You're not wrong there, the only thing that will kill you in Vader's command (apart from Rebel combat) is being an idiot. As long as you're not you might even get promoted. The Harkonnens are likelier to kill you for not being a moron
The Fact that they didn't scream or try to escape makes it even more uncomfortable like even the one he didn't kill doesn't make a sound she just stood there shivering in fear
@@Echoo264 They were most likely trained or even "bred" to be submissive like that. Most Harkonnen servants are essentially weak-minded slaves to the main House.
I think it’s implied that they don’t normally act so violently towards their servants (except for feyd when needing to feed his cannibals). The tensions caused by the fremen are causing Rabban to act out
@@enzocignetti6359Ranbban seemed stressed out throughout the movies, more so in the second compared to the first. I think he's angry naturally, but the pressure of Arakis and trying to appeal to his uncle made it much worse
@@juannaym8488 That's also his main difference to Feyd-Rautha. Rabban, for all his brutality, does not enjoy brutality. It is a tool to forces others to do his bidding or a means to vent frustration. Feyd-Rautha on the other hand is outright sadistic and enjoys brutality in every form, physical and psychological. Aso a nice commentary on nature vs nurture.
I can’t imagine what happened in that bathroom with the Baron Imagine the last thing you’ll ever see is a fat dude with a knife **LEVITATING INCREASINGLY FAST TOWARDS YOU**
Not really. He just inherited an entire multi-planet empire with a massive military. It’s probably what a lot of rich kids feel when their rich dads die.
So true, but I interpreted his reaction as alot more mixed than that. To me Butler’s acting evokes shock turning to excitement turning to anger (or maybe something more like determination? In like a predatory ‘Now I need to kill Paul’ kinda way)
@@danem.9402 I got the vibe that he wanted to do that for ages and now had immense ressentiment towards Paul for finally doing it/simultaneous admiration for him for doing it
That looked more like he was really into it. He was probably thinking "Damn you really did that. Ight Muad'Dib, let's fucking go, I'm so ready right now! Somebody give me a knife."
@@karlolson1363 This aspect is true, I also wrote that from this point of view, it can be even true for Rabban. He didn't 'practiced' with gladiators like Feyd and I don't really remember any 1vs1 duel from him either. But I think he became an over the top coward. Btw then why did he start to fight with Gurney in the end instead of running away?
@@sectorgovernorprobably when he first ran away it was a mix of fear and also rationale if that makes sense. Like there’s zero visibility, your troops are getting massacred and your most likely going to die while accomplishing nothing. In the end, it’s more like “i’ve lost everything, here is a man who represents basically my mortal enemy (atreides and fremen (as in working with fremen)), i’m not going to let this bastard live/run away like last time”
@@CountCalcium It can be true, Rabban probably also realized they will be all killed and his tactics were wrong. Gurney and Rabban hated each other, it was personal so it is also correct.
@@abhidahiya4007 Paul is no less Harkonnen than his cousins Feyd-Rautha and Glossu Rabban then since their lineage come from their father Abulurd Harkonnen who was the Baron's demi-brother. It's implied than their mother was a Bene Gesserict too in the movies. Harkonnen is not really a pourcentage of blood from an ancestor, it's a family name.
I realize that the Bene Gesserit Breeding Program was probably the only thing keeping the Harkonnens around. Given how they treat their own people, there's no way they would have last very long.
The imperium is cutthroat by nature. The emperor would want the harkonnens kept around BECAUSE they’re an unstable house with infighting and betrayal. He gave the green light on killing the atreides because they were both powerful and fanatically loyal to their duke.
The Harkonnens also control a decent portion of heavy industry and export a very valuable type of wood from a unique tree on their planet. Slave trading as well which the emperor turns a blind eye to. There’s trillions of humans to use as a workforce in the known universe. Who’s going to notice a dent in that figure if a few million are slaves or just killed. As long as the spice flows and Choam company makes profits nobody is worried about the happenings on individual worlds
The Bene Gesserit had to trick the Baron into having sex with Mohaim twice due to the fact he's a homosexual. As far as I'm aware there is no mention of them using them previously but I could be missing mention. But Jessica was part Harkonnen and her dead sister as well. That's the only two I remenber.
The Harkonnen leadership were also infamous for plots to kill their own to seize power & remove the competition. Pretty much like Ottoman Dynasty fraticide.
But the 401k SPICE match.. 🤨🤔 The Harkonens are overflowing with spice!! The Emperor recommends a net worth of 10k lbs of spice for a comfortable retirement...
I think you missed a few-during the fight by the spice harvester that ornithopter gunner takes out pretty much everyone, regardless if they're Harkonnen or Fremen. He just sprays the crowd indiscriminately
@@richardbradley2335don’t remember the full scene but I know that laser weapons in the Dune universe cause a nuclear reaction upon contact with shields, if the shields were up, it’ll create a nuclear explosion, killing everything in a large radius.
How the councellor's head slipping off Raban's grip is the only thing that stops him from continuing to smash his head in puts the cherry on top of how brutal this scene comes across.
How stupidly impulsive do you have to be to do that mid fight? Training ain’t easy, the job ain’t easy, and you’d lose the target just as easily. The Harkonen clan is self destructive to absurd levels
@@Dr.Chibbins I suspect the only reason they still exist is because they're part of the Bene Gesserit's breeding program, plus the Emperor likes having weak houses around.
If I was a Harkonnen servant I'd just be like 'Yes chef. Yes chef. Yes chef. Aye sir. Yes sir. At once, my lord. On it. You got it, boss." Zero talking back or giving advice ever! And I'd always stand out of arm's reach :D
The movies really nailed the Harkonnens and their societies worship of violence. The cruelty in their own ranks, cannibal..."pets", even the costumes, the plastic bag clothes for the slaves, the black armor that is more technical than that of any other fighters we see, Rabans whip, that one doctors mask, leather latex, it all oozes violence, sadism, pain, projecting power, ownership and hatred of others. The arena fight was in some ways the most chilling, there's the painting ritual, Feyd kills two people just as a test for the upcoming fight, orders improvements be made to his knife, he takes it so seriously, this must be one hell of a fight and then...no. Just some drugged out flunkies he cuts down with ease, not even breaking a sweat. He simply enjoys killing, he wants the best gear for it, he wants everyone to watch him, it's just a hobby for him. They may not have a glorious past they want to rebuild, but their society takes the contempt for weakness and worship of violence elements of fascism and turns them to 11
The aspect where he mostly is against either people afraid to fight back, or people drugged up was quite an interesting aspect. Paul actually learned how to fight, but Ratha never really did.
Actually I think Feyd is an extremely good fighter, probably better than Paul before fighting alongside the Fremen and becoming the Kvisatz Haderach and on par afterwards. He just trains a lot but then kills defenseless slaves. That's what's so terrifying. He trains a lot but not because he needs to, like Paul, but because he enjoys it
In the same way that modern anarchy is impressive with sweeping negations, but cowardly in practise, the Nietzschean Overman is a great idea until you take the repulsive doctrines to their natural conclusions and see the colossal waste and repetitive, empty morbidity of a lust for power. Violence and cruelty as values can make going nowhere a lot of hard work.
F*ck HR; that department single-handedly turned functional and lively male workplaces into dysfunctional gynocracies where _NO ONE_ is happy because everyone is walking on egg-shells and men can't resolve their differences in the parking lot and put feuds to bed.
@@maplerivers No, of course not, actual women are hard to come by; it's mostly just masculine females who act caricaturely male while expecting to be treated conventionally when it suits them. A woman used to be a community-bestowed honorific that had to be earned, as "man" once was with rites of passage and demonstrable maturity.
@@JozefLPslovakiapeople keep mentioning Vader is a some tough love boss doesn't realize that Vader has serious issues as well. He kills Captain Needa (who definitely can shows signs of improvement and is willing to learn from his mistake) then jokingly mocks him. In a comic, he literally kills his own stormtrooper just for seeinf his face. Meanwhile, someone like Thrawn would have promoted someone like Needs, like an actual logical person does Vader is an unhinged monster through and through. He is just not a sadistic type
It’s like being on Darth Vader’s Star Destroyer. The incompetent get choked and the hyper competent climb the ranks fast if you can stay in the bosses’ good graces 😅
I would be piss as hell if I worked my ass off to get to a top position, where the position holders keep getting killed off by their boss for no reason.
I like how this shows a contrast between Rabban and Feyd - when that guy suggests Rabban should get some rest, Rabban flips out and bashes his head repeatedly, while when the other guy suggests Feyd should stay inside, he doesn’t say a word and quickly slits his throat. Shows a clear difference between their personalities.
Me sitting at a job interview waiting to see who's hiring. HR: So we have these wonderful, high paying jobs. Upper six figures will hired you right now. Me: Amazing! WHo is it?! HR: House Harkonnen. Me: Gets up from interview and walks out.
Takes me back to Gurney's dialogue with Paul after their training talking about how the Harkonnens are not humans and how brutal they were. I know he most likely was talking about how were towards him and others like him but still these scenes amplify his points.
I love how there were dozens of Sardukar in the Throne Room along with Feyd'Rautha himself, and literally not one of them raised a sword to try and kill Muad'Dib while he was occupied with killing the Baron. They were like "nah fuck that guy, let him finish."
I forgot if they were House Corrino's only or woulda been extremely loyal just to any emperor. Or I guess there weren't any emperors that weren't Corrinos the whole time. Good idea of Shaddam to bring all Sardaukar including reserves to the battle of Arakeen so they can all be conveniently expunged heh heh
Honestly I dont understand why there arent a shitload of defectors from Harkonnens, given the fact that you can get murked for simply breathing the wrong way
There probably would be... if you didn't need to be filthy stinking rich to get off-world. The Navigators charge obscene prices for space travel. The empire also practices a form of feudalism with semi-serfdom, so defection in general (at least for the common person) is frowned on. Being from Giedi Prime, their morphology is pretty unique and obvious so any defector would be likely hunted down and discovered quickly. Fear is an important weapon in how House Harkonnen maintain their rule.
The system is feudal in nature. Effectively, what happens when the ultra wealthy become so powerful that they are the government and are utterly powerful and no force but another powerful person can beat them. As people have said "the billionaires Don't want to make star trek, they want to make Dune."
Honestly I don't understand why people can be that naive. Because they are morbidly SCARED for their lives to even think about deflection and as another person said, not anyone can afford the luxury of choice and freedom.
There are. Gurney and Duncan are both from Geidi Prime. Rabban raped and murdered Gurney's sister while he was laying on the floor beaten half to death. Duncan was raised on a reserve to be hunted by Rabban for sport.
Never read the books, but I think its interesting how the first movie had the moment where Paul heard "when you take a life you take your own" before he killed for the first time. That marked his transformation into a different person. From a duke's son to a warrior. Then in this movie when he kills Feyd, you hear the line "you fought well Atreides" as if Paul still was "killed." That hit me in a similar way that now he's essentially let go of/killed his identity as an Atreides for favor of the identity he's built with the Fremen and uses his name only to claim the throne.
Not even the Fremen. Paul is dead. The Emperor lives. There's only one way he could get revenge: Become the Emperor. There's only one way he could get off the Imperial throne. Death. And let his son fix the galaxy.
In all honesty a house like Harkonnen would not survive as long as they have in this series. It would have collapsed long ago … a society that screws each other will eventually , well? screw itself .
And the worst part is had they just listened to their subordinates they would have probably won. The Sardaukar commander even recommends the Emperor to go back into Orbit and he doesn't listen.
In reality, absolutely ridiculous. No regime could remain combat effective with that level of barbarity. Regularly killing elite troops and support staff on a whim is irrational and wasteful. It would cause a breakdown very quickly.
Stop bringing reality into movies. It isn't real and the subordinates stay with them is because their family has been ruling for a long time so naturally there are many troops that would come to support them even if they're crazy.
this is why the harkonnens are scary to me, their cruelty and use of fear has made an autocratic regime so terrible it transcends reality in its horribleness, this system shouldn't work in a reality of independent citizenry, but the harkonnen regime and society is so morally in the gutter that nobody has any sympathy whatsoever if one of their own dies, and no sympathy whenever they kill their own. The fact that there is no resistance or rebellion at the dysfunctionality and brutality of the regime and their rulers shows that the majority of the harkonnen people are either so broken that they miserably accept the regime out of fear, or they are so corrupt themselves that they join on the barbarism and actively partake and support this evil society. The former outcome is more terrifying, and more probable because of untold masses who take part in the parades and festivities of feyd rautha's birthday, chanting their support in the stands of the Arena. Unlike Feyd himself, they harkonnen masses seem perfectly happy that their rulers kill their enemies in unfair fights, as the atriedes are drugged, signifying that the harkonnen populace has absolutely no sense of honor. Basically, the existence of the harkonnen regime and its impracticality and impossibility gives me the sense that every harkonnen of their society, from the Baron all the way down to the working class masses attending the Arena battle, are corrupt and iredeemable.
Life is cheap and plentiful in the empire. They're not even really considered "human", but tools. When a tool breaks, you replace it. Real regimes throughout history have done similar, and while those rulers may not have lasted very long... their empires and structures of governance did.
True, and when Gurney arrived there under orders from the new emperor Paul, the people instantly sided with them. They have had enough of Harky oppression. In the end, their planet once again grew trees and its people now shouting the Atreides name.
I don't remember if it talks about how much resistance Gurney got when he was turning it into "Gammu" but I liked the synchronized moves the Geidi Prime crowd was doin at the triangle games
It’s kinda thematically appropriate though. Paul and the BG are Herbert’s idea of total self control over mind and body. The Harkonnens on the other hand are incapable of controlling their greed, lusts, rage, or gluttony.
I feel like you guys are forgetting that they literally mention that Feyd is psychotic and likes to kill. Or that Rabban and Vladamir are not good people. Of course they are going to be murderous in their own endeavors.
It also tells you how replacable human life is in dune remember there are probably trillion people in te galaxy and billions on geidi cause there no flora it might be several billions
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 sardukar in general were a huge waste, they didnt kill/hurt anybody. Even in their scenes in book where they ambush some fremen women/kids were given to Feyd
there is just something so interesting about a super advanced people travelling the stars that are forced to fight with knives due to their very own technology . its an incredible idea. and the mindset it breeds. most fighting is up close brutal and permanent. just savage as hell.. also imagine the thoughts in the head of the man whose neck was sliced and as he is dying he hears take his body to feed my pets. again just savage
Nah imagine working for years as a diligent and active Harkonnen with years of experience under your belt just to get killed by your own lord because they had a temper tantrum
Definitely wouldn’t want to be on the Harkonen side. It’s also cartoonishly evil when the villains treat their own like shit, realistically everyone who works there would want to quit 😂
Realistically people in that situation would NEVER even think to quit because they would be afraid to even do a wrong move let alone plan escape; and because not everyone has means to escape. It's not like this a prosperous democracy, it's a tyranny where only the ruling house has power.
id honestly laugh if anyone who never saw dune part two yet felt confused as hell why paul and jessica were included one of the biggest spoilers they would ever see
Rabban has as much emotional intelligence as a block of wood. Also, Paul's identity issues are crazy. An Atredies who hates Harkonens, wants to be Fremen, and eventually finds out he is Harkonen as well... But in the end, Feyd in his last breath recognizes him as an Atredies. Crazy story.
Oh yeah thinking back to the Jared Letto purposely killing one or two replicant girls yezzir. I mean can we say somethin like "cheap but effective" but the director might not get story writing credit/blame, I don't remember if it's specifically female Harkonnen slave girl victims in the book and have never read the short story that Blade Runner was based on but they can always even it out for both sexes
I love how you included Paul. He technically is a Harkonnen.
And Jessica too, being more Harkonnen than even Paul.
Yup😂
Came here to say the same, lol
From his mother’s side, yes. As his maternal family.
Thanks Sherlock
Don't know about everyone else but i think id feel safer on an Imperial Star Destroyer under Lord Darth Vader then in the Harkonnen crew
You're not wrong there, the only thing that will kill you in Vader's command (apart from Rebel combat) is being an idiot. As long as you're not you might even get promoted. The Harkonnens are likelier to kill you for not being a moron
Darth Vader only kills when you fail miserably.
Darth Vader actually cared about his storm troopers lol
@AgentMercer Notice how he only kills the snobbish, power-hungry, imperial officers. In a way less violent way than what's displayed here as well.
Darth Vader didn't have pets to be fed
Rabban killed Harkonnens more than he killed Atreides
Surely, he also killed his own father, Abulurd Harkonnen
@@sectorgovernor as the matter of fact the only Atreides he faced on screen was Gurney and we all know how it went
@@khoanguyenduc2564actually, in part 1 he kill some captured atreides
Feyd killing his maids so callously was so disturbing to watch
They perfectly encapsulated his character in a few seconds. That's filmmaking right there.
He does it very often
It was silly.
The Fact that they didn't scream or try to escape makes it even more uncomfortable like even the one he didn't kill doesn't make a sound she just stood there shivering in fear
@@Echoo264 They were most likely trained or even "bred" to be submissive like that. Most Harkonnen servants are essentially weak-minded slaves to the main House.
You'd think that their servants would just do whatever Rabban says considering his _severe_ lack of emotional intelligence.
I think it’s implied that they don’t normally act so violently towards their servants (except for feyd when needing to feed his cannibals). The tensions caused by the fremen are causing Rabban to act out
@@enzocignetti6359Ranbban seemed stressed out throughout the movies, more so in the second compared to the first. I think he's angry naturally, but the pressure of Arakis and trying to appeal to his uncle made it much worse
@@juannaym8488Yes, Rabban always was hot-headed.
@@juannaym8488 That's also his main difference to Feyd-Rautha. Rabban, for all his brutality, does not enjoy brutality. It is a tool to forces others to do his bidding or a means to vent frustration. Feyd-Rautha on the other hand is outright sadistic and enjoys brutality in every form, physical and psychological. Aso a nice commentary on nature vs nurture.
“Does not enjoy brutality” that’s literally all he enjoys in the books
Just goes to show that even being a Harkonnen advisor is hazardous to your health.
Hope it pays well, but I guess knowing the harkonnens it probably doesn’t
not if you don't interrupt them. Can't say why they don't learn...
One of the most dangerous places to be in the Soviet Union during Stalin's pre-WWII purges was at the top of the Party.
@@antestanic2964they die before they can learn
You just need to say''Long live house Harkonnen''
the first clip that included Paul made me laugh 😂
He is harkonnen
@@Brandon-nr8fn I am aware
Paul is included in the video because he is also Harkonnen?
@@costco_pizza His grandfather is.
I was like 'HUH?' And then 'oh yeah, doi'
I can’t imagine what happened in that bathroom with the Baron
Imagine the last thing you’ll ever see is a fat dude with a knife **LEVITATING INCREASINGLY FAST TOWARDS YOU**
"Flying fat man" sounds funny until it isn't.
For that scene alone, he deserved what he got.
💀
Well judging by what the Baron was a fan of doing in the books, being killed was probably a mercy after what he probably did to those two children
Considering they were twisted into pretzels, it seems that he didn't use a knife.
2:02 Feyd being bricked tf up over his uncle dying is so wild 😂
Not really. He just inherited an entire multi-planet empire with a massive military. It’s probably what a lot of rich kids feel when their rich dads die.
So true, but I interpreted his reaction as alot more mixed than that. To me Butler’s acting evokes shock turning to excitement turning to anger (or maybe something more like determination? In like a predatory ‘Now I need to kill Paul’ kinda way)
@@danem.9402 I got the vibe that he wanted to do that for ages and now had immense ressentiment towards Paul for finally doing it/simultaneous admiration for him for doing it
@@MatauReviews yeah that makes sense I like that
That looked more like he was really into it. He was probably thinking "Damn you really did that. Ight Muad'Dib, let's fucking go, I'm so ready right now! Somebody give me a knife."
That guy suggested to Rabban to get some rest and for that Rabban clobbered him!!!! Remind me never to give this guy any health advice.
This was really character accurate. This is exactly what Rabban would do. It's pity that in the end, they made him a pathetic coward.
@sectorgovernor that's probably the point he was a bully who runs away from a real fight. Used to picking on the helpless.
@@karlolson1363 This aspect is true, I also wrote that from this point of view, it can be even true for Rabban. He didn't 'practiced' with gladiators like Feyd and I don't really remember any 1vs1 duel from him either. But I think he became an over the top coward. Btw then why did he start to fight with Gurney in the end instead of running away?
@@sectorgovernorprobably when he first ran away it was a mix of fear and also rationale if that makes sense. Like there’s zero visibility, your troops are getting massacred and your most likely going to die while accomplishing nothing.
In the end, it’s more like “i’ve lost everything, here is a man who represents basically my mortal enemy (atreides and fremen (as in working with fremen)), i’m not going to let this bastard live/run away like last time”
@@CountCalcium It can be true, Rabban probably also realized they will be all killed and his tactics were wrong.
Gurney and Rabban hated each other, it was personal so it is also correct.
1:35 I died laughing at this in the theater. You can NOT make any suggestions to this family 😂😂😂
That shit had me rolling too. I was the only one laughing 😭😂
"I didn't fucking ask!"
I don't know about you guys, but I would watch a whole movie about this family. lol
The Harkonnens are basically just a Sci-Fi version of the Addams Family...
@@StefWriterkardashians.
I'm glad they didn't forget that Paul and Jessica are both technically Harkonnen too.
Paul is half Harkonnen
@@abhidahiya4007 barring incest, every Harkonnen is half Harkonnen.
@@abhidahiya4007 Paul is no less Harkonnen than his cousins Feyd-Rautha and Glossu Rabban then since their lineage come from their father Abulurd Harkonnen who was the Baron's demi-brother. It's implied than their mother was a Bene Gesserict too in the movies. Harkonnen is not really a pourcentage of blood from an ancestor, it's a family name.
I realize that the Bene Gesserit Breeding Program was probably the only thing keeping the Harkonnens around. Given how they treat their own people, there's no way they would have last very long.
The imperium is cutthroat by nature. The emperor would want the harkonnens kept around BECAUSE they’re an unstable house with infighting and betrayal. He gave the green light on killing the atreides because they were both powerful and fanatically loyal to their duke.
The Harkonnens also control a decent portion of heavy industry and export a very valuable type of wood from a unique tree on their planet. Slave trading as well which the emperor turns a blind eye to. There’s trillions of humans to use as a workforce in the known universe. Who’s going to notice a dent in that figure if a few million are slaves or just killed. As long as the spice flows and Choam company makes profits nobody is worried about the happenings on individual worlds
The Bene Gesserit had to trick the Baron into having sex with Mohaim twice due to the fact he's a homosexual. As far as I'm aware there is no mention of them using them previously but I could be missing mention. But Jessica was part Harkonnen and her dead sister as well. That's the only two I remenber.
@@SomeNoobWithCE Which makes me think... how did an ugly repulsive looking person father such a beautiful woman like Lady Jessica... 🤔
The Harkonnen leadership were also infamous for plots to kill their own to seize power & remove the competition. Pretty much like Ottoman Dynasty fraticide.
At this rate, Paul doesn’t need the Fremen; the Harkonnens are doing a great job destroying each other.
1:12 one of the most terrifying scenes in both parts
literally the scream before that loud bang gave me goosebumps in the theater
everyone outside is just like “ah sh*t here we go again”
What was that bang
They are like you go in first 🤣🤣
@@cnarhatrnaz3561 I assumed he grabbed them and has thrown them against the wall
Everyone ignores the "Help Wanted" sign on the front door of House Harkonnen!" ☢️ ☠️☢️
0 days since a workplace incident
But the 401k SPICE match.. 🤨🤔 The Harkonens are overflowing with spice!! The Emperor recommends a net worth of 10k lbs of spice for a comfortable retirement...
nobody wants to work anymore
I think you missed a few-during the fight by the spice harvester that ornithopter gunner takes out pretty much everyone, regardless if they're Harkonnen or Fremen. He just sprays the crowd indiscriminately
Haha that’s true lol. I see new things within this masterpiece every day😭
Event the weapon is designed to spray and pray.
Yeah, I realized that one, too. The utter and complete indifference towards human life is just so staggering in this adaptation of the Harkonnen.
Also why didnt the freemen just start off by firing the lasers at the harvester...they lost lives needlessly attacking it on foot.
@@richardbradley2335don’t remember the full scene but I know that laser weapons in the Dune universe cause a nuclear reaction upon contact with shields, if the shields were up, it’ll create a nuclear explosion, killing everything in a large radius.
1:27 pilot was like : "dude you're fucked"
Yeah he was like “Dude you idiot! Just make up some shit. Say they’re right there in that big mountain in front of us!”
How the councellor's head slipping off Raban's grip is the only thing that stops him from continuing to smash his head in puts the cherry on top of how brutal this scene comes across.
Nice catch
1:27 the other pilot is like, ''welp thats a death sentence for you''
How stupidly impulsive do you have to be to do that mid fight? Training ain’t easy, the job ain’t easy, and you’d lose the target just as easily. The Harkonen clan is self destructive to absurd levels
@@Dr.Chibbins I suspect the only reason they still exist is because they're part of the Bene Gesserit's breeding program, plus the Emperor likes having weak houses around.
@@Dr.Chibbins i mean, stalin came very close to their level of killing your own minions and the USSR was still functioning
If I was a Harkonnen servant I'd just be like 'Yes chef. Yes chef. Yes chef. Aye sir. Yes sir. At once, my lord. On it. You got it, boss."
Zero talking back or giving advice ever!
And I'd always stand out of arm's reach :D
and youd still get killed
@@kp-legacy-5477 Yeah, but like a month later. And that's enough time to buy a wig and run away!
remember an arm + blade length out of reach
It’s fucked up that you can do everything right and still get killed by a noble with no justice for your death.
Space feudalism is depressing broooo
"Chef"?
Feyd slicing and stabbing his servants while staring blankly was so wild to see for the first time 😭
The movies really nailed the Harkonnens and their societies worship of violence. The cruelty in their own ranks, cannibal..."pets", even the costumes, the plastic bag clothes for the slaves, the black armor that is more technical than that of any other fighters we see, Rabans whip, that one doctors mask, leather latex, it all oozes violence, sadism, pain, projecting power, ownership and hatred of others. The arena fight was in some ways the most chilling, there's the painting ritual, Feyd kills two people just as a test for the upcoming fight, orders improvements be made to his knife, he takes it so seriously, this must be one hell of a fight and then...no. Just some drugged out flunkies he cuts down with ease, not even breaking a sweat. He simply enjoys killing, he wants the best gear for it, he wants everyone to watch him, it's just a hobby for him. They may not have a glorious past they want to rebuild, but their society takes the contempt for weakness and worship of violence elements of fascism and turns them to 11
The aspect where he mostly is against either people afraid to fight back, or people drugged up was quite an interesting aspect. Paul actually learned how to fight, but Ratha never really did.
@@letsburn00 tecnically he did, if he didnt Paul would have killed him very quickly
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 I think Paul is an extremely good fighter and like the fight with Janis, he simply did not want to kill him instantly.
Actually I think Feyd is an extremely good fighter, probably better than Paul before fighting alongside the Fremen and becoming the Kvisatz Haderach and on par afterwards. He just trains a lot but then kills defenseless slaves. That's what's so terrifying. He trains a lot but not because he needs to, like Paul, but because he enjoys it
In the same way that modern anarchy is impressive with sweeping negations, but cowardly in practise, the Nietzschean Overman is a great idea until you take the repulsive doctrines to their natural conclusions and see the colossal waste and repetitive, empty morbidity of a lust for power. Violence and cruelty as values can make going nowhere a lot of hard work.
These guys are hard on HR.
F*ck HR; that department single-handedly turned functional and lively male workplaces into dysfunctional gynocracies where _NO ONE_ is happy because everyone is walking on egg-shells and men can't resolve their differences in the parking lot and put feuds to bed.
HA! Now that made me laugh.
Good, HR's the worst thing that's happened to business since female integration.
@@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.not like you get to see any women anyways
@@maplerivers
No, of course not, actual women are hard to come by; it's mostly just masculine females who act caricaturely male while expecting to be treated conventionally when it suits them. A woman used to be a community-bestowed honorific that had to be earned, as "man" once was with rites of passage and demonstrable maturity.
1:32 the way he just casually looks back and kills him is so funny
Moral of the story: never give advice to a Harkonnen
2:02 Feyd looking at paul like i want all the smoke, bro.😂
Bro was getting aroused by the intense violence...
Crazy how this comment is word for word what 3 other commenters have said on other videos.
Weird.
@@oklafornia3643bots. Dead internet theory, look it up. Or zoomers just have zero personality and act like clones of each other.
"Where have you been all my life?"
Nah he’s bricked up
I fuckin love how Rebecca Ferguson screams like a witch, the twist makes it super tragic
Loved how brutal that scene was lmao
Man. It would really suck to be in the Harkonnen military. I feel like the higher up you go the more likely you are to die.
just ask darth vader
@@magnusdiridian Darth Vader kills only people who failed him misserably
@@JozefLPslovakiaThe Harkonnens have a pretty loose definition of "failing miserably".
@@JozefLPslovakiapeople keep mentioning Vader is a some tough love boss doesn't realize that Vader has serious issues as well. He kills Captain Needa (who definitely can shows signs of improvement and is willing to learn from his mistake) then jokingly mocks him. In a comic, he literally kills his own stormtrooper just for seeinf his face. Meanwhile, someone like Thrawn would have promoted someone like Needs, like an actual logical person does
Vader is an unhinged monster through and through. He is just not a sadistic type
It’s like being on Darth Vader’s Star Destroyer. The incompetent get choked and the hyper competent climb the ranks fast if you can stay in the bosses’ good graces 😅
2:03
"He just ike me fr fr"
I would be piss as hell if I worked my ass off to get to a top position, where the position holders keep getting killed off by their boss for no reason.
The benefits and insurance must be AMAZING for these people to keep showing up to work each day...
...or they have no choice because they have no money and power...
I like how this shows a contrast between Rabban and Feyd - when that guy suggests Rabban should get some rest, Rabban flips out and bashes his head repeatedly, while when the other guy suggests Feyd should stay inside, he doesn’t say a word and quickly slits his throat. Shows a clear difference between their personalities.
2 sides of the same coin really. Sadistic and impulsive boss who is incapable of listening to his underling. Feyd is just more efficient about it
@@quakethedoombringerExactly. At last someone gets it.
Me sitting at a job interview waiting to see who's hiring.
HR: So we have these wonderful, high paying jobs. Upper six figures will hired you right now.
Me: Amazing! WHo is it?!
HR: House Harkonnen.
Me: Gets up from interview and walks out.
Yeah they would advertise the job posting with "rapid opportunities for advancement".
"Great promotion opportunities."
Honestly this is kinda like a horror movie 1:13
Takes me back to Gurney's dialogue with Paul after their training talking about how the Harkonnens are not humans and how brutal they were. I know he most likely was talking about how were towards him and others like him but still these scenes amplify his points.
"Why are they including all these clips of Paul- ohhhhhhhhh. Clever girl."
I love how there were dozens of Sardukar in the Throne Room along with Feyd'Rautha himself, and literally not one of them raised a sword to try and kill Muad'Dib while he was occupied with killing the Baron. They were like "nah fuck that guy, let him finish."
They exist to protect the Emperor. They'd let the Fremen carve Irulan into hamburger and not move without an order from Shaddam.
I forgot if they were House Corrino's only or woulda been extremely loyal just to any emperor. Or I guess there weren't any emperors that weren't Corrinos the whole time. Good idea of Shaddam to bring all Sardaukar including reserves to the battle of Arakeen so they can all be conveniently expunged heh heh
When the harpies saw the body drop @0:22 they were ready to chow down! 😱
Ngl, I'm still on the fence about whether or not to be down bad for them or not.
They were overjoyed.
Yo, what did the Baron do to those girls in the scene later?
@@Sriram-ve4ge i wanna know too
@@Sriram-ve4ge I think he literally picked them up and threw them against the wall.
Honestly I dont understand why there arent a shitload of defectors from Harkonnens, given the fact that you can get murked for simply breathing the wrong way
There probably would be... if you didn't need to be filthy stinking rich to get off-world. The Navigators charge obscene prices for space travel. The empire also practices a form of feudalism with semi-serfdom, so defection in general (at least for the common person) is frowned on. Being from Giedi Prime, their morphology is pretty unique and obvious so any defector would be likely hunted down and discovered quickly.
Fear is an important weapon in how House Harkonnen maintain their rule.
The system is feudal in nature. Effectively, what happens when the ultra wealthy become so powerful that they are the government and are utterly powerful and no force but another powerful person can beat them.
As people have said "the billionaires Don't want to make star trek, they want to make Dune."
I don't want to imagine what they'd do to people who are caught trying to switch sides.
Honestly I don't understand why people can be that naive. Because they are morbidly SCARED for their lives to even think about deflection and as another person said, not anyone can afford the luxury of choice and freedom.
There are. Gurney and Duncan are both from Geidi Prime. Rabban raped and murdered Gurney's sister while he was laying on the floor beaten half to death. Duncan was raised on a reserve to be hunted by Rabban for sport.
Never read the books, but I think its interesting how the first movie had the moment where Paul heard "when you take a life you take your own" before he killed for the first time. That marked his transformation into a different person. From a duke's son to a warrior. Then in this movie when he kills Feyd, you hear the line "you fought well Atreides" as if Paul still was "killed." That hit me in a similar way that now he's essentially let go of/killed his identity as an Atreides for favor of the identity he's built with the Fremen and uses his name only to claim the throne.
Not even the Fremen.
Paul is dead.
The Emperor lives.
There's only one way he could get revenge: Become the Emperor.
There's only one way he could get off the Imperial throne.
Death. And let his son fix the galaxy.
@@JoshSweetvale Paul is a dead man, miss him miss him
Just think 24000 yrs from now they're gonna be like "holy shit this is playing out EXACTLY like that one sci-fi franchise called Dune"
In all honesty a house like Harkonnen would not survive as long as they have in this series. It would have collapsed long ago … a society that screws each other will eventually , well? screw itself .
Yea, tv and movie makers get carried away with the "shoot the messenger, you have failed me, and I'm in a pissy mood and taking it out on my minions."
yeah they are basically doing stalin level brutality and we know how that turned out for him in the end.
It's not reality it's a movie jeez
@@Phil9874 dying of natural causes?
And the worst part is had they just listened to their subordinates they would have probably won. The Sardaukar commander even recommends the Emperor to go back into Orbit and he doesn't listen.
Most toxic work place I’ve ever seen
In reality, absolutely ridiculous. No regime could remain combat effective with that level of barbarity. Regularly killing elite troops and support staff on a whim is irrational and wasteful. It would cause a breakdown very quickly.
Counterpoint: literally any dictatorship of the last century
Which is why House Atreides was becoming the more powerful of the houses. Loyalty trumps fear
Stop bringing reality into movies. It isn't real and the subordinates stay with them is because their family has been ruling for a long time so naturally there are many troops that would come to support them even if they're crazy.
this is why the harkonnens are scary to me, their cruelty and use of fear has made an autocratic regime so terrible it transcends reality in its horribleness, this system shouldn't work in a reality of independent citizenry, but the harkonnen regime and society is so morally in the gutter that nobody has any sympathy whatsoever if one of their own dies, and no sympathy whenever they kill their own. The fact that there is no resistance or rebellion at the dysfunctionality and brutality of the regime and their rulers shows that the majority of the harkonnen people are either so broken that they miserably accept the regime out of fear, or they are so corrupt themselves that they join on the barbarism and actively partake and support this evil society. The former outcome is more terrifying, and more probable because of untold masses who take part in the parades and festivities of feyd rautha's birthday, chanting their support in the stands of the Arena. Unlike Feyd himself, they harkonnen masses seem perfectly happy that their rulers kill their enemies in unfair fights, as the atriedes are drugged, signifying that the harkonnen populace has absolutely no sense of honor. Basically, the existence of the harkonnen regime and its impracticality and impossibility gives me the sense that every harkonnen of their society, from the Baron all the way down to the working class masses attending the Arena battle, are corrupt and iredeemable.
Life is cheap and plentiful in the empire. They're not even really considered "human", but tools. When a tool breaks, you replace it. Real regimes throughout history have done similar, and while those rulers may not have lasted very long... their empires and structures of governance did.
The population on geidi prime heaved a sigh of relief when they learnt about house Harkonnens demise 😂!
True, and when Gurney arrived there under orders from the new emperor Paul, the people instantly sided with them. They have had enough of Harky oppression. In the end, their planet once again grew trees and its people now shouting the Atreides name.
@choysakanto6792 os didn't knew that, kinda nice Paul give the planet to Gurney govern
I don't remember if it talks about how much resistance Gurney got when he was turning it into "Gammu" but I liked the synchronized moves the Geidi Prime crowd was doin at the triangle games
I honestly found the frequency with which Feyd and Rabban killed their subordinates to be a little over the top lol....Still an awesome film though
It’s kinda thematically appropriate though. Paul and the BG are Herbert’s idea of total self control over mind and body. The Harkonnens on the other hand are incapable of controlling their greed, lusts, rage, or gluttony.
I feel like you guys are forgetting that they literally mention that Feyd is psychotic and likes to kill. Or that Rabban and Vladamir are not good people. Of course they are going to be murderous in their own endeavors.
It's not historically unprecedented. Some monarchs have been extremely violent towards their servants, albeit that usually got back to the servants
It also tells you how replacable human life is in dune remember there are probably trillion people in te galaxy and billions on geidi cause there no flora it might be several billions
No, it wasn't. The Baron, Piter and Rabban did exactly this, at least in the prequel books. Just not with generals and soldiers but with servants
Batista: "Give Me What I Want!"
1:35 "bring his body to my quarters" bro he was still alive😭
Depriving Sardaukar of their last stand and killing them behind the curtain was the worst crime Paul commited
Yup, they were strongest soldiers of House Corrino, atleast they could give them a good fight tò the end
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 sardukar in general were a huge waste, they didnt kill/hurt anybody. Even in their scenes in book where they ambush some fremen women/kids were given to Feyd
And some people be like: Achtually, Harkonnens are not evil.
I mean everybody is some degree of cruel greedy and or depraved
Of course it starts off with Rabba rage quitting
I know they're trying to look after their leaders wellbeing but telling the Baron's family what to do feels kinda stupid.
1:28 i hope there is a full scene of this one
rabban freaking out was too good
I love the video. I hope it doesn’t get deleted by CZcams.
I like that you included Paul and Jessica since they are direct relatives of the Baron
there is just something so interesting about a super advanced people travelling the stars that are forced to fight with knives due to their very own technology . its an incredible idea. and the mindset it breeds. most fighting is up close brutal and permanent. just savage as hell.. also imagine the thoughts in the head of the man whose neck was sliced and as he is dying he hears take his body to feed my pets. again just savage
00:17 I don't know why, but the way Feyd stabs that servant makes me shudder. I actually felt ill in the cinema.
I've been looking for a full version of the first scene when Rabban goes nuts
Watched it last night! Now I am going to be addicted to Dune clips. :p
thank you for including Paul and Jessica as Harkonnens
Oh idk it kinda counts as spoilers, I think the only one who even knew was Mohiam and whoever couple other breeding program reverend mothers
Everyone hates Harkonnens. Especially Harkonnens.
Rabban doing his best Kylo Ren impression
Nah imagine working for years as a diligent and active Harkonnen with years of experience under your belt just to get killed by your own lord because they had a temper tantrum
Clever to include Paul and Lady Jessica. I skipped ahead and was like "Huh," then two seconds later, I was like, "Oh yeah."
Killing your gunner/ assistant pilot mid flight is not the brightest idea, but then again on of Harkonnens are bright minded people.
Feyd-Rautha was fed _so_ many lives, just so he would never hesitate to kill.
And it did absolutely _nothing_ against a _psychic._
"What kind of animal are you? Do you like attacking your own kind?"
Diabolical
Definitely wouldn’t want to be on the Harkonen side. It’s also cartoonishly evil when the villains treat their own like shit, realistically everyone who works there would want to quit 😂
The HR is having a hardtime
Realistically people in that situation would NEVER even think to quit because they would be afraid to even do a wrong move let alone plan escape; and because not everyone has means to escape. It's not like this a prosperous democracy, it's a tyranny where only the ruling house has power.
I mean, i assume the vast majority of north korea's population wants to "quit" as well but that country still exists
Good to see that you acknowledged Paul as a Harkonnen.
imagine killing your own pilot
Love how Feyd looks at Paul killing the Baron.
0:01 Listen up Rabban, I'm your anger management coach.....................
Love how rabaan is completely unhinged and predictable unlike fayd who’s cold and psychotic
id honestly laugh if anyone who never saw dune part two yet felt confused as hell why paul and jessica were included
one of the biggest spoilers they would ever see
You would think the servants would learn to stand a little out of arms reach
Baron's passing was probably somewhat peaceful, considering what he wanted was a Harkonnen on the throne lol
Geez, hostile work environment! Someone better call HR (Harkonnen Resources)!😄😄
Wait why are you including Paul the title says Harkonnes killing Hark- ooooooooohhhhhhhh I get it.
Fun fact: harkonnen women are entirely clean-shaven.
they don't have any hair at all
The guys too right? I don't see any Harkonnen with hair
@@juannaym8488 nah, feyd-rautha behaves like a guy who definitely has a few ingrown ass-hairs.
E-e-entirely...you say?
@@juannaym8488other than Paul and Jessica
Paul finally restored order and dignity to house Harkonnen. AS IT WAS WRITTEN !
Those Wacky Harkonnens
“I just killed a building full of virgin girls” “Oh YOU!” (Laugh track)
Gurney Halleck: you’ve never fought harkonnen’s before, I have their not Human, their “BRUTAL”
Man, Gurney wasn’t kidding.
Wasn't the girls Feyd killed are Enslaved Atriedes POWs? Or I am just assuming things
Mao Zedong on killing your own people - "Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket"
I love it when media shows what realistic families are like! ❤
"Hey why is Paul here- oh that's right,"
Rabban has as much emotional intelligence as a block of wood. Also, Paul's identity issues are crazy. An Atredies who hates Harkonens, wants to be Fremen, and eventually finds out he is Harkonen as well... But in the end, Feyd in his last breath recognizes him as an Atredies. Crazy story.
Now I gotta go purposely try to piss off a block of wood
The only way villenueve can convey how evil an antagonist is in his movies is to have them randomly kill women for no reason. He’s a hack.
So he conveys how evil characters are by...making them do evil shit? Isn't that kinda the point?
@@stanpines9011 no. It’s completely unnecessary.
Oh yeah thinking back to the Jared Letto purposely killing one or two replicant girls yezzir. I mean can we say somethin like "cheap but effective" but the director might not get story writing credit/blame, I don't remember if it's specifically female Harkonnen slave girl victims in the book and have never read the short story that Blade Runner was based on but they can always even it out for both sexes
Was not expecting to see Paul and Jessica lol
1:26 I love how the co-pilot looke over to the dude lmao. "Welp there'syour life right there."
1:27 When you saw your co-worker about to make terrible mistake at conference.
I wish the Baron seen it was Paul’s face before he died
Edit: I didn’t realise Feyd has tattoos
0:03 When my friend continues annoys me while I keep dying during playing games.
When you have friends like this...
And I thought imperial officers had low survival rates
Telling your grandfather he dies like an animal 🤣
2:03 Dude was so tweaked by what he was seeing 😂
harkonnens killing harkonnens is pretty much the whole movie :p
I guess we’ll survive as Harkonnens
- Paul
Actually nice since paul is part harkonnen