Fix Your Scratchy Drawings!
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- Masters can use scratchy lines with confidence and on purpose. For the rest of us, there are a few things we can do to make better quality lines with intention.
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"don't move your hand faster than you can think." this is and has always been my problem.
I've been there!
Me too. Surprisingly helpful tip.
Since I've used mostly digital, scratching around until I get the rough shape of what I want and then erasing to clean it up has usually been my way of working.
Wait you have to think when drawing ?
@@ProkoTVthise srawings you showed at the beginning of the boat and faces don't look amateurish to me..they look pretty good..am i missing something..hope yiu can respond when you can. Thanks for sharing.
"These lines express... a feeling of anxiety."
Well, yes, that's what I was feeling when I made them.
Especially pen drawings lol
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LMAOOO
@@Dannydave43yeah when your outlining
bold of you to assume i'm thinking anything when i draw
😂
I usually just go: F*ck it we ball
Yeah I did not realize we were supposed to be thinking when we sketch. I kind of just thought people are able to look at something a copy it down exactly..... Thinking about how shapes interact would be helpful.
I of bold draw anything i'm assume you when to thinking
When I was younger and used to draw I’d keep the image in my head and trace it on paper. If that makes sense. I had to do a ADHD test or something like that and they would put shapes down and would pick them up & tell me to draw them on the paper. Id draw the exact shape & size right where they was last at because I still had the image in my head. Sadly i haven’t drawn anything in years seriously besides graffiti on my walls in my basement.
Love how he says "you're not a master.. yet" telling us that he believes in us
Dang right I do!
love the positifvity man ^^@@ProkoTV
"Fix your scratchy lines!"
"No." (But said with confidence)
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
No (with rizz)
Grow up
@@sabsain2399it’s a joke 😭
I actually stood by this. I would definitely not consider myself a master yet but I use the scratchy lines to, as he said, express a feeling or anxiety/chaos
"Dont move your hand faster than your brain can think"
My ADHD azz: "thats not the issue"
Same here. Gotta draw fast or I’ll lose all my stamina and end up with unfinished sketches.
Yes it is
Just because we find it harder to concentrate doesn’t mean we can’t try to learn
When my adhd hit i have to go play guitar fast next coding next making something in 3d fast fast i rly need help 🤣
Hand can’t keep up with all the thoughts and ideas lol😂
I just love making my drawing look sketchy, it feels so smooth and elegant
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
@@potatocornsplease2383art is unjudgeable and you have no right to tell people what way is correct rephrase your shit
@@potatocornsplease2383how bout no, Imma keep drawing pron with messy line because i like it
i heavily agree, it can definitely evoke emotion when that is the want of the artist but avoid it, art is interpretable but don’t make unnecessary strokes.
@@evanlukas1 okay yes but no. if you're doing things indeliberately they can cause a undesirable outcome. this video is on how to fix the mistake of accidentally making your work sketchy, if youre doing it on purpose thats your choice.
I knew a guy who used a ball point pen and lots of little lines and scribbles to make the most beautiful art. He made me a peice with a water dragon attaking a ship in a very turbulent sea in about 15 minutes and every line was perfectly placed. He was also a musical genius and built his own guitars. The gifts some people have is mind blowing.
I too mostly draw with really cheap ballpoint pens xD wouldn't claim to be as good with drawing tho, but I have gotten some incredibly high praise for my sense of imagination by art teachers and fellow art students alike 👀
@@HotchpotchsoupYou post your arts in Instagram ? I like drawings from ballpointpen
Calling them "searching lines" just called me out on a personal level I didn't realise was possible
Gotcha! ❌
Searching isn't always bad but hopefully you find what you're looking for when you do it!
Same here!! I find myself using these ‘searching lines’ mostly throughout my sketches, and I’d attribute that to my aphantasia. I sort of feel out the shape of what I’m drawing on the page and search less and less as the basic idea comes into view. Thumbnail sketches help a lot! Sometimes you just gotta let your hand search for the spot you know feels right.
Me too!!!
@@ProkoTV I make all these searching lines and then I choose which is the best one :p
it’s true ❤
I didn't know short scratchy lines were considered a mistake, I always loved the rougher look more than the final result for some reason
It's only a mistake if you're aiming to make the smooth lines and are landing on scratchy lines, like so many beginners. If you're doing it on purpose and getting exactly what you envision, you're nailing it and that's no mistake at all!
it’s one of my favorite styles because it looks so alive
i used to animate in that style. i think it sometimes looks better because the brain can visualise what it needs to from the roughness.
Same as I
There is actually a reason why you prefer the 'rougher look'. If you have a lot of lines on top of one another, your brain chooses the best line and presents it to you as a "main" line. And for the end result you have only one line to go with
This "yet" was the Most Motivating thing i ever Heard in this month.
i love scratchy lines. they express anxiety and lack of confidence, giving the art a frantic look
that is exactly what i convey with my art
I’m not a master but I like the look of the scratchy light lines I love the style and how it looks it adds more character to my drawing
Nothing wrong with some intentionally made scratchy lines like we said in the video.
We're just trying to help people get the exact result they intend to get when they put a tool to the page 😁
so, youre not wrong but not right but the short, scratchy lines can lead to lack of confidence on lines, you can input that to your final drawings but you can try to practice confident, shaky lines to make your lines much more confident. this is just an opinion
It can be very dynamic! Sometimes you can convey movement this way, mimicking the way the eye can't fully see every detail when things are moving fast.
I also like how scratchy lines look like!
@@galaxystar666all a beginner style, make your lines more confident, no one looks at the sketch 😭
You leave my chaotic searching lines alone. 😂 I use them to get my idea out before I get distracted with life and never return to the piece. The sketch can then be refined once or twice into a more solid piece and followed better for clear lineart, but when you don’t literally live off of your art, chaotic lines are just fine to get the idea out there before the inspiration is gone.
Frrr using those chaotic lines for my sketches helps me so much getting my art onto paper. I can always make the finished piece looking clean afterwards but especially for the sketch it's just so helpful
Can relate to this with my writing, my initial blurbs are atrocious but they get the ideas out and secure before I forget it minutes later.
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
Even when just sketching, line quality is important to learn. If an artist do not learn line quality while just practicing then when? A final peice is when applying skills not learning. You have to learn the rules before you break them or at least while you break them.
@@potatocornsplease2383 Cool, bro.
That wasn’t the point of this post. Wrong person to bring this energy to.
I like to combine chaotic searching lines with short scratchy lines to make a "going insane/skeptical"artstyle
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
I love chaotic lines when they align perfectly to make an image. It's mesmerizes me when I see chaos and order at the same time
I felt loved in that "yet"
just a reminder to everyone that if its intentional/how you like to draw and are doing it intentionally, its not a mistake. its not "wrong" to have your own style at all, this just means if you want smoother lines and are unintentionally doing it
👍
Lol within reason, sure.
Nobody was talking about style❤
@edwardhisse2687 for some people, scratchy art/chicken scratching is their style. thats why im saying its ok if you are doing it on purpose, not unknowingly
he said it already. Do it if you know what you re doing. But drawing clear lines are fundamentals to improve your overall skill. Thats the point. Beginners should always start with clear lines
My art professor's entire drawing curriculum was about getting you to draw faster than you can think. He called it dwawing with your squirrel brain. It worked, for me and for the rest of the class. Think 30 and 60 second drawings. Over and over.
The moral of the story is to do what works for you.
This was definitely a big part of art school.
Those are gesture drawings and that’s not at all what this guy is talking about.
@felicianomiko5659 It is a learning technique to prevent the kind of short scratchy lines and long searching lines talked about in this video. Literally the exact same thing.
I personally like these lines. They tell the thought process, a story in itself.
i actually love scratchy line drawings. i think they have charm and autheticity to them.
Me too. Especially this it’s in pen.
This is how I draw. I’m glad someone thinks alike
say you are beginner without saying you are beginner
@@q_kyu_ nah. I just prefer this style, I can do single lines if I want, but generally I don’t.
@@q_kyu_no, people have different styles
I honestly love the scratchy lines in both beginners and masters
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
@potatocornsplease2383 why are you spamming this in multiple threads
@@potatocornsplease2383art doesn’t have rules
@@brianjacobs2748only non artists think this
That "yet" was a really nice touch ❤
What has been helping me a lot is that instead of trying to be accurate, I'm focusing on representing what I want to represent through my drawing. It's good for a beginner to focus on fundamentals first, but eventually you'll realize that you can't just rely on fundamentals to draw.
That was good solid advice for artists of all stages.
I don’t necessarily agree. Some people use short scratchy lines or smooth but long chaotic lines as a part of their artstyle
That's mentioned in there! It can be great when used with intention.
It's when people are scratching while not trying to draw like that where it becomes a problem.
@gaboshkaboi6885 oh its 100% good advice. It's not a style if it's not a choice. A style is intentional manipulation of proportions, shading, and line work that creates a style. If one can't choose because they never learned how well they are putting weighted shoes on becoming their own blockade.
The best thing to do is not get defensive, but to understand as many artists have to unlearn what they once did to actually develope a true style. It's why channels like these exist they are to teach.
@@gaboshkaboi6885he literally mentioned that
@@houndgirl7365 Never at any point did I say that people that people that use it as a part of their style do accidentally. When I said a "part of their style" it means doing it on purpose. His advice in not that great. He says that "when you are a master you can use chaotic lines but if you are not a master..." The idea that you have to draw a certain way only unless you have reached a certain level of skill is wrong and misguided. If you don't try new things and don't go out of your comfort zone, you can't improve. I'm not getting defensive, i don't even use chaotic or scartchy lines myself, but his advice can be very misleading to someone that is new to art. So no, I do not agree, this is Ok advice, but definetley not 100% great for somone new to art.
"Assuming you're not a master... YET"
Dang, my confidence grew a lot!
Masters went through the same damn thing you're going through, but the more you draw the more you learn...
oh my god finally someone who explains situations and doesn't just tell me to "keep practicing", thank you so much😭
I don’t think I’m a master but I do love using chaotic lines in a confident way for expressive stuff or drawing from life and I don’t think it makes me look like a noob cause I often get people asking me how I do it lol. It’s super fun if you can get the hang of it. But for precise illustrative stuff or digital or animation all of those tips definitely apply and have helped me improve SO much
Mastering is a journey, not a destination! If you're using them in a way that's intentional and that you like, you're doing GREAT!
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
@@potatocornsplease2383 very true
I’m so glad you acknowledged that it can be an actual style and not just saying “CHICKEN SCRATCH BAD!”
Yeah! It can be used to great effect when done on purpose!
I like how those lines look, thats why I do them.
I love the look of violent yet percise sketches
Small scratchy strokes always looks cool to me, if someone showed me 2 versions of the same drawing the sketch and the lineart, I'd most likely love the sketch more
"dont move your hand fast than you can think"
*proceeds to spend 15 days drawing 1 line*
Me who doesn't think while I draw: 💀
@@moldy_shrimpExactly i jest rely completely on muscle memory 💀
Man's a worm
Think & draw? or not think and draw? is the question!
Your advice is always so helpful! I've been in a drawing slump for awhile, but seeing you break everything into smaller steps has been so helpful that I'm inspired to start drawing again. Thank you so much. You do amazing work 🧡
I have been in a slump for a while since wow I looked an it up on my book /note book and it says April 15th I did not know it was that long good luck
The "anxiety look" is my art style, it feels great it's like therapy to me
I’ve tried slowing down when I sketch and it legitimately just helps a lot
I think it depends on how the scratchy lines are used and how well it fits the picture. Sometimes, chaotic lines and scratchy lines look pretty appealing when used correctly.
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
I will be drawing very, very slow from now on. "Don't move your hand faster than your brain can think."
A tip for new artists!: when ur drawing something u wanna start off with simple shapes like a circle for a head or a circle with rectangles as fingers (draw the shapes lightly) then u wanna add more detail into the shape and erase the original shapes! Hope this helped some people
„ assuming you're not a master... *yet* ”
I needed that
I like to use different lines for different moods. Scratchy lines for angsty drawings, smoother lines for calmer drawings, more chaotic lines for angry drawings, ect.
I'm a simple man, I see Karl Kopinski's art, I press like
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When tips are told properly, they can be really helpful. Personally I hate it when people tell me the ‘correct’ way to draw, so I try it and if it works for me I use it but not of the time it doesn’t.
“Don’t move your hands faster than your brain can think.” I like that
Scratchy lines lead to a more spontaneous looking result. Yes, it will be messy but messy can be as correct as it can be wrong depending on what you want the result of be. Just try different things and work outside your comfort zone whatever that may mean for you. That's how you'll improve.
+ADHDER looks up+ 'not faster than my brain can think' you say? Challenge Accepted!
I'm right there with you! #ADHDfam
It’s also about training your hand into getting used to these lines! I know that for the life of me, making straight lines was incredibly hard and look at me now! It’s still hard lol but i’ve found techniques that make my strokes a lot cleaner and confident regardless
I'd genuinely love to have a "chaotic/messy" style they always look so fun!
I'm definitely a chaotic lines person. Never heard anyone else call it out lol. But I do use it to help with proportions very quickly before I do the "real" sketch
i used to get praised in school for my searching lines but they were rlly extreme 😂
I like the look of anxiety in art. The entire point of any art form is expressing yourself or your idea
then these tips aren’t for you 😱
"Don't move your hand faster than your brain can think."
Well, thing is, my hand can't keep up with my brain. Gotta take time to slow it down but by the time I get back to drawing lines it starts reving back up lol
You're such a great teacher. Putting things to words that I think about a lot but can't articulate. :)
I always love it whenever people say "... yet!" I don't know why but it fills me with genuine confidence it's nice tbh
“A feeling of anxiety and a lack of confidence”
you know me so well
Thank you guys for stating this. I hate it when people call line petting their style, but thats the only thing they can do. A style is sometying one develops over time when they learn how to do clean lines, know proportions, and know how to do lighting so that they can then manipulate it.
Yes art is expression, but before we can run we must walk.
People often confuse happy accidents for good art results. If that's all they'd like to do, then they should!
But I hope we help teach people how to make makes on a page intentionally.
I get where you’re coming from, and I do mostly agree with your definition of a style. But in my case, due to genetics, I have constant hand tremors. I’m only 18, and already it’s at the point where even medication doesn’t suppress it completely. I seriously doubt that I’ll ever be able to consistently do clear lines, as the condition only gets worse with age. I like being able to draw though, so while I am confined to line petting, I’ve chosen to embrace it because it’s better than lamenting the loss of a skill I once had.
@@zoelea4265 that's an exception for you.
If you can't do it. It's not for you. He is saying for other.
Is this early?
Kinda yes
more like on time
thats first
@@O1Artyeah
The last time I saw a video on this subject, it wreaked havoc on my confidence because I've always been chaotic in my methodology and my hands started shaking periodically after I had COVID. It's a relief to see that you've differentiated between the two types of scratchiness. For newer artists: confidence is way more important than having your art mirror a specific style, but do practice longer, more confident strokes. Doesn't have to be a figure drawing. Can just be sketchbook pages full of shapes and lines. I've been doing that all year to rebuild after COVID.
This video put words to the biggest problem I've had for a while now! Thank you.
Will you invite Karl kopinski again? i keep waiting.
He's a busy man!! But sometime soon, hopefully!
I think ill stick to my scratchy lines :)
i like my messy lines, shows me my mistakes and how i can fix then :)
GREAT ADVICE! I felt my future artist self look back at this moment with relief. Thanks for making this
When I first started using this it made a MASSIVE difference
Ngl I don’t personally love how smooth and Disney-like your illustrations are, I like the scratchy ones better
Slowing down and making myself think about it actually made drawing much more enjoyable, because it became less about chance and a lot more about deliberately making things I want.
I like the chaotic searching line when i'm doodling cause it just helps me get the idea onto the paper
The idea, at least in part, behind blind contour drawing is it makes you much more confident in making longer more deliberate and accurate strokes. I watched another artist on CZcams with at least 1M subs and he spoke for like 20 minutes defining blind contour drawing and did not once mention that it serves to provide confidence in creating longer more accurate strokes. Low and behold, his drawings consist of tiny scratchy lines. I couldn’t believe none of his million viewers called him out on it.
That arm contour drawn in one fell swoop meant serious business. That really took me aback.
I love the deliberate scratchy style. It's one of the styles I wanna learn. But, there's also something to learn from moving your hand faster than you can think...again, at least deliberately. I don't recall the guy's name, but there's an older aisian man who makes abstract drawings truly from imagination. They're beautiful.
"these lines express a feeing of anxiety and a lack of confidence"
yes thats exactly what i was feeling when drawing thank you very much
I think this made me realize why my sketches look better than the actual colored in drawing.
this made me discover something about myself
I only found your channel a few days ago but I've fallen in love with it thank you so mouch.
Exactly what i needed to hear, thank you!
Every single error mentioned here is the summary of my struggle when I started out. Not that I'm an expert now, It was frustrating then. I still tend to do this at times.
This has basically been the foundation of my drawing skills since forever. Trusty technique!
The fact that u drew a tortoise makes me so happy
I wish I'd never moved away from scratchy lines.. it gave my older work such a style that these days I'm trying to retrain myself to achieve.. but to each their own.
Thats exactly what i want to show in some of my artwork, im a type of artist who usually draws creepy, sad, or angry things i always use chaotic lines to show the emotion im trying to portray. Its really interesting how lines effect how your art looks!
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
When done deliberately it can add character, however it obvious to tell the difference between the rough linework work of a pro and the anxious/uncertain linework of a beginner. Learn the rules before you break them. It is not a stylistic choice if you could not choose better even if you tried.
I love having a chaotic and anxiety induocing line, it just FEELS a certain way i love
I love chaotic lines, makes my art look better
The more I listen to this song, the more I like it.
Yessssssss
Personally I just really love how chaotic and good it looks lol
I just like the way they look. General I draw like you say to first, and then go over it with shorter chaotic strokes because it looks cool.
This definitely makes sense! … but I love to embrace chaotic lines haha sometimes they lead to happy accidents and warping that I didn’t know I needed or wanted to see
I love making scratchy drawings, it adds to the aesthetic of my drawings especially when I'm making horror art
I do all 3 and have been a slef taught artist (hobby not professional) for years and i use those as a sketch layer and once i have the shape i like, i erase extra lines and go back over the line i think fits so it looks neat
And those lines are exactly what my art needs to give off
“Don’t move your hand faster than you can think” My hands going to be moving an inch every year then
I’ve figured out the perfect time and way of lining and I love it
You know what just teach me not to judge my perspective of art
I think chaotic lines are super beautiful
Loved this!! ❤❤ I absolutely want to see more ruin challenges!
Ugh i LOVE chaotic lines. lol my favorite. i love rough and almost unfinished looking art.
I use scratchy lines for my art. It’s horror based art and it gives the drawing a feeling of it being rushed, as if the person drawing didn’t have much time left. I love trying to add a story behind my horror drawings, and scratchy or rushed lines really helps :)
I always use chaotic lines in my sketches because they aren’t completes works and thus don’t need to look neat. I love how chaotic it looks, it makes me happy
i use the rougher "searching lines" to try and mark off where i want a circle to be so i can get a kid when i decide to ink it. or to make the proportions easier to see on some things.
I'm so happy that even tho this touches on how scratchy chicken scratch lines CAN still be used deliberately with confidence. I've seen too many people forget that while it can be something that shows lack of confidence with newer artists doesn't necessarily mean it can't be a skill.
I’m assuming you’ve also been on that side of art tiktok lol. But I agree! Though I still also agree that it can be a symptom of lacking line confidence and could hinder one’s work
It’s just like how my old art teacher used to say “Break down your drawings into shapes, that way it can be more easier”
I've always found it better to think more with how im feeling than actully you know- thinking. Thats why i usually draw while litsening to a specific song, it helps me get a vibe for the drawing, and that usually helps me decide how scratchy or elegant my lines are