, always complaining about our pick and instead of supporting it. Then in two years when he's good they'll be like ' I never saw him play' and all that bs. Just stfu, analysts had Ntilikina as the biggest bust and all star potential in the whole draft, just because he played in a pro league in Europe (which produced all stars) doesn't mean he's trash. He'd average 15/5/5 in college with ease. He's 6'5 with a 7'1 wingspan. Shot 42% from 3. If you're not in it from the start and supporting the kid, don't come back when he turns out good. And Max is the fakest guy out there, Doesn't root or support the Knicks, 'apparently stopped', don't act like you're feeling pain when you don't support us. And yh Phil Jackson has been annoying af with his speech, but his draft picks have been outstanding, with KP and Willy we've solidified our front court for 10 yrs, I trust French Frank
I've been a Knick fan for 45 years. I've had it with Phil Jackson and his outdated triangle. The next two years can't go fast enough.
Harun Ali stfu. The day a team wins the title with porzinfoul trouble and Willy hernangomez is the day I turn gay
Harun Ali you're right I was pissed n then I thought about it n I'm still upset because from what some analyst have said Frank is a good basketball player but very passive offensively so to me that means in order to get the most out of Frank he needs to be paired with a Malik Monk or DSJ type player aka scorer.
I mean Frank is the perfect 3rd wheel for Melo n KP but the thing is MELO is 33 and Phil has been trying to get him out of town for the past two years!
Oh yea and now he trying to trade KP
PHIL HAS REPORTEDLY GONE TO SLEEP DURING LOTTERY PLAYERS WORKOUTS that's so disrespectful and inconsiderate of Phil
I just hate how MJ , Kobe , Shaq built this man a 5 year safety net from getting fired cause if anyone else would have done this they would have been fired
Harun Ali W
Maybe he should actually watch some tape as a NBA analyst on national tv ffs
The Mavs would've also taken Ntilikina over Dennis Smith if they could. All scouts who actually know something about these players had him ahead of Smith and Monk.
Yes they would. 6'5 point guard playing professional ball at the age of 18 whose in love with basketball.
StefanManUtd Theres a reason monk fell so low its bc hes most likely going to just be a 6th man
+bigbullbk Ricky Rubio 6'4 was pro at a younger age and he's still a bum. What's your point? Y'all need to accept that Phil don't care about what's going on. He just getting checks
FINALLY someone who understands. Thank you. These dumb af "analysts" dont scout they just spout the general public opinion on live TV.
No one is delusional. The goal is to still be bad in the next couple years and get more players so when they all hit around 26 years old, LeBron will be done and then they can rule the east.
Now he rants on Ntilikina and then he balls like crazy just watch
Los Kantos I know right
he's doing it on purpose to make sure this kid balls, he is a new york fan lolol
Thomas Devon Whoops
Los Kantos 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you were wrong
Joe Perales bro what are you talking about look at more than base stats the dude is a future all nba defensive team for sure
Stephen A Smith didn't even metnion Donnovan Mitchell, yet he still talks to this day about how stupid the Knicks were dor not drafting him. STEPHEN A IF HE WASNT EVEN ON YOURE RADAR you can't blame the Knicks for not drafting him😂
Dan Golden facts
2 years later and looks like SAS wasn't wrong lol
I mean none of the players he mentioned amounted to anything lol. The real one they should have gone with was Donovan Mitchell.
I needed this
I hope Ntilikina shuts SAS up man
Nah, he garbage
fucking shit player
Ntilikina is trash.
Stephen Smith pulling another Porzingis...sigh. Will he ever learn??
yall still think gs is gonna win another chip
Michaelgaming190 of course
Michaelgaming190 of course there like the bulls of this generation but much better
warriors are trash and won't win another title.
Relax And Work relax and think lol come on even trolls know when to chill
Michaelgaming190 they're pretty much *destined* to win the chip in 2018 and 2019. But after that things could hopefully get interesting. The east might actually be the better conference in a couple years if you take into account us, philly, Milwaukee, Miami, etc
2 years later, SAS right on this one ☝🏾 happy new years.
This guy's 18 and is already at a pro level. He might turn to be good. The problem is that they passed on Dennis Smith and Malik Monk. I can already see this SAS rant on this guy going viral after he turns out as a great player on the Knicks just like Porzingis lmao
I loved the Knicks pick. I don't know why there is so much bitching. At least you aren't trading Porzingis.
John O'Malley because monk is better and so is smith.
John O'Malley frank is going to be a stud. People are sleeping on this kid
...yet
John O'Malley
Yall need to get rid of Melo. Knicks fans are delusional as fuck
Did you not watch the video at all? They stated clearly why they think he's not as good of a pick. SAS and Max both said he's good, but they passed up on picks that showed much more potential.
Ntilikina is taller than Fultz lol, so Stephen A should not talk about "this dude looks smaller than Adam Silver". Also Ntilikina is only 18, youngest in the draft I believe, similar to how Booker was the youngest in his draft. Also the dude has some real pro experience from Europe already in his age and the dude fits in the triangle. Now I personally would've drafted Monk or DSJ instead, but don't trash that kid before he can even prove himself. Kristaps was also criticized and eventually became the 2nd best of his draft.
dont even compare this guy to booker
he avg 5 points and 1.5 ast in FRANCE
Austin Campbell he's comparing the age coming into the draft
Booker was 18, Ntilikina was was also 18
Austin Campbell Porzingis average 6 ppg in europe yall dumb kids never even saw them play and talk shit after watching some stats watch them play a full game and then start to talk smfh
Devin DuBose thank you
4 years later:
Dennis smith jr is out the league
Zach Collins is a roll player
Finally Malik monk, missed the playoffs.
Frank is currently in the western conference finals being a roll player, critical for guarding curry and klay👏🏽
Yea let’s not act like Malik didn’t have the best season out of all the players you just named.
"Lord where Hernan-Gomez is from" hahahaha we love it when you rant Stephen A.
I just love how these two dudes try to explain how Ntilikina is not good enough despite having NEVER watched him play ! I bet you 800 bucks that these two guys never watched the kid play.
Electronic91 you'd think as a NBA analyst they'd do some hw on the top prospects
He never watched KP in Europe so he bashed him, now he’s bashing Frank. KP is a superstar and Frank is real good 3 and D guy
Frank has had one 20 point game since this day 😕
I just switched to ESPN and saw this exact same thing and Stephen A's rant was just as good
if he drafted dsj instead he would have been like "he has a bum knee! Torn acl! What a disgrace!" 😒
Dashooter911 average 19 points for Mavs what your point
plays 30 minutes (ntilikina plays 14), takes 15 shots a game, CAN't play Defense, dont induce ball movement, shoots 0.38% FG last 10 games, risky playstyle with his knees. don't compare stats right now, compare projection.
F Dre huh? You serious bro? You bugging. 😂
3:54 EMPIRICALLY INFFFEEERRRIORR
I go back to two rants that make me laugh sas on phil jackson bc as a 90s knicks fan I knew he was a snake & for a hysterical rant sir charles on the suns lol
I’m trying to figure out, SAS been saying he said the Knicks should’ve drafted Donovan Mitchell….he ain’t even mention him here. I smell cap
I didn't see the whole draft last night because I was working but I waiting to see SAS rant about Phil Jackson
I love it how Stephen A. seems so calm at the beginning, but then he get's heated so fast 😅
Will forever regret passing on Dennis Smith Jr. Mark it
SAS and his Knicks rants are the best part of First Take.
Every mock draft predicted ntilikina in the Knicks this isn't a surprise I was expecting this frank ntilikina fits what the Knicks need
Thank god the Knicks finally did right and got Dennis Smith Jr a year later in 2019. Frank will be lucky to get off the bench once we sign free agents. If Phil wasn’t in charge of the Knicks in 2017, no way we take Frank
This didn't age well.
De Ja Vu of 2015
SAS never learns...
cheeb87 nah frank trash
Lol @ Kellerman saying that Monk has more upside that Ntilikina.
People hate on players coming from overseas but eventually those gonna be the best players in the world
I love the pick personally. He's 18, has elite physical intangibles, plays defense, can shoot... what's not to like? The golden state warriors and the spurs win because they play a team game, european players are more skilled in that arena... I don't want to watch isolation ball anymore. Our window is in 4 years... jesus christ... that's when LeBron will be done and Porzingis will be IN HIS PRIME.
I can't get on board this with rage. Frank is going to be awesome.
....
Knicks fans are something else, all year long knicks fans were complaining about our defense now we get the best defender in the draft and you're all complaining even more
the guy is playing in a current playoff series in Europe pretty sure he will have good experience to play like Mudiay.
Stephen A Smith complaining about NYK not picking DSJ at 1:29. Well they have him now.
Well we will see if this kid can prove stephen a smith wrong just like prozingis I will be back here next year
lol he ranted on porzingis and then looked silly, same thing happening now with frank
Frank has great size 6'5..7'0 wingspan but that's all that I rave about. They should've went DSJ or Monk
thumbnail is pure gold. SAS looks like he´s about to release all hatred against Phil :D
Knicks fans are allowed to be rockets fans now. I welcome you all
HE CAN PULL UP FROM 30!! A true fan sticks with their team through thick and thin instead of jumping on the BANDWAGON.
None of these guys have played 1 game in the NBA and Stephen A thinks he's an expert on who's going to be good.
bigbullbk they said the same thing about KP actually...now he sucking his dick.....also most teams didn't think monk had that much upside since he fell out of the top 10 lol
Monk is 6"3, can't play point, can't defend, he can shoot but that's all there is to his game. The French kid has been playing professionally since 16 similar to KP, I mean look how KP turned out why not give them a shot to see how this kid will turn out. On a side note, you know who Stephen wanted the Knicks to take instead of KP in that draft? Justise Winslow, think about that for a sec. lmao
bigbullbk Monk was not asked to run the point. They had Fox. Monk played point in High School and was considered a non shooter because all he did was dunk and drive to the goal. Went to Kentucky and became the best shooter in college in less than a year. Monk will get stronger and possibly grow more. His Brother, Dad and Mom are 6-5 to 6-6.. No one plays Defense in the league. Monk offensive game is legit and will get better. The same people said Stephen Curry didn't have strong handles and was fragile. Look how that turned out. Malik steal of the draft.
"No one plays Defense in the league."
Tell that Lowry, Draymond, Gobert, Paul, Thompson, Leonard, Bradley, Allen, Iguodala, etc.
Mr. Shrewd really nighga no one plays defense in the nba league smh
When I saw the title I just sighed and said again?
Next year SAS will be saying that he never said this just like he did with Porzingis.
Phil Jackson has 11 NBA Championships.
Everyone on CZcams: "PJ doesn't know what the fuck he's doing."
Ryan Camarillo He got lucky to coach MJ and Kobe. He's a fucking joke.
Ryan Camarillo Have you seen what Phil Jackson has done since he took the job? There's a reason why people are saying that.
Ryan Camarillo so what? those 11 rings are not doing a damn thing to help the knicks. are you blind? have u seen what phil has done the last 3 years or so?
My impression of what he's done: inherited Carmelo, tried to build a team around him, signed some bad contracts. Didn't work, now getting rid of those contracts, and drafting young prospects like Porzingis and this French kid. Establish a young foundation to attract the next superstar. When he was coach, he was gifted Jordan and Kobe. Now he has to build it from scratch and it takes longer. His mistake is imparting strategy (triangle) onto the team.
Attract the next superstar? He's shown how he treats his stars AND young prospects. What star is going to be attracted by that? If you know that a cute girl cheats on the guys she with, are you gonna be attracted to her?
Stephen A. is just a unbelievable nationalist. Don't care about anything outside US and disrespects atheletes from abroad
Razor46 have you ever seen him play? You know how many busts come from Europe or overseas in general? Kristaps turned out to be very good, but almost nobody has ever seen him play before the draft. Same with this guy.
Razor46 right, Frank was a starter in a championship contender in France at 18 and made it to the National Team along Gobert, Batum and others...like porzings steven a will return his vest
What are the statistics on busts from overseas vs. the US?
Carson Wentz ask Anthony Bennett, Greg Oden and many more
You could say he wants to put America First like a certain President
I'm glad he brought up Dennis Smith Jr. SMDH at Phil Jackson
Phil Jackson please keep on doing what u do cause I love SAS fired up.. I'm 💀😂😂
Phil Jackson is pulling a Trump.
DoctorWong1979 pulling a genius move to irritate idiots?
Once again SAS that doesn't know shit about foreign players trying to say any american teenager is better. He did the same thing when Phil drafted Porzy.
Why does he talk about shit he doesn't know about? Wait and see if the kid can play. Who knows? He might the best player in this poor draft.
Mixamaka Poor Draft really Markelle Fultz Lonzo Ball Jayson Tatum Dennis Smith Jr Frankie boy come on now
Fultz? BALL??? Shut the fuck up pls
last year was a poor draft, this year is a good draft dude.
Hold up since when is being 6'5 PG with a 7'0 wingspan considered small?
did any one else watch the highlight tape on that other pick from Serbia. The dude is quick and explosive, needs to add muscle but I saw the same flashes as a raw talented young Steph curry. Deep 3's with the quick step back and he is a dunker and can drive some to the hoop, Passes and plays defense and rebounds, he does it all. Yeah it was against different level of talent but it looks promising!
*NTILIKINSANITY*
Months later, I’m glad we picked this kid over Monk and Jr. Frank is already the best defensive player from this draft. If his offense develops, which I think it will, he will be one of the most complete players in the draft
Jeremy Hayes
I'd take him over Monk but Smith Jr is better than him. But I'm worried with Smith Jr, he reminds me a lot of Derrick Rose and had injuries in High school and College. So picking Ntilikina wasnt an irrational choice. Malik Monk best case scenario is going to be a 6th man
Dudr was saying this shit about PorginzGOD last time. Just let them play before we can judge them
So much better when these guys stick to sports!
Phil Jackson is a GOD GM!!
He's made one good move and he is trying to undo it.
Personnaly, i live in France and i've seen him play during the french playoffs, and he is nothing spectacular, especially compared to dennis smith jr and malik monk.
Roman Pignol your watch an 18 year old play against grown men
COLin EDwarDs yes, i know, but i feel like if one of the two players i named played in france, they would have been way better, but you may be right maybe that's just a natural feeling by seeing play against better competition
Im pretty sure you didnt watch dennis smith and malik monk in real games only highlights, right? They have a lot of flaws in their game aswell.
@Hoodie PG who the fuck are you?
Hoodie PG U AIN'T FROM FRANCE NIGGA
Willy, KP and Ntilikina are the future of this franchise
somebody gotta add a compilation of phil jackson rants from stephen a lol
Phil is an 11 time nba champion as head coach! #GOAT! He can say whatever the fuck he wants! HATERS GONNA HATE!
Fuck What You're Talking About ! stop trolling
Fuck What You're Talking About ! You must be Phil's Secretary!! Hrs just collecting a check. Get him the fuck outta hea!!!!!
Bitch shut up
Did you watch the video? He brought the Knicks down from a 54 win team to absolute garbage. Hasn't rebuilt the franchise, but wants to start all over again.
i agree. preach, ny fans are you sad
On Nov 5th 2017, I really want to see how SAS react to Frank's clutch shots against Pacers lol.
Have you guys watched Ntilikina play at least? or you're just criticizing him because he's not playing in the US. I've watched this kid play and he's a future NBA Star.
Couldn't agree more with these guys
i only came here to hear Stephen A rant on Phil Jackson!!!!
I'm a simple guy. I see Stephen A and Phil Jackson in the title, I click.
Adam silver said, "every pick counts"
Lol you can tell Max is trying to make "IN-FE-RI-OR" his new catchphrase
Frank is the right piece to compliment with KP. You all said build around KP right?
SAS said the same thing about Porzingis. Let's hope what he says now about Ntilikina will make him as good or as even better than Porzingis!
Anyone else feel like this is deja vu after the Porzingus draft. Lol watch this kid turn into a star.
Only time will tell my friends
I couldn't agree more
I remember when Stephen A was complaining about Jeremy Lin going to the Knicks. Lol that was a funny time
It’s 2020 and Frank never panned out. Terrible pick by the Knicks...Knox will follow the sane path
Julian Xhori have you heard of players like Donovan Mitchell, Bam Adebayo, Luke Kennard, Jarrett Allen, OG Anunoby, Kyle Kuzma, or Josh Hart??? All drafted after Frank and all better players than him.
Julian Xhori honestly, I think zack Collins and Malik monk can become better role players than Frank can. And if DSJ can have a better coach (Tom Thibs!) he can become an effective 6th man. Until Frank develops a consistent 3 point shot, his defense isn’t worth it.
Did Max really say that Monk has higher upside than Frank??? Frank is a 6'5 point guard with crazy length and he's got a three point shot.
Screaming A. smith cowboy and knick rants are the greatest
Also what's funny 2 years later in hindsight, Ntilikina is average at best, Porzingis is traded to the Mavs and one of the players they got back is Dennis Smith Jr. Bizarre lol
I think this is an unexpected pick. but an extremely solid pick. if he sits behinds Derek rose, and we keep Holliday and lee, with Carmelo and porzingiz we have a solid squad. we just need a couple solid forward to defend and hit the boards and we are ok
He made a good point about getting a starter every year
We are in the year 2017 but in Phil Jackson's mind, we are still back in 1997 mentally! Phil Jackson lives in the past and pray that he can go see a therapist!
he's spitting on the mic again
i'm french , been following Frank for a while he can be the next Tony Parker . His name doesnt sound enough american to some people like Steven A Smith but you won't regret it Knicks fan trust me
Max talking about Malik Monk, but other times he always shits on players who are only pure scorers
So I posed these questions to Stephen A on Twitter,
1) how do you limit the upside of a 18 year old kid playing pro ball, he's not even done growing! Are you saying a player still physically developing had reached his peak already! He's literally playing with talent better than the Sixers teams at the start of "The Process"
2) how are you pleading for DennisSmith Jr, a player for a losing team, who scouts say does not make players around him better over a player that scouts are saying the opposite of!
3) who has less of an upside, the 18 year old pro, or the guy whose game is predicated on athleticism but has already torn his ACL!
4) does he realize the team that drafted Dennis Smith Jr was trying to move in front of The Knicks to draft Frank!!! They actually hired his old coach in anticipation of drafting him!!
I wont question his drafting skills but you got Dennis Smith Jr and Monk on the board kinda hard for me to pass on them
A lot of people passed on dennis smith and malik monk there is a reason
Dennis Smith and Porzingus would have been an insane pairing
DSJ plays no defense, frank does. im happy with this pick but passing up on monk bothered me alot