DualSense Revision Comparison: BDM-010 vs 020 vs 030 vs 040 | PS5 Controller Versions
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- There are four versions of the PS5 DualSense controller (so far). Often called V1 V2 V3 V4 or Gen 1 2 3 4. In the video, I put them all side by side and compare the differences; both the outsides and the insides. It includes a partial teardown, and I show how to tell which version you have.
00:00 What This Video is About
00:48 How to Tell Which Version You Have
02:02 Outside Differences
03:59 Inside Differences
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Do you have any info like this on Dualsense Edge?
Perhaps I'll look at the Edge in a future video. It's an expensive investment.
Can’t wait till they drop model BDSM-010 🔥🔥
I'll skip it to get BDSM-069.
Just bought mines a couple of days ago.
with the BDSM-020, you don't play the game... the game plays you ;)
I love very specific, very informative videos like this
Damn so my black controller is actually still a Gen 1 controller! Cool. I did buy it in 2021. So my white controller that came with the console is still unused and probably a Gen 1 for sure. I do want a new controller but I don't need it so I won't buy it. But if I ever do need one I'll keep all this info in mind. Thank you.
Good luck getting stick drift on the gen 1 models
@@HCIbnluckily my gen 1 hasn’t had any issues. *knocks on wood* The only controller that’s ever done that for me is my switch controllers, 2 pairs so far. My other 2 pairs are still okay
I bought my black dualsense in May of 2021, it's a Gen 1. I've used it since I got it and just last week I noticed a very very small amount of stick drift in my left stick. I'm 37 years old, never dropped it and take care of my electronics. I'm not upset though, 3 years old of playing 5 days a week isn't bad. Now I don't know if i just get a new one or wait and use the one that comes with the pro whenever it comes out.
@@SeanTK000 my dualshock 4 from 2015 still works like it's brand new the quality on these dualsense controllers is horrendous
I noticed a gen 3 controller has better button feel as well as trigger feel/quieter operation vs gen 1. Just feels more refined.
Absolutely comprehensive comparison and teardown of each models, you are the GOAT. Video is super drtailled and well explained! Definitely subscribed!
Thanks for the great video. 👍
Thanks. I didn't not realize so many people would be interested.
That's crazy, I just purchased a broken controller from the eBay user you showed in the beginning of your video. I needed to find a GEN 3 board to replace a board I damaged soldering new hall-effect sticks on. I didn't know about the serial number trick but I did see a comparison of 3 controllers showing you can identify based on the big symbols on the back and matched it to a replacement controller selling on eBay for $27.
Cool. Now if you have access to the QR code, I suggest using that instead of using symbols. If they release a 5th gen, it may not follow the symbol method, but the QR method will most likely work fine.
Where did you buy hall effect sticks?
@@RiccardoGrc I can't post links in comments because youtube will probably hide it. I order on "AE". You might be able to find elsewhere.
Great video. Very simple to understand
Thanks for this, good job!
Good video!
Huh! Neat video.
I got a PS5 Slim and just scanned the QR code on the white DualSense that came bundled with it.
It seems I have a Gen 3 controller.
Really informative, thank you! I just wanted to provide a small tidbit, Sony announced the Deep Earth collection in September 2023 and I bought one in November 2023 so they were available prior to 2024 as well 👍 Hope you have a good week! :)
I find this video, interesting, very educational and epic awesome. Thanks for the video.
Fascinating.
Thank you!
My BDM-010 That came with my launch console has silver screws, not black. I only had to replace the trigger springs because one snapped. Still works great! I wish I could limit battery charge to 40% or at least 75% or something since I almost always have it plugged in and I don't want to wear the battery quickly.
Also, my battery in the controller is not upside down.
You showed the gen 2 in the gen 1 spot at 7:36
That is exactly what I was thinking! I have a 020 just for PC gaming using the USB Cable, sometimes I remember and feel kinda uncomfortable because I play for weeks without using it wireless.
I just started connecting it to my phone so it can drain some battery, also playing some casual games like Minecraft using Bluetooth, however, I don't play long enough to drain it to 0.
Does the ps5 controller package that its bought in contain any form of serialnumber or model number on the box itself, or is there another way of determining what generation the controller is before buying?
Good question, would be good to know but I doubt sellers would give this info, unless of course it's printed on the box
Thanks ❤
Are ribbon cables that connect to the trigger mechanisms interchangeable between gen1 and gen2?
Any particular version used on ps5 slim or it’s just random?
I’m in need of a new dual sense controller for SF6
Could u do a video on different version of the dualsense edge?
Perhaps one day. That may be an expensive investment.
I wish they would release a black version
So which one should we buy?
I've noticed slight noise sounds from the headphone jack on early DualSense controllers (more noticeable in a menu, such as the system menu, when the music is turned off. It buzzes a little when a sound effect plays and then when going back to mute). Was this ever improved in the later releases?
I haven't heard anything about it, but I wonder if anyone has tested the jack. Perhaps I could have but I didn't think of it.
I have this issue on one of my gen 2s. The headphone jack doesn’t make a good contact with the plug, so it creates popping and buzzing.
i thought that the analog sticks of the newer gen (ps5s and red) some how feel more 'tactile' for some reason when i first use them. So they actually undergone some minor changes over the years. Thanks.
They didn't feel different to me; not saying that you are wrong though.
All my 3 of my DualSenses are gen 1s. None have really gave any issues so far *knock on wood*, and all of them are around 3 years old
My gen 1 is still going strong
Than you for this video. I wanted to know about the different versions they’ve made so far.
You should of used 4 of the same colors imo. The standard white. Just for consistency I guess.
Also manufacturing variance could have a lot to do with the difference in feeling too. I have 2 white controllers, 1 bought separately and one that came with the console, a purple, and a God of War controller. They all feel different from each other.
People have also noticed the launch controllers are much heavier than the later models. My nephew have a black OG model that is heavy and has a better build quality than all my 2nd generation controllers and his white 2nd generation controller. It’s an obvious difference. 2nd gen still feels good and high quality. It’s the launch controllers were probably made with a bit better materials.
They aren’t though, gen1 has less battery. Probably the only difference
@HowToX Can you tell what Gen the controller is inside the box without opening it? The box underneath has CFI-ZCT1W written and there is a POS Car Code next to it. I wonder if it is possible to understand the model / Gen without opening the box. I fit is an old version, I'd return. The controller is in Cosmic Red colour.
I doubt there is a way to do it with the box. From what I know, the serial number isn't on the box.
So none of those versions fix the drift problem? 😓
But how about the durability? Is gen 4 less prone to stick drift?
Same question here
Gen 1, 2, and 3 have different touchpads, I'm not sure about gen 4 though, was hoping to see that in here. Otherwise great vid! 👍
How To X, I have a question. Is it possible to swap the shells between a Midnight Black and a Volcanic Red controller? I want to use the Midnight Black joysticks but with a Volcanic Red shell. (I own both, but the sticks on the Midnight Black are smoother).
EDIT: Seems like the answer is 'no' after watching.
If they are the same gen, then yes. Don't depend on color to determine gen though. Got to scan the QR code.
Would you be able to tell the version from the box as well?
I had the boxes, but did not want to assume all boxes are printed the same way as mine. Especially when you consider worldwide distribution.
I got 2(both gen 2)/3(gen 3) controllers with drift already, I'm considering getting a Volcanic Red cause it looks dope!
It does look nice, but I don't think it'll fair any better as far as drift.
V5 hall-effect joysticks are the way to go. It will never get drift because there is nothing to rub against wearing down the potentiometers.
@@syn80 Interesting! I'll look into it!
ohhhh, yesterday I bought a dualsense gen 3 without noticing it, the first time I had a dualsense in my hands was in a local gaming shop and for me, the controller was too big and needed better ergonomics, when this new controller got delivered I was going crazy about "this is not what I remember about the dualsense, this one is different?"
thank you, I was going crazy about it for an entire day.
Quick question what about the microphone I have a gen 2 black model and I wanna know if the microphone from gen 3 works on 2
The speaker touch pad microphone and charging port on the front are all the same they only changed the wires to the adaptive triggers so everything else is interchangeable.
@@ryans413 thank you very much I appreciate it ☺️
Gen 1 to Gen 4 Still Potentiometer They could Atleast Change That to Hall Effect, Hopefully Gen 5 Controller Comes out.
I could immediately tell the difference between gen 2 and gen 4 controller by just holding it. Gen 4 felt more lighter and more hollow than gen 2 but i think gen4 have better trigger and rumble effect. I still prefer gen 2 as weight distribution of the controller feels balanced but gen 4 feels really top heavy.
I like that gen 4 is slightly lighter because it dosnt hurt my hands overtime. My gen 1 controller is heavy and after an hour or two it cramps my hands.
I feel on my Gen 1, the options and create buttons are easier to press and feel tactile like mechanical while on both my gen 2 and gen 3 controller it feels mushy and require more force to press.
Thought it was just me. I have like 5 different controllers and my launch controller just feels better than the rest
@@DistinctionDino my gen 1 is the launch one too. Only the option and create button feels better to me. It keeps getting drift issue but cleaning the potentiometer helps get rid of it for a while. All my other controllers just fell better with haptic feedback and even the triggers themselves.
@@izhanshafiq324 hmmm mine doesn’t have any issues at all. It’s my favorite one to use besides the edge.
Still using my Gen 1 black controller. So glad to read stuff like this. I got my white controller that came with the console in 2021 too. Keeping that for when my current one starts having issues.
the old ones the black around the thumbs sticks that comes out to reveal screws is glossy on new ones it’s matt
Gen 1 has the glossy part the rest of the generations it’s matt
BDM010 Here fully modded Controller with Halleffect Sticks btw day 1 Edition PS5
Also, are the Gen 4 potentiometers also by ALPS? Looks like they finally changed them?
Maybe I should have zoomed in on them, but regardless of the brand, it's still the "trash can" design that has plagued most of the controllers of this generation.
Sony only uses ALPS or Favor Union (orange color potentiometers)
@@syn80 favor Union are horrible..
@@izhanshafiq324 both are horrible compared to hall-effect sticks
What kind do the PS3 controllers use because I have an original PS3 controller from 2007 and it has no stick drift it still works. I’ve probably gone through 5 PS5 controllers in 2 years
I have two dualshock 3 controllers that has analog sticks you don't have to solder. All you do take out the old ones and pop in new ones. Of course my other controllers have to be soldered.
I Think .. that blob on Gen 4 is to reduce the plastic sound when the adaptive trigger is active.. I find the sound to be annoying abit .. BUT I don't have Gen 4 , currently using Gen 3... sooo that's might not be the case
The rattle sound or the clicks sound. When I first played a game which had the adaptive triggers i thought my controller was broken. Gen 1 makes a crazy amount of rattling noises Gen 2 and 3 have like a clicking noise. Gen 4 still has a noise but is a lot more silent.
My cobalt blue gen 4 controller got major stick drift 3 months in lol
I'm amazed that my pads sound exactly like your 😂😂Gen 1 pads
I got a PS5 and couple controller in 2023, one of the controllers was a gen 1 and the other, a gen 2, but the serial number for my third controller had f3?
Yes my Black one too
I scanned the QR code on my black controller and it came up with F4 followed by a bunch of other numbers so I guess have a gen 4 controller
Yep, it's a gen 4.
I bought a Spider-man 2 bundle and it's a 3rd Gen.
I have a Gen3 controller but when I scanned the QR for the serial number, It has a 2 so I think that's not a reliable way to look at which gen you have
Can you clarify how you know it's a Gen 3?
Please do ps4 as well!
i have 2 f43 an 1 g33 does that mean i have 2 gen 4 an 1 gen 3 controller i cant find anything about them online
Correct
In terms of battery they're similar yea?
I was hoping for a battery test. Supported ones sold as V2 last longer. I recently got one and it’s gen 4. But I haven’t compared the battery to my older gen 2 yet.
So which version is the best ?
fr
My conclusion is that there are not different enough, but we can speculate that Sony made revisions for good reasons, so if I had to choose I'd get the newest model 040.
For me Gen 1 is the best. When you move the sticks with my gen one they dont make any sound. But the other ones make a annoying sticky sound.. hate it.
I've been through about 3 or 4 DualSenses due to Stick drift now. I suppose I could actually make a fully working controller using parts from the broken ones
You really should consider buying some thumb grip covers and use those to retrain your thumb strength.
the potentiometers just need cleaning,that should get rid of the stick drift
@@keithmaguire7065which requires dismantling the controllers and risking breaking those small wires and taking off the sensors on the thumb sticks is not easy and can be easily broken.
@@ryans413 the soldering on the wires is actually decent so you just have to be a little careful, I'd be more worried about the ribbons because they're so tiny
Mine has a f not a g, does the f stand for 4th gen?
In terms of determining what gen, all you need to worry about is the second digit.
im gonna buy a ps5 slim soon , which version is gonna come inside ?
We won't know until someone buys one and scans the QR code. Well, you also can't assume they will all be the same too.
Probably a Gen 4
PS5 Slim includes a BDM-040 Dualsense
@@UchihaDareNial yeah I saw that yesterday when it came
@@ryans413 yea you’re right
Like always/expected 1st run of product is build the best. No cost savings.
Where in the video is that so? They're just different, not better than each other.
@@more_less The component quality. Looks more sturdy + PCB layout and cables. Too much cables on new to save some penny.
The first run is typically not the one you want from a product production point of view but in some cases the first version has the most expense components and design. Subsequent versions refine and reduce costs and improve reliability.
PCB board changes are fairly inexpensive $ but any plastic/mold changes are only done if absolutely necessary as a new tool must be created $$$.
@@ricepony33If the changes are small enough the pre-existing plastic mould can just be modified. Which saves a lot money.
The original controller to my console is Gen 1. Same is the actual console, Gen 1. And my other 2 controllers are both Gen 4
And it don’t matter what generation you have they all get stick drift after like 6 months so dam annoying
@@ryans413havnt had any drift at all with heavy use for years
So my dualsense edge is is a B10? I highly doubt that.
This video does not cover the Edge. It likely has a different serial number scheme.
Which version do you think is the best ?
None they all get stick drift over time it’s annoying but Gen 4 is slightly lighter and I felt a difference gaming for a few hours compared to the Gen 1 controller that came with my console. Some like heavier controllers but it hurts the hands overtime the slightly lighter Gen 4 is nice.
It’s a toss up between BDM-69 and BDM-420
Curiosity, on Gen 1 and 2, after some time using, you will start to hear a sound which tells if the triggers are being activated or not.
Which makes it A LOT ANNOYING depending in the games that you olay, like hogwarts legacy.
In Gen 4 at least, this does not happen, but idk about gen 3.
How is the drifting ? In the New ones. i did get some of the new controller and having a bit of drifting in most of them i still need to replace some of them
I'm not sure if anyone has done a study, but since the sticks appear to be the same, there's probably no difference.
Invest in replacing with hall-effect sticks or pay to have someone do it for you. Unless you want to keep buying new controllers due to stick-drift.
@@syn80Sadly Hall effect sensors do not solve stick drift it solves potentiometer wear, still a good thing just doesn't solve drift for liner curve players. Stick drift is mainly from a stick centring issue as sticks are centred by a spring pushing two plastic parts together... Don't believe me buy a hall effect controller go into the software and remove the DAEDZONE in the software. Gamersir Nexus for the G7 controller for example even has this as a warning in their software stating Lowering "initial value under 10% will make the stick very sensitive, which is prone to drifting, please use caution". I own 6 controllers 4 with hall effect sensors and they all have drift out of the box after removing the deadzone also they seem to perform poorly in circularity test unless you have software to help fill in the gaps.
Sadly social media has hyped them up.
@@CGS11900 That was some useful info
@@CGS11900 Welp you are wrong because I have replaced my joysticks will hall-effects and flashed the controllers firmware to make them perfectly centered. I got zero stick drift. Games have their own dead zones which is why you adjust this in the settings per game. I don't use the calibration boards now that we are able to flash the firmware on the controller. V5 hall-effect sticks have less than a 6% error rate in the circularity test. Ive been researching this issue and the updates to new versions of sensors for over the past year. I don't need to prove anything to you because I'm very happy with my hall-effect joysticks and I would never go back to the stock potentiometers or have to keep buying new controllers. I don't just watch 1 gamer nexus video which is outdated in its information and assume he knows everything. If you're a professional gamer who gets paid to compete than maybe hall effect joysticks aren't for you, but for the 99% of everybody else they are a better choice than stock sticks.
interesting
What about which starts with F ??
You only need the second digit.
The gen4 volcanic red one has a softer plastic. Just unscrew the screws and you will notice.
I have 3 controller slim one white F43 black one F33 and volcanic red gen4. i think I have 2 gen 4 (white and volcanic red) and 1 gen3 (black). Is it true?
Ps. Amazing video.
If those 3 digits you listed are the beginning of the serial numbers, then yes you have at least one gen 4 and one gen 3. Don't use colors as part of the process. The serial number is all you need.
@@HowToX volcanic red one is g43 that why I don't write serial number same as video thank you for information.
Do my DS Edge next?
I don't have anything starting with a gg or anything, mine starts with an f32, so is that a gen 3
Yes
Mine was F4 followed by a bunch of other numbers so I have Gen 4
Correct. All you need is the second digit. Don't overthink it.
BD is not the only difference. Some can gave small vs big ribbon strips. It is very difficult to just dissect old dualsense and use its parts elsewhere. I tried that and I ended up keeping the old Shell i bought and from my new dualsense which was irreverisibly destroyed i only took joystic caps and the battery.
Big & small IC on the touchpad board along with looking at the ribbon cable will let you know if the controller board is compatible with the touchpad board.
I wish they can solve stick drift, i got gen 1 and 3 both got stick drift
replace with hall-effect joysticks. i no longer have to deal with that problem anymore.
@@syn80 I don't see any reliable replacement. every single review said there are some sort of problem..
@@overdriver99 I posted a video. It doesn't require a calibration board nor do you need to manually adjust using a pin. This is available now and its not expensive. I will be swapping out my current hall-effect sticks for these newer upgraded V5 at some point.
In my testing just using the controllers normal not abusing them and keeping the outside clean they last 6 months before stick drift happens. Even after cleaning the sensors which are not hard to get to but is a little bit annoying to take apart the controllers they still drifted so it seems like these controllers or at least the thumb sticks have a 6 month life span which is awful and cheap from Sony. These controllers in Canada where I live cost 94 dollars it’s freaking ridiculous.
I have two and both got stick drift
replace the joysticks with V5 hall-effect, you'll never get stick drift again
I remember they came out with bdm-20 really fast.
look it dont matter what version i got the version a the new one that does not have stick drift my normal white one owned 12 months stick drift dont matter they use the same sticks
so which one is the best?
got a gen 2 purple controller
This is why I can't mod PS5 controllers for accessibility. Sony keeps changing them. They're addicted to it.
They are fixing everything but the stick drift because they chosen to use the worst type of analog sticks
i got a gen4 just looking the year is printed at the bottom of the box ''Package: ©2024 Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC''
You can’t go by the year that’s just when it was packaged for release. You gotta go by the model number because that tells you that different parts were used to build the controller.
I don't even have a PS5 but I'm here lol
WOULD LOVE A VIDEO LIKE THIS WITH THE DUAL SENSE EDGE CONTROLLER🤩👀
Europe version is different
I'll be happy when go back to the PS4 controller profile... Or at least let us use a PS4 or 8bitdo Pro 2 controller on their sysyem.
The default controller is *TOO THICK* and i can't hold it longer than an hour without droping it from hand fatigue. This was never a problem until I play it on the PS5 and series X controller. Its the sole reason my PS5 is collecting dust.
My controller starts with F33500
So it's 3rd gen.
Great video.
It’s Cross. Not X. Just fyi.
Nah
Yes the trash can design is a good analogy. The fact they are still using prehistoric SOLDERED ON Alps joystic modules instead of removable and replacable modules like nintendo do says everything. Also hard soldered screws on the circuit board? What the F is that?! No modularity at all and if there was some they removed it in newer version
Sony makes more money when you have to buy a new controller due to stick drift. The Edge controller has replaceable stick modules but still use the same type of sticks that can get stick-drift. That's why you should replace them with hall-effect sticks. I'm so glad I did!
Still drifting :/
I’ve had all gen’s all colors they are all trash terrible design but great technology I hope the v2 fixes these issues
My BDM-040 already has stuck drift after only two months and less than 100 hours of use. Zero of my 12 joy cons have drift with my oldest pair from my launch console Switch. Frustrating as hell.
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Fu*k that ps5, I had two controllers both got drift, fixed it and they broke again. I packed my ps5 in a box, f*ck it.
They all suck lmao
Do people really care that much? lol. I have 3 DualSense. 1 gen 1 and 2 gen 2s. They all do the same thing. I also have zero drift in any of them.
It's curiosity.
This info can prove useful when fixing controllers and such. You need to think outside of yourself. Just because YOU don't care, it doesn't mean everyone else does.
Its helpful for people who mod or do their own maintenance.
This is for research and information.
How do you have zero drift that I don’t believe. I have had so many controllers they all drift after 6 months of use and I don’t even abuse them I just use them normally.
Lol adhd is real this vid was a waste of time
The viewers do not agree it's a waste of time. They are clicking on it and staying with it. Over 700 hours of watch time in just the last two days. 40 people have subbed while watching it. 344 thumbs ups, 5 thumbs down.
I think of it as it's an enjoyable waste of time. No real difference use wise but the very minor differences internally are entertaining
Then why are you here?
You wasted further more time just commenting. 🙄
This must have been a bot
My new controller G4 vibration is obviously weaker than my G2，when you play dirt 5 or Astro，the feeling is different something in vibration is missing in new gen controller！！The detail in vibration in old one is much more detail than in new gen！！ if you have you can do the compare When you play Astro in first stage，repeating running through the grass and the big leaf， you can find the Vibration and the resistance feeling is much more stronger in G2 than in G4！！G4 is rubbish the feeling is totally different，G4 have lose much detail in Vibration！！